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User: "Jack Sarfatti"
Date: 22 Dec 2003 11:20:57 AM
Object: Mind of God
On Saturday, December 20, 2003, at 05:58 AM, MARK DUNN wrote:

Dear Jack Sarfatti

What if as hypothesized by the likes of Prof Frank Tipler, David Deutsh,
Prof Paul Davies and Nick Bostrum that we are all living within
a 'computer programme of an ancestral simulation' created by an advanced
super-civilisation within the far-flung future!
JS: Like "The Matrix" films. BTW I will be in London at least March 8 - 13.

MD: What if the 'simulation' so unaware at first becomes aware of its
own predicament by becoming frustrated at not being able to 'break
through the wall of light' and therefore assumes true sentience by
understanding that it is being caged within a loop of an enfolding
programmed cave of information!

Would this then make the 'Godmind' of the programmer very irate who then
decides to wipe the programme clean to then start again from scratch!
Perhaps this has happened many a time already and that each time of a
new Alpha of a begining when reaching an Omega point foreseen, the
programme contains elements of primary memories previously attained that
avoid being wiped clean, which survive unseen within our collective myths!

Myths of previous worlds remembering giant birds that flew across the
oceans spitting fire at cities to therefore destroy and of arrows that
could reach the moon from a heroe's bow. Perhaps, even to become aware
of ones part to live all over again at certain points in ones own life
reenacting and to foresee future events about to happen one already has
lived!

Perhaps such memories are left there to drive us forwards towards a
future pre-written looped back!

The Mayans have 2012 and the Chinese also have the same
mythic symbolic time indicator that has now become as a collective focus
pertaining to the end of 'time.' This shared time between America and
China may indicate that the scientists of these two nations prove
something that shocks humanity into awakening only then to initiate
a conflaguration of an apocalypse as the Godmind wipes the simulation clean!

Maybe this time indicator indicates our collective awareness of the
predicament and thereby the attainment of true sentience, which
invariably leads to the simulation being wiped again by the Godmind of
the programmer for it might be somewhat jealous and does not want
another to rival it.

But, what would happen if the simulation finds a way of not being wiped
clean and that it breaks free through the wall of light to strike the
Godmind in the eye?

Perhaps the simulation might then be welcomed as a prodigal child, but
would such a child stand the pace, and if not, only then to reel back
into an autohypnotic state of self induced trauma remembering fractured
memories becoming as mythic symbols to rise again when the child starts
to heal slowly from the future shock!

Of course there is another perspective and that this reality is a
'self-generated simulation' amongst a myriad number of others!

Then we have the somewhat mundane dilemma of dealing with certain
past individuals who have molded human society by their influence and
were in fact influenced by a signal looping back from the future!

Should such an influence be proved that their electron dreams were
merely spun by a charged signal from the future it would have far
reaching implications that might set the very world on fire.

Were such individuals such as Christ, Muhammad and Abraham for
example aware of the nature of the charged signal's true origin that
spun their electron dreams?

Perhaps not, since the signal was filtered through their culturally and
socially imprinted neural-nets and therefore saw only what they were
expecting to see pertaining to whatever internal dialogue they ascribed to!

Of course the signal is on going as to imprint certain individuals at
certain times whom see whatever they are imprinted to see, such as UFO's
and Grays where as before long ago they perceived Angels and Demons
for whatever is seen is always one step ahead as an unknowable!

Why an unknowable, which is masked by imprinted collective dialogue of a
symbol?

It is because a prodigal child who reaches into 'breaking through the
wall of light' will invariably reel back from the shock of it all into
an autohypnotic state of trauma that will mask the truer experince that
rises as a black tidal wave into consuming a fragile mind!

What be this truer experience?

That we are all sustaining a self-created reality of a particular brane
and that we are all unconsciously shifting between alternate branes all
of the time without even realising it and the proof of it lies within
the nature of synchronicity subtle, for each synchronicity is a stargate
into an alternate brane next door!

This particular brane is just one of a myriad number of others tuned
into and that we can consciously engineer the tuning into others should
we desire!

But if this be true that a subtle synchronicity indicates a shift into
an alternate brane next door one would then invariably find that the
true nature of 'Magick' and its power is very much alive and that this
power resides within each and every one of us all!

The super technology of a computer and of walking a myriad worlds is
here already...for it is us, self-created!

Yours Sincerely

Mark Dunn
JS: Well you have a germ of an idea for a Sci Fi film.



On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:10:12 -0000, MARK DUNN wrote:
Dear Schwann

From burning bushes to God phones picking up a signal of a mass focus of
many minds cohered by emotively charged symbols that spin the electron
dreams of those zapped by lightening winding back as in a loop!

How many a Moses, Christ's, Abraham's, Muhammad's, Pacal Votan's, Buddha's
etc does it take to change a lightbulb as they all stand one legged on a
tightrope of a spun super-stringed lightening zap of a telephone line?

What can we make of those who wander wind swept fields in the dead of night
dressed in black creating crop-circles and when caught out they say that the
aliens in their heads got them to do it?

Of course such individuals may just go and phone up certain people making
out that they are an alien or two as they speak like a computer and again
driven to do so by the voices strobing their brains!

And when they are not about to get spun into the Wyrd of the web trembled by
a possible consciously engineered directed signal of an emotive charge
certain predisposed individuals see dancing lights that hum a vortex into
opening up on a side of the hill as the eye of the moon hides its self away
behind a looming triangular cloud!

As the lights do dance to hypnotise into spinning those into seeing and
without realising they are spun into an alternate brane next door!

Perhaps a certain individual whose eyes becomes glazed over as if in trance
not themselves for a moment becomes as a window to look through by a time
traveller of a tourist who zaps their neural-net by spinning their electron
dream as a stargate to open to thereby perceive when not in trance a crop
circed mandala that suddenly appears within another brane verily spun into!

The reasoning behind all of this perhaps being that to engineer fractal
realities of alternate branes next door to light up like so many
lightbulbs!"


Yours Sincerely

Mark Dunn










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User: "Mu-Pi"

Title: Re: Mind of God 22 Dec 2003 07:17:33 PM
"Jack Sarfatti" <sarfatti@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:ZJFFb.1589$_Z7.3@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
Hello crackpot.
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User: "Brad Guth"

Title: Re: Mind of God 29 Dec 2003 12:52:08 PM
Here I thought in this GOOGLE site, of whatever God was restricted
and/or moderated to NASA/NSA/DoD, now DHS.
Seems there's some folks that certainly talk and act the part like
God, as they certainly are those willing and able to terminate
whatever life as we know it, especially mine. Though I guess I'm just
happy that I'm not one of those nice Cathars having to dodge another
round of exterminations by the Pope, though our resident warlord has
certainly been doing his fair share of mastering carnage based upon
lies similar to but not even nearly as good as what the Catholic
church used to justify their actions. Although, we've got the "so
what's the difference" as our ultimate qualifier that trumps anything
Pope.
BTW; did anyone here bother to check out David Sereda, and of his
http://www.ufonasa.com/ "EVIDENCE the case for NASA UFOs"
In some of my recent additions to the MAZDA like "Internal Rocket
Rotary Combustion Engine (IRRCE sfc = 15+KW/kg)", there seems we also
have ourselves a wee bit of lunar He3 to burn off.
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-h2o2-irrce.htm
The taking of lunar He3 is "first come first served", that could be
the likes of China or Russia because, we're obviously not smart
enough.
"Venus, not Mars, still offers life; via moon He3 could help turn the
trick"
I've got a few more words of wisdom to offer on behalf of the ARTEMIS
PROJECT (lunar He3) http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-lse-he3.htm
The rest of this report isn't entirely related to energy so much as it
relates to truth or consequences. Such as for this next topic of there
being other life NOT as we know it on Venus, that's obviously opposing
the sorts of anti-humanity folks that couldn't care less if our entire
world was destroyed by their resident warlord. Perhaps these folks can
get their next level of future funding from the same source as Bush,
Salem Laden.
As for making policy look like happenstance, and/or vice versa, is key
to snookering folks. http://guthvenus.tripod.com/moon-04.htm
Though as for we humans need not, and perhaps we should not venture
ourselves much beyond Venus L2 (VL2). Wouldn't want to contaminate a
perfectly good planet with our inferior DNA nor lack of morals,
especially of this group that's bashing honest research just out of
spite. Besides, their stealth donkey-carts could be far more lethal
than what our WMD donkey-carts can manage.
As far as our human physiology being adaptable to pressure. Under such
pressure things are not nearly as hot as we've been told, and you wont
need but a fraction of a percent of O2. Of course, that degree of
adaptation might have to be accommodated at a modus rate of a few bars
per day.
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/venus-air.htm
I have a few other recent/ongoing comments on H2O2/C12H26 and of He3:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-irrce.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-hybrid-irc.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-cm-ccm-01.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-lm-1.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/radio-maybe.htm
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User: "JJ"

Title: Re: Mind of God 11 Jan 2004 05:14:30 PM
I want some of what he is smoking! Damn
Jack Sarfatti wrote:

On Saturday, December 20, 2003, at 05:58 AM, MARK DUNN wrote:


Dear Jack Sarfatti

What if as hypothesized by the likes of Prof Frank Tipler, David Deutsh,
Prof Paul Davies and Nick Bostrum that we are all living within a
'computer programme of an ancestral simulation' created by an advanced
super-civilisation within the far-flung future!

JS: Like "The Matrix" films. BTW I will be in London at least March 8 - 13.

MD: What if the 'simulation' so unaware at first becomes aware of its
own predicament by becoming frustrated at not being able to 'break
through the wall of light' and therefore assumes true sentience by
understanding that it is being caged within a loop of an enfolding
programmed cave of information!

Would this then make the 'Godmind' of the programmer very irate who then
decides to wipe the programme clean to then start again from scratch!
Perhaps this has happened many a time already and that each time of a
new Alpha of a begining when reaching an Omega point foreseen, the
programme contains elements of primary memories previously attained that
avoid being wiped clean, which survive unseen within our collective myths!

Myths of previous worlds remembering giant birds that flew across the
oceans spitting fire at cities to therefore destroy and of arrows that
could reach the moon from a heroe's bow. Perhaps, even to become aware
of ones part to live all over again at certain points in ones own life
reenacting and to foresee future events about to happen one already has
lived!

Perhaps such memories are left there to drive us forwards towards a
future pre-written looped back!

The Mayans have 2012 and the Chinese also have the same mythic symbolic
time indicator that has now become as a collective focus pertaining to
the end of 'time.' This shared time between America and China may
indicate that the scientists of these two nations prove something that
shocks humanity into awakening only then to initiate a conflaguration of
an apocalypse as the Godmind wipes the simulation clean!

Maybe this time indicator indicates our collective awareness of the
predicament and thereby the attainment of true sentience, which
invariably leads to the simulation being wiped again by the Godmind of
the programmer for it might be somewhat jealous and does not want
another to rival it.

But, what would happen if the simulation finds a way of not being wiped
clean and that it breaks free through the wall of light to strike the
Godmind in the eye?

Perhaps the simulation might then be welcomed as a prodigal child, but
would such a child stand the pace, and if not, only then to reel back
into an autohypnotic state of self induced trauma remembering fractured
memories becoming as mythic symbols to rise again when the child starts
to heal slowly from the future shock!

Of course there is another perspective and that this reality is a
'self-generated simulation' amongst a myriad number of others!

Then we have the somewhat mundane dilemma of dealing with certain past
individuals who have molded human society by their influence and were in
fact influenced by a signal looping back from the future!

Should such an influence be proved that their electron dreams were
merely spun by a charged signal from the future it would have far
reaching implications that might set the very world on fire.

Were such individuals such as Christ, Muhammad and Abraham for example
aware of the nature of the charged signal's true origin that spun their
electron dreams?

Perhaps not, since the signal was filtered through their culturally and
socially imprinted neural-nets and therefore saw only what they were
expecting to see pertaining to whatever internal dialogue they ascribed to!

Of course the signal is on going as to imprint certain individuals at
certain times whom see whatever they are imprinted to see, such as UFO's
and Grays where as before long ago they perceived Angels and Demons for
whatever is seen is always one step ahead as an unknowable!

Why an unknowable, which is masked by imprinted collective dialogue of a
symbol?

It is because a prodigal child who reaches into 'breaking through the
wall of light' will invariably reel back from the shock of it all into
an autohypnotic state of trauma that will mask the truer experince that
rises as a black tidal wave into consuming a fragile mind!

What be this truer experience?

That we are all sustaining a self-created reality of a particular brane
and that we are all unconsciously shifting between alternate branes all
of the time without even realising it and the proof of it lies within
the nature of synchronicity subtle, for each synchronicity is a stargate
into an alternate brane next door!

This particular brane is just one of a myriad number of others tuned
into and that we can consciously engineer the tuning into others should
we desire!

But if this be true that a subtle synchronicity indicates a shift into
an alternate brane next door one would then invariably find that the
true nature of 'Magick' and its power is very much alive and that this
power resides within each and every one of us all!

The super technology of a computer and of walking a myriad worlds is
here already...for it is us, self-created!

Yours Sincerely

Mark Dunn

JS: Well you have a germ of an idea for a Sci Fi film.



On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:10:12 -0000, MARK DUNN wrote:
Dear Schwann

From burning bushes to God phones picking up a signal of a mass focus of
many minds cohered by emotively charged symbols that spin the electron
dreams of those zapped by lightening winding back as in a loop!

How many a Moses, Christ's, Abraham's, Muhammad's, Pacal Votan's, Buddha's
etc does it take to change a lightbulb as they all stand one legged on a
tightrope of a spun super-stringed lightening zap of a telephone line?

What can we make of those who wander wind swept fields in the dead of night
dressed in black creating crop-circles and when caught out they say that
the
aliens in their heads got them to do it?

Of course such individuals may just go and phone up certain people making
out that they are an alien or two as they speak like a computer and again
driven to do so by the voices strobing their brains!

And when they are not about to get spun into the Wyrd of the web
trembled by
a possible consciously engineered directed signal of an emotive charge
certain predisposed individuals see dancing lights that hum a vortex into
opening up on a side of the hill as the eye of the moon hides its self away
behind a looming triangular cloud!

As the lights do dance to hypnotise into spinning those into seeing and
without realising they are spun into an alternate brane next door!

Perhaps a certain individual whose eyes becomes glazed over as if in trance
not themselves for a moment becomes as a window to look through by a time
traveller of a tourist who zaps their neural-net by spinning their electron
dream as a stargate to open to thereby perceive when not in trance a crop
circed mandala that suddenly appears within another brane verily spun into!

The reasoning behind all of this perhaps being that to engineer fractal
realities of alternate branes next door to light up like so many
lightbulbs!"


Yours Sincerely

Mark Dunn











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User: "Alexander Whiteside"

Title: Re: Mind of God 13 Jan 2004 02:40:03 AM
Problem is, for all intents and purposes, if the simulation works as
perfectly as is claimed (i.e. there is no apparent inconsistency in the
physical laws), then you might as well wield Occam's razor and cut out the
simulation part, as there's no way of proving or disproving its existence.
"JJ" <planetj7@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:4001D8D6.8080609@bellsouth.net...

I want some of what he is smoking! Damn

Jack Sarfatti wrote:

On Saturday, December 20, 2003, at 05:58 AM, MARK DUNN wrote:


Dear Jack Sarfatti

What if as hypothesized by the likes of Prof Frank Tipler, David Deutsh,
Prof Paul Davies and Nick Bostrum that we are all living within a
'computer programme of an ancestral simulation' created by an advanced
super-civilisation within the far-flung future!

JS: Like "The Matrix" films. BTW I will be in London at least March 8 -

13.


MD: What if the 'simulation' so unaware at first becomes aware of its
own predicament by becoming frustrated at not being able to 'break
through the wall of light' and therefore assumes true sentience by
understanding that it is being caged within a loop of an enfolding
programmed cave of information!

Would this then make the 'Godmind' of the programmer very irate who then
decides to wipe the programme clean to then start again from scratch!
Perhaps this has happened many a time already and that each time of a
new Alpha of a begining when reaching an Omega point foreseen, the
programme contains elements of primary memories previously attained that
avoid being wiped clean, which survive unseen within our collective

myths!


Myths of previous worlds remembering giant birds that flew across the
oceans spitting fire at cities to therefore destroy and of arrows that
could reach the moon from a heroe's bow. Perhaps, even to become aware
of ones part to live all over again at certain points in ones own life
reenacting and to foresee future events about to happen one already has
lived!

Perhaps such memories are left there to drive us forwards towards a
future pre-written looped back!

The Mayans have 2012 and the Chinese also have the same mythic symbolic
time indicator that has now become as a collective focus pertaining to
the end of 'time.' This shared time between America and China may
indicate that the scientists of these two nations prove something that
shocks humanity into awakening only then to initiate a conflaguration of
an apocalypse as the Godmind wipes the simulation clean!

Maybe this time indicator indicates our collective awareness of the
predicament and thereby the attainment of true sentience, which
invariably leads to the simulation being wiped again by the Godmind of
the programmer for it might be somewhat jealous and does not want
another to rival it.

But, what would happen if the simulation finds a way of not being wiped
clean and that it breaks free through the wall of light to strike the
Godmind in the eye?

Perhaps the simulation might then be welcomed as a prodigal child, but
would such a child stand the pace, and if not, only then to reel back
into an autohypnotic state of self induced trauma remembering fractured
memories becoming as mythic symbols to rise again when the child starts
to heal slowly from the future shock!

Of course there is another perspective and that this reality is a
'self-generated simulation' amongst a myriad number of others!

Then we have the somewhat mundane dilemma of dealing with certain past
individuals who have molded human society by their influence and were in
fact influenced by a signal looping back from the future!

Should such an influence be proved that their electron dreams were
merely spun by a charged signal from the future it would have far
reaching implications that might set the very world on fire.

Were such individuals such as Christ, Muhammad and Abraham for example
aware of the nature of the charged signal's true origin that spun their
electron dreams?

Perhaps not, since the signal was filtered through their culturally and
socially imprinted neural-nets and therefore saw only what they were
expecting to see pertaining to whatever internal dialogue they ascribed

to!


Of course the signal is on going as to imprint certain individuals at
certain times whom see whatever they are imprinted to see, such as UFO's
and Grays where as before long ago they perceived Angels and Demons for
whatever is seen is always one step ahead as an unknowable!

Why an unknowable, which is masked by imprinted collective dialogue of a
symbol?

It is because a prodigal child who reaches into 'breaking through the
wall of light' will invariably reel back from the shock of it all into
an autohypnotic state of trauma that will mask the truer experince that
rises as a black tidal wave into consuming a fragile mind!

What be this truer experience?

That we are all sustaining a self-created reality of a particular brane
and that we are all unconsciously shifting between alternate branes all
of the time without even realising it and the proof of it lies within
the nature of synchronicity subtle, for each synchronicity is a stargate
into an alternate brane next door!

This particular brane is just one of a myriad number of others tuned
into and that we can consciously engineer the tuning into others should
we desire!

But if this be true that a subtle synchronicity indicates a shift into
an alternate brane next door one would then invariably find that the
true nature of 'Magick' and its power is very much alive and that this
power resides within each and every one of us all!

The super technology of a computer and of walking a myriad worlds is
here already...for it is us, self-created!

Yours Sincerely

Mark Dunn

JS: Well you have a germ of an idea for a Sci Fi film.



On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:10:12 -0000, MARK DUNN wrote:
Dear Schwann

From burning bushes to God phones picking up a signal of a mass focus

of

many minds cohered by emotively charged symbols that spin the electron
dreams of those zapped by lightening winding back as in a loop!

How many a Moses, Christ's, Abraham's, Muhammad's, Pacal Votan's,

Buddha's

etc does it take to change a lightbulb as they all stand one legged on a
tightrope of a spun super-stringed lightening zap of a telephone line?

What can we make of those who wander wind swept fields in the dead of

night

dressed in black creating crop-circles and when caught out they say that
the
aliens in their heads got them to do it?

Of course such individuals may just go and phone up certain people

making

out that they are an alien or two as they speak like a computer and

again

driven to do so by the voices strobing their brains!

And when they are not about to get spun into the Wyrd of the web
trembled by
a possible consciously engineered directed signal of an emotive charge
certain predisposed individuals see dancing lights that hum a vortex

into

opening up on a side of the hill as the eye of the moon hides its self

away

behind a looming triangular cloud!

As the lights do dance to hypnotise into spinning those into seeing and
without realising they are spun into an alternate brane next door!

Perhaps a certain individual whose eyes becomes glazed over as if in

trance

not themselves for a moment becomes as a window to look through by a

time

traveller of a tourist who zaps their neural-net by spinning their

electron

dream as a stargate to open to thereby perceive when not in trance a

crop

circed mandala that suddenly appears within another brane verily spun

into!


The reasoning behind all of this perhaps being that to engineer fractal
realities of alternate branes next door to light up like so many
lightbulbs!"


Yours Sincerely

Mark Dunn












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