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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "platopes"
Date: 05 Jan 2006 05:02:30 PM
Object: Milk and Orange Juice Anyone?
Often what makes a thing special/interesting is how it's different
from other things. So if science and religion are both belief systems
whip-dee-doo.
Not interesting.
The faith is placed *elsewhere*.
In this case that makes all the difference in the imaginable
universe. If you see God, all the better, but go easy with the
Punch-O-Matic label-maker.
The idea of science/physics seems like a reasonable request; "Can we
just have a peek at what seems to be going on, do you think?"
My two cents.
p
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User: "Pod Chumly"

Title: Re: Milk and Orange Juice Anyone? 05 Jan 2006 08:26:47 PM
"platopes" <platopes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Often what makes a thing special/interesting is how it's different
from other things. So if science and religion are both belief systems
whip-dee-doo.
Not interesting.
The faith is placed *elsewhere*.

religion is based upon faith. minus one cent.


In this case that makes all the difference in the imaginable
universe. If you see God, all the better, but go easy with the
Punch-O-Matic label-maker.

minus one cent.


The idea of science/physics seems like a reasonable request; "Can we
just have a peek at what seems to be going on, do you think?"

plus one cent.


My two cents.

you scored only one cent.


p

That is an English cent.
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User: "platopes"

Title: Re: Milk and Orange Juice Anyone? 06 Jan 2006 01:06:14 AM
Pod Chumly wrote:

"platopes" <platopes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136502150.775605.240050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Often what makes a thing special/interesting is how it's different
from other things. So if science and religion are both belief systems
whip-dee-doo.
Not interesting.
The faith is placed *elsewhere*.


religion is based upon faith. minus one cent.

For twenty-five dollars, is religion based upon faith in the value of
empirical observation?



In this case that makes all the difference in the imaginable
universe. If you see God, all the better, but go easy with the
Punch-O-Matic label-maker.


minus one cent.



The idea of science/physics seems like a reasonable request; "Can we
just have a peek at what seems to be going on, do you think?"



plus one cent.


My two cents.


you scored only one cent.


p


That is an English cent.

~:?)
p (there's no twenty-five dollars)
.
User: "Pod Chumbly"

Title: Re: Milk and Orange Juice Anyone? 06 Jan 2006 09:15:49 AM
"platopes" <platopes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pod Chumly wrote:

"platopes" <platopes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136502150.775605.240050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Often what makes a thing special/interesting is how it's different
from other things. So if science and religion are both belief systems
whip-dee-doo.
Not interesting.
The faith is placed *elsewhere*.


religion is based upon faith. minus one cent.


For twenty-five dollars, is religion based upon faith in the value of
empirical observation?

You have never been to a church have you? If so, What do they preach? Faith
in God?
Your statement about faith is completly wrong.
Empirical observation has nothing to do with it either.
Unless your in one of the newer west coast religions, like Heavens Gate.



In this case that makes all the difference in the imaginable
universe. If you see God, all the better, but go easy with the
Punch-O-Matic label-maker.


minus one cent.



The idea of science/physics seems like a reasonable request; "Can we
just have a peek at what seems to be going on, do you think?"



plus one cent.


My two cents.


you scored only one cent.


p


That is an English cent.


~:?)

p (there's no twenty-five dollars)

.
User: "platopes"

Title: Re: Milk and Orange Juice Anyone? 08 Jan 2006 08:01:52 PM
Pod Chumbly wrote:


religion is based upon faith.


For twenty-five dollars, is religion based upon faith in the value of
empirical observation?


You have never been to a church have you? If so, What do they preach? Faith
in God?

Right. Not just any old faith. Science, otoh, puts the faith in
concensus of empirically observed findings/results - "in our senses we
trust".

Your statement about faith is completly wrong.

Quite possibly...can you elaborate?

Empirical observation has nothing to do with it either.

With what?

Unless your in one of the newer west coast religions, like Heavens Gate.

It's just about that cold in Toronto...
p
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User: "Ken Muldrew"

Title: Re: Milk and Orange Juice Anyone? 06 Jan 2006 01:01:04 PM
"platopes" <platopes@yahoo.com> wrote:

Often what makes a thing special/interesting is how it's different
from other things. So if science and religion are both belief systems
whip-dee-doo.
Not interesting.
The faith is placed *elsewhere*.

Reliable knowledge vs. comforting knowledge. Surprisingly, some people
genuinely prefer the latter.
BTW, I wouldn't mix acid with milk until the last possible moment
(i.e. in the stomach). And what's with these people who check the
expiry date on sour cream?
Ken Muldrew
kmuldrezw@ucalgazry.ca
(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)
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User: "platopes"

Title: Re: Milk and Orange Juice Anyone? 08 Jan 2006 10:20:19 PM
Ken Muldrew wrote:

"platopes" <platopes@yahoo.com> wrote:

Often what makes a thing special/interesting is how it's different
from other things. So if science and religion are both belief systems
whip-dee-doo.
Not interesting.
The faith is placed *elsewhere*.


Reliable knowledge vs. comforting knowledge.

With a bit of each in the other; a certain amount of empirical
observation is needed in religion, a certain amount of faith is needed
to do science...?
IMO, the problem with the whole "faith vs reason" thing,
http://beta.messages.yahoo.com/Religion_%26_Beliefs/Atheism/threadview?bn=17916956%23reasonvsfaith&tid=1&mid=1&tof=1&m=tm&rt=2
is that relying on reason assumes a faith in the ability of one's
reasoning faculties to authentically probe/decode reality. So that
faith is a larger umbrella concept than the debate allows for.

Surprisingly, some people
genuinely prefer the latter.

Not the overwhelming majority?
What surprises me is that folks can find comfort in an "official
explanation" which still leaves the main questions un-answered - why
does God exist? How does God continue to exist? What's the point of it
all? What is this new knocking sound my engine is making?

BTW, I wouldn't mix acid with milk until the last possible moment
(i.e. in the stomach).

Also, do not mix science and religion until the last possible moment
(i.e. death). ~:?)

And what's with these people who check the
expiry date on sour cream?

To my great shame, literally *hundreds* of minutes passed before I
got this joke. Because I check, you know...
What's the coolest thing that's happened in your department within
the last year or so?
p
.

User: "platopes"

Title: Re: Milk and Orange Juice Anyone? 08 Jan 2006 08:22:25 PM
Ken Muldrew wrote:

"platopes" <platopes@yahoo.com> wrote:

Often what makes a thing special/interesting is how it's different
from other things. So if science and religion are both belief systems
whip-dee-doo.
Not interesting.
The faith is placed *elsewhere*.


Reliable knowledge vs. comforting knowledge.

With a bit of each in the other; a certain amount of empirical
observation is needed in religion, a certain amount of faith is needed
to do science...?
IMO, the problem with the whole "faith vs reason" thing,
http://beta.messages.yahoo.com/Religion_%26_Beliefs/Atheism/threadview?bn=17916956%23reasonvsfaith&tid=1&mid=1&tof=1&m=tm&rt=2
is that relying on reason assumes a faith in the ability of one's
reasoning faculties to authentically probe/decode reality. So that
faith is a larger umbrella concept than the debate allows for.

Surprisingly, some people
genuinely prefer the latter.

Not the overwhelming majority?
What surprises me is that folks can find comfort in an "official
explanation" which still leaves the main questions un-answered - why
does God exist? How does God continue to exist? What's the point of it
all? What is this new knocking sound my engine is making?

BTW, I wouldn't mix acid with milk until the last possible moment
(i.e. in the stomach).

Also, do not mix science and religion until the last possible moment
(i.e. death). ~:?)

And what's with these people who check the
expiry date on sour cream?

To my great shame, literally *hundreds* of minutes passed before I
got this joke. Because I check, you know...
What's the coolest thing that's happened in your department within
the last year or so?
p
.

User: "platopes"

Title: Re: Milk and Orange Juice Anyone? 08 Jan 2006 08:54:29 PM
Ken Muldrew wrote:

"platopes" <platopes@yahoo.com> wrote:

Often what makes a thing special/interesting is how it's different
from other things. So if science and religion are both belief systems
whip-dee-doo.
Not interesting.
The faith is placed *elsewhere*.


Reliable knowledge vs. comforting knowledge.

With a bit of each in the other; a certain amount of empirical
observation is needed in religion, a certain amount of faith is needed
to do science...?
IMO, the problem with the whole "faith vs reason" thing,
http://beta.messages.yahoo.com/Religion_%26_Beliefs/Atheism/threadview?bn=17916956%23reasonvsfaith&tid=1&mid=1&tof=1&m=tm&rt=2
is that relying on reason assumes a faith in the ability of one's
reasoning faculties to authentically probe/decode reality. So that
faith is a larger umbrella concept than the debate allows for.

Surprisingly, some people
genuinely prefer the latter.

Not the overwhelming majority?
What surprises me is that folks can find comfort in an "official
explanation" which still leaves the main questions un-answered - why
does God exist? How does God continue to exist? What's the point of it
all? What is this new knocking sound my engine is making?

BTW, I wouldn't mix acid with milk until the last possible moment
(i.e. in the stomach).

Also, do not mix science and religion until the last possible moment
(i.e. death). ~:?)

And what's with these people who check the
expiry date on sour cream?

To my great shame, literally *hundreds* of minutes passed before I
got this joke. Because I check, you know...
What's the coolest thing that's happened in your department within
the last year or so?
p
.



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