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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Clifford Nelson"
Date: 24 Apr 2007 06:16:52 PM
Object: momentum vectors
Velocity is speed in a direction and represented by a vector. The length
of the vector is the speed. Mass times velocity is called momentum in
the physics text books. A vector that represents momentum (mass times
velocity) should have a volume to mean the mass. If the end points of
the vector are four-dimensional points in the Synergetics coordinate
system the end points are shown as regular tetrahedrons with vertexes in
the point lattice of closest packed equal diameter spheres. The vectors
will have a volume, length, and direction.
How are momentum vectors represented without Synergetics coordinates now?
Cliff Nelson
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User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: momentum vectors 25 Apr 2007 01:59:07 AM
"Clifford Nelson" <cnelson9@adelphia.net> wrote in message =
news:cnelson9-9FC2BA.16165224042007@news.verizon.net...

Velocity is speed in a direction and represented by a vector. The =

length=20

of the vector is the speed. Mass times velocity is called momentum in=20
the physics text books. A vector that represents momentum (mass times=20
velocity) should have a volume to mean the mass. If the end points of=20
the vector are four-dimensional points in the Synergetics coordinate=20
system the end points are shown as regular tetrahedrons with vertexes =

in=20

the point lattice of closest packed equal diameter spheres. The =

vectors=20

will have a volume, length, and direction.
=20
How are momentum vectors represented without Synergetics coordinates =

now?

=20
Cliff Nelson

Displacement is a vector. Velocity is displacement in unit time.
Time is not a vector, mass is not a vector, they are scalars.=20
Therefore by leaving out time and mass, displacement is all you need=20
in what is after all only a visual aid to understanding.
For force:
Three horses pull north, four horses pull east, the resultant is as if =
five=20
horses pulled east-by-northeast (53 degrees), and that is displacement.
(4,0,0) + (0,3,0) =3D (4,3,0)
For velocity:
A horse walks east-by-northeast (53 degrees) at 5 mph, it arrives at =
(4,3,0) after=20
one hour.
Why would you want a thick fat broad line representing the load on=20
it's back?
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Vector/Vector.htm
.
User: "Clifford Nelson"

Title: Re: momentum vectors 25 Apr 2007 03:22:20 AM
In article <%_CXh.59746$aB1.11762@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote:

"Clifford Nelson" <cnelson9@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:cnelson9-9FC2BA.16165224042007@news.verizon.net...

Velocity is speed in a direction and represented by a vector. The length
of the vector is the speed. Mass times velocity is called momentum in
the physics text books. A vector that represents momentum (mass times
velocity) should have a volume to mean the mass. If the end points of
the vector are four-dimensional points in the Synergetics coordinate
system the end points are shown as regular tetrahedrons with vertexes in
the point lattice of closest packed equal diameter spheres. The vectors
will have a volume, length, and direction.

How are momentum vectors represented without Synergetics coordinates now?

Cliff Nelson


Displacement is a vector. Velocity is displacement in unit time.
Time is not a vector, mass is not a vector, they are scalars.
Therefore by leaving out time and mass, displacement is all you need
in what is after all only a visual aid to understanding.

For force:
Three horses pull north, four horses pull east, the resultant is as if five
horses pulled east-by-northeast (53 degrees), and that is displacement.

(4,0,0) + (0,3,0) = (4,3,0)

For velocity:
A horse walks east-by-northeast (53 degrees) at 5 mph, it arrives at (4,3,0)
after
one hour.

Why would you want a thick fat broad line representing the load on
it's back?

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Vector/Vector.htm

How do you represent the same displacement in unit time of different
masses?
Cliff Nelson
Dry your tears, there's more fun for your ears,
"Forward Into The Past" 2 PM to 5 PM, Sundays,
California time,
http://www.geocities.com/forwardintothepast/
Don't be a square or a blockhead; see:
http://bfi.org/node/574
http://library.wolfram.com/infocenter/search/?search_results=1;search_per
son_id=607
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: momentum vectors 25 Apr 2007 03:38:34 AM
"Clifford Nelson" <cnelson9@adelphia.net> wrote in message =
news:cnelson9-517C40.01221925042007@news.verizon.net...

In article <%_CXh.59746$aB1.11762@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote:
=20

"Clifford Nelson" <cnelson9@adelphia.net> wrote in message=20
news:cnelson9-9FC2BA.16165224042007@news.verizon.net...

Velocity is speed in a direction and represented by a vector. The =

length=20

of the vector is the speed. Mass times velocity is called momentum =

in=20

the physics text books. A vector that represents momentum (mass =

times=20

velocity) should have a volume to mean the mass. If the end points =

of=20

the vector are four-dimensional points in the Synergetics =

coordinate=20

system the end points are shown as regular tetrahedrons with =

vertexes in=20

the point lattice of closest packed equal diameter spheres. The =

vectors=20

will have a volume, length, and direction.
=20
How are momentum vectors represented without Synergetics =

coordinates now?

=20
Cliff Nelson

=20
Displacement is a vector. Velocity is displacement in unit time.
Time is not a vector, mass is not a vector, they are scalars.=20
Therefore by leaving out time and mass, displacement is all you need=20
in what is after all only a visual aid to understanding.
=20
For force:
Three horses pull north, four horses pull east, the resultant is as =

if five=20

horses pulled east-by-northeast (53 degrees), and that is =

displacement.

=20
(4,0,0) + (0,3,0) =3D (4,3,0)
=20
For velocity:
A horse walks east-by-northeast (53 degrees) at 5 mph, it arrives at =

(4,3,0)=20

after=20
one hour.
=20
Why would you want a thick fat broad line representing the load on=20
it's back?
=20
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Vector/Vector.htm

=20
How do you represent the same displacement in unit time of different=20
masses?

I'll answer your question after you've answered mine.
Get a math degree *before* you attempt physics.=20
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/VectorSpace.html
.
User: "Dirk Van de moortel"

Title: Re: momentum vectors 26 Apr 2007 02:56:50 PM
"Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote in message news:esEXh.80074$ne6.41195@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
"Clifford Nelson" <cnelson9@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:cnelson9-517C40.01221925042007@news.verizon.net...

In article <%_CXh.59746$aB1.11762@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote:


[snip]

Why would you want a thick fat broad line representing the load on
it's back?

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Vector/Vector.htm


How do you represent the same displacement in unit time of different
masses?


I'll answer your question after you've answered mine.

Get a math degree *before* you attempt physics.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/VectorSpace.html

Androfart does vectors:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/IdiotVectors.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AndroVec.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/VectorLength.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/VectorSpaces.html
Dirk Vdm
.




User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: momentum vectors 25 Apr 2007 08:46:06 PM
On Apr 24, 3:16 pm, Clifford Nelson <cnels...@adelphia.net> wrote:

Velocity is speed in a direction and represented by a vector. The length
of the vector is the speed. Mass times velocity is called momentum in
the physics text books. A vector that represents momentum (mass times
velocity) should have a volume to mean the mass. If the end points of
the vector are four-dimensional points in the Synergetics coordinate
system the end points are shown as regular tetrahedrons with vertexes in
the point lattice of closest packed equal diameter spheres. The vectors
will have a volume, length, and direction.

How are momentum vectors represented without Synergetics coordinates now?

Easily. Magnitude and direction.
No "synergetics" ***** required.


Cliff Nelson

Dry your tears, there's more fun for your ears,
"Forward Into The Past" 2 PM to 5 PM, Sundays,
California time,http://www.geocities.com/forwardintothepast/
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son_id=607

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