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Science > Physics |
| User: |
"Mr. QG" |
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13 Mar 2006 05:21:51 PM |
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Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
Let's share aid or mental guide to make skeptics comprehend GR
intuitively.
In the thread "Quantum Gravity and God" Traveler wrote:
On 13 Mar 2006 08:27:13 -0800, "uri" <danny99@bezeqint.net> wrote:
It's impossible to confuse sensory things with abstract mathematical
models. Geometry and algebra (which are the basics of mathematics) are
still useful though.
You meant to write "possible". Physicists confuse the abstract with
the physical all the time. That's how relativists have managed to fool
most everybody for a century with their geometrical interpretation of
gravity. It's chicken ***** physics taken to the extreme. In addition,
the physical does not necessarily has to be directly observed in order
to exist. It can be deduced through logic.
Louis Savain
Here's an aid to comprehend General Relativity.
Close your eyes. Think of space and time as mere
information and solid objects are just what your
brain interpretated. Then think of Equivalence Principle.
Think of Background Independence and how it must
describe reality because there is no fixed background
aether. Then because space/time is mere information,
if you combine Equivalence Principle + Background
Independence, Riemann's Geometry can be used to
model it. Why R. Geometry. It's one way to look at it
although there may be other way to model it but so
far Riemann's Geometry is as good as it gets.
Got it yetTraveller? Well. I hope folks adept in
GR can help our fellow Traveller get an intuitive
grasp of GR as well as give your version of how
you comprehend GR. Specifically. Explain why
space and time being separate thing is combined in the
Riemann's geometry and it causes gravity. For me.
space and time is related by information that's why
SR and GR works. It's like whenever there is space,
there is time. They are part of it. And somehow our
universe can be modelled by mathematical abstraction
because space and time is just information and
the universe has peculiar way of relating them.
QG
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
15 Mar 2006 12:59:24 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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"T Wake" <taswakeAt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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So the speed could not be a 1 c passing speed to the observer.
Too bad you can't grasp that.
Yes it should. Too bad you cant grasp this.
No,
If the speed it passed by the observer were still c, the pulse would
still last for 1 second.
No it wouldnt.
Which photons would be travelling >c for this to work?
All of them according to the observer.
No.
If there was one photon the observer would measure it's speed as c.
The fact you have brought thousands more into the equation doesnt change a
thing.
When do the photon's speed up and how long do they remain moving at thier
new speed?
The speed it passed by would actually be 1.5c and that
is what created the shorter pulse time.
No it isnt. You really need to learn more.
Yes it is, you really need to get a clue.
I may need to get a clue. You are still wrong and need to learn more.
Too bad you are too brainwashed to grasp such a simple
fact anymore.
Whatever. Please try to come up with something either funny or original.
At the moment you are becoming boring and repetitive.
You are the boring one that can not even grasp the relative speed
could not be c to the observer if the observer actually measures
a shorter pulse time.
It is funny how stupid a smart person like you could actually be.
Neither funny, nor original.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
15 Mar 2006 01:03:39 PM |
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So the speed could not be a 1 c passing speed to the observer.
Too bad you can't grasp that.
Yes it should. Too bad you cant grasp this.
No,
If the speed it passed by the observer were still c, the pulse would
still last for 1 second.
No it wouldnt.
Which photons would be travelling >c for this to work?
All of them according to the observer.
No.
If there was one photon the observer would measure it's speed as c.
You truly are ignorant to the first degree huh?
The photon travels at c from it's source,
the observer moving towards that source could not also
measure c.
the light pulse would be the same for all observers if such was true.
The fact you have brought thousands more into the equation doesnt change a
thing.
It does.
The time they pass by shows the relative speed is not c.
When do the photon's speed up and how long do they remain moving at thier
new speed?
They don't speed up you freaking brain dense tit.
The relative speed the observer measures them at is what
is different.
Sheesh you are brick wall smart aren't you?
I may need to get a clue. You are still wrong and need to learn more.
Nope.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
15 Mar 2006 01:11:23 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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"T Wake" <taswakeAt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If there was one photon the observer would measure it's speed as c.
You truly are ignorant to the first degree huh?
I was ignorant prior to my first degree if that is what you mean.
The photon travels at c from it's source,
the observer moving towards that source could not also
measure c.
the light pulse would be the same for all observers if such was true.
Wrong.
The fact you have brought thousands more into the equation doesnt change
a thing.
It does.
The time they pass by shows the relative speed is not c.
No it does not.
When do the photon's speed up and how long do they remain moving at thier
new speed?
They don't speed up you freaking brain dense tit.
The relative speed the observer measures them at is what
is different.
Sheesh you are brick wall smart aren't you?
Original at last. Well done that man.
Keep up the good work.
I may need to get a clue. You are still wrong and need to learn more.
Nope.
Actually, I never thought you would bother to learn anything - I was giving
my advice knowing it would fall on deaf ears.
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| User: "QCD Apprentice" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
14 Mar 2006 10:27:59 PM |
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Spaceman wrote:
"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv842f$lgv$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
So you're not claiming brainwashing anymore?
Or do you think we just use equations and don't understand them.
Do you understand what a transform actually does?
Do you understand it is a self limiting mathematical trick?
How do you know this?
How can you be so sure that *you* are right and that
everyone I've ever worked with is wrong?
That's what I'm interested in hearing.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
15 Mar 2006 10:59:54 AM |
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"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Spaceman wrote:
"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv842f$lgv$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
So you're not claiming brainwashing anymore?
Or do you think we just use equations and don't understand them.
Do you understand what a transform actually does?
Do you understand it is a self limiting mathematical trick?
How do you know this?
Because it is what the math does to the numbers.
Check it out. and instead of merely using them,
see "how" they work for once.
How can you be so sure that *you* are right and that everyone I've ever
worked with is wrong?
If you are using such for a energy that is limited to that speed
of course it will work ok for such energies and effects of
such.
If you use it for things such as distance traveled, you are
screwing yourself. (such as velocity addition would do to such)
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
14 Mar 2006 07:53:00 PM |
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QCD Apprentice wrote:
T Wake wrote:
"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7bk5$7oj$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
Well I've been reading usenet off and on for about 5 years now. So I've
seen all the sagas of Spaceman.
I know who can and cannot be educated anymore.
Mostly, I think it's just downright fascinating when you have groups of
people who find it more likely that there is a global conspiracy that has
brainwashed all physicists currently working worldwide than that they
could not understand how the world works via raw intuition alone.
It's amazing!
You have put what I have been thinking into words very well here. It is not
just on this newsgroup as well. There seem to be (even accounting for the
probably mischievous people who pretend to be cranks) hordes of people who
are convinced that the conspiracies are so rife that they are the *one*
person in the history of humanity who have truly seen the real answers.
I think Tom Potter is the most fascinating example of this.
He is completely convinced that the Jews are behind every
bad thing of the past century. It's amazing. For example,
he believes that after the Bolshevik revolution that it was
a *crime* to speak badly of a Jew. This is so contrary to
any and all historic evidence that it essentially has no
connection with reality.
I've wondered if his complete disgust of relativity and
quantum mechanics might be in part due to its connection to
"Jewish Physics", as some people used to call it.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
suggests that only Jews instigate conflict and war
for power and riches.
A can be seen by the examples of Bush, Blair and Cheny,
this is not the case.
And all Jews are not war-for-profit instigators
any more than all Gypsies are fortune tellers.
Although Jews were central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and they are central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
this may only be coincidence,
and the instigation of conflict and war
may not be a genetic or cultural trait of Jews.
Perhaps a study needs to be made of this
to determine the correlations.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
calls quantum mechanics "Jewish Physics",
although Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics, and Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years.
Apparently QCD Apprentice is ignorant
of the fact that Jews formed the "EPR"
opposition to quantum mechanics.
QCD Apprentice does make a good point when he suggests that
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that generates more heat than light,
and wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravitons,
warped spaces, black holes, etc.
No doubt GTR is the model of choice
if one wants to design a worm hole and
zip through space and time,
but the best model for rational folks
is that reality expands from their
frame of reference, and they can affect
their reality by applying Newtonian forces.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
--
Tom Potter
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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| User: "Bill Hobba" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
14 Mar 2006 08:25:19 PM |
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<tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142387580.181338.304760@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
QCD Apprentice wrote:
T Wake wrote:
"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7bk5$7oj$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
Well I've been reading usenet off and on for about 5 years now. So
I've
seen all the sagas of Spaceman.
I know who can and cannot be educated anymore.
Mostly, I think it's just downright fascinating when you have groups of
people who find it more likely that there is a global conspiracy that
has
brainwashed all physicists currently working worldwide than that they
could not understand how the world works via raw intuition alone.
It's amazing!
You have put what I have been thinking into words very well here. It is
not
just on this newsgroup as well. There seem to be (even accounting for
the
probably mischievous people who pretend to be cranks) hordes of people
who
are convinced that the conspiracies are so rife that they are the *one*
person in the history of humanity who have truly seen the real answers.
I think Tom Potter is the most fascinating example of this.
He is completely convinced that the Jews are behind every
bad thing of the past century. It's amazing. For example,
he believes that after the Bolshevik revolution that it was
a *crime* to speak badly of a Jew. This is so contrary to
any and all historic evidence that it essentially has no
connection with reality.
I've wondered if his complete disgust of relativity and
quantum mechanics might be in part due to its connection to
"Jewish Physics", as some people used to call it.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
suggests that only Jews instigate conflict and war
for power and riches.
Since that is not what he did one can only guess at your motives for
suggesting such.
A can be seen by the examples of Bush, Blair and Cheny,
this is not the case.
And all Jews are not war-for-profit instigators
any more than all Gypsies are fortune tellers.
Although Jews were central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and they are central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
this may only be coincidence,
and the instigation of conflict and war
may not be a genetic or cultural trait of Jews.
Perhaps a study needs to be made of this
to determine the correlations.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
calls quantum mechanics "Jewish Physics",
although Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics,
Be careful here - that is not quite the truth of it. Einstein believed it
was incomplete - not wrong. For example Bohms 1951 book on QM was well
received by Eaten who wrote a forward to it where he commended its ideas to
all physicists. That preface should be required reading for all who hold
views like yours.
and Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years.
With some success I might add - their debates are justly famous.
Apparently QCD Apprentice is ignorant
of the fact that Jews formed the "EPR"
opposition to quantum mechanics.
QCD Apprentice does make a good point when he suggests that
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that generates more heat than light,
and wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravitons,
warped spaces, black holes, etc.
No doubt GTR is the model of choice
if one wants to design a worm hole and
zip through space and time,
but the best model for rational folks
is that reality expands from their
frame of reference, and they can affect
their reality by applying Newtonian forces.
The best model for those interested in science is the scientific method -
not philosophical waffle such as the above.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Agreed. Use yours to think a bit more clearly.
Bill
--
Tom Potter
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
15 Mar 2006 07:50:51 AM |
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Bill Hobba wrote:
<tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142387580.181338.304760@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
QCD Apprentice wrote:
T Wake wrote:
"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7bk5$7oj$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
Well I've been reading usenet off and on for about 5 years now. So
I've
seen all the sagas of Spaceman.
I know who can and cannot be educated anymore.
Mostly, I think it's just downright fascinating when you have groups of
people who find it more likely that there is a global conspiracy that
has
brainwashed all physicists currently working worldwide than that they
could not understand how the world works via raw intuition alone.
It's amazing!
You have put what I have been thinking into words very well here. It is
not
just on this newsgroup as well. There seem to be (even accounting for
the
probably mischievous people who pretend to be cranks) hordes of people
who
are convinced that the conspiracies are so rife that they are the *one*
person in the history of humanity who have truly seen the real answers.
I think Tom Potter is the most fascinating example of this.
He is completely convinced that the Jews are behind every
bad thing of the past century. It's amazing. For example,
he believes that after the Bolshevik revolution that it was
a *crime* to speak badly of a Jew. This is so contrary to
any and all historic evidence that it essentially has no
connection with reality.
I've wondered if his complete disgust of relativity and
quantum mechanics might be in part due to its connection to
"Jewish Physics", as some people used to call it.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
suggests that only Jews instigate conflict and war
for power and riches.
Since that is not what he did one can only guess at your motives for
suggesting such.
A can be seen by the examples of Bush, Blair and Cheny,
this is not the case.
And all Jews are not war-for-profit instigators
any more than all Gypsies are fortune tellers.
Although Jews were central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and they are central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
this may only be coincidence,
and the instigation of conflict and war
may not be a genetic or cultural trait of Jews.
Perhaps a study needs to be made of this
to determine the correlations.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
calls quantum mechanics "Jewish Physics",
although Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics,
Be careful here - that is not quite the truth of it. Einstein believed it
was incomplete - not wrong. For example Bohms 1951 book on QM was well
received by Eaten who wrote a forward to it where he commended its ideas to
all physicists. That preface should be required reading for all who hold
views like yours.
and Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years.
With some success I might add - their debates are justly famous.
Apparently QCD Apprentice is ignorant
of the fact that Jews formed the "EPR"
opposition to quantum mechanics.
QCD Apprentice does make a good point when he suggests that
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that generates more heat than light,
and wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravitons,
warped spaces, black holes, etc.
No doubt GTR is the model of choice
if one wants to design a worm hole and
zip through space and time,
but the best model for rational folks
is that reality expands from their
frame of reference, and they can affect
their reality by applying Newtonian forces.
The best model for those interested in science is the scientific method -
not philosophical waffle such as the above.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Agreed. Use yours to think a bit more clearly.
1. It appears that Bill Hobba
has a serious reading comprehension problem,
and he thinks that he can read people's minds.
It is clear from QCD Apprentice post
that he perceives that I dislike Jews,
as he claims that Quantum Mechanics is "Jewish Physics",
and apparently he associates Jews with the instigation
of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and the Religious War of the 2000's,
as he seems to target me for my objections to
the instigation of conflict and war for profit,
and my position that General Relativity is a Tower of Babel.
2. Another indication of Bill Hobba comprehension problem
is that he calls my statement that
"Einstein and many Jews aggressively resisted quantum mechanics.."
a falsehood. No doubt Einstein and almost all others
came over to Quantum Mechanics when it was
obvious that they were on the wrong side of the issue,
and were beginning to look foolish.
3. And regarding my statement
"Bohr tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years."
Bill Hobba stated:
"With some success I might add - their debates are justly famous"
It appears that Bill Hobba did not read all of the debates and
correspondence between Bohr and Einstein, as I have,
or else he would know that Bohr was aggressively trying
to pin Einstein down, and Einstein did everthing he could
to avoid joining the issue with Bohr. When he did communicate,
it was reluctantly.
4. Considering that deBroglie's revolutionary paper
was the seed that resulted in Quantum Mechanics, and
was immediately recognized by Nobel Prize Committee
and all of the Quantum Mechanics founders,
it appears that Einstein did not comprehend the significance of it
as he fought Bohr and the Q.M physicists
tooth and nail for many years,
As can be seen by the posts of the Einstein Zombies, Bill Hobba ,
and QCD Apprentice, Einstein had a great press agent as
most people think that he founded Quantum Mechanics,
when the fact of the matter is,
he finally reluctantly had to accept it.
--
Tom Potter
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
15 Mar 2006 08:46:09 AM |
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Bill Hobba wrote:
<tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142387580.181338.304760@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
QCD Apprentice wrote:
T Wake wrote:
"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7bk5$7oj$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
Well I've been reading usenet off and on for about 5 years now. So
I've
seen all the sagas of Spaceman.
I know who can and cannot be educated anymore.
Mostly, I think it's just downright fascinating when you have groups of
people who find it more likely that there is a global conspiracy that
has
brainwashed all physicists currently working worldwide than that they
could not understand how the world works via raw intuition alone.
It's amazing!
You have put what I have been thinking into words very well here. It is
not
just on this newsgroup as well. There seem to be (even accounting for
the
probably mischievous people who pretend to be cranks) hordes of people
who
are convinced that the conspiracies are so rife that they are the *one*
person in the history of humanity who have truly seen the real answers.
I think Tom Potter is the most fascinating example of this.
He is completely convinced that the Jews are behind every
bad thing of the past century. It's amazing. For example,
he believes that after the Bolshevik revolution that it was
a *crime* to speak badly of a Jew. This is so contrary to
any and all historic evidence that it essentially has no
connection with reality.
I've wondered if his complete disgust of relativity and
quantum mechanics might be in part due to its connection to
"Jewish Physics", as some people used to call it.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
suggests that only Jews instigate conflict and war
for power and riches.
Since that is not what he did one can only guess at your motives for
suggesting such.
A can be seen by the examples of Bush, Blair and Cheny,
this is not the case.
And all Jews are not war-for-profit instigators
any more than all Gypsies are fortune tellers.
Although Jews were central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and they are central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
this may only be coincidence,
and the instigation of conflict and war
may not be a genetic or cultural trait of Jews.
Perhaps a study needs to be made of this
to determine the correlations.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
calls quantum mechanics "Jewish Physics",
although Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics,
Be careful here - that is not quite the truth of it. Einstein believed it
was incomplete - not wrong. For example Bohms 1951 book on QM was well
received by Eaten who wrote a forward to it where he commended its ideas to
all physicists. That preface should be required reading for all who hold
views like yours.
and Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years.
With some success I might add - their debates are justly famous.
Apparently QCD Apprentice is ignorant
of the fact that Jews formed the "EPR"
opposition to quantum mechanics.
QCD Apprentice does make a good point when he suggests that
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that generates more heat than light,
and wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravitons,
warped spaces, black holes, etc.
No doubt GTR is the model of choice
if one wants to design a worm hole and
zip through space and time,
but the best model for rational folks
is that reality expands from their
frame of reference, and they can affect
their reality by applying Newtonian forces.
The best model for those interested in science is the scientific method -
not philosophical waffle such as the above.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Agreed. Use yours to think a bit more clearly.
1. It appears that Bill Hobba
has a serious reading comprehension problem,
and he thinks that he can read people's minds.
It is clear from QCD Apprentice post
that he perceives that I dislike Jews,
as he claims that Quantum Mechanics is "Jewish Physics",
and apparently he associates Jews with the instigation
of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and the Religious War of the 2000's,
as he seems to target me for my objections to
the instigation of conflict and war for profit,
and my position that General Relativity is a Tower of Babel.
2. Another indication of Bill Hobba comprehension problem
is that he calls my statement that
"Einstein and many Jews aggressively resisted quantum mechanics.."
a falsehood. No doubt Einstein and almost all others
came over to Quantum Mechanics when it was
obvious that they were on the wrong side of the issue,
and were beginning to look foolish.
3. And regarding my statement
"Bohr tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years."
Bill Hobba stated:
"With some success I might add - their debates are justly famous"
It appears that Bill Hobba did not read all of the debates and
correspondence between Bohr and Einstein, as I have,
or else he would know that Bohr was aggressively trying
to pin Einstein down, and Einstein did everthing he could
to avoid joining the issue with Bohr. When he did communicate,
it was reluctantly.
4. Considering that deBroglie's revolutionary paper
was the seed that resulted in Quantum Mechanics, and
was immediately recognized by Nobel Prize Committee
and all of the Quantum Mechanics founders,
it appears that Einstein did not comprehend the significance of it
as he fought Bohr and the Q.M physicists
tooth and nail for many years,
As can be seen by the posts of the Einstein Zombies, Bill Hobba ,
and QCD Apprentice, Einstein had a great press agent as
most people think that he founded Quantum Mechanics,
when the fact of the matter is,
he finally reluctantly had to accept it.
--
Tom Potter
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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14 Mar 2006 08:28:41 PM |
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wrote:
QCD Apprentice wrote:
T Wake wrote:
"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7bk5$7oj$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
Well I've been reading usenet off and on for about 5 years now. So I've
seen all the sagas of Spaceman.
I know who can and cannot be educated anymore.
Mostly, I think it's just downright fascinating when you have groups of
people who find it more likely that there is a global conspiracy that has
brainwashed all physicists currently working worldwide than that they
could not understand how the world works via raw intuition alone.
It's amazing!
You have put what I have been thinking into words very well here. It is not
just on this newsgroup as well. There seem to be (even accounting for the
probably mischievous people who pretend to be cranks) hordes of people who
are convinced that the conspiracies are so rife that they are the *one*
person in the history of humanity who have truly seen the real answers.
I think Tom Potter is the most fascinating example of this.
He is completely convinced that the Jews are behind every
bad thing of the past century. It's amazing. For example,
he believes that after the Bolshevik revolution that it was
a *crime* to speak badly of a Jew. This is so contrary to
any and all historic evidence that it essentially has no
connection with reality.
I've wondered if his complete disgust of relativity and
quantum mechanics might be in part due to its connection to
"Jewish Physics", as some people used to call it.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
suggests that only Jews instigate conflict and war
for power and riches.
A can be seen by the examples of Bush, Blair and Cheny,
this is not the case.
And all Jews are not war-for-profit instigators
any more than all Gypsies are fortune tellers.
Although Jews were central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and they are central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
this may only be coincidence,
and the instigation of conflict and war
may not be a genetic or cultural trait of Jews.
Perhaps a study needs to be made of this
to determine the correlations.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
calls quantum mechanics "Jewish Physics",
although Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics, and Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years.
Apparently QCD Apprentice is ignorant
of the fact that Jews formed the "EPR"
opposition to quantum mechanics.
QCD Apprentice does make a good point when he suggests that
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that generates more heat than light,
and wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravitons,
warped spaces, black holes, etc.
Funny, I don't remember saying any of that.
Funny, that seems to be what you claim everyone else says as
well.
Maybe it really is you.
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15 Mar 2006 06:18:48 AM |
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"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7u4o$i9t$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
calls quantum mechanics "Jewish Physics",
although Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics, and Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years.
Apparently QCD Apprentice is ignorant
of the fact that Jews formed the "EPR"
opposition to quantum mechanics.
QCD Apprentice does make a good point when he suggests that
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that generates more heat than light,
and wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravitons,
warped spaces, black holes, etc.
Funny, I don't remember saying any of that.
Funny, that seems to be what you claim everyone else says as well.
Maybe it really is you.
Tom Potter, like most cranks here, tends to reply to the voices in his head
as opposed to the actual messages posted.
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15 Mar 2006 08:25:13 AM |
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T Wake wrote:
"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7u4o$i9t$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
calls quantum mechanics "Jewish Physics",
although Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics, and Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years.
Apparently QCD Apprentice is ignorant
of the fact that Jews formed the "EPR"
opposition to quantum mechanics.
QCD Apprentice does make a good point when he suggests that
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that generates more heat than light,
and wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravitons,
warped spaces, black holes, etc.
Funny, I don't remember saying any of that.
Funny, that seems to be what you claim everyone else says as well.
Maybe it really is you.
Tom Potter, like most cranks here, tends to reply to the voices in his head
as opposed to the actual messages posted.
As can be seen T Wake supports
QCD Apprentice position that quantum mechanics
is "Jewish Physics", and Wake, like QCD Apprentice,
seems anxious to disassociate Jews from being
central to the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and the Religious Wars of the 2000's.
Apparently T Wake is ignorant of the fact that
Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics, and that Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years, and eventually Einstein reluctantly had
to accept quantum mechanics as he was beginning to look foolish.
And apparently, T Wake is ignorant of the fact that
thousands of Jews in Russia who were central
to the Class War instigations of the 1900's,
migrated to Israel and America
after their Class Wars were discredited,
and the Native Russians regained control of their nation
(An on-going process, as can be seen by activity of the oligarchs.)
and they are actively trying to instigate conflict and hate
between Christians and Muslims,
as can be seen in all of the newsgroups, including sci.physics.
--
Tom Potter
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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15 Mar 2006 08:25:19 AM |
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T Wake wrote:
"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7u4o$i9t$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
calls quantum mechanics "Jewish Physics",
although Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics, and Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years.
Apparently QCD Apprentice is ignorant
of the fact that Jews formed the "EPR"
opposition to quantum mechanics.
QCD Apprentice does make a good point when he suggests that
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that generates more heat than light,
and wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravitons,
warped spaces, black holes, etc.
Funny, I don't remember saying any of that.
Funny, that seems to be what you claim everyone else says as well.
Maybe it really is you.
Tom Potter, like most cranks here, tends to reply to the voices in his head
as opposed to the actual messages posted.
As can be seen T Wake supports
QCD Apprentice position that quantum mechanics
is "Jewish Physics", and Wake, like QCD Apprentice,
seems anxious to disassociate Jews from being
central to the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and the Religious Wars of the 2000's.
Apparently T Wake is ignorant of the fact that
Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics, and that Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years, and eventually Einstein reluctantly had
to accept quantum mechanics as he was beginning to look foolish.
And apparently, T Wake is ignorant of the fact that
thousands of Jews in Russia who were central
to the Class War instigations of the 1900's,
migrated to Israel and America
after their Class Wars were discredited,
and the Native Russians regained control of their nation
(An on-going process, as can be seen by activity of the oligarchs.)
and they are actively trying to instigate conflict and hate
between Christians and Muslims,
as can be seen in all of the newsgroups, including sci.physics.
--
Tom Potter
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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| User: "T Wake" |
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16 Mar 2006 12:42:32 PM |
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On Wednesday 15 March 2006 14:25, ()
procrastinated for a bit then wrote in sci.physics
(<1142432719.598073.228460@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):
T Wake wrote:
Tom Potter, like most cranks here, tends to reply to the voices in his
head as opposed to the actual messages posted.
As can be seen T Wake supports
QCD Apprentice position that quantum mechanics
is "Jewish Physics", and Wake, like QCD Apprentice,
seems anxious to disassociate Jews from being
central to the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and the Religious Wars of the 2000's.
<snip nonsense>
Well, Tom. It seems like the filter I set up for you accidentally timed out
and I got to see one of your pathetic posts. Dont worry I will make sure
the setting is changed to not expire this filter.
You start your post with a basic lie which identifies how little you have
understood, both in this thread and in life itself.
You are, truly, an objectionable, pathetic fool.
Feel free to not reply.
--
T Wake
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| User: "" |
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15 Mar 2006 08:06:08 AM |
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QCD Apprentice wrote:
tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:
QCD Apprentice wrote:
T Wake wrote:
"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7bk5$7oj$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
Well I've been reading usenet off and on for about 5 years now. So I've
seen all the sagas of Spaceman.
I know who can and cannot be educated anymore.
Mostly, I think it's just downright fascinating when you have groups of
people who find it more likely that there is a global conspiracy that has
brainwashed all physicists currently working worldwide than that they
could not understand how the world works via raw intuition alone.
It's amazing!
You have put what I have been thinking into words very well here. It is not
just on this newsgroup as well. There seem to be (even accounting for the
probably mischievous people who pretend to be cranks) hordes of people who
are convinced that the conspiracies are so rife that they are the *one*
person in the history of humanity who have truly seen the real answers.
I think Tom Potter is the most fascinating example of this.
He is completely convinced that the Jews are behind every
bad thing of the past century. It's amazing. For example,
he believes that after the Bolshevik revolution that it was
a *crime* to speak badly of a Jew. This is so contrary to
any and all historic evidence that it essentially has no
connection with reality.
I've wondered if his complete disgust of relativity and
quantum mechanics might be in part due to its connection to
"Jewish Physics", as some people used to call it.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
suggests that only Jews instigate conflict and war
for power and riches.
A can be seen by the examples of Bush, Blair and Cheny,
this is not the case.
And all Jews are not war-for-profit instigators
any more than all Gypsies are fortune tellers.
Although Jews were central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and they are central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
this may only be coincidence,
and the instigation of conflict and war
may not be a genetic or cultural trait of Jews.
Perhaps a study needs to be made of this
to determine the correlations.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
calls quantum mechanics "Jewish Physics",
although Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics, and Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years.
Apparently QCD Apprentice is ignorant
of the fact that Jews formed the "EPR"
opposition to quantum mechanics.
QCD Apprentice does make a good point when he suggests that
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that generates more heat than light,
and wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravitons,
warped spaces, black holes, etc.
Funny, I don't remember saying any of that.
As can be seen QCD Apprentice posted:
"I've wondered if his complete disgust of relativity and
quantum mechanics might be in part due to its connection to
"Jewish Physics", as some people used to call it."
AS can be seen QCD Apprentice
is completely ignorant of my positions,
and of the history of quantum mechanics.
Note that he calls quantum mechanics "Jewish Physics",
although Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics, and Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years, and eventually Einstein reluctantly had
to accept quantum mechanics as he was beginning to look foolish.
Considering that QCD Apprentice fantasizes
that I have a "complete disgust of relativity and quantum mechanics",
when the fact of the matter is that I support quantum mechanics
much more willingly than Einstein did,
and considering that QCD Apprentice fantasizes
that I have an issue with Jews,
when the fact of the matter is,
that I have a issue with ALL people that
instigate conflict and war for power and riches,
even if they are JEWS!
QCD Apprentice is almost right on ONE point.
I don't like GENERAL RELATIVITY,
not because it is Jewish Physics",
but because it is a Tower of Babel
that wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes,
warped spaces, black holes, gravitons, etc.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
As can be seen, QCD Apprentice makes a great effort
to give Jews credit for quantum mechanics and physics in general,
and he tries to disassociate Jew from being
central to the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and the Religious Wars of the 2000's,
by attacking me for simply presenting the FACTS.
--
Tom Potter
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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| User: "" |
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14 Mar 2006 07:53:10 PM |
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QCD Apprentice wrote:
T Wake wrote:
"QCD Apprentice" <qcd.apprentice@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7bk5$7oj$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
Well I've been reading usenet off and on for about 5 years now. So I've
seen all the sagas of Spaceman.
I know who can and cannot be educated anymore.
Mostly, I think it's just downright fascinating when you have groups of
people who find it more likely that there is a global conspiracy that has
brainwashed all physicists currently working worldwide than that they
could not understand how the world works via raw intuition alone.
It's amazing!
You have put what I have been thinking into words very well here. It is not
just on this newsgroup as well. There seem to be (even accounting for the
probably mischievous people who pretend to be cranks) hordes of people who
are convinced that the conspiracies are so rife that they are the *one*
person in the history of humanity who have truly seen the real answers.
I think Tom Potter is the most fascinating example of this.
He is completely convinced that the Jews are behind every
bad thing of the past century. It's amazing. For example,
he believes that after the Bolshevik revolution that it was
a *crime* to speak badly of a Jew. This is so contrary to
any and all historic evidence that it essentially has no
connection with reality.
I've wondered if his complete disgust of relativity and
quantum mechanics might be in part due to its connection to
"Jewish Physics", as some people used to call it.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
suggests that only Jews instigate conflict and war
for power and riches.
A can be seen by the examples of Bush, Blair and Cheny,
this is not the case.
And all Jews are not war-for-profit instigators
any more than all Gypsies are fortune tellers.
Although Jews were central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and they are central
to the instigations of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
this may only be coincidence,
and the instigation of conflict and war
may not be a genetic or cultural trait of Jews.
Perhaps a study needs to be made of this
to determine the correlations.
It is interesting to see that QCD Apprentice
calls quantum mechanics "Jewish Physics",
although Einstein and many Jews aggressively
resisted quantum mechanics, and Bohr
tried to engage Einstein in debates on the subject
for many years.
Apparently QCD Apprentice is ignorant
of the fact that Jews formed the "EPR"
opposition to quantum mechanics.
QCD Apprentice does make a good point when he suggests that
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that generates more heat than light,
and wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravitons,
warped spaces, black holes, etc.
No doubt GTR is the model of choice
if one wants to design a worm hole and
zip through space and time,
but the best model for rational folks
is that reality expands from their
frame of reference, and they can affect
their reality by applying Newtonian forces.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
--
Tom Potter
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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| User: "Cam Jones" |
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18 Mar 2006 10:27:14 AM |
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Mister Driscoll, can you show me the "basic math" you use to prove your
theory?
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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18 Mar 2006 10:38:59 AM |
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"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1142699234.888430.212960@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mister Driscoll, can you show me the "basic math" you use to prove your
theory?
1c + 0.5c = 1.5c
Can you show me where the math is wrong?
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| User: "Cam Jones" |
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18 Mar 2006 10:52:40 AM |
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No, sir, I can not, but please define 'c' specifically.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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18 Mar 2006 11:12:24 AM |
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"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1142700760.555627.70850@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
No, sir, I can not, but please define 'c' specifically.
c = a speed (it happens to be about 186,000 mps)
It does not mean anything more than such.
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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18 Mar 2006 11:14:11 AM |
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"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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| No, sir, I can not, but please define 'c' specifically.
He will if Einstein does.
Androcles.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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18 Mar 2006 12:14:44 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
news:wfWdnYXiy8A-qoHZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1142699234.888430.212960@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mister Driscoll, can you show me the "basic math" you use to prove your
theory?
1c + 0.5c = 1.5c
Can you show me where the math is wrong?
Fantastic. You are getting grumpy with a 12 year old.
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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18 Mar 2006 07:26:16 PM |
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Cam Jones wrote:
Mister Driscoll, can you show me the "basic math" you use to prove your
theory?
So polite...makes brain hurt!
Anyway...spaceshit cannot prove anything he says. He is a tire salesman
in his 40s with no understanding of physics or mathematics. He will
whine over and over that physics is disproved by "basic math" yet he
cannot do any of the mathematics of the physics he is complaining
about.
"Hexenmesiter" is simply psychotic. If you don't understand what that
means, just observe his writings and his unhealthy obcession with
Einstein.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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18 Mar 2006 07:31:47 PM |
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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142731576.826346.127520@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Cam Jones wrote:
Mister Driscoll, can you show me the "basic math" you use to prove your
theory?
So polite...makes brain hurt!
Anyway...spaceshit cannot prove anything he says. He is a tire salesman
Wrong,
I am not a tire salesman
HA HA!
You seem to be wrong more than ever lately Eric.
You should take a break.
LOL
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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18 Mar 2006 07:40:07 PM |
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Spaceman wrote:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142731576.826346.127520@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Cam Jones wrote:
Mister Driscoll, can you show me the "basic math" you use to prove your
theory?
So polite...makes brain hurt!
Anyway...spaceshit cannot prove anything he says. He is a tire salesman
Wrong,
I am not a tire salesman
HA HA!
You seem to be wrong more than ever lately Eric.
You should take a break.
LOL
http://www.driscolltire.com/
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
18 Mar 2006 07:49:35 PM |
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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142732407.789694.96690@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Spaceman wrote:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142731576.826346.127520@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Cam Jones wrote:
Mister Driscoll, can you show me the "basic math" you use to prove
your
theory?
So polite...makes brain hurt!
Anyway...spaceshit cannot prove anything he says. He is a tire salesman
Wrong,
I am not a tire salesman
HA HA!
You seem to be wrong more than ever lately Eric.
You should take a break.
LOL
http://www.driscolltire.com/
Very old link Eric,
That was my fathers place.
And sadly, I have stated many times
I am a mechanic
(technology that I know you can not understand by your warped thoughts
you type about all the time)
LOL
Too bad you don't have a brain that is working well enough
to remember such an easy thing.
LOL
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
18 Mar 2006 08:10:20 PM |
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Spaceman wrote:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142732407.789694.96690@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Spaceman wrote:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142731576.826346.127520@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Cam Jones wrote:
Mister Driscoll, can you show me the "basic math" you use to prove
your
theory?
So polite...makes brain hurt!
Anyway...spaceshit cannot prove anything he says. He is a tire salesman
Wrong,
I am not a tire salesman
HA HA!
You seem to be wrong more than ever lately Eric.
You should take a break.
LOL
http://www.driscolltire.com/
Very old link Eric,
That was my fathers place.
And sadly, I have stated many times
I am a mechanic
(technology that I know you can not understand by your warped thoughts
you type about all the time)
LOL
Too bad you don't have a brain that is working well enough
to remember such an easy thing.
LOL
Yet you still understand zero mathematics and zero physics.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
18 Mar 2006 08:16:40 PM |
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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142734220.666286.240610@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Spaceman wrote:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142732407.789694.96690@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Spaceman wrote:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Cam Jones wrote:
Mister Driscoll, can you show me the "basic math" you use to prove
your
theory?
So polite...makes brain hurt!
Anyway...spaceshit cannot prove anything he says. He is a tire
salesman
Wrong,
I am not a tire salesman
HA HA!
You seem to be wrong more than ever lately Eric.
You should take a break.
LOL
http://www.driscolltire.com/
Very old link Eric,
That was my fathers place.
And sadly, I have stated many times
I am a mechanic
(technology that I know you can not understand by your warped thoughts
you type about all the time)
LOL
Too bad you don't have a brain that is working well enough
to remember such an easy thing.
LOL
Yet you still understand zero mathematics and zero physics.
Only in your warped mind.
I would love to see you try to time an older engine.
I can see you twisting the distributor and never being
able to even figure out what the strobing light does..
LOL
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
18 Mar 2006 08:29:07 PM |
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Spaceman wrote:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Spaceman wrote:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Spaceman wrote:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142731576.826346.127520@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Cam Jones wrote:
Mister Driscoll, can you show me the "basic math" you use to prove
your
theory?
So polite...makes brain hurt!
Anyway...spaceshit cannot prove anything he says. He is a tire
salesman
Wrong,
I am not a tire salesman
HA HA!
You seem to be wrong more than ever lately Eric.
You should take a break.
LOL
http://www.driscolltire.com/
Very old link Eric,
That was my fathers place.
And sadly, I have stated many times
I am a mechanic
(technology that I know you can not understand by your warped thoughts
you type about all the time)
LOL
Too bad you don't have a brain that is working well enough
to remember such an easy thing.
LOL
Yet you still understand zero mathematics and zero physics.
Only in your warped mind.
I would love to see you try to time an older engine.
I can see you twisting the distributor and never being
able to even figure out what the strobing light does..
LOL
Been there, done that. I rebuilt the engine on my 1990 Honda Prelude
after the engine chewed up an oil bearing that was sitting between a
connecting rod and the crankshaft, which was distributed evenly through
the oil.
Figuring out how to get the pistons secured to the rods was an
entertaining task. The Official tool was something you put with a
hydraulic press to mash the wrist pin through the piston and into the
connecting rod. Since I had no such tool, but I did have an
imagination, what I did was something much more entertaining. Heat
expands metal, and cold contracts it. Since the fit was so close I
figured I could simply tweak it in with a little imagination. What
worked was a blowtorch on the piston and dry ice on the wrist pin, with
a little coaxing from the hydraulic press with a careful arrangement.
Honda pistons shatter like glass under pressure.
The engine ran, and I kept the car until the transmission died.
....and you still know no mathematics or physics, however able you are
in an auto shop.
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Mental Aid to Comprehend GR (pls share yours) |
19 Mar 2006 03:00:24 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:10:20 -0800, Eric Gisse wrote:
[mucho snippage]
Yet you [Spaceman] still understand zero mathematics and zero physics.
If that. :-) Or has Spaceman finally figured out (-1) * (-1) yet? :-)
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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