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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "kenseto"
Date: 27 May 2007 08:51:36 AM
Object: Model Mechanics on the Orgin of the Universe
A paper entitled "The Origin of the Universe as Interpreted by Model
Mechanics" is available in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2006universe.pdf
Also please visit my website for more papers on Model Mechanics.
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/index.htm
Ken Seto
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User: "Dirk Van de moortel"

Title: Re: Model Mechanics on the Orgin of the Universe 27 May 2007 09:03:36 AM
"kenseto" <kenseto@woh.rr.com> wrote in message news:46598b91$0$16537$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

A paper entitled "The Origin of the Universe as Interpreted by Model
Mechanics" is available in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2006universe.pdf

Directly plagiarized from
http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/clavvs/clavvs2.jpg
Dirk Vdm
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User: ""

Title: Re: Model Mechanics on the Orgin of the Universe 27 May 2007 03:43:24 PM

A paper entitled "The Origin of the Universe as Interpreted by Model
Mechanics" is available in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2006universe.pdf


Directly plagiarized from
http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/clavvs/clavvs2.jpg

Dirk Vdm

Cut the roll in half, sell it for pee pee wiping, name it 'I want
some'.
Half-cut toilet roll for men.
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User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Model Mechanics on the Orgin of the Universe 27 May 2007 03:47:21 PM
On May 27, 6:51 am, "kenseto" <kens...@woh.rr.com> wrote:

A paper entitled "The Origin of the Universe as Interpreted by Model
Mechanics" is available in the following link:http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2006universe.pdf
Also please visit my website for more papers on Model Mechanics.http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/index.htm

Ken Seto

How about showing how your theory correctly predicts Mercury's
perihelion advance?
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User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: Model Mechanics on the Orgin of the Universe 27 May 2007 02:58:29 PM
kenseto wrote:

A paper entitled "The Origin of the Universe as Interpreted by Model
Mechanics" is available in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2006universe.pdf
Also please visit my website for more papers on Model Mechanics.
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/index.htm

Ken Seto


Ken, this is the same old *****, and it is wrong--not in agreement
with the results of observation and experiment. For example,
consider two entities, A and B, experiencing relative motion
such that each measures dv/dt = 0 and c > |dr/dt| >> 0 with respect
to each other.
Consider observer A. A will *measure* B's clock to run slow.
Similarly, B will *measure* A's clock to run slow. And, of course,
this is expected due to the symmetric relationship between A and B.
The degree of *measured* time dilation is exactly as is predicted
by Einstein's special relativity.
Now let's put some numbers to this. Let |dr/dt| equal 10000.0 km/s.
Then A will measure B's clock to run slow by a factor of 1.00056,
and B will *measure* A's clock to run slow by a factor of 1.00056.
Each measures the other's clock to run slower than her own.
Furthermore, Ken, time dilation can come from relative velocity *and*
from gravitation. Sometime we have to deal with both.
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User: "kenseto"

Title: Re: Model Mechanics on the Orgin of the Universe 28 May 2007 09:11:47 AM
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:Fpl6i.135726$_c5.8823@attbi_s22...

kenseto wrote:

A paper entitled "The Origin of the Universe as Interpreted by Model
Mechanics" is available in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2006universe.pdf
Also please visit my website for more papers on Model Mechanics.
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/index.htm

Ken Seto



Ken, this is the same old *****, and it is wrong--not in agreement
with the results of observation and experiment. For example,
consider two entities, A and B, experiencing relative motion
such that each measures dv/dt = 0 and c > |dr/dt| >> 0 with respect
to each other.

Consider observer A. A will *measure* B's clock to run slow.

Hey idiot ......no such measurement is made. A predicts B's clock is running
slow. Such prediction is incomplete. The complete predictions are: A
predicts B's clock is running slow OR fast.


Similarly, B will *measure* A's clock to run slow.

Similarly, B will predict A's clock is running slow OR fast.

And, of course,
this is expected due to the symmetric relationship between A and B.
The degree of *measured* time dilation is exactly as is predicted
by Einstein's special relativity.

There is no symmetry exist between A and B. The symmetric geometric effect
predicted by SR is wrong. For example if A is the ground clock and B is teh
GPS clock.....from the ground clock point of view the SR effect on the GPS
clock is 7 us/day running slow; from the GPS clock point of view the SR
effect on the ground clock is approximately 7 us/day running fast.


Now let's put some numbers to this. Let |dr/dt| equal 10000.0 km/s.
Then A will measure B's clock to run slow by a factor of 1.00056,
and B will *measure* A's clock to run slow by a factor of 1.00056.

This is stupidly wrong. The correct predictions by A and B are as follows:
1. A will predict B's clock to run slow by a factor of 1/1.00056
2. A will predict B's clock to run fast by a factor of 1.0056.
3. B will predict A's clock to run slow by a factor of 1/1.00056.
4. B will predict A's clock to run fast by a factor of 1.00056.


Each measures the other's clock to run slower than her own.

This is an incomplete assumption of SR. It is valid only if the observed
clock is really running slower. This is the reason why SR is valid for use
in accelerator design applications where the observed particles are
originated from the rest frame of the lab.
BTW how does what you wrote have anything to do with this thread entitled
"Model Mechanics on the Origin of the Universe"?????? You didn't read this
paper at all did you?
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