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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Robert Clark"
Date: 26 Nov 2004 08:16:21 AM
Object: More on the "Planet X" controversy.
Solar System Surprise: A New View of What's Out There.
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 22 November 2004
06:24 am ET
"Given that our survey has covered almost the entire region of the
Kuiper Belt, I'm willing to bet these days that nothing larger than
Pluto will be found in the Kuiper Belt," says Caltech astronomer Mike
Brown."
....
"Brown, who now bets against finding Planet X in the Kuiper Belt,
thinks his group's discovery of Sedna portends an even more compelling
scenario.
"I'd also be willing to bet that there are many objects larger than
Pluto out in the region of space where Sedna lives," Brown said last
week. Out to about 1,000 AU, he speculates that there could be 10 or
20 Pluto-sized objects, "and a handful of larger things, too.' Some of
these suspected worlds could be as big as Mercury or even Mars, he
said."
"I asked Brown if there might be worlds larger than Pluto clear out at
the edge of the Oort Cloud, 1.5 light-years away and nearly half the
distance to the Alpha Centauri star system.
"Absolutely," he said. "Probably even likely."
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_041122.html
Bob Clark
.

User: "Hop David"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 26 Nov 2004 06:43:54 PM
Robert Clark wrote:

Solar System Surprise: A New View of What's Out There.
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 22 November 2004
06:24 am ET
"Given that our survey has covered almost the entire region of the
Kuiper Belt, I'm willing to bet these days that nothing larger than
Pluto will be found in the Kuiper Belt," says Caltech astronomer Mike
Brown."
...
"Brown, who now bets against finding Planet X in the Kuiper Belt,
thinks his group's discovery of Sedna portends an even more compelling
scenario.
"I'd also be willing to bet that there are many objects larger than
Pluto out in the region of space where Sedna lives," Brown said last
week. Out to about 1,000 AU, he speculates that there could be 10 or
20 Pluto-sized objects, "and a handful of larger things, too.' Some of
these suspected worlds could be as big as Mercury or even Mars, he
said."
"I asked Brown if there might be worlds larger than Pluto clear out at
the edge of the Oort Cloud, 1.5 light-years away and nearly half the
distance to the Alpha Centauri star system.
"Absolutely," he said. "Probably even likely."
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_041122.html


Bob Clark

Out to 1.5 light years out, who knows? I'm hoping for some brown dwarfs
in the neighborhood.
WISE is a mission I'm excited about:
http://wise.ssl.berkeley.edu/
If there are brown dwarfs nearby, I think WISE will find them.
I am hoping WISE will give us lots of info on asteroids as well.
--
Hop David
http://clowder.net/hop/index.html
.

User: "Earl Colby Pottinger"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 26 Nov 2004 06:15:36 PM
That is your idea of a controversy? Boy, you live a sheltered life.
Earl Colby Pottinger
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User: "DrPostman"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 26 Nov 2004 06:38:58 PM
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:15:36 -0600, Earl Colby Pottinger
<earlcp@idirect.com> in accordance with The Prophecy scribed:

That is your idea of a controversy? Boy, you live a sheltered life.

Earl Colby Pottinger

Well, it has been a while since NutterNan graced us with
her presence.
--
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Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® #15-51506-253.
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner - August 2004
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com
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User: "John Savard"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 27 Nov 2004 01:11:15 AM
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:15:36 -0600, Earl Colby Pottinger
<earlcp@idirect.com> wrote, in part:

That is your idea of a controversy? Boy, you live a sheltered life.

Not only that, but didn't he know that you don't dare refer to "Planet
***" in this newsgroup, for fear...
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
.
User: "John Savard"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 27 Nov 2004 07:36:09 PM
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 07:11:15 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) wrote, in part:

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:15:36 -0600, Earl Colby Pottinger
<earlcp@idirect.com> wrote, in part:

That is your idea of a controversy? Boy, you live a sheltered life.

Not only that, but didn't he know that you don't dare refer to "Planet
***" in this newsgroup, for fear...

Ah, no. It is sci.astro where they quake in terror at the thought Nancy
might return.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
.
User: "DrPostman"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 27 Nov 2004 07:33:53 PM
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:36:09 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) in accordance with The Prophecy scribed:

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 07:11:15 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) wrote, in part:

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:15:36 -0600, Earl Colby Pottinger
<earlcp@idirect.com> wrote, in part:


That is your idea of a controversy? Boy, you live a sheltered life.


Not only that, but didn't he know that you don't dare refer to "Planet
***" in this newsgroup, for fear...


Ah, no. It is sci.astro where they quake in terror at the thought Nancy
might return.

Not really. I have Nancy quaking in terror over the questions I asked
her on the Lou Gentile Show a few nights ago. The old gal got so
frazzled she tried to talk over me. Then she fired off several posts
on GLP and TT-Watch. It was quite a meltdown.
--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® #15-51506-253.
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner - August 2004
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com
"Again, think type and _them_ make sure that your babble is understood in
the common ENGLISH language."
-ExcrementOne displays his familiarity with irony
.
User: "John Savard"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 28 Nov 2004 08:28:33 PM
And now there's someone out there even nuttier than Nancy...
http://www.detailshere.com/coordinates.htm
claims that Nancy is working for NASA and/or the CIA, to help keep
Planet X a secret, by mixing in inaccurate information with her
pronouncements!
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
.
User: "Wally Anglesea"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 28 Nov 2004 09:02:24 PM
"John Savard" <jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid> wrote in message
news:41aa88fc.17520155@news.ecn.ab.ca...

And now there's someone out there even nuttier than Nancy...

http://www.detailshere.com/coordinates.htm

claims that Nancy is working for NASA and/or the CIA, to help keep
Planet X a secret, by mixing in inaccurate information with her
pronouncements!

It's true, but you've blown her cover. Now we have to kill you. After we
eliminate the website.
.


User: "Tom McDonald"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 27 Nov 2004 11:01:50 PM
DrPostman wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:36:09 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) in accordance with The Prophecy scribed:


On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 07:11:15 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) wrote, in part:

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:15:36 -0600, Earl Colby Pottinger
<earlcp@idirect.com> wrote, in part:


That is your idea of a controversy? Boy, you live a sheltered life.


Not only that, but didn't he know that you don't dare refer to "Planet
***" in this newsgroup, for fear...


Ah, no. It is sci.astro where they quake in terror at the thought Nancy
might return.




Not really. I have Nancy quaking in terror over the questions I asked
her on the Lou Gentile Show a few nights ago. The old gal got so
frazzled she tried to talk over me. Then she fired off several posts
on GLP and TT-Watch. It was quite a meltdown.

I didn't hear it, and I just checked TT-Watch after a very long
time in Sanity-Land. What astounds me is that she still has
followers. Given that she has followers, though, it does _not_
surprise me that they believe *because* there is no evidence,
and *because* Nancy is consistently wrong.
I have to give the voices in Nan's head credit, though. They
have staying power. I fully expect her to gather a swirl of
moons...er, sheep, behind her in the run-up to 2012. That'll be
a good time.
--
Tom McDonald
http://webpages.charter.net/tsmac/tmcdonald2672/
.

User: "John Savard"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 28 Nov 2004 08:07:21 PM
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:33:53 GMT, DrPostman <Looky@mysig.foremail>
wrote, in part:

Not really. I have Nancy quaking in terror over the questions I asked
her on the Lou Gentile Show a few nights ago.

Perhaps I should have been more careful in my phrasing. I did not mean
that sci.astro was afraid Nancy would expose orthodox astronomy as
false; I meant they were rather hoping she would not clutter their
newsgroup with irrelevant and nonsensical posts.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
.
User: "DrPostman"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 28 Nov 2004 10:07:19 PM
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:07:21 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) in accordance with The Prophecy scribed:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:33:53 GMT, DrPostman <Looky@mysig.foremail>
wrote, in part:

Not really. I have Nancy quaking in terror over the questions I asked
her on the Lou Gentile Show a few nights ago.


Perhaps I should have been more careful in my phrasing. I did not mean
that sci.astro was afraid Nancy would expose orthodox astronomy as
false; I meant they were rather hoping she would not clutter their
newsgroup with irrelevant and nonsensical posts.

Gotcha. I don't think that will be a problem. The only place she
responds to anyone but sycophants is on the Lou Gentile Show.
Her own email group, TT-Watch, isn't a place she feels safe replying
to anyone. Even on GLP she avoids doing more than posting her
silly claims. Her days on sci.astro are long gone.
--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® #15-51506-253.
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner - August 2004
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com
"Again, think type and _them_ make sure that your babble is understood in
the common ENGLISH language."
-ExcrementOne displays his familiarity with irony
.


User: "Wally Anglesea™"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 27 Nov 2004 08:50:50 PM
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:33:53 GMT, DrPostman <Looky@mysig.foremail>
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:36:09 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) in accordance with The Prophecy scribed:

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 07:11:15 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) wrote, in part:

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:15:36 -0600, Earl Colby Pottinger
<earlcp@idirect.com> wrote, in part:


That is your idea of a controversy? Boy, you live a sheltered life.


Not only that, but didn't he know that you don't dare refer to "Planet
***" in this newsgroup, for fear...


Ah, no. It is sci.astro where they quake in terror at the thought Nancy
might return.



Not really. I have Nancy quaking in terror over the questions I asked
her on the Lou Gentile Show a few nights ago. The old gal got so
frazzled she tried to talk over me. Then she fired off several posts
on GLP and TT-Watch. It was quite a meltdown.

Aww, do tell. Anywhere I can get a transcript?
--
Find out about Australia's most dangerous Doomsday Cult:
http://users.bigpond.net.au/wanglese/pebble.htm
"You can't fool me, it's turtles all the way down."
.
User: "DrPostman"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 28 Nov 2004 01:08:37 AM
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 02:50:50 GMT, Wally Anglesea™
<wanglese@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au> in accordance with The
Prophecy scribed:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:33:53 GMT, DrPostman <Looky@mysig.foremail>
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:36:09 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) in accordance with The Prophecy scribed:

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 07:11:15 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) wrote, in part:

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:15:36 -0600, Earl Colby Pottinger
<earlcp@idirect.com> wrote, in part:


That is your idea of a controversy? Boy, you live a sheltered life.


Not only that, but didn't he know that you don't dare refer to "Planet
***" in this newsgroup, for fear...


Ah, no. It is sci.astro where they quake in terror at the thought Nancy
might return.



Not really. I have Nancy quaking in terror over the questions I asked
her on the Lou Gentile Show a few nights ago. The old gal got so
frazzled she tried to talk over me. Then she fired off several posts
on GLP and TT-Watch. It was quite a meltdown.


Aww, do tell. Anywhere I can get a transcript?

Not yet, that I know of. The one NutterNan posted isn't what
took place. So few people pay attention to her nowadays that
I doubt one can be found. Lou thought it was great fun, and
didn't interrupt us. When she started talking over me I talked
right back, and caught her unawares with a few choice questions
like her October bills comment last year and the holidays crap
she said a year ago. You can see some of the fire from that on
GLP http://tinyurl.com/4kd7a is her alleged transcript
and where I busted her for lying: http://tinyurl.com/5nsr3
I gotta admit that the old gal is still entertaining.
--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® #15-51506-253.
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner - August 2004
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com
"Again, think type and _them_ make sure that your babble is understood in
the common ENGLISH language."
-ExcrementOne displays his familiarity with irony
.
User: "Wally Anglesea™"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 28 Nov 2004 04:17:45 PM
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:08:37 GMT, DrPostman <Looky@mysig.foremail>
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 02:50:50 GMT, Wally Anglesea™
<wanglese@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au> in accordance with The
Prophecy scribed:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:33:53 GMT, DrPostman <Looky@mysig.foremail>
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:36:09 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) in accordance with The Prophecy scribed:

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 07:11:15 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) wrote, in part:

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:15:36 -0600, Earl Colby Pottinger
<earlcp@idirect.com> wrote, in part:


That is your idea of a controversy? Boy, you live a sheltered life.


Not only that, but didn't he know that you don't dare refer to "Planet
***" in this newsgroup, for fear...


Ah, no. It is sci.astro where they quake in terror at the thought Nancy
might return.



Not really. I have Nancy quaking in terror over the questions I asked
her on the Lou Gentile Show a few nights ago. The old gal got so
frazzled she tried to talk over me. Then she fired off several posts
on GLP and TT-Watch. It was quite a meltdown.


Aww, do tell. Anywhere I can get a transcript?



Not yet, that I know of. The one NutterNan posted isn't what
took place. So few people pay attention to her nowadays that
I doubt one can be found. Lou thought it was great fun, and
didn't interrupt us. When she started talking over me I talked
right back, and caught her unawares with a few choice questions
like her October bills comment last year and the holidays crap
she said a year ago. You can see some of the fire from that on
GLP http://tinyurl.com/4kd7a is her alleged transcript
and where I busted her for lying: http://tinyurl.com/5nsr3

I gotta admit that the old gal is still entertaining.

Oh, man, not as entertaining as your hammering of her. Keep up the
good work. I think it's about time I revisited her webshite with a few
choice facts about the Sun :-)
(check out my new sunspot pictures)
http://users.bigpond.net.au/wanglese/Astronomy/Sun.html#NEW
--
Find out about Australia's most dangerous Doomsday Cult:
http://users.bigpond.net.au/wanglese/pebble.htm
"You can't fool me, it's turtles all the way down."
.
User: "DrPostman"

Title: Re: More on the "Planet X" controversy. 28 Nov 2004 04:31:16 PM
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:17:45 GMT, Wally Anglesea™
<wanglese@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au> in accordance with The
Prophecy scribed:

Oh, man, not as entertaining as your hammering of her. Keep up the
good work. I think it's about time I revisited her webshite with a few
choice facts about the Sun :-)

(check out my new sunspot pictures)
http://users.bigpond.net.au/wanglese/Astronomy/Sun.html#NEW

Nice pics.
--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® #15-51506-253.
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner - August 2004
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com
"Again, think type and _them_ make sure that your babble is understood in
the common ENGLISH language."
-ExcrementOne displays his familiarity with irony
.









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