In article <1179933327.512556.190400@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 23, 4:01 am, Mitchell Jones <mjo...@21cenlogic.com> wrote:

In article <1179582619.764899.301...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

***{All faith-based belief systems are sickening, and have cruel and
horrific consequences. That includes Holocaust revisionism, Catholicism,
environmentalism, Nazism, Communism, Orthodox Judaism, Islamic
fundamentalism, and lots of other things. Get yourself a film of a
pubescent female of Moslem parents, screaming in agony as her external
genitalia are slashed off with a broken coke bottle, in some *****
backwater village, or a film of a child dying of malaria that DDT could
have prevented, if you want to see what "sickening" really means.
--MJ}***

It is interesting to see that the world is beginning to wise up
to the agenda and methods of the War-for-Profit Gang,
and folks are beginning to see War-for-Profit Instigators
like Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle for what they are,
members of a greedy, immoral, racist, bigoted, criminal
gang.

***{Certainly there is a "war-for-profit gang," but it isn't composed
exclusively, or even mostly, of Jews. Any person who gets a contract due
to a war, whether it be to supply arms, mercenaries, security services,
aircraft, construction equipment, vehicle maintenance, munitions, or
anything else, profits from that war. One could write down a long list
of such persons, and some of the members would be Jews. Moreover, at the
upper levels, a higher percentage would be Jews than at lower levels, at
least where western companies were concerned. But that is due to the
high average intelligence of Jews, not to some sort of preference by
Jews to make money off of war. One could say the same thing about the
"jewelry-for-profit gang," the "apartments-for-profit gang," the
"books-for-profit gang," the "hotel-rooms-for-profit gang," the
"acting-for-profit gang," and on and on. In the West, Jews are over
represented in the upper echelons of lots of areas of profit-making
activity, rather than merely in those that earn profits from war, and
the reason is the same in all cases: above-average intelligence is
useful to those who would make above-average profits.

I would also note that it isn't just in the area of profit making that
disproportionate numbers of Jews are to be found. Many people, including
many Jews, pursue goals that are not financially remuniative, and to the
extent that those other things require intelligence, Jews are over
represented there as well. For example, the proportion of Jewish chess
masters, mathematicians, artists, writers, etc., is also much higher
than the proportion of Jews in the population, despite the fact that
such people for the most part make very little money.

Bottom line: it is those who focus on Jewish misdeeds while ignoring the
same sorts of misdeeds when perpetrated by non-Jews, who are members of
an "immoral, racist, bigoted criminal gang"--a gang known to discerning
members of society as antisemites.

--Mitchell Jones}***

As can be seen by recent news reports,
Wolfowitz lost his cushy, power job at the World Bank
because he was "fighting poverty" by making sure that
he and his girl friend enjoyed the good life,
at the expense of the poor folks on the planet.

***{What is your point? Are you saying that it is only, or mostly,
Jewish men who allow the little head to tell the big head what to do?
Why are you listing only examples of Jewish misbehavior in this little
diatribe of yours, when you must know full well that the same sorts of
misbehaviors are routinely engaged in by non-Jews? --MJ}***

It is also encouraging to see that
the War-for-Profit Gang Holocaust scam

***{Yes, there have been instances where Jewish plaintiffs went to court
in an attempt to recover assets to which they knew they were not
entitled. Likewise, there have been instances in which non-Jewish
plaintiffs went to court in an attempt to recover assets to which they
knew they were not entitled. The question is, why are you fixated on
instances of the former sort, while pointedly ignoring the latter?
--MJ}***

did not work on Elizabeth Taylor,
and she was able to keep the Van Gogh painting,
that she bought in 1963 from a Jew, Alfred Wolf.

***{If you are saying that false Holocaust related claims are frequently
upheld in court, due to the political influence of Jewish groups, then I
would probably agree. But, again, false environmentalist claims are also
frequently upheld in court, due to the political influence of
environmental groups; and false claims of rape are frequently upheld in
court, due to the political influence of women's groups; and false
claims of child molestation are frequently upheld in court due to the
political influence of fundamentalist Christians; and so on. Therefore,
again, I ask: why are you focusing exclusively on the subset of false
claims that involve Jews? Why not see the problem in its generalized,
and correct, aspect--to wit: as a flaw in the American system of
jurisprudence, due to the politicization of our courts--rather than
focusing narrowly on instances where the misbehavior involves Jews?
--MJ}***

Most of the Holocaust scams involve attacks
on lightly defended assets, and on taking advantage of
gaps in ownership audit trials that occur naturally,
particularly in times of war.

***{Most of the successful non-Holocaust related courtroom scams,
including those perpetrated by non-Jews, also involve attacks on lightly
defended assets, and on taking advantage of gaps in ownership audit
trails. Do you think courtroom scams are likely to succeed when the
attack is made against heavily defended assets for which there are no
gaps in the chain of ownership? And, again, why do you keep talking
narrowly in terms of Jewish misbehavior, rather than in the generalized
terms that are required to see the problem for what it really is?
--MJ}***

When the War-for-Profit Gang was instigating the
Class Wars of the 1900's, most nations yielded to
the instigators in order to avoid too much conflict
in society,

***{Politicized courts are influenced by external pressure groups,
whether those groups are Jewish or not. Lots of environmentalist scams,
for example, succeeded in court precisely because the judges were
political appointees with aspirations for higher office. Rather than
have their careers derailed by pissing off politically powerful groups,
they handed down decisions that were not justified by the facts.
Similarly, lots of false child molestation claims have led to the
incarceration of innocent men and women, due to the political influence
of fundamentalist Christians. Likewise, lots of false rape claims have
led to the incarceration of innocent defendants, due to the influence of
women's groups. And on and on it goes. Yet you ignore these sorts of
miscarriages of justice when they do not involve Jews, despite their
being OBVIOUSLY due to the same cause, and rant on exclusively about
those which involve the political influence of Jews. But why? --MJ}***

but the German people, who are probably
the most intelligent, most moral, most productive folks on the planet,
recognized that a greedy, power-mad. immoral gang
was instigating the Class Wars for power and riches,
and they took an aggressive stand against the Class War Instigators.

***{That sounds like a press release from the German Propaganda
Ministry, circa 1940 or so. The "aggressive stand against the Class War
Instigators," of course, is Nazi codewords for "vandalize Jewish
businesses," "beat up Jews in the streets," "put the Jews in
concentration camps," and "exterminate the Jews." Since you speak
approvingly of such measures, I can only assume you believe they were
justified. --MJ}***

The German economy boomed,
while the economies of America and England,
who catered to the Class War Instigators,
collapsed into deep depressions

***{The truth is that the economies of England, America, and Germany
were all mired in depression until Hitler began gearing up for war.
Result: as the German army, navy, air force, armaments industries, and
secret police (the SS) expanded, unemployment in Germany disappeared,
and "the German economy boomed." The English and Americans, on the other
hand, did not want war. Result: they refused to expand their armies,
navies, air forces, and armaments industries, refused to create secret
police forces, and continued to negotiate for peace, while Hitler
invaded one country after another, and placed German dissidents and Jews
in concentration camps operated by the SS. Result: unemployment remained
high in America and England, and their economies remained depressed,
until first England, and finally America, became fed up with Hitler's
outrages, declared war, and began to build up their own forces. At that
point the English and American economies began to "boom" as well.

Bottom line: Hitler's "boom" resulted from a policy of aggressive
militarism in international relations, backed up by a massive expansion
of the German military and secret police, and resulted in the deaths of
tens of millions, in Germany and elsewhere.

Not much to brag about, as far as I can see.

--Mitchell Jones}***

As the German people applied pressure to the
Class War Terrorists and their Supporters

***{The "German People" means Hitler, his goons, and the fools who
supported them. "Pressure" means public beatings, extortion,
vandalization of property (e.g., Krystallnacht), confiscation of
business assets, and internment in death camps. "Class War Terrorists
and their Supporters" means "Jews, political dissidents, and anyone else
who didn't fit in." --MJ}***

,
to shape up or ship out

***{Actually, the choice was to flee or die. Early on, while Hitler
still feared world public opinion, the impression was given that it
might be sufficient for Jews to assimilate into the population and
become more like average Germans, and many Jews made the mistake of
believing that. Result: they joined various Christian sects, disavowed
their Jewishness, gave lip service to the Nazis, etc. However, in the
long run none of that did them any good, because with the passage of
time Hitler's pursuit of Jews became focused exclusively on heredity.
Behavior, from that point forward, did not matter. All that mattered was
whether you possessed a bit of Jewish blood. If you did, you were a
mischling, and off to the death camps you went, whether you had
misbehaved or not, whether you believed in the Jewish religion or not,
and, indeed, whether you had known that you were partially of Jewish
descent or not. --MJ}***

many of the Terrorists and their Supporters,
sold some of their belongings, migrated to other nations

***{As already noted, the choice actually offered to Jews by Hitler was
simply to get out or die. Result: when Jewish property was transferred
to German owners by Jews who were fleeing the country, the transactions
were not sales, but extortion, and the prices received were less than
the price a German would have received if he had been the seller of the
same property. How much less was the measure of the extent of the
extortion, and as it became harder and harder for Jews to escape, the
loss of value increased. For Jews who left near the end, just before the
exits slammed shut, the prices they received were a trivial
fraction--cents on the dollar--compared to what the goods were actually
worth. And after escape became essentially impossible, the Jews who
remained were reduced to waiting their turn to be taken off to the death
camps, and when that eventually happened their worldly goods were simply
seized without payment. Thus all of the Jewish property in Germany was
ultimately transferred to German owners under conditions that were
extortion at best and outright armed robbery at worst. --MJ}***

and used their media presence,
and their lobbies to buy politicians,
and manipulate the masses to get America and England,
to join with Russia, which was controlled by the Class Wars
Instigators, to wage war on the German people.

***{I repeat: Hitler set Germany onto the path of a massive military
buildup and invaded several countries, while the allies negotiated to
avoid war. Those are simply facts. Hitler was the aggressor in World War
II, not England, France, or the U.S. It is ludicrous to blame the
eventual declarations of war by England and the U.S. on lobbying by
Jews, when theirs was merely one voice among many clamoring for that
outcome, by the time it actually happened. --MJ}***

The Gang not only profited from war profiteering,
but after Germany was defeated,
they rushed in and raped Germany,

***{War is not a pretty business, and what happens in an occupied
country after it has lost a war is not pretty, either. Much is done,
both during a war and after, that should not be done, and all of the
participating ethnic and religious groups share in the misdeeds. Yet,
again, only the misdeeds of Jews are mentioned by you. Why do you
suppose that is? --MJ}***

and they continued to rape the German people
by demanding billions of dollars in reparations,

***{In cases where the evidence indicated that damages were owed to
Jews, it seems only reasonable that they ought to be paid. --MJ}***

and then they raped again by claiming that the
assets they sold were actually stolen from them,

***{Assets sold at pennies on the dollar by a person who has a gun to
his head do not constitute valid transactions. No sale is voluntary if
one of the parties is acting under duress. --MJ}***

and like the Elizabeth Taylor case,
they tried (And usually succeeded.)
to profit three times,

first by the original sale (Jew #1),
then by channeling items through another Jew (Jew #2),
and then by using bought politicians to
pass friendly laws, and using friendly courts (Frequently Jew #n)
to make present day owners (Goyim #1) of the most valuable items
(Where a good ownership audit trail did not exist.)
turn over the items to the families of Jew #1 (Jew #3).

***{Stolen goods ought to be returned to their rightful owners or to
their heirs. Deciding on the basis of the evidence whether that is
justified in a particular case is the business of the courts. If courts
consistently reach incorrect decisions not supported by the facts, the
system of jurisprudence is flawed, and ought to be criticized and
modified to eliminate the flaws.

On the other hand, things go off track when the plaintiffs who take
advantage of the flaws in the courts are what is criticized, because it
serves no purpose to punish people who play within the rules. If
injustice is sometimes the result when people play within the rules, the
solution is obvious: tweak the rules in ways that eliminate the flaws.

Things go even further off track when a critic directs his objections
not against the weaknesses in the courts, and not against plaintiffs who
take advantage of weaknesses in the courts, but rather at some
particular racial or ethnic minority among such plaintiffs. Such
arguments produce nothing of benefit to anyone. All that they reveal are
the character flaws of the person making them.

--Mitchell Jones}***

It is interesting to see that the War-for-Profit Gang used the same
scam in America that they used in Germany,
in instigating and profiting from the Urban Rebellion
in America during the 1960's.

***{What is interesting is that if a thousand people commit a misdeed,
none will be seen by you but the Jews among them. No blacks, by your way
of thinking, were involved in instigating the aforesaid urban rebellion,
nor any browns, nor any non-Jewish whites. Nobody but Jews ever
instigate anything that is wrong, and nobody but Jews ever profit from
anything that is wrong, according to you. --MJ}***

In the 1960's, the War-for-Profit Gang
instigated conflict between American Blacks and Whites,
encouraged Blacks to riot and make demands on society,
and began profiting from what was called "Blockbusting".

***{Only Jews, again, according to you. --MJ}***

When Blacks began moving into Jewish neighborhoods,
and began rioting, many Jews burned their
own businesses and houses in order to collect insurance,
and they moved on into other neighborhoods.

***{No Italians ever did that. Nor any Irishmen. Nor any persons of
Asian descent. Nor any non-Jewish whites. According to you. Nobody but
Jews ever commit any misdeeds. --MJ}***

Poor, honest Goyim would never think about
torching their homes and moving out

***{That's right. Non-Jews are pure as the driven snow. There are no
non-Jewish murderers, arsonists, thieves, rapists, burglars, embezzlers,
or any other criminals of any sort whatsoever. Just Jews, according to
you. --MJ}***

so they stayed while their neighborhood
turned into a slum, and their home lost all its' value.

***{No Jew every stayed in his neighborhood while blacks moved in,
turned it into a slum, and destroyed property values. Instead, Jews
always burned down their own homes, collected the insurance money, and
moved elsewhere. According to you. --MJ}***

The Jews profited from insurance,
from buying suburban homes on the cheap,
before the mass movement to the suburbs,
and from selling suburban property at inflated prices
to the folks who moved out of the slums later.

During their mass migration out of Germany,
on November 9, 1938 Jews staged a massive scam
known as Kristallnacht or "The Night of Broken Glass",
where thousands of Jews torched their own businesses
and tried to make massive insurance claims on the torching.

***{That is quite enough. You are certifiably insane. Any person who
lacks the intelligence to see through such a claim deserves to believe
it, and I'm not going to spend any more time reading or analyzing your
ravings, on this subject or any other. I have better things to do with
my time. --MJ}***

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On May 20, 12:35 am, The_Man <me_so_hornee...@yahoo.com> wrote:

kosher methods are designed to MINIMIZE the pain to animals, or didn't
you know that?

The barbaric Kosher ritual requires purification of the animal by
draining its blood via single slit across the throat.

Yeah, wow. That means it is ok to kill Jews in gas chambers then doesn't it.

Do you think a bolt through the head is "humane?"