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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Archimedes Plutonium"
Date: 16 Apr 2005 01:21:11 AM
Object: Nested mathematical forms of Maxwell theory and Unification of Forces
Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:16:14 -0500 Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
(snipped)


So if we add a additional term to the Maxwell Equations, a Cosmic
Coulomb term that replaces the force of gravity, then this Revised
Maxwell theory is so different from the old Maxwell theory that it is
so
unique as to be underivable from any other set of axioms.

What I was wondering about before I went to sleep was whether such a
Revised Maxwell Equations that contained a term for a Cosmic Coulomb
replacing gravity predicted a deciding experiment. Predicted a
phenomenon that could only be explained by a additional term to the
Maxwell theory. About the only things that came to mind was the
Meissner
Effect of how it holds up a magnet opposed to gravity so in a Cosmic
Coulomb there should be microMeissner Effects that the old Maxwell
theory does not encompass. And the other area is superfluidity in that

superfluid helium contradicts gravity. So that a Cosmic Coulomb force
replacing gravity should be apparent in a MicroMeissner Effect and in
a
Superfluid Helium test experiment.



So if we add a Cosmic Coulomb term to the old Maxwell Equations then
those equations would be having a Nested Mathematical Form. By nested
I
mean that a Coulomb force would encapsulate the Faraday Law;
encapsulate
the Ampere Law and encapsulate the Gauss's laws where even the Coulomb

law itself has a Cosmic Coulomb superstructure. This nested feature
would deny any axiom set to ever derive the Maxwell theory. This
nested
feature would make the Maxwell Equations a unique set of axioms
underivable by any other axioms.

In the Atom Totality theory another one of these Nested mathematics
arises. The Universe is one big atom and the stuff inside this big atom
are simply more atoms. So the whole is the same as its pieces. There
cannot be a mathematical formula or equation to capture this whole is a
part and parts are the whole.
Many of us believe in a Unification of the Forces of Physics. So in the
unification all the forces become versions of one force. I say it is the
Coulomb force. So that StrongNuclear and WeakNuclear are Coulomb. And
gravity is a Coulomb force. Here again we have a example of parts making
a whole and the whole is its part. Not as profound as the Atom Totality
whole and parts but nonetheless an example.
Finally I give a third example of this Nested mathematical form which
cannot be made into equations. We cannot write an equation for pi since
it is transcendental. So can we say that an Atom Totality is
mathematically transcendental since you cannot write an equation where
parts combine to be the whole yet the whole is one of its parts? No, of
course not.
Similarly, can we write a equation for the Unification of Forces as one
Coulomb force. Of course not.
Now onto the exciting challenge of the Maxwell theory or Maxwell
Equations. They were considered old and Classical Physics with the
intonation or insinuation or depreciation or low tone mocking that the
Maxwell Equations were on the verge of extinction just as Newtonian
Mechanics was extincted by Quantum Mechanics, or to be more fair that
the Newtonian Mechanics was made an algorithm of first approximation of
physics.
But, now, consider what happens when we call the force of gravity a
fiction force and replace it with a Cosmic Coulomb force. So that the 94
protons of the Atom Totality bend space and the mass of the observable
universe is the bits and pieces of the last 6 electrons (the galaxies
are dots of the electron dot cloud). So we have no need of gravity for a
Cosmic Coulomb force is the force of gravity.
All of a sudden we have to add another term to the Maxwell Equations of
a Cosmic Coulomb force. And thereby elevating the Maxwell theory into
another one of those Nested math forms that math equations cannot
capture the physics. To have transcendentalized the Maxwell Equations.
To have elevated the Maxwell theory so that it is no longer Classical
Physics but the very heart of physics. And that no program of Feynman or
Landau and Lifschitz are able to derive from other axioms.
So that when you add a term of a Cosmic Coulomb to the existing Maxwell
Equations is like trying to form a equation of the Universe where "1
atom whole has many atoms inside itself to compose the whole". So we
transcendentalize the Maxwell theory by adding a term of a Cosmic
Coulomb.
So I see three of these patterns of a Nested mathematics. I see it in
the Atom Totality theory where the whole is 1 atom which is composed of
many atoms inside itself. And with the Unification of Forces of Physics
in that all the forces are really just a version of the Coulomb force.
And finally with the Maxwell theory of injecting a Cosmic Coulomb force
when one of its laws is already the Coulomb force creates another Nested
mathematics.
So logically this sounds correct. Because if the Atom Totality is true,
then we should expect to see this Nested pattern elsewhere. We should
see it in a Unification of Forces and finally we should see it in
Physics most praised set of axioms which are the Maxwell Equations.
Truth in physics ends up with a pattern and that pattern (whole is one
of its parts and its parts combine to make the whole) should not be a
one of a kind pattern but be repeated elsewhere. In physics the theory
of the cosmos pattern repeats itself in the Unification of Forces and
repeats the pattern in the axioms of physics which are the Maxwell
Equations.
Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
.

User: "Archimedes Plutonium"

Title: Re: Nested mathematical forms of Maxwell theory and Unification of 16 Apr 2005 12:46:12 PM
Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:21:11 -0500 Archimedes Plutonium wrote:



Finally I give a third example of this Nested mathematical form which
cannot be made into equations. We cannot write an equation for pi since
it is transcendental. So can we say that an Atom Totality is
mathematically transcendental since you cannot write an equation where
parts combine to be the whole yet the whole is one of its parts? No, of
course not.

I should make myself more clear here. Pi is transcendental meaning it is
not algebraic. Equations have pi in them but pi is not algebraic. And
Lagrangian and Hamiltonian are algebraics. So by injecting a Cosmic Coulomb
force that replaces gravity into the Maxwell Equations makes the Maxwell
Equations as transcendental or nonalgebraic.
We have another example of this feature in the Uncertainty Principle which
makes Quantum Mechanics transcendental and non algebraic. The particle wave
duality as given by the Uncertainty Principle is nonalgebraic and gives
rise to Quantum Tunnelling.
You are not going to derive the Uncertainty Principle from some other set
of axioms using Lagrangian. Likewise, when this Cosmic Coulomb term is
added to the Maxwell Equations will put the Maxwell Equations as
nonalgebraic just as pi is, and just as the Uncertainty Principle is.
A Cosmic Coulomb force replacing gravity into the Maxwell Equations will
elevate those Equations on a par to Quantum Mechanics and the Maxwell
Equations will no longer be thought of as a axiom set of Classical Physics.
The Maxwell Equations will no longer be Classical Physics but rather the
very heart of physics and on par with everything in Quantum Mechanics.
Now some may complain that the Maxwell Equations already has the Coulomb
Law and so why should there be an overarching Coulomb term added to the
Maxwell Equations. And my most simple answer is that the Maxwell Equations
of old exist in a experimental condition where gravity does play a role in
what those equations are. The old Maxwell equations ignores gravity and
sees gravity as some entity outside of EM theory. But when we see gravity
as a Coulomb force itself then Faradays law and Ampere's law have missing
the term of a overarching Cosmic Coulomb that allows for a Faraday's law or
an Ampere's law to even exist. In the past we ignored gravity because we
thought it was distinct from EM and that its force strength was too weak to
influence the laws of EM. But we cannot ignore gravity as a Cosmic Coulomb
because that is EM itself. EM creates gravity and so the old Maxwell
Equations are incomplete. There would not be a Faradays Law or Ampere Law
if a Cosmic Coulomb did not exist to create an environment to experiment
and find out what those laws are in the first place.
If gravity were distinct from EM then the old Maxwell Equations stand as
not needing correction. But when gravity is a force that is one of the
Maxwell Equations then the old Maxwell Equations have to be added a new
term of an overarching Coulomb force that creates Faraday's and Ampere's
laws.
Feynman and Landau and Lifschitz in the 20th century could derive the old
Maxwell Equations from diverse other principles such as Principle of Least
Action and Fermat's Principle of Least Time and using the algebraics of
Lagrangian or Hamiltonians. But the revised Maxwell Equations where gravity
term of a Cosmic Coulomb is added onto the old Maxwell Equations, that they
are no longer algebraic. There is no longer a derivation of the Maxwell
Equations using Lagrangians, just as there is no derivation of Quantum
Tunneling or Uncertainty Principle.
The new Maxwell Equations with a Cosmic Coulomb term becomes the heart of
physics and is NON derivable from other axioms. The new Maxwell Equations
become the root axiom set.
Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
.

User: "John Sefton"

Title: Re: Nested mathematical forms of Maxwell theory and Unification of 16 Apr 2005 01:58:40 AM

(the galaxies
are dots of the electron dot cloud).

No, the dots making up a galaxy arm- the *stars*-
are the dots of the electron cloud.
They extend from the 'Black Hole' or proton
out to the edge in a spiral shape.
Each star is made from atoms. Each of these atoms in its
turn contains a Black Hole, or proton,
at its center and is surrounded by 'dots' that
make up electron clouds.
These dots are smaller stars yet, made out of smaller
atoms, each of which has
a 'Black Hole' at its center...........
Nested.
John
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/
GALAXY MODEL For The ATOM
.
User: "Archimedes Plutonium"

Title: Re: Nested mathematical forms of Maxwell theory and Unification 16 Apr 2005 12:13:50 PM
Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:58:40 -0600 John Sefton wrote:

(the galaxies
are dots of the electron dot cloud).


No, the dots making up a galaxy arm- the *stars*-
are the dots of the electron cloud.
They extend from the 'Black Hole' or proton
out to the edge in a spiral shape.

Each star is made from atoms. Each of these atoms in its
turn contains a Black Hole, or proton,
at its center and is surrounded by 'dots' that
make up electron clouds.

These dots are smaller stars yet, made out of smaller
atoms, each of which has
a 'Black Hole' at its center...........

Nested.

John

In the 1990s when I told a friend of mine that the Atom Totality theory
makes God into a pantheism where the Cosmos itself is God. Where Science
is God, and God is Science. And that the closest thing to God is the
nucleus of the Atom Totality. And my friend replied that people are
nutty and that they will find a place to inject their Jesus or inject
their Holy Ghost or inject their miracles and supernatural and
mysticism.
So I guess, from John above that not only does the Atom Totality theory
put the religious and supernatural folk on a run for cover or a run for
injection but it puts the String theorist on a run for cover and run for
injection. And it puts the string theorists as nutty or even nuttier
than the religious folk.
Way back in the time of Democritus, those early Atomists were often
burned at the stake for being atheists. Democritus Atom theory was
viewed as too atheistic. And some people like Hypatia were burned for
knowing science is greater than religion.
No, John, I don't think string people could ever make a stand of
injection into the Atom Totality theory but will disappear and vanish
almost overnight when the Atom Totality theory catches momentum.
Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
.



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