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06 Mar 2005 06:22:37 PM |
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List of Cranks here |
Can we have a complete list of cranks here.
1. Fusioneer
2. Greysky
3. newedena
4. Y.Porat
5. Thomson
6. Ken Seto
7. TomGee
8. Smart Model
9. Retic
10. John Sefton
11. Freddifix (?)
12. (who else)
Ok. Cranks. How many of you have read this book
"Feynman Lectures on Physics 3 Vol set"??
You guys keep committing very basic mistakes that
Heymann kept on correcting. It's very frustrating.
How can you take apart the Standard Model if you
are not veteran in it?? We know the Standard Model
is not complete and something can turn it into a subset.
But to enhance it, we must be adept in the in and
out of Standard Model so as to be able to change
it successfully.
So, I recommened cranks to read up some basic textbooks
such as Feynman's and be familiar with all the concepts
before spewing horse manure as Heymann love to call it.
It's getting frustrating to waste time reading rubbish
every morning.
Phoenix
(Anti-Crank
Pro Enhanced Physics)
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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| Title: Re: List of Cranks here |
14 Mar 2005 06:40:42 AM |
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one thing is for sure
anyone who takes part in this long gibberish thread
is a bump
except me (:-) becuse i am just wathching to fools parade.
anyone who will anser this post is of course a bump....
Y.Porat
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| User: "Sea Squid" |
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07 Mar 2005 11:46:25 PM |
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Uncle Al..
"phoenix" <photonixx@go.com> wrote in message
news:1110154957.425057.212520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Can we have a complete list of cranks here.
1. Fusioneer
2. Greysky
3. newedena
4. Y.Porat
5. Thomson
6. Ken Seto
7. TomGee
8. Smart Model
9. Retic
10. John Sefton
11. Freddifix (?)
12. (who else)
Ok. Cranks. How many of you have read this book
"Feynman Lectures on Physics 3 Vol set"??
You guys keep committing very basic mistakes that
Heymann kept on correcting. It's very frustrating.
How can you take apart the Standard Model if you
are not veteran in it?? We know the Standard Model
is not complete and something can turn it into a subset.
But to enhance it, we must be adept in the in and
out of Standard Model so as to be able to change
it successfully.
So, I recommened cranks to read up some basic textbooks
such as Feynman's and be familiar with all the concepts
before spewing horse manure as Heymann love to call it.
It's getting frustrating to waste time reading rubbish
every morning.
Phoenix
(Anti-Crank
Pro Enhanced Physics)
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| User: "Franz Heymann" |
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| Title: Re: List of Cranks here |
08 Mar 2005 10:15:44 AM |
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"Sea Squid" <Sea.Squid@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:422d3abb$1@news.starhub.net.sg...
Uncle Al..
No. Uncle Al is certainly not a crank. He knows more physica than
you ever will.
Having said that, as a person he has quite a reprehensible character,
--
Franz
"A first-rate laboratory is one in which mediocre scientists can
produce outstanding work"
P.M.S. Blackett>
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| User: "edddy" |
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06 Mar 2005 08:30:05 PM |
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Who are you for real. I would like your home address so you could find
out what reality is.
Speaking the vernacual like in physics means, you should never feel
threatened by my words.
I threaten only with real home vists and stuff,btw
So read on and learn whan communication I.
I will just "talk" to y
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| User: "phoenix" |
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| Title: Re: List of Cranks here |
06 Mar 2005 10:01:34 PM |
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The Standard Model is by no means complete.. of course all know it.
Cranks are by nature creative but mostly are ignorant. They haven't
read enough textbooks, etc. Maybe don't have money.
Attack pack such Uncle Al and company are less creative and less
imaginative. They love to follow rules and can't see outside the box.
What is needed is balance.
I'm thinking whether to trust and support M-Theory for the TOE or
whether the foundations of physics themselves are flawed and
need to to reworked from the bottom. Most cranks support the
latter, that many concepts are flawed. But because they are not
as good as Uncle Al. They can't see where to really plug the new
principles. Uncle Al and company on the other hand trust Standard
Model so much that they may not see things from other point of view
and may not recognize it if there is something in nature that their
Standard Model can't explain.
This is my observation in this NG sci.physics.
Anyway. I really recommend all labeled cranks to read up
"Feynman Lectures of Physics" 3 Vols. It's being sold for
only $70 at amazon marketplace shipped new from NJ. That
way. You won't goof up on many simple things that would make
you really look bad.
Phoenix
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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13 Mar 2005 02:15:39 AM |
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Hi Phoenix
again what is your real name
waht gave you the chaek to make such a list
and not include youself in it
what is your authority to do that ??
now about your hymann
who told you we have no idea about femamns lectures?
finmman was a mathemathician he was not goos enough physdicist
his solution is an accidental sucess and on the long run
a damage to the advance of scince
(becauase half of the truth in the hand of parrots - is worse than a
lie!!
so
you rmind me again the story about the man who got a hammer in his hand
so while he went out to the street *anything there looked to him like
nailes*
your hammer is Fenmann and the nailes are all the physics world
do a stuipd like you beleive that Fenmans theory and technick are
*goo enoughj to solve all the posible physics problems ??
if not than you would never write your stupid irresponsible thread
just food for parasites bumps and waveand waisters
so bottom line Mr stupid:
before teaching others what to do - jusy teach youself better
2 there was life before Feynmann *and there will be life after him as
well****!!
keep well stuipid walking damage.
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Y.Porat
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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06 Mar 2005 10:06:25 PM |
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phoenix wrote:
I'm thinking whether to trust and support M-Theory for the TOE or
whether the foundations of physics themselves are flawed and
need to to reworked from the bottom.
M-Theory has never made a testable preciction and therefore, is
no better than philosophy.
There has NEVER been a prediction of QM, SR or GTR that was
contradicted by an observation. NEVER!
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| User: "FrediFizzx" |
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06 Mar 2005 11:14:45 PM |
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:5rQWd.41504$r55.7056@attbi_s52...
| phoenix wrote:
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| > I'm thinking whether to trust and support M-Theory for the TOE or
| > whether the foundations of physics themselves are flawed and
| > need to to reworked from the bottom.
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| M-Theory has never made a testable preciction and therefore, is
| no better than philosophy.
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| There has NEVER been a prediction of QM, SR or GTR that was
| contradicted by an observation. NEVER!
Sam, read Volovik's "The Universe in a Helium Droplet". Cure your
ignorance. Please.
And I thought we were done with this "list" crap. Read the Google
Groups guidelines on netiquette. Please.
FrediFizzx
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf
or postscript
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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| Title: Re: List of Cranks here |
07 Mar 2005 01:02:19 AM |
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"FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:392612F5q3h23U1@individual.net...
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:5rQWd.41504$r55.7056@attbi_s52...
| phoenix wrote:
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| > I'm thinking whether to trust and support M-Theory for the TOE or
| > whether the foundations of physics themselves are flawed and
| > need to to reworked from the bottom.
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| M-Theory has never made a testable preciction and therefore, is
| no better than philosophy.
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| There has NEVER been a prediction of QM, SR or GTR that was
| contradicted by an observation. NEVER!
Sam, read Volovik's "The Universe in a Helium Droplet". Cure your
ignorance. Please.
And I thought we were done with this "list" crap. Read the Google
Groups guidelines on netiquette. Please.
FrediFizzx
Hello crackpot.
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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07 Mar 2005 05:01:35 AM |
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Hi Sam
dont you dare talking against Phoenix!! (&co.)
he is the new President of the international physics society!!
(founded by him)
he learned the Fymann lessons therefore no one shold sparak aganst him
or else ..... he should be chaised out ot the international society of
physics
and will not get free lesons about the 'Theory of everything'
in that case you will not be entitled to get lessons from
Fertz Hymann about his Fertz (Feurbacher as assistnent
he will not get lessons from Feuerbacher about HUP in the bepmetric
structure of the
Nuc.
you will not get lessons from Al about the W bosons found in experiment
nor about the 32 electrons in a shell from Varney- Pisse.
so beware!!
al lthe best
Y.Porat
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BYE
Y.Porat
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| User: "Paul Stowe" |
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06 Mar 2005 10:41:44 PM |
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 04:06:25 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote:
phoenix wrote:
I'm thinking whether to trust and support M-Theory for the TOE or
whether the foundations of physics themselves are flawed and
need to to reworked from the bottom.
M-Theory has never made a testable preciction and therefore, is
no better than philosophy.
There has NEVER been a prediction of QM, SR or GTR that was
contradicted by an observation. NEVER!
What about the spiral galactic rotation profiles...??
Paul Stowe
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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06 Mar 2005 11:11:14 PM |
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Paul Stowe wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 04:06:25 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote:
M-Theory has never made a testable preciction and therefore, is
no better than philosophy.
There has NEVER been a prediction of QM, SR or GTR that was
contradicted by an observation. NEVER!
What about the spiral galactic rotation profiles...??
Paul Stowe
Scientists Map Dark Matter, Prove Einstein Right
http://www.space.com/news/cosmic_shear_000512.html
Particle Dark Matter: Evidence, Candidates and Constraints
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0404175
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| User: "Creighton Hogg" |
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06 Mar 2005 10:26:41 PM |
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On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Sam Wormley wrote:
phoenix wrote:
I'm thinking whether to trust and support M-Theory for the TOE or
whether the foundations of physics themselves are flawed and
need to to reworked from the bottom.
M-Theory has never made a testable preciction and therefore, is
no better than philosophy.
There has NEVER been a prediction of QM, SR or GTR that was
contradicted by an observation. NEVER!
Yeah, but it would be nice if there was.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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06 Mar 2005 11:11:57 PM |
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Creighton Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Sam Wormley wrote:
phoenix wrote:
I'm thinking whether to trust and support M-Theory for the TOE or
whether the foundations of physics themselves are flawed and
need to to reworked from the bottom.
M-Theory has never made a testable preciction and therefore, is
no better than philosophy.
There has NEVER been a prediction of QM, SR or GTR that was
contradicted by an observation. NEVER!
Yeah, but it would be nice if there was.
One of these days...
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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07 Mar 2005 01:42:43 AM |
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ok croock gangsters
it whant help you
everybody knows already who is in that gang
now people are not fools
you canc heat one person forever
you can cheat everybody justonce
but you cant cheat everybody forever
bye Gangeters
ps just have a look of the list of thoe supporters
of this list
no one with his real name !!
Y.Porat
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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| Title: Re: List of Cranks here |
07 Mar 2005 02:13:55 AM |
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"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1110181363.358279.111910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
ok croock gangsters
it whant help you
everybody knows already who is in that gang
now people are not fools
you canc heat one person forever
you can cheat everybody justonce
but you cant cheat everybody forever
bye Gangeters
ps just have a look of the list of thoe supporters
of this list
no one with his real name !!
Learn to spell, twit.
(Ahhh..... brings back some memories)
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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06 Mar 2005 07:49:45 PM |
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phoenix wrote:
Can we have a complete list of cranks here.
1. Fusioneer
2. Greysky
3. newedena
4. Y.Porat
5. Thomson
6. Ken Seto
7. TomGee
8. Smart Model
9. Retic
10. John Sefton
11. Freddifix (?)
12. (who else)
Ok. Cranks. How many of you have read this book
"Feynman Lectures on Physics 3 Vol set"??
You guys keep committing very basic mistakes that
Heymann kept on correcting. It's very frustrating.
How can you take apart the Standard Model if you
are not veteran in it?? We know the Standard Model
is not complete and something can turn it into a subset.
But to enhance it, we must be adept in the in and
out of Standard Model so as to be able to change
it successfully.
So, I recommened cranks to read up some basic textbooks
such as Feynman's and be familiar with all the concepts
before spewing horse manure as Heymann love to call it.
It's getting frustrating to waste time reading rubbish
every morning.
Uncle Al admires the optimism of youth. Let's crush it up front and
spare the courier a quarter-lifetime of creeping incremental disgust.
http://www.edu-observatory.org/cranks.html
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Greysky" |
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07 Mar 2005 12:31:02 AM |
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:422BB339.3F5480F9@hate.spam.net...
Uncle Al admires the optimism of youth. Let's crush it up front and
spare the courier a quarter-lifetime of creeping incremental disgust.
http://www.edu-observatory.org/cranks.html
Hey Al- make any diamonds yet? My kid told me he was going to prospect for
gold. At least he brought back some pyrite... pretty good for a 5 year old.
So when are you going to mail everyone on this group a 1ct. sparkler?
Greysky
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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06 Mar 2005 09:44:51 PM |
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:422BB339.3F5480F9@hate.spam.net...
http://www.edu-observatory.org/cranks.html
It is interesting to observe that
the God and founder of the "attack pack" is John Baez,
and its' most impassioned missionaries are:
Uncle Al
Sam Wormley
and
Dirk Moortel.
Note that the URL listed above
(With the phony,impressive, official-sounding name.)
is the personal web site of Sam Wormley,
the number three man in the "attack pack".
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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06 Mar 2005 08:12:15 PM |
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Wow. Very impressive!
Uncle Al has complete listings of cranks indeed :)
from http://www.edu-observatory.org/cranks.html
"Some Registered Cranks from sci.physics
Tom Bearden
Jos Boersema (josX)
Charles Cagle
Dr Conrad
Kent Deatherage (kdthrge)
James M. Driscoll, jr.
Ralph E. Frost
E.D.G.
JL Gaasenbeek
Greysky
Brad Guth
Donald L. Hamilton
James Harris
James Harris
Mike Helland
Dewey B. Larson
Laurent
Dr. Jai Maharaj aka Jay Stevens
Jack Martinelli
Robert E. McElwaine
Paul Marmet
Randell Mills
Louis Nielsen
Jeff O'Callaghan
Archimedes Plutonium
Tom Potter
David Rutherford
Jack Sarfatti
G S Sandhu
Ralph Sansbury
Louis Savain
John Sefton
Ken H. Seto
Smart1234 (S. Enterprize Company) (Jim Smith)
Spaceshit
Stomar "Physics"
Paul Stowe
Thinh Tran
Tom Van Flandern
E R Vega
unifytruth
Some Cranks or Trolls known by their postings to sci.physics
2N3819
Abhi
Aladar Stolmar
Androcles
Anna&Will
Hamid V. Ansari
Archimedes Plutonium
Ballisticus
Tom Bearden
CC (Charles Cagle)
Charles Cagle
Douglas Eagleson
eleaticus (Oren Webster)
Harold Ensle
Don Findlay
tj Frazir
FrediFizzx
Ralph E. Frost
GRAVITYMECHANIC
GRAVITYMECHANIC2
V.Gopal
Greenfield
Greysky
Greywolf42 (Barry Mingst)
HERetic3 - Ernest Wittke
Habshi
James Harris
Hayek
Mike Helland
Eugene Shubert (Perfectly Innocent)
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Don Jensen
John P David
johnn
josX
Kent Deatherage
IGNACIO LAMOTHE
Laurent
Dr. Jai Maharaj
Maleki
Robert E. McElwaine
Mitchell Raemsch
Louis Nielsen
Oriel36
Mathew Orman
Richard Perry (RP)
John C. Polasek
Y.Porat
Tom Potter
Hal Puthoff
Ralph Rabbidge
Jeff Relf
retic - Ernest Wittke
retiche - Ernest Wittke
reticher - Ernest Wittke
reticher1 - Ernest Wittke
David Rutherford
G S Sandhu
Ralph Sansbury
Jack Sarfatti
Louis Savain
John Schoenfeld
John Sefton
Ken H. Seto
Shrikantha S. Shastry
Donald G. Shead
Slavek
Smart1234 (S. Enterprize Company) (Jim Smith)
Rick Sobie
spaceshit
Keith Stein
Paul Stelzner
Kurt Stocklmeir
Paul Stowe
Brian Stuckless
ThomasL283
David Thomson
Traveler (Louis Savain)
Dave Ulmer
unifytruth
Bill Vajk
eleaticus (Oren Webster)
Henry (Henri) Wilson
Ernest Wittke
Lester Zick
Now I wonder who among them have the most potentials. We can pick
up 5 of the most brilliant among them and hire them and make them
work together to produce the TOE. How about that. :)
Now I have to review each of their work to choose the top 5.
Thanks for the list. Pls add more if you guys know more.
Phoenix
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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06 Mar 2005 09:28:00 PM |
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"phoenix" <photonixx@go.com> wrote in message
news:1110161535.199668.49470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Wow. Very impressive!
Uncle Al has complete listings of cranks indeed :)
from http://www.edu-observatory.org/cranks.html
"Some Registered Cranks from sci.physics
Tom Bearden
Jos Boersema (josX)
Charles Cagle
Dr Conrad
Kent Deatherage (kdthrge)
James M. Driscoll, jr.
Ralph E. Frost
E.D.G.
JL Gaasenbeek
Greysky
Brad Guth
Donald L. Hamilton
James Harris
James Harris
Mike Helland
Dewey B. Larson
Laurent
Dr. Jai Maharaj aka Jay Stevens
Jack Martinelli
Robert E. McElwaine
Paul Marmet
Randell Mills
Louis Nielsen
Jeff O'Callaghan
Archimedes Plutonium
Tom Potter
David Rutherford
Jack Sarfatti
G S Sandhu
Ralph Sansbury
Louis Savain
John Sefton
Ken H. Seto
Smart1234 (S. Enterprize Company) (Jim Smith)
Spaceshit
Stomar "Physics"
Paul Stowe
Thinh Tran
Tom Van Flandern
E R Vega
unifytruth
Some Cranks or Trolls known by their postings to sci.physics
2N3819
Abhi
Aladar Stolmar
Androcles
Anna&Will
Hamid V. Ansari
Archimedes Plutonium
Ballisticus
Tom Bearden
CC (Charles Cagle)
Charles Cagle
Douglas Eagleson
eleaticus (Oren Webster)
Harold Ensle
Don Findlay
tj Frazir
FrediFizzx
Ralph E. Frost
GRAVITYMECHANIC
GRAVITYMECHANIC2
V.Gopal
Greenfield
Greysky
Greywolf42 (Barry Mingst)
HERetic3 - Ernest Wittke
Habshi
James Harris
Hayek
Mike Helland
Eugene Shubert (Perfectly Innocent)
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Don Jensen
John P David
johnn
josX
Kent Deatherage
IGNACIO LAMOTHE
Laurent
Dr. Jai Maharaj
Maleki
Robert E. McElwaine
Mitchell Raemsch
Louis Nielsen
Oriel36
Mathew Orman
Richard Perry (RP)
John C. Polasek
Y.Porat
Tom Potter
Hal Puthoff
Ralph Rabbidge
Jeff Relf
retic - Ernest Wittke
retiche - Ernest Wittke
reticher - Ernest Wittke
reticher1 - Ernest Wittke
David Rutherford
G S Sandhu
Ralph Sansbury
Jack Sarfatti
Louis Savain
John Schoenfeld
John Sefton
Ken H. Seto
Shrikantha S. Shastry
Donald G. Shead
Slavek
Smart1234 (S. Enterprize Company) (Jim Smith)
Rick Sobie
spaceshit
Keith Stein
Paul Stelzner
Kurt Stocklmeir
Paul Stowe
Brian Stuckless
ThomasL283
David Thomson
Traveler (Louis Savain)
Dave Ulmer
unifytruth
Bill Vajk
eleaticus (Oren Webster)
Henry (Henri) Wilson
Ernest Wittke
Lester Zick
Now I wonder who among them have the most potentials. We can pick
up 5 of the most brilliant among them and hire them and make them
work together to produce the TOE. How about that. :)
Now I have to review each of their work to choose the top 5.
Thanks for the list. Pls add more if you guys know more.
Phoenix
As can be seen from the definition given at the URL:
"A crank (at least on the web and on USENET) is an individual
that makes claims, or holds views, that are contradicted by
the empirical data of observation and experiment."
As a long time reader of the newsgroups,
it seems to me that folks are listed on "crank lists" and such,
because they have bested someone in a dichotomy,
or because someone doesn't like their style, politics, religion,
or their attitude toward their favorite physicist or theory.
I suggest that it is incumbent upon the "attack pack" to
justify their assertion that these folks
"make claims, or hold views, that are contradicted by
the empirical data of observation and experiment.",
In other words,
I assert that the "attack pack" are immature
and driven by emotions and prejudices, rather than logic, and
"make claims, or hold views, that are contradicted by
the empirical data of observation."
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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07 Mar 2005 12:57:18 AM |
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"Tom Potter" <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:39202eF5t8gbsU1@individual.net...
"phoenix" <photonixx@go.com> wrote in message
news:1110161535.199668.49470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Wow. Very impressive!
Uncle Al has complete listings of cranks indeed :)
from http://www.edu-observatory.org/cranks.html
"Some Registered Cranks from sci.physics
Tom Bearden
Jos Boersema (josX)
Charles Cagle
Dr Conrad
Kent Deatherage (kdthrge)
James M. Driscoll, jr.
Ralph E. Frost
E.D.G.
JL Gaasenbeek
Greysky
Brad Guth
Donald L. Hamilton
James Harris
James Harris
Mike Helland
Dewey B. Larson
Laurent
Dr. Jai Maharaj aka Jay Stevens
Jack Martinelli
Robert E. McElwaine
Paul Marmet
Randell Mills
Louis Nielsen
Jeff O'Callaghan
Archimedes Plutonium
Tom Potter
David Rutherford
Jack Sarfatti
G S Sandhu
Ralph Sansbury
Louis Savain
John Sefton
Ken H. Seto
Smart1234 (S. Enterprize Company) (Jim Smith)
Spaceshit
Stomar "Physics"
Paul Stowe
Thinh Tran
Tom Van Flandern
E R Vega
unifytruth
Some Cranks or Trolls known by their postings to sci.physics
2N3819
Abhi
Aladar Stolmar
Androcles
Anna&Will
Hamid V. Ansari
Archimedes Plutonium
Ballisticus
Tom Bearden
CC (Charles Cagle)
Charles Cagle
Douglas Eagleson
eleaticus (Oren Webster)
Harold Ensle
Don Findlay
tj Frazir
FrediFizzx
Ralph E. Frost
GRAVITYMECHANIC
GRAVITYMECHANIC2
V.Gopal
Greenfield
Greysky
Greywolf42 (Barry Mingst)
HERetic3 - Ernest Wittke
Habshi
James Harris
Hayek
Mike Helland
Eugene Shubert (Perfectly Innocent)
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Don Jensen
John P David
johnn
josX
Kent Deatherage
IGNACIO LAMOTHE
Laurent
Dr. Jai Maharaj
Maleki
Robert E. McElwaine
Mitchell Raemsch
Louis Nielsen
Oriel36
Mathew Orman
Richard Perry (RP)
John C. Polasek
Y.Porat
Tom Potter
Hal Puthoff
Ralph Rabbidge
Jeff Relf
retic - Ernest Wittke
retiche - Ernest Wittke
reticher - Ernest Wittke
reticher1 - Ernest Wittke
David Rutherford
G S Sandhu
Ralph Sansbury
Jack Sarfatti
Louis Savain
John Schoenfeld
John Sefton
Ken H. Seto
Shrikantha S. Shastry
Donald G. Shead
Slavek
Smart1234 (S. Enterprize Company) (Jim Smith)
Rick Sobie
spaceshit
Keith Stein
Paul Stelzner
Kurt Stocklmeir
Paul Stowe
Brian Stuckless
ThomasL283
David Thomson
Traveler (Louis Savain)
Dave Ulmer
unifytruth
Bill Vajk
eleaticus (Oren Webster)
Henry (Henri) Wilson
Ernest Wittke
Lester Zick
Now I wonder who among them have the most potentials. We can pick
up 5 of the most brilliant among them and hire them and make them
work together to produce the TOE. How about that. :)
Now I have to review each of their work to choose the top 5.
Thanks for the list. Pls add more if you guys know more.
Phoenix
As can be seen from the definition given at the URL:
"A crank (at least on the web and on USENET) is an individual
that makes claims, or holds views, that are contradicted by
the empirical data of observation and experiment."
As a long time reader of the newsgroups,
it seems to me that folks are listed on "crank lists" and such,
because they have bested someone in a dichotomy,
or because someone doesn't like their style, politics, religion,
or their attitude toward their favorite physicist or theory.
I suggest that it is incumbent upon the "attack pack" to
justify their assertion that these folks
"make claims, or hold views, that are contradicted by
the empirical data of observation and experiment.",
In other words,
I assert that the "attack pack" are immature
and driven by emotions and prejudices, rather than logic, and
"make claims, or hold views, that are contradicted by
the empirical data of observation."
Note that Tom CrackPotter is on the list.
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07 Mar 2005 08:43:42 AM |
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"Michael Varney" <varney@collorado.edu> wrote in message
news:d0gu0f$h3q$1@peabody.colorado.edu...
"Tom Potter" <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:39202eF5t8gbsU1@individual.net...
As can be seen from the definition given at the URL:
"A crank (at least on the web and on USENET) is an individual
that makes claims, or holds views, that are contradicted by
the empirical data of observation and experiment."
As a long time reader of the newsgroups,
it seems to me that folks are listed on "crank lists" and such,
because they have bested someone in a dichotomy,
or because someone doesn't like their style, politics, religion,
or their attitude toward their favorite physicist or theory.
I suggest that it is incumbent upon the "attack pack" to
justify their assertion that these folks
"make claims, or hold views, that are contradicted by
the empirical data of observation and experiment.",
In other words,
I assert that the "attack pack" are immature
and driven by emotions and prejudices, rather than logic, and
"make claims, or hold views, that are contradicted by
the empirical data of observation."
Note that Tom CrackPotter is on the list.
When I made that post,
I was almost certain that Mike Varney would read it,
and be compeled to respond to it.
I knew that he so closely identifies with the "attack pack",
that he couldn't resist the urge to join in the howling.
It has been my experience that the social misfits
that join together and attack folks
have a common problem.
They can't get good looking gals.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "Gregory L. Hansen" |
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07 Mar 2005 09:00:43 AM |
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In article <3937kuF5nne8hU1@individual.net>,
Tom Potter <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Michael Varney" <varney@collorado.edu> wrote in message
news:d0gu0f$h3q$1@peabody.colorado.edu...
Note that Tom CrackPotter is on the list.
When I made that post,
I was almost certain that Mike Varney would read it,
and be compeled to respond to it.
That's no big trick. I predict that Tom Potter will respond to this post
even though he knows now that he'll be playing straight into my
expectations, because some people feel compelled to respond to every
single useless post with their name in it.
--
"In any case, don't stress too much--cortisol inhibits muscular
hypertrophy. " -- Eric Dodd
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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| Title: Re: List of Cranks here |
07 Mar 2005 11:47:28 AM |
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"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:d0hqar$1un$2@rainier.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <3937kuF5nne8hU1@individual.net>,
Tom Potter <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Michael Varney" <varney@collorado.edu> wrote in message
news:d0gu0f$h3q$1@peabody.colorado.edu...
Note that Tom CrackPotter is on the list.
When I made that post,
I was almost certain that Mike Varney would read it,
and be compeled to respond to it.
That's no big trick. I predict that Tom Potter will respond to this post
even though he knows now that he'll be playing straight into my
expectations, because some people feel compelled to respond to every
single useless post with their name in it.
It was rather interesting that Potter seems to unerringly jump into any post
that includes his name.
I wonder if would jump through the hoops with an anagram of his name.... or
his name backwards?
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| User: "Gregory L. Hansen" |
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07 Mar 2005 12:18:50 PM |
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In article <d0i43h$84s$1@peabody.colorado.edu>,
Michael Varney <varney@collorado.edu> wrote:
"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:d0hqar$1un$2@rainier.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <3937kuF5nne8hU1@individual.net>,
Tom Potter <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Michael Varney" <varney@collorado.edu> wrote in message
news:d0gu0f$h3q$1@peabody.colorado.edu...
Note that Tom CrackPotter is on the list.
When I made that post,
I was almost certain that Mike Varney would read it,
and be compeled to respond to it.
That's no big trick. I predict that Tom Potter will respond to this post
even though he knows now that he'll be playing straight into my
expectations, because some people feel compelled to respond to every
single useless post with their name in it.
It was rather interesting that Potter seems to unerringly jump into any post
that includes his name.
I wonder if would jump through the hoops with an anagram of his name.... or
his name backwards?
He just can't pass an opportunity to instigate. You'll see.
--
"The preferred method of entering a building is to use a tank main gun
round, direct fire artillery round, or TOW, Dragon, or Hellfire missile to
clear the first room." -- THE RANGER HANDBOOK U.S. Army, 1992
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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| Title: Re: List of Cranks here |
08 Mar 2005 05:55:23 AM |
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"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:d0i5ua$6av$1@rainier.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <d0i43h$84s$1@peabody.colorado.edu>,
Michael Varney <varney@collorado.edu> wrote:
"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:d0hqar$1un$2@rainier.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <3937kuF5nne8hU1@individual.net>,
Tom Potter <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Michael Varney" <varney@collorado.edu> wrote in message
news:d0gu0f$h3q$1@peabody.colorado.edu...
Note that Tom CrackPotter is on the list.
When I made that post,
I was almost certain that Mike Varney would read it,
and be compeled to respond to it.
That's no big trick. I predict that Tom Potter will respond to this
post
even though he knows now that he'll be playing straight into my
expectations, because some people feel compelled to respond to every
single useless post with their name in it.
It was rather interesting that Potter seems to unerringly jump into any
post
that includes his name.
I wonder if would jump through the hoops with an anagram of his name....
or
his name backwards?
He just can't pass an opportunity to instigate. You'll see.
"Gregory L. Hansen" and Michael Varney make a good point!
Although I don't bushwhack folks
and try to boost my ego at the expense of other folks,
like hansen, and the members of the "attack pack" do,
I do respond to posts addressed to me,
as my pappy always said:
"Speak when spoken to,
even by idiots and fools."
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "Gregory L. Hansen" |
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08 Mar 2005 08:38:16 AM |
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In article <395i5eF5ugi45U1@individual.net>,
Tom Potter <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote:
There he is.
"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:d0i5ua$6av$1@rainier.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <d0i43h$84s$1@peabody.colorado.edu>,
Michael Varney <varney@collorado.edu> wrote:
"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:d0hqar$1un$2@rainier.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <3937kuF5nne8hU1@individual.net>,
Tom Potter <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Michael Varney" <varney@collorado.edu> wrote in message
news:d0gu0f$h3q$1@peabody.colorado.edu...
Note that Tom CrackPotter is on the list.
When I made that post,
I was almost certain that Mike Varney would read it,
and be compeled to respond to it.
That's no big trick. I predict that Tom Potter will respond to this
post
even though he knows now that he'll be playing straight into my
expectations, because some people feel compelled to respond to every
single useless post with their name in it.
It was rather interesting that Potter seems to unerringly jump into any
post
that includes his name.
I wonder if would jump through the hoops with an anagram of his name....
or
his name backwards?
He just can't pass an opportunity to instigate. You'll see.
"Gregory L. Hansen" and Michael Varney make a good point!
Although I don't bushwhack folks
and try to boost my ego at the expense of other folks,
like hansen, and the members of the "attack pack" do,
I do respond to posts addressed to me,
as my pappy always said:
"Speak when spoken to,
even by idiots and fools."
And he's instigating.
--
"Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of
Congress... But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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| Title: Re: List of Cranks here |
08 Mar 2005 07:01:56 PM |
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"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:d0kdco$tjf$2@rainier.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <395i5eF5ugi45U1@individual.net>,
Tom Potter <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote:
There he is.
"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:d0i5ua$6av$1@rainier.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <d0i43h$84s$1@peabody.colorado.edu>,
Michael Varney <varney@collorado.edu> wrote:
"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:d0hqar$1un$2@rainier.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <3937kuF5nne8hU1@individual.net>,
Tom Potter <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Michael Varney" <varney@collorado.edu> wrote in message
news:d0gu0f$h3q$1@peabody.colorado.edu...
Note that Tom CrackPotter is on the list.
When I made that post,
I was almost certain that Mike Varney would read it,
and be compeled to respond to it.
That's no big trick. I predict that Tom Potter will respond to this
post
even though he knows now that he'll be playing straight into my
expectations, because some people feel compelled to respond to every
single useless post with their name in it.
It was rather interesting that Potter seems to unerringly jump into any
post
that includes his name.
I wonder if would jump through the hoops with an anagram of his name....
or
his name backwards?
He just can't pass an opportunity to instigate. You'll see.
"Gregory L. Hansen" and Michael Varney make a good point!
Although I don't bushwhack folks
and try to boost my ego at the expense of other folks,
like hansen, and the members of the "attack pack" do,
I do respond to posts addressed to me,
as my pappy always said:
"Speak when spoken to,
even by idiots and fools."
And he's instigating.
Yup...
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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08 Mar 2005 09:53:11 AM |
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"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message news:d0kdco$tjf$2@rainier.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <395i5eF5ugi45U1@individual.net>,
Tom Potter <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote:
There he is.
You did it. Good job :-)
Dirk Vdm
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