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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Douglas Eagleson"
Date: 25 Mar 2007 02:50:32 PM
Object: My Double Propellor Idea- Erratic data
Well. Placing the whole contraption the car roof and then trying to
get a pc camera to view the little weight scale was attempted.
A set of data was attempted, but the weight scale bounced arround to
much at 20 mph.
ANd the tar function of the weight scale reared it head. I evidently
misunderstood. It has a negative display without showing a negative
symbol. It uses the tare sign.
So on closer retrial on a 12 volt car inverter.
2 lbs 2 oz. single propellor static thrust
2 lbs 1 oz. double propellor static thrust
A slight advantage +/- 1 oz.
I am at a loss to test the thing now
a basic idea was
20 mph 1 lbs +/- 5 oz either propeller
It was impossible to tell. The tare problem confounded the whole car
speed runs.
If I get a leaf blower does the same experiment occur?
I have a small table with an electric hand drill on a plank. ANd the
scale measures the table to plank horizontal force. And the plank was
on the car roof at 0 and 20 mph
Does inertia count?
Experimenting really stinks. Getting data is hard. Blowing the leaf
blower with a wind velocity meter will do something, but it is not the
same. Well I need to rummage arround thinking wise I guess.
.

User: "Douglas Eagleson"

Title: Re: My Double Propellor Idea- Erratic data 25 Mar 2007 03:40:55 PM
On Mar 25, 3:50 pm, "Douglas Eagleson" <eaglesondoug...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Well. Placing the whole contraption the car roof and then trying to
get a pc camera to view the little weight scale was attempted.

A set of data was attempted, but the weight scale bounced arround to
much at 20 mph.

ANd the tar function of the weight scale reared it head. I evidently
misunderstood. It has a negative display without showing a negative
symbol. It uses the tare sign.

So on closer retrial on a 12 volt car inverter.

2 lbs 2 oz. single propellor static thrust
2 lbs 1 oz. double propellor static thrust

A slight advantage +/- 1 oz.

I am at a loss to test the thing now

a basic idea was

20 mph 1 lbs +/- 5 oz either propeller

It was impossible to tell. The tare problem confounded the whole car
speed runs.

If I get a leaf blower does the same experiment occur?

I have a small table with an electric hand drill on a plank. ANd the
scale measures the table to plank horizontal force. And the plank was
on the car roof at 0 and 20 mph

Does inertia count?

Experimenting really stinks. Getting data is hard. Blowing the leaf
blower with a wind velocity meter will do something, but it is not the
same. Well I need to rummage arround thinking wise I guess.

A speed at which the forward thrust is zero was the idea behind using
a car. The little table has to fly along with the car! And it bounces
arround to much to get data.
A top speed as a true model airplane is possible. A gps in amodel
would give the top speed. BUt it gets all complicated. I have no
airplane and the 18 inch propellers would make a large airplane?
.
User: "Douglas Eagleson"

Title: Re: My Double Propellor Idea- Erratic data 25 Mar 2007 06:37:25 PM
On Mar 25, 4:40 pm, "Douglas Eagleson" <eaglesondoug...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Mar 25, 3:50 pm, "Douglas Eagleson" <eaglesondoug...@yahoo.com>
wrote:





Well. Placing the whole contraption the car roof and then trying to
get a pc camera to view the little weight scale was attempted.


A set of data was attempted, but the weight scale bounced arround to
much at 20 mph.


ANd the tar function of the weight scale reared it head. I evidently
misunderstood. It has a negative display without showing a negative
symbol. It uses the tare sign.


So on closer retrial on a 12 volt car inverter.


2 lbs 2 oz. single propellor static thrust
2 lbs 1 oz. double propellor static thrust


A slight advantage +/- 1 oz.


I am at a loss to test the thing now


a basic idea was


20 mph 1 lbs +/- 5 oz either propeller


It was impossible to tell. The tare problem confounded the whole car
speed runs.


If I get a leaf blower does the same experiment occur?


I have a small table with an electric hand drill on a plank. ANd the
scale measures the table to plank horizontal force. And the plank was
on the car roof at 0 and 20 mph


Does inertia count?


Experimenting really stinks. Getting data is hard. Blowing the leaf
blower with a wind velocity meter will do something, but it is not the
same. Well I need to rummage arround thinking wise I guess.


A speed at which the forward thrust is zero was the idea behind using
a car. The little table has to fly along with the car! And it bounces
arround to much to get data.

A top speed as a true model airplane is possible. A gps in amodel
would give the top speed. BUt it gets all complicated. I have no
airplane and the 18 inch propellers would make a large airplane?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A shaft that is unbalanced places an off axis load. ENhancing the
vibration.
A motor shaft to engine/motor along a single drive line balances.
So a housing like a metal tube is required. Exchange the electric
drill housing!
Take the plastic cover off the drill and place in a tube with roller
bearings triangluar!
And use an industrial strain guage.
I can reuse the drill motor. I just need a good strain guage with
rs-232 or usb sampling ports! And software.
.



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