Science > Physics > My formal _Answer_ to the eviction summons I was served yesterday.
| Topic: |
Science > Physics |
| User: |
"=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
| Date: |
15 Feb 2006 07:22:35 AM |
| Object: |
My formal _Answer_ to the eviction summons I was served yesterday. |
Hi Folks, What follows is my formal _Answer_ to
the eviction summons that I was served yesterday.
I'm Jeff Relf, who's been renting Room XX for over 5 years now,
located at 5515 55th Ave NE, Seattle, WA 98155, 206.555.5156,
replying this February 15th, 2006 in Answer to the plaintiff's Eviction_Summons.
The plaintiff's being Sharifah Sxxah and Lina Baxxxain,
who's lawer is xxx xxxcan, 1455 E.Thomas Street, Seattle, WA, 98155,
Fax: 206.555.6118.
Ever since September 1st, 2005 I've had a friend vist me off an on,
occationally taking a shower. The friend is Patinha Minha.
Since that time Lina has been trying to evict me... why, I've yet to understand.
She's taken me to court once already and raised my rent 10 percent recently
even though I pay two and even three times what adjacent renters are paying.
Lina is not trying to evict them, even though one guy has a girl there at night
and stores much of his stuff in my only exit, a hallway.
I program for a living, writing games that bankers play.
As of today, Feb 15th, I'm late in delivering code
and stand to lose my job if I don't finish in the coming weeks.
The stress from Lina’s hysteria, her over-involvement in
the day to day details of my once private life
and her Eviction actions have adversely effected my employment status.
As a poor writer, my average annual income is under 5 thousand dollars.
I'm programming day and night, working long hard hours,
and cannot afford to lose both my job and my residence at this time.
I've paid Lina on time ever since the start of 2001 -- Over 5 Years --
up until she refused my rent check at the start of this month.
I've paid her only with checks issued from my U.S. Bank account, 155505195247.
Ninty five percent of that time I had no formal lease, 19 out of 20 months.
I only signed the November 1st 2005 lease in
a vain attempt to placate Lina who continues to be hysterical
and overly involved in the day to day details of my once private life.
I did _Not_ sign the lease with the intent of
leaving at the end of January 2006, trusting that
I'd be protected by Seattle’s Just_Cause eviction laws.
I ask the Judge to award me two thousand dollars from the plaintiffs
to relocate me, along with an additional 12 percent per year,
accruing on the amount that is past due each month.
Signed, Jeff Relf, February 15th, 2006, in Seattle.
.
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: My formal _Answer_ to the eviction summons I was served yesterday. |
15 Feb 2006 09:35:53 AM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_15_8GHO@Cotse.NET...
Hi Folks, What follows is my formal _Answer_ to
the eviction summons that I was served yesterday.
Yet another segment in the saga that is your "life" played out over usenet
as if anyone cared.
While you are in an unfortunate situation I dont hold much hope for you. It
may have been better to write your letter in a less "whining" tone.
Never mind. You were telling us how easy it would be for you to move.
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: It's tit for tat... |
15 Feb 2006 10:40:03 AM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake,
Re: My formal _Answer_ to the eviction summons I was served yesterday.
You told me:
Yet another segment in the saga that is your "life"
played out over usenet as if anyone cared.
You cared enough to reply... not that I cared if you cared.
You added:
While you are in an unfortunate situation I dont hold much hope for you.
It may have been better to write your letter in a less "whining" tone.
Never mind. You were telling us how easy it would be for you to move.
It's tit for tat... I wouldn't give a rat's ***** about Lina, my landlord,
if she wasn't dragging me into court.
After over 5 years of on time payments to Lina,
I believe she can't just arbitrarily evict me
just because she doesn't like my homegirl.
.
|
|
|
| User: "CWatters" |
|
| Title: Re: It's tit for tat... |
15 Feb 2006 10:49:51 AM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_15_8L5C@Cotse.NET...
just because she doesn't like my homegirl.
Does your tennancy agreement allow other people to live there?
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: The renter to my immediate right... |
15 Feb 2006 11:00:59 AM |
|
|
Hi CWatters, Re: My formal answer to my eviction summons,
you asked me:
Does your tennancy agreement allow other people to live there ?
No, but Patinha is just my homegirl, she doesn't live here.
The renter to my immediate right pays half the rent that I do,
works less hours for more pay and regularly has a much younger
girl stay over night with him... he also partially blocks my only exit
by storing a lot of his stuff in the hallway.
Yet he is not being evicted,
nor has his rent been raised 10 percent recently.
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: The renter to my immediate right... |
15 Feb 2006 01:01:06 PM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_15_OpB9@Cotse.NET...
Hi CWatters, Re: My formal answer to my eviction summons,
you asked me:
Does your tennancy agreement allow other people to live there ?
No, but Patinha is just my homegirl, she doesn't live here.
Does she sleep over?
The renter to my immediate right pays half the rent that I do,
works less hours for more pay and regularly has a much younger
girl stay over night with him... he also partially blocks my only exit
by storing a lot of his stuff in the hallway.
Yet he is not being evicted,
nor has his rent been raised 10 percent recently.
Does your tenancy agreement say you will be treated the same as your
neighbours?
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: Evicting the most tenured tenants to avoid Setttle's relocation fees. |
15 Feb 2006 01:50:10 PM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake,
Speaking of Patinha, You asked me: Does she sleep over ?
And what if she does sometimes ? Other renters do the same thing.
I'm thinking my landlord is evicting her most tenured tenants to
to avoid Setttle's relocation fees -- two thousand dollars --.
You asked me:
Does your tenancy agreement say you will be treated
the same as your neighbours ?
It doubt it mentions that.
What matters much more is Seattle's Relocation and Just_Cause_Eviction laws
and whatever the Judge thinks of my landlord's histeria,
over-involvement in my private life, and vastly unequal treatment.
Her and her minions are unjustly harrassing me interfering with my employment.
So I'm asking the Judge to award me two thousand dollars from the plaintiffs
to relocate me, along with an additional 12 percent per year,
accruing monthly on any amount that might be past due.
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: Evicting the most tenured tenants to avoid Setttle's relocation fees. |
15 Feb 2006 02:38:20 PM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_15_D45z@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake,
Speaking of Patinha, You asked me: Does she sleep over ?
And what if she does sometimes ? Other renters do the same thing.
I'm thinking my landlord is evicting her most tenured tenants to
to avoid Setttle's relocation fees -- two thousand dollars --.
Well if she does and it puts in you violation of the tenancy agreement you
are out of the place.
Just because other people do it doesnt make a difference. Are you the type
of person who, when caught doing something wrong, tries to ensure as many
other people are dragged down with them or do you accept your just
punishment and move on?
I know nothing about Seattle's laws or relocation fees. (I care less than
you may think about them as well)
You asked me:
Does your tenancy agreement say you will be treated
the same as your neighbours ?
It doubt it mentions that.
So what point is there whining that your neighbours get better treatment?
What matters much more is Seattle's Relocation and Just_Cause_Eviction
laws
and whatever the Judge thinks of my landlord's histeria,
over-involvement in my private life, and vastly unequal treatment.
No, you are trying to create a conspiracy theory now.
What matters most is your rental agreement. If you are in violation then
suck it up and drive on. Accept you have broken the agreement you WILLINGLY
entered into and find a new place. Get rid of all the hangers on you
surround yourself with and act like an adult member of society.
Over involvement in your private life is "Relf_code" for she complains about
you having junkies staying over I assume.
Vastly unequal treatment - so what. Is there a law that says you must be
treated the same as your neighbours?
Her and her minions are unjustly harrassing me interfering with my
employment.
Nope. They are interfering with your accomodation. Your employment issues
are down to you.
So I'm asking the Judge to award me two thousand dollars from the
plaintiffs
to relocate me, along with an additional 12 percent per year,
accruing monthly on any amount that might be past due.
If you get it I will be amazed. When the decision is passed can you point me
to the link recording it please.
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: T_Wake, F_ck off you *****. |
15 Feb 2006 03:24:54 PM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake, You imagined:
Over involvement in your private life is Relf_Code for
she complains about you having junkies staying over I assume.
As I keep telling you... only Patinha is ever here,
-- other than that, Jill was here only once in the last few months --
and I think of Patinha as a noble person... not a _Junkie_.
She has stuggled with bulemia and drugs -- both mental issues --
but I've seen tiny victories over the last six months.
She's only 18 for crying out loud... the spoiled daughter of rich parents.
I mentioned that the illegal harassment is effecting my employment,
and you replied:
Nope. They are interfering with your accomodation.
Your employment issues are down to you.
What the ***** do you have for a heart, granite ? ! ***** you *****.
You want me to lose both my job and my residence ? !
What a fucking ***** you are.
You asked for a link to whatever the judge decides,
....what makes you think such a thing exists ?
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: T_Wake, F_ck off you *****. |
15 Feb 2006 04:23:32 PM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_15_x0pu@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake, You imagined:
Now, now Jeff. Don't get your knickers in a twist. You posted the details of
your life here so either get lost or learn to live with the commentary you
receive.
Over involvement in your private life is Relf_Code for
she complains about you having junkies staying over I assume.
As I keep telling you... only Patinha is ever here,
-- other than that, Jill was here only once in the last few months --
and I think of Patinha as a noble person... not a _Junkie_.
What you think of her isn't relevant. And you are talking about recently. If
your landlord has access to http://groups.google.com you are truly fucked.
She has stuggled with bulemia and drugs -- both mental issues --
Which will go a long way to endearing your landlord into letting her doss at
your place whenever she wants.
but I've seen tiny victories over the last six months.
She's only 18 for crying out loud... the spoiled daughter of rich parents.
Well, at her age there are other issues you should be worrying about rather
than accomodation.
I mentioned that the illegal harassment is effecting my employment,
and you replied:
Nope. They are interfering with your accomodation.
Your employment issues are down to you.
What the ***** do you have for a heart, granite ? !
I try.
***** you *****.
You are so polite.
You want me to lose both my job and my residence ? !
No, I dont care enough about you to want anything to happen to you. If it
stops your inanne diatrabes about your excuse for a life then it can only be
good.
What a fucking ***** you are.
So you say. If you dont like commentary on your posts, why post?
Notice, it doesnt actually change the situation here either. You can call me
anything you want but as far as your landlord (and I suspect the legal
system) is concerned your employment is a totally unrelated issue.
If you cant conduct yourself in such a manner that you dont violate the
terms of your rental agreement why should anyone else care about the rest of
your life?
You asked for a link to whatever the judge decides,
...what makes you think such a thing exists ?
I can but hope. I think it would be amusing to see how he reacts to your
requests.
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: Ya gotta pay the price if ya wanna be nice. |
15 Feb 2006 04:52:46 PM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake, You imagined:
...as far as your landlord -- and, I suspect, the legal system --
is concerned your employment is a totally unrelated issue.
I don't know what your world is like... but I doubt that lawmakers,
judges and enforcers are all that hell bent on putting people like me,
-- who work so hard for so little pay -- out of our homes and jobs.
No good dead goes unpunished, as they say.
Ya gotta pay the price if ya wanna be nice.
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: Ya gotta pay the price if ya wanna be nice. |
16 Feb 2006 01:24:03 PM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_15_8YIs@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake, You imagined:
...as far as your landlord -- and, I suspect, the legal system --
is concerned your employment is a totally unrelated issue.
I don't know what your world is like... but I doubt that lawmakers,
judges and enforcers are all that hell bent on putting people like me,
-- who work so hard for so little pay -- out of our homes and jobs.
Well it depends on how you are portrayed in court.
At the end of the day, the judge is not deciding over your employment
directly. The case is (and should be) based simply on your occupation of
your landlords appartment.
If the landlord is sensible and portrays you as running a crack house and
corrupting minors then there is a good chance you will end up in Jail :-)
As an example, if I were unable to pay my mortgage payments and my back
re-possessed my house off me then I cant whine about possibly losing my job
as a reason to keep the house. Cant you see how they arent directly related?
No good dead goes unpunished, as they say.
You should incorporate a grammar / spell checker into your newsreader. :-)
Ya gotta pay the price if ya wanna be nice.
Funnily enough I have heard people say this but (from experience) never
known it to be true.
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: Re: Ya gotta pay the price if ya wanna be nice. |
16 Feb 2006 01:58:56 PM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake, You told me:
If the landlord is sensible and portrays you as running a crack house and
corrupting minors then there is a good chance you will end up in Jail :-)
Never in my life have I abused drugs.
I don't brake any laws, as far as I know.
I'm in a crack house, that's for sure,
but I have absoultely nothing to do with it... nothing at all.
Patinha is 18, an adult, and she does no drugs around me.
I allow no visitors other than Patinha, and -- very infrequently -- Jill.
The young kids I had here before are gone now, thanks to Lina,
but, hopefully, they're better for having known me.
I wrote: Ya gotta pay the price if ya wanna be nice.
....and you replied:
Funnily enough I have heard people say this
but, from experience, never known it to be true.
Maybe you just haven't been as altruistic as me then... huh ?
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: Ya gotta pay the price if ya wanna be nice. |
16 Feb 2006 02:54:44 PM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_16_IJlc@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake, You told me:
If the landlord is sensible and portrays you as running a crack house and
corrupting minors then there is a good chance you will end up in Jail :-)
Never in my life have I abused drugs.
Did I say you did? By the way, don't you think of nicotine as a drug?
I don't brake any laws, as far as I know.
Nice disclaimer at the end there. Do you allow people under the legal age to
drink in your house (for example)?
I'm in a crack house, that's for sure,
but I have absoultely nothing to do with it... nothing at all.
Patinha is 18, an adult, and she does no drugs around me.
"Around you" is a cop out.
I allow no visitors other than Patinha, and -- very infrequently -- Jill.
The young kids I had here before are gone now, thanks to Lina,
No wonder she wants you out. She has got rid of the hangers on, and now
wants the "magnet" out.
but, hopefully, they're better for having known me.
Debatable but not the point here.
I wrote: Ya gotta pay the price if ya wanna be nice.
...and you replied:
Funnily enough I have heard people say this
but, from experience, never known it to be true.
Maybe you just haven't been as altruistic as me then... huh ?
Depends on your world view. Also, I never meant myself. People I know who
are very altruistic in pretty much any possible sense never seen to have to
"pay the price" for it in the sense you imply.
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: Patinha injects her coffee, as they say. |
16 Feb 2006 06:55:51 PM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake, you asked me:
Do you allow people under the legal age to drink in your house for example ?
I have done that before, sort of, Ethen had half a beer here once.
Patinha has never drunk alcohol in my presence... speed is her drug.
She injects her coffee, as they say. But she doesn't do that around me.
She had a minor relapse recently... speed makes her very crazy.
You concluded:
People I know who are very altruistic in pretty much any possible sense
never seen to have to "pay the price" for it in the sense you imply.
That doesn't sound very altruistic to me. The word means:
Unselfish concern for the welfare of others; selflessness.
Dictionary.COM/search?q=altruistic
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: Patinha injects her coffee, as they say. |
16 Feb 2006 07:15:36 PM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_16_uzxq@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake, you asked me:
Do you allow people under the legal age to drink in your house for
example ?
I have done that before, sort of, Ethen had half a beer here once.
Patinha has never drunk alcohol in my presence... speed is her drug.
She injects her coffee, as they say. But she doesn't do that around me.
Good. That will stand you well in court.
She had a minor relapse recently... speed makes her very crazy.
Report her to the police. Be selfless and suffer her hatred for you to do
something better in the long run.
You concluded:
People I know who are very altruistic in pretty much any possible sense
never seen to have to "pay the price" for it in the sense you imply.
That doesn't sound very altruistic to me. The word means:
Unselfish concern for the welfare of others; selflessness.
Dictionary.COM/search?q=altruistic
What part of what I said doesn't match the description?
You assume selflessness demands suffering then? People who are selfless do
not suffer in their actions, they are doing it because they feel it is right
and in turn are made joyful by their ability to serve.
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: True altruism expects nothing in return. |
16 Feb 2006 07:30:20 PM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake, Re: Patinha's minor relapse with meth, You told me:
Report her to the police. Be selfless and suffer her hatred for you to do
something better in the long run.
She'd get much, much worse if I did that,
and you, the tax payer, would pay endlessly for that.
Every dime I spend on her is many dollars you won't be paying.
You concluded:
People who are selfless do not suffer in their actions,
they are doing it because they feel it is right
and in turn are made joyful by their ability to serve.
True altruism expects nothing in return, that is my firm belief.
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: True altruism expects nothing in return. |
17 Feb 2006 08:11:52 AM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_16_5V9y@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake, Re: Patinha's minor relapse with meth, You told me:
Report her to the police. Be selfless and suffer her hatred for you to do
something better in the long run.
She'd get much, much worse if I did that,
No, that is just what you think.
and you, the tax payer, would pay endlessly for that.
Every dime I spend on her is many dollars you won't be paying.
So what. I dont object to my tax money being spent on social issues.
You concluded:
People who are selfless do not suffer in their actions,
they are doing it because they feel it is right
and in turn are made joyful by their ability to serve.
True altruism expects nothing in return, that is my firm belief.
Who said they "expected" anything in return. You expect altruism to suffer.
That is still an expectation.
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: Punishments are exactly what I expect an altruist to get. |
17 Feb 2006 11:43:41 AM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake, You told me:
You expect altruists to suffer. That is still an expectation.
That's just been my experience.
When I said expectations, I meant rewards, not punishments.
In fact, punishments are exactly what I expect an altruist to get.
Patinha has already been in adult jail,
and has spent years confined to private institutions.
I don't think any of that helped her, in fact I think it really scarred her.
Other than sleep, she wasn't allowed to sit for months on end.
If she did, her partner would sit on her, blocking her breathing.
I could go on and on about what they did to her.
What makes you think more of the same would change anything ?
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: Punishments are exactly what I expect an altruist to get. |
17 Feb 2006 12:54:17 PM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_17_NfSH@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake, You told me:
You expect altruists to suffer. That is still an expectation.
That's just been my experience.
When I said expectations, I meant rewards, not punishments.
Then you should have said rewards not expectations.
In fact, punishments are exactly what I expect an altruist to get.
That is in your, limited, experience. And to an extent is used by yourself
to rationalise what you see as a shitty deal the world has given you.
In my experience altruists are the same as every one else - some get good
things happen to them others dont.
Patinha has already been in adult jail,
and has spent years confined to private institutions.
I don't think any of that helped her, in fact I think it really scarred
her.
Other than sleep, she wasn't allowed to sit for months on end.
If she did, her partner would sit on her, blocking her breathing.
I could go on and on about what they did to her.
Well, I suspect this is in violation of what ever laws the US has on
treatment of prisoners. You should report this.
What makes you think more of the same would change anything ?
What makes you think that you are doing any long term good for her? Only
your ego and odd belief that you must be "punished" for doing good things.
(Note, this is something we have debated before and I see no need to reopen
the conversation here)
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: Acquiring and maintaining a place of her own. |
20 Feb 2006 12:34:26 PM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake, Speaking of how I've suffered for my Patinha, You told me:
What makes you think that you are doing any long term good for her ?
Only your ego and odd belief that
you must be "punished" for doing good things.
When she's with others she does drugs that effect not only her health
but also the wellbeing of those around her.
When she's with me she eats a lot more, does much less drugs and stealing,
sleeps more and has a healthier, better time.
She gets _Gentle_ guidance from me about how to live a healthier life.
I tell her that she should empathize more with people, treat them kinder,
and that it's the drugs that are wearing down her immune system,
....to say nothing of her hepatic, cardiovascular and nervous systems.
I also tell her that getting a job, as boring as that sounds,
is her best chance at acquiring and maintaining a place of her own.
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: Acquiring and maintaining a place of her own. |
20 Feb 2006 03:19:25 PM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_20_decb@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake, Speaking of how I've suffered for my Patinha, You told me:
I've told you lots of things. Can we get back on to the subject of physics
please?
What makes you think that you are doing any long term good for her ?
Only your ego and odd belief that
you must be "punished" for doing good things.
When she's with others she does drugs that effect not only her health
but also the wellbeing of those around her.
Very true. Is being with you stopping her associating with these people? Or
are you simply providing just enough of a crutch that she can remain in a
state of semi-life. Never quite going low enough to get professional help,
yet never getting out of the scene?
When she's with me she eats a lot more, does much less drugs and stealing,
Much less != none.
sleeps more and has a healthier, better time.
She gets _Gentle_ guidance from me about how to live a healthier life.
Gentle?
I tell her that she should empathize more with people, treat them kinder,
and that it's the drugs that are wearing down her immune system,
...to say nothing of her hepatic, cardiovascular and nervous systems.
Well..... we all know where you stand on this issue.
I also tell her that getting a job, as boring as that sounds,
is her best chance at acquiring and maintaining a place of her own.
Remove best and insert only.
However, while she has you to lean on she has no reason to do that.
Most importantly.... does this have anything to do with physics?
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: Drug abuse is the issue. Petroleum abuse, food abuse... not use. |
21 Feb 2006 12:13:05 AM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake, If Physics is all you want to read about, as you claimed,
then why don't you fucking do that and leave me alone ?
Do you have some problem finding posts on the subject ? You retard.
I said Patinha is happier and healthier when she's around me,
and you asked:
Is being with you stopping her associating with these people ?
She broke her leash, last I checked.
I'm just another one of her opions... her favorite, apparently.
Others are not as good of an influence on her, trust me on that one.
I said Patinha does much less drugs and stealing when she's around me,
and you replied: Much less != none.
Better is better... what can I say. Perfection is the enemy of the good.
Drug abuse is the issue. Petroleum abuse, food abuse... not use.
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: Drug abuse is the issue. Petroleum abuse, food abuse... not use. |
21 Feb 2006 02:32:29 PM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_20_nq7f@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake, If Physics is all you want to read about, as you claimed,
then why don't you fucking do that and leave me alone ?
Do you have some problem finding posts on the subject ? You retard.
Wow. Poor Jeff. Is the lithium wearing off? Do you need to speak to your
doctor again?
Lets face it, you have to avoid talking about physics because you get mired
in a pit of nonsense.
I said Patinha is happier and healthier when she's around me,
and you asked:
Is being with you stopping her associating with these people ?
She broke her leash, last I checked.
So her being with you is, simply, giving her enough suppor that her self
destructive lifestyle will continue longer. That is really good of you Jeff.
I'm just another one of her opions... her favorite, apparently.
Others are not as good of an influence on her, trust me on that one.
I am sure that is true.
I said Patinha does much less drugs and stealing when she's around me,
and you replied: Much less != none.
Better is better... what can I say.
So you are not curing her, you are keeping her on a low enough level of
abuse that she can drag out her problem longer. Ok.
Perfection is the enemy of the good.
Twee little sayings mean nothing in the real world.
Drug abuse is the issue. Petroleum abuse, food abuse... not use.
Well, how do you define the difference between use and abuse when it comes
to a substance? Is she taking drugs to treat a condition and under medical
supervision?
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=E2=84=9Eelf?=" |
|
| Title: I'm God's prisoner, and God to my prisoners. |
22 Feb 2006 09:17:36 AM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake, You asked:
How do you define the difference between use and abuse
when it comes to a substance ?
Is she taking drugs to treat a condition and under medical supervision ?
Controlling one's appetites is a stuggle, of course.
But she's been doing real well... so long as she hangs mostly with me.
She neither needs nor takes dotor-prescribed medications... thank God.
Speaking of God... I'm God's prisoner, and God to my prisoners.
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: I'm God's prisoner, and God to my prisoners. |
22 Feb 2006 12:06:18 PM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_22_vcwY@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake, You asked:
How do you define the difference between use and abuse
when it comes to a substance ?
Is she taking drugs to treat a condition and under medical supervision ?
Controlling one's appetites is a stuggle, of course.
I am sure.
But she's been doing real well... so long as she hangs mostly with me.
Glad to hear it.
She neither needs nor takes dotor-prescribed medications... thank God.
So she only takes non-prescribed ones?
Speaking of God... I'm God's prisoner, and God to my prisoners.
Pseudo-metaphysical nonsense.
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=D0=AFelf?=" |
|
| Title: Nietzsche's failed attempt to find God and meaning in life. |
23 Feb 2006 11:36:25 AM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake, I told you: I'm God's prisoner, and God to my prisoners.
and, at other times: All meaning is local, here and now, the rest is inane.
and you replied: Pseudo-metaphysical nonsense.
Really ? Haven't you never heard of
Nietzsche's failed attempt to find God and meaning in life ?
Well... I found it.
.
|
|
|
| User: "T Wake" |
|
| Title: Re: Nietzsche's failed attempt to find God and meaning in life. |
24 Feb 2006 10:31:30 AM |
|
|
"Jeff_?elf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_23_XVZF@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake, I told you: I'm God's prisoner, and God to my prisoners.
and, at other times: All meaning is local, here and now, the rest is
inane.
and you replied: -metaphysical nonsense.
Really ? Haven't you never heard of
Nietzsche's failed attempt to find God and meaning in life ?
Well... I found it.
Whatever.
Still pseudo-metaphysical nonsense.
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=D0=AFelf?=" |
|
| Title: In this sad game of life we're playing, everyone loses in the end. |
24 Feb 2006 07:17:45 PM |
|
|
Hi T_Wake, I told you:
I'm God's prisoner, and God to my prisoners.
All meaning is local, here and now, the rest is inane.
Have you never heard of Nietzsche's failed attempt
to find God and meaning in life ? Well... I found it.
And you again replied: Whatever. Still pseudo-metaphysical nonsense.
You, more than most, need to understand my truisms.
They might help you shed your many delusions of grandeur.
In this sad game of life we're playing, everyone loses in the end.
.
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: In this sad game of life we're playing, everyone loses in the end. |
24 Feb 2006 09:04:34 PM |
|
|
"Jeff_=D0=AFelf" <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Feb_24_am1a@Cotse.NET...
Hi T_Wake, I told you:
I'm God's prisoner, and God to my prisoners.
All meaning is local, here and now, the rest is inane.
Have you never heard of Nietzsche's failed attempt
to find God and meaning in life ? Well... I found it.
And you again replied: Whatever. Still pseudo-metaphysical nonsense.
You, more than most, need to understand my truisms.
They might help you shed your many delusions of grandeur.
In this sad game of life we're playing, everyone loses in the end.
That depends upon your definition of "losing".
If you believe in an afterlife,
and believe that you are punished or rewarded based on your performance
in this life, then all you have to do is lead a good life.
On the other hand, if you think that death is like a long sleep,
what could be better than a long sleep?
The best measure of winning and losing
is the sum total of pleasure minus the sum total of pain
for all peoples over all times.
I say all peoples, rather than each person,
because if each person acted to optimize this quantity for themselves,
then the world would really be hell, and we would all be losers.
In other words, be happy, try to make others happy,
and work to make the selfish people change,
and you and the world will be better for it.
I suggest that you know this,
as your posts indicate that you try to make
the people around you happy,
but that you are depressed and unhappy overall,
because you tried to make your wife happy,
and were unable to, and your family was broken up.
You can't change the past,
they best you can do,
is start optimizing pleasure and minimizing pain starting NOW,
and forget the negatives in the past,
except as an understanding of how to avoid pain.
That'll be 2 cents please.
--
Tom Potter
http://no-turtles.com
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
.
|
|
|
| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=5F=D0=AFelf?=" |
|
| Title: Fuel junkies. |
24 Feb 2006 10:51:49 PM |
|
|
Hi Tom_Potter, As far as I can determine it,
my ex left me for a more _Optimistic_ mam who would give her more kids.
I neither belittle nor bemoan her choice... she was who she was.
I'm not interested in women anymore,
I've got too many other things on my plate.
You will not live after you die, Tom, nor will you sleep.
Your domain -- both spatially and temporally -- just isn't that big.
Them's the facts, and you'd do well to remember them.
This is a good chant for you, I maintain, to keep you more grounded:
I'm God's prisoner, and God to my prisoners.
All meaning is local, here and now, the rest is inane.
Selfless altruism, expecting nothing but losses,
is a good idea in my opinion... because people remember it.
Excessive optimism, excessive consumption of fuel, money, drugs and food
are nothing to boast about... control is the goal, the ever fleeting mirage.
In Iraq and on the highways, fuel junkies kill and are killed
far more then the penniless beggars on the streets, as pitiful as they are.
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
Re: Global Warming is So Yesterday
Sucking Black ***** is a Sport for Wiggers, yesterday, it wastes a yogi too heavy in back of her stale hall, Gay Firefighter.
BBC Horizon yesterday
Re: Marxist Yesterday - "Environmentalist" Today!
Re: Pentagon 9/11 Fraud was Re: No Second Engine at the Pentagon was Re: The Ultimate Pentagon 9/11 Question Andy Carol couldn't answer. was Re: Flight 175 WAS a FUEL TANKER, for REAL. This is not a "theory".
Re: Fantastic Flying 757 Engine was Re: The Ultimate Pentagon 9/11 Question Andy Carol couldn't answer. was Re: Flight 175 WAS a FUEL TANKER, for REAL. This is not a "theory".
Please answer my rational question [was Re: AM radio: astronomically-high frequency modulator signal present on an astronomically-low frequency carrier signal]
Re: Pentagon 9/11 Fraud was Re: No Second Engine at the Pentagon was Re: The Ultimate Pentagon 9/11 Question Andy Carol couldn't answer. was Re: Flight 175 WAS a FUEL TANKER, for REAL. This is not a "theory".
| Re: Pentagon 9/11 Fraud was Re: No Second Engine at the Pentagon was Re: The Ultimate Pentagon 9/11 Question Andy Carol couldn't answer. was Re: Flight 175 WAS a FUEL TANKER, for REAL. This is not a "theory".
Re: The Ultimate Pentagon 9/11 Question Andy Carol couldn't answer. was Re: Flight 175 WAS a FUEL TANKER, for REAL. This is not a "theory".
Re: Pentagon 9/11 Fraud was Re: No Second Engine at the Pentagon was Re: The Ultimate Pentagon 9/11 Question Andy Carol couldn't answer. was Re: Flight 175 WAS a FUEL TANKER, for REAL. This is not a "theory".
Please answer my question [was Re: AM radio: astronomically-high frequency modulator signal present on an astronomically-low frequency carrier signal]
The answer is none, and 100 years later there is still "none", in fact it was, and is, a ridiculous idea eh!......................
Re: Here's a 4 part question, but YOU only have to answer 1 part
Why do Relativists suffer from 'Answer-phobia'?
|
|
|
