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User: "Fusioneer"
Date: 04 Mar 2005 03:52:39 PM
Object: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now!
This book is going to knock you off your feet! What you learn in this
book is not theory but rather you're going to get some real genuine
knowledge about how the universe works and you'll be able to implement
what you know in experiments and in new technology. The people who get
a hold of this book published on CD-ROM will be so far ahead of the
mainstream scientific community that they'll look back at them like
modern scientists look back upon the alchemists of the middle ages.
This is the science revolution you've been waiting for.
At last its here! Step by step you can see first the basic way to
understand the unit charge (basic charge of a quantum charged
particle). Without a decent understanding of the nature of charge it
wouldn't be possible to understand gravity.
But once you have the first thing down then unification of
electromagnetism and gravity is trivially obvious. It is so simple
you'll hardly believe your eyes!

From there you can deduce the most important and yet previously unknown

property of a gravitational field - the gravitational charge separation
effect.
Without that charge separation effect there would be no heavy dark
matter! With it you can see that most red shifting is an indirect
function of the charge separation effect of strong gravitationl
sources.
Order the Book -When Shiloh Comes- on CD-ROM. 500 pages! At last a
perfect and sensible model for photons! You'll see that photons are
gravitational charge units! That's right gravitational charge units
have been sitting under our noses the whole time and that's because no
one knew how to unify electromagnetism and gravity before.
Go to: http://www.singtech.com/Unification.html and order today!
This book will turn modern physics upside down!
The actual real 'general case' with respect to the interactive behavior
of elementary charged particles is revealed! Guess what! Coulomb's
Law is a special case! A bright highschool student can deduce this
from first principles and well known experimental data. I take you
step by step through the logic and when I'm done you'll be convinced.
No one and I mean -no one- has ever been able to refute this surprising
new general case that subsumes Coulomb's Law behavior as a special case
that only applies to elementary charged particles that are not
overlapping in momentum space. The 'strong force' can be shown to be
entirely electromagnetic in nature! That's right gluons and quarks are
fictions, but no one knew how to prove that before! The intellectual
fabrication of the so-called 'nuclear strong' force was the biggest
scientific mistake of the 20th century! I found the error! Believe me,
I was utterly astounded that no one had discovered this before! Yet,
Ph.D. after Ph.D has stumbled away muttering in disbelief after they've
been shown the proof. They have a cognitive dissonance because all
that they have believed about how elementary charged particles behaved
is turned upside down. No wonder they couldn't build a working nuclear
fusion reactor! They've never understood the fusion process itself.
Did you know that in the 1950's Lovberg and Glasstone reported that
experiments with accelerated deuterium nuclei yielded a detectable
number of nuclear fusion reactions when none of the interacting nuclei
had sufficient energy to surmount the so-called Coulomb barrier?
That's right!
According to Glasstone and Lovberg in Chapter 2 of the report
"Controlled Thermonuclear Reactions" prepared under the auspices of the
AEC in 1960 "...experiments made with accelerated nuclei have shown
that nuclear reactions can take place at detectable rates even when the
energies are considerably below those corresponding to the top of the
Coulomb barrier. In other words, there is no threshold energy,
determined by the maximum electrostatic repulsion of the interacting
nuclei, below which the fusion reaction will not occur. Such behavior,
which cannot be explained in terms of classical mechanics, can be
interpreted by means of wave mechanics. It can be shown that there is
a certain probability that two nuclei will combine even though they do
not have sufficient energy to surmount the Coulomb barrier. This
effect is commonly referred to as 'barrier penetration'."
So, they wrote it off calling it wave mechanical tunneling or "quantum
tunneling". Then they tried to explain it to others using a metaphor
showing a particle tunneling through an energy hill. They didn't
understand that particles must develop a particular relationship with
each other (and it isn't one where they are colliding with each other)
in order to undergo fusion. Such non or low dynamic relationships
develop in any hot gas but in very small numbers or at a small ratio
compared to the typical collsional or most likely normal very dynamic
relationship where the particles have considerable relative motion with
respect to each other.
You're going to get a complete rework of modern physics. Buy this book
and you will be leapfrogging generations of physics. You'll have a
pretty good idea how to build a real fusion reactor. You'll truly
understand the nature of gravity.
There's bonuses! You'll be introduced to the dynamics of flux loop
systems. You'll learn that stars, including our local star, the sun,
don't produce much energy at all via fusion and that they really are
large scale flux loop structures called electromagnetotoroids (EMTs)
that can be mathematically described (in the ideal) as Del X H or a Del
X E vector fields. These EMTs oscillate between modes giving us
stellar cycles (or to us locally, our solar cycle).
But EMT are full of surprises! It can be shown that any EMT produces a
monolithic gravitational field whose terminus (most intense place) is
the toroidal axis of the EMT. You'll find out that EMTs can actually
introduce new geometry into the universe and hence create matter ex
nihilo. That's right the universe has a perfect mechanism for creating
matter. The mantra of the 1st law of thermodynamics tells us that all
chemical and nuclear processes are conservative! Well, they are. So
what? What the mantra never told us was where mass came from in the
first place. The mantra therefore insists on making us believe that
the universe is conservative and that all the matter and energy that is
here is all that has ever been here and all that ever will be here.
How arrogant to claim to know that! I show you the process of matter
creation which occurs in oscillating EMTs during their compact (Del X
H) mode. I'll show you blatant examples of matter being generated
right in front of our faces and no one realized that was what was going
on. They couldn't think of it. They weren't allowed to think of it
because the power of the mantra that we all learned in school kept us
from considering anything outside of its claim. Well, once you
understand the general case, the nature of charge, the nature of the
unit gravitaional charge and how to put it all together with the
dynamics of flux loop systems then you'll find yourself amazed and in a
state of joy because the universe can at last begin to make sense and
you'll be able to cast away all the pseudoscientific beliefs that have
been rammed down your throat for most of your life. You'll discover
that stars create mass ex nihilo in their cores (at the inner equator
of their primary flux loop or EMT) during the part of the cycle that
for our own sun we call solar maximum. You'll learn that stellar jet
systems are matter factories. You'll learn that the EMT of a planet
creates the mass of the planet and that planets grow. You'll learn
that the Earth has grown and that because of the mass generation
mechanism in the core of the planet the foundational assumptions behind
the radiometric dating of rocks are wrong!
Order the book today at http://www.singtech.com/Unification.html
Peace to all men of Good Will,
Charles Cagle
.

User: "Franz Heymann"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 01:35:56 PM
"Fusioneer" <ccryder1947@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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This book is going to knock you off your feet!

Yes. It's the smell of it.
--
Franz
"A first-rate laboratory is one in which mediocre scientists can
produce outstanding work"
P.M.S. Blackett
.

User: "chosp"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 04 Mar 2005 05:41:58 PM
"Fusioneer" <ccryder1947@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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This book is going to knock you off your feet!

- snip hack advert -
What appallingly written spam!!!
.

User: "Morituri-|-Max"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 02:01:20 AM
"Fusioneer" <ccryder1947@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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This book is going to knock you off your feet!

Only if you drop a crate of them on me.
.

User: "Einstein Aether"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 04 Mar 2005 09:12:43 PM
Fusioneer wrote:

The actual real 'general case' with respect to the interactive

behavior

of elementary charged particles is revealed! Guess what! Coulomb's
Law is a special case! A bright highschool student can deduce this
from first principles and well known experimental data. I take you
step by step through the logic and when I'm done you'll be convinced.
No one and I mean -no one- has ever been able to refute this

surprising

new general case that subsumes Coulomb's Law behavior as a special

case

that only applies to elementary charged particles that are not
overlapping in momentum space. The 'strong force' can be shown to be
entirely electromagnetic in nature! That's right gluons and quarks

are

fictions, but no one knew how to prove that before! The intellectual
fabrication of the so-called 'nuclear strong' force was the biggest
scientific mistake of the 20th century! I found the error! Believe

me,

I was utterly astounded that no one had discovered this before! Yet,
Ph.D. after Ph.D has stumbled away muttering in disbelief after

they've

been shown the proof. They have a cognitive dissonance because all
that they have believed about how elementary charged particles

behaved

is turned upside down. No wonder they couldn't build a working

nuclear

fusion reactor! They've never understood the fusion process itself.
Did you know that in the 1950's Lovberg and Glasstone reported that
experiments with accelerated deuterium nuclei yielded a detectable
number of nuclear fusion reactions when none of the interacting

nuclei

had sufficient energy to surmount the so-called Coulomb barrier?
That's right!
Charles Cagle

Know What.
Even if one in a million chance you are right. The idea is not
new. In fact. David Thomson also said the same thing about
the strong force caused by something else (see http://www.16pi2.com/).
In fact, he has tons of mathematical equations to support it.
So I guess you'd better start getting lawyers now to fight
with Thomson over who has owned the idea first. Whoever wins in
court would determine who would get the Nobel (or No Bill)...
LOL! :)
Einstein Aether
.
User: "Fusioneer"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 01:19:23 AM
Einstein Aether wrote:

Even if one in a million chance you are right. The idea is not
new. In fact. David Thomson also said the same thing about
the strong force caused by something else (see

http://www.16pi2.com/).

In fact, he has tons of mathematical equations to support it.
So I guess you'd better start getting lawyers now to fight
with Thomson over who has owned the idea first. Whoever wins in
court would determine who would get the Nobel (or No Bill)...
LOL! :)

Einstein Aether,
David Thomson at his website wrote "In addition, since the four
"forces" unify in the Aether Physics Model, anti-gravity effects
will soon be engineered and the preferred mode of human travel will
take a giant leap forward. "
First, I am right. Second, I've never claimed to be the first person
to suggest the strong force was something else so your point is moot or
impotent at best. Third, Thomson's ideas are so far from being right
that he's in the 'not even wrong' category and this is because he
really doesn't understand a thing about gravity. I doubt that he
suggests that a graviational field has a charge separation effect.
Why? Because he doesn't know what a gravitational field really is. No
Aetherist does, no believer in a continuum does. If he did then he'd
never suggest antigravity devices. When one inverts a gravitational
field they end up with a gravitational field. Too bad all you
pseudoscientific dreamers. I'm not being arrogant about this, I'm
just absolutely correct. Don't confuse the idea that I've achieved
certainty with regard to some aspects of physics with overconfidence.
I just know what I'm talking about and I can prove it. I've learned to
think at the quantum level and that's the only way you'll ever see the
whole picture. Just for example, any one quantum particle in a
universe of n quanta can have motion with respect to n-1 other quantum
particles. This means that any one quantum particle can be
prosecuting n-1 trajectories simultaneously. When you learn how to
deal with that fact properly then you are not far from deriving the
nature of charge. And once you have the nature of charge down then
you're a trivial step away from unifying electromagnetism and gravity.
All who have come before me on these matters are thieves and robbers
and liars. I've come to bring a great awakening in physics. When
people learn the truth about the interactive behavior of elementary
charged particles the so-called experts and wise men will hide their
faces in shame because they believed and taught so many lies.
Fourth, who cares about a Nobel prize? Truth is more valuable than all
the treasures of the world.
Peace be upon all men of Good Will
Charles Cagle
.
User: "Greysky"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 03:11:21 AM
"Fusioneer" <ccryder1947@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110007163.693228.193950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Einstein Aether wrote:

Even if one in a million chance you are right. The idea is not
new. In fact. David Thomson also said the same thing about
the strong force caused by something else (see

http://www.16pi2.com/).

In fact, he has tons of mathematical equations to support it.
So I guess you'd better start getting lawyers now to fight
with Thomson over who has owned the idea first. Whoever wins in
court would determine who would get the Nobel (or No Bill)...
LOL! :)


Einstein Aether,

David Thomson at his website wrote "In addition, since the four
"forces" unify in the Aether Physics Model, anti-gravity effects
will soon be engineered and the preferred mode of human travel will
take a giant leap forward. "

First, I am right. Second, I've never claimed to be the first person
to suggest the strong force was something else so your point is moot or
impotent at best. Third, Thomson's ideas are so far from being right
that he's in the 'not even wrong' category and this is because he
really doesn't understand a thing about gravity. I doubt that he
suggests that a graviational field has a charge separation effect.
Why? Because he doesn't know what a gravitational field really is. No
Aetherist does, no believer in a continuum does. If he did then he'd
never suggest antigravity devices. When one inverts a gravitational
field they end up with a gravitational field. Too bad all you
pseudoscientific dreamers. I'm not being arrogant about this, I'm
just absolutely correct. Don't confuse the idea that I've achieved
certainty with regard to some aspects of physics with overconfidence.
I just know what I'm talking about and I can prove it. I've learned to
think at the quantum level and that's the only way you'll ever see the
whole picture. Just for example, any one quantum particle in a
universe of n quanta can have motion with respect to n-1 other quantum
particles. This means that any one quantum particle can be
prosecuting n-1 trajectories simultaneously. When you learn how to
deal with that fact properly then you are not far from deriving the
nature of charge. And once you have the nature of charge down then
you're a trivial step away from unifying electromagnetism and gravity.
All who have come before me on these matters are thieves and robbers
and liars. I've come to bring a great awakening in physics. When
people learn the truth about the interactive behavior of elementary
charged particles the so-called experts and wise men will hide their
faces in shame because they believed and taught so many lies.

Fourth, who cares about a Nobel prize? Truth is more valuable than all
the treasures of the world.

Peace be upon all men of Good Will

Are you God?
.
User: "George Dishman"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 04:01:18 AM
"Greysky" <greyskynospam@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Fusioneer" <ccryder1947@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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... I'm not being arrogant about this, I'm
just absolutely correct. ...

I like that line, it tells you everything you
need to know.

All who have come before me on these matters are thieves and robbers
and liars. ..


Are you God?

He already told you, God merely stole Charles'
ideas in order to find out how to create the
universe.
George
.
User: "Morituri-|-Max"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 12:28:45 PM
"George Dishman" <george@briar.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Greysky" <greyskynospam@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Fusioneer" <ccryder1947@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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... I'm not being arrogant about this, I'm
just absolutely correct. ...


I like that line, it tells you everything you
need to know.

All who have come before me on these matters are thieves and robbers
and liars. ..


Are you God?


He already told you, God merely stole Charles'
ideas in order to find out how to create the
universe.

And I bet God didn't pay for the book either.. what a cheapskate.
.

User: "Einstein Aether"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 04:08:15 AM
Fusioner,
If, as you implied, the strong force is related to the
electromagnetic force and the quarks are illusions. Can
you create machines to disassociate the electromagnetic
forces in atoms/objects and beam them half a world away
and reassemble them back? UPS, DHL, etc. may grab your
book if there is a possibility it can be done. Lol.
E.A.
.
User: "Einstein Aether"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 04:44:34 AM
On a serious note.
If you are serious that you are serious Fusioner. How
can you explain scattering experiments which show
consistently that 3 quarks are inside a proton? How
can this be illusion? Is there a mechanism where such
quark debris can be produced making 3 outputs all
the time? What dictates the behavior of debris
formation if it is so??
If you can explain the above logically and convincingly.
And show simple experiments how electromagnetic forces can
be related to the strong forces such as disassembling
atoms, etc. Then a shipping carrier may be seriously
interested in your work. There is nothing better than
receiving an item from half a world away within 5
minutes. If your model is true. This becomes a possibility.
You describe your physics can make a brighter world. Maybe
brighter as in initial flash from a thermonuclear
detonation delivered by Al Qaeda via Tele-Fed-Ex
10 minutes parcel service worldwide.
Ponder on this.
E.A.
.



User: "Fusioneer"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 03:27:51 AM
No. I'm not God - but I am one of God's servants.
.
User: "Franz Heymann"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 06 Mar 2005 01:52:52 AM
"Fusioneer" <ccryder1947@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No. I'm not God - but I am one of God's servants.

Which god? One of the three of Christianity (not counting Mary for the
moment)? One of the two of Islam? One of the thousands of Hinduism?
--
Franz
"A first-rate laboratory is one in which mediocre scientists can
produce outstanding work"
P.M.S. Blackett
.

User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 05 Mar 2005 08:29:29 AM
Fusioneer wrote:

No. I'm not God - but I am one of God's servants.

According to the Christian scriptures, God's servants don't
behave like you do spewing your *****!
.



User: "Morituri-|-Max"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 02:08:04 AM
"Fusioneer" <ccryder1947@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Fourth, who cares about a Nobel prize? Truth is more valuable than all
the treasures of the world.

Peace be upon all men of Good Will

Which explains why you aren't hawking your book here for money,.... oh wait!
You ARE hawking your book for money.. and you have said without a doubt
that you understand what a cheapskate is, so you are HAWKING your book for
LOTS of money... why do you have to hawk it when you can show people how
to build fusion reactors?
.
User: "SPHINX Technologies"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 19 Mar 2005 01:10:00 AM
In article <ENdWd.42503$Qz1.26050@fe2.texas.rr.com>,
Morituri-|-Max <newage@sendarico.net> wrote:

... why do you have to hawk it when you can show people how
to build fusion reactors?

Fusion reactors are dangerous and obsolete. If you've gotta play
around with fusion, at least make it COLD fusion, or sonoluminescence-
based fusion.
But as I said, fusion is obsolete. Besides, why do you want to run
us all out of hydrogen? You humans are SO short-sighted!
.
User: "DrPostman"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 19 Mar 2005 02:02:56 AM
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:10:00 +0000 (UTC),
(SPHINX
Technologies) in accordance with The Prophecy scribed:

In article <ENdWd.42503$Qz1.26050@fe2.texas.rr.com>,
Morituri-|-Max <newage@sendarico.net> wrote:

... why do you have to hawk it when you can show people how
to build fusion reactors?


Fusion reactors are dangerous and obsolete. If you've gotta play
around with fusion, at least make it COLD fusion, or sonoluminescence-
based fusion.

But as I said, fusion is obsolete. Besides, why do you want to run
us all out of hydrogen? You humans are SO short-sighted!

What fusion reactors?
--
DrPostman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULTŪ #15-51506-253.
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner - August 2004
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com
"Skepticism's bad rap arises from the impression
that, however necessary the activity, it can only
be regarded as a negative removal of false claims.
Not so... Proper debunking is done in the interest
of an alternate model of explanation, not as a nihilistic
exercise. The alternate model is rationality itself, tied
to moral decency--the most powerful joint instrument for
good that our planet has ever known."
-Stephen Jay Gould
.

User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 19 Mar 2005 06:17:27 AM
SPHINX Technologies wrote:

In article <ENdWd.42503$Qz1.26050@fe2.texas.rr.com>,
Morituri-|-Max <newage@sendarico.net> wrote:

... why do you have to hawk it when you can show people how
to build fusion reactors?



Fusion reactors are dangerous and obsolete. If you've gotta play
around with fusion, at least make it COLD fusion, or sonoluminescence-
based fusion.

But as I said, fusion is obsolete. Besides, why do you want to run
us all out of hydrogen? You humans are SO short-sighted!

*plonk*
.



User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 05 Mar 2005 08:26:46 AM
Fusioneer wrote:


Peace be upon all men of Good Will

Charles Cagle

Shouldn't that be "Peace and Good Will to all men [and women]"?
Cagle's "Peace be upon all men of Good Will" is as restrictive
a crackPotter's!
Basically *****, Cagle, as is the content of your postings!
.
User: "Fusioneer"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 02:09:39 PM

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Fusioneer wrote:

Peace be upon all men of Good Will


Charles Cagle


Shouldn't that be "Peace and Good Will to all men [and women]"?

Cagle's "Peace be upon all men of Good Will" is as restrictive
a crackPotter's!

Basically *****, Cagle, as is the content of your postings!

men, noun.
1. plural of man. Boys grow up to be men.
2. human beings; persons in general.
Peace be upon all men of Good Will is a benediction to all people or
persons of Good Will, somehow the meaning and benediction escaped you.
Get a clue that because you are not a person of Good Will that it
excludes you and those of your heart and mind, not women in general.
Even when you pick apart the simplest things you get it wrong. You're
a wrong hearted child of hell, Sam. Repent.
Peace be upon all men of Good Will
Charles Cagle
.
User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 05 Mar 2005 02:55:35 PM
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Fusioneer wrote:


Peace be upon all men of Good Will


Charles Cagle


Shouldn't that be "Peace and Good Will to all men [and women]"?

Cagle's "Peace be upon all men of Good Will" is as restrictive
a crackPotter's!

Basically *****, Cagle, as is the content of your postings!



men, noun.
1. plural of man. Boys grow up to be men.
2. human beings; persons in general.

Peace be upon all men of Good Will is a benediction to all people or
persons of Good Will, somehow the meaning and benediction escaped you.
Get a clue that because you are not a person of Good Will that it
excludes you and those of your heart and mind, not women in general.
Even when you pick apart the simplest things you get it wrong. You're
a wrong hearted child of hell, Sam. Repent.

Peace be upon all men of Good Will

Charles Cagle

No Hell--except in your mind, Cagle
.



User: "RP"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 05 Mar 2005 10:07:59 AM
Fusioneer wrote:

Einstein Aether wrote:


Even if one in a million chance you are right. The idea is not
new. In fact. David Thomson also said the same thing about
the strong force caused by something else (see


http://www.16pi2.com/).

In fact, he has tons of mathematical equations to support it.
So I guess you'd better start getting lawyers now to fight
with Thomson over who has owned the idea first. Whoever wins in
court would determine who would get the Nobel (or No Bill)...
LOL! :)



Einstein Aether,

David Thomson at his website wrote "In addition, since the four
"forces" unify in the Aether Physics Model, anti-gravity effects
will soon be engineered and the preferred mode of human travel will
take a giant leap forward. "

First, I am right. Second, I've never claimed to be the first person
to suggest the strong force was something else so your point is moot or
impotent at best. Third, Thomson's ideas are so far from being right
that he's in the 'not even wrong' category and this is because he
really doesn't understand a thing about gravity. I doubt that he
suggests that a graviational field has a charge separation effect.
Why? Because he doesn't know what a gravitational field really is. No
Aetherist does, no believer in a continuum does. If he did then he'd
never suggest antigravity devices. When one inverts a gravitational
field they end up with a gravitational field. Too bad all you
pseudoscientific dreamers. I'm not being arrogant about this, I'm
just absolutely correct. Don't confuse the idea that I've achieved
certainty with regard to some aspects of physics with overconfidence.
I just know what I'm talking about and I can prove it. I've learned to
think at the quantum level and that's the only way you'll ever see the
whole picture. Just for example, any one quantum particle in a
universe of n quanta can have motion with respect to n-1 other quantum
particles. This means that any one quantum particle can be
prosecuting n-1 trajectories simultaneously. When you learn how to
deal with that fact properly then you are not far from deriving the
nature of charge. And once you have the nature of charge down then
you're a trivial step away from unifying electromagnetism and gravity.
All who have come before me on these matters are thieves and robbers
and liars. I've come to bring a great awakening in physics. When
people learn the truth about the interactive behavior of elementary
charged particles the so-called experts and wise men will hide their
faces in shame because they believed and taught so many lies.

Fourth, who cares about a Nobel prize? Truth is more valuable than all
the treasures of the world.

Peace be upon all men of Good Will

Charles Cagle

You might have been taken more seriously if you hadn't started with
this servant-of-god tirade. While it may seem amazing to you that
you've obtained a profound insight or two (at least a couple of valid
ones IMHO), but that doesn't mean that they were implanted by a higher
being. I have derived similar insights but I can assure you that they
were the result of careful and painstaking pure deduction. The ability
to reason may be arguably a "gift" of fate falling out of the chaotic
cosmos, but from god? Who is god? Can you answer that simple question
in an objective fashion? You may have a feeling, and a conception of
god that is more cerebral in essence than the regular superstitions,
and though you may be correct in the assessment that truth is
fundamental and transcendent, or something similar, but as a general
rule when in doubt don't, or at least make it known that "you only
suspect that it is so". Do you appreciate the difference in these two
approaches that differ none in motivating sentiment? To wit, no
empiricists will ever take you seriously, which is sad because you're
going to take down with you a few valid conclusions that have been
derived from other sources as well.
You said something about thieves and charlatans, and if you were
referring indirectly to me as one of those, then I can assure you that
my math was done many years before you or this computer existed in my
world. Ritz also predates you by some years, so I suppose maybe that
he reached into the future to steal your revelations, and maybe
Earnshaw did too?
BTW, a lack of academic credentials cannot be substituted for by
appealing to god, unless of course your audience consists of Moslems,
Baptists, or the mentally retarded.
Richard Perry
.
User: "Fusioneer"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 05 Mar 2005 02:57:47 PM




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Fusioneer wrote:

Einstein Aether wrote:


Even if one in a million chance you are right. The idea is not
new. In fact. David Thomson also said the same thing about
the strong force caused by something else (see


http://www.16pi2.com/).


In fact, he has tons of mathematical equations to support it.
So I guess you'd better start getting lawyers now to fight
with Thomson over who has owned the idea first. Whoever wins in
court would determine who would get the Nobel (or No Bill)...
LOL! :)


Einstein Aether,


David Thomson at his website wrote "In addition, since the four
"forces" unify in the Aether Physics Model, anti-gravity effects
will soon be engineered and the preferred mode of human travel will
take a giant leap forward. "


First, I am right. Second, I've never claimed to be the first

person

to suggest the strong force was something else so your point is

moot or

impotent at best. Third, Thomson's ideas are so far from being

right

that he's in the 'not even wrong' category and this is because he
really doesn't understand a thing about gravity. I doubt that he
suggests that a graviational field has a charge separation effect.
Why? Because he doesn't know what a gravitational field really is.

No

Aetherist does, no believer in a continuum does. If he did then

he'd

never suggest antigravity devices. When one inverts a

gravitational

field they end up with a gravitational field. Too bad all you
pseudoscientific dreamers. I'm not being arrogant about this, I'm
just absolutely correct. Don't confuse the idea that I've achieved
certainty with regard to some aspects of physics with

overconfidence.

I just know what I'm talking about and I can prove it. I've

learned to

think at the quantum level and that's the only way you'll ever see

the

whole picture. Just for example, any one quantum particle in a
universe of n quanta can have motion with respect to n-1 other

quantum

particles. This means that any one quantum particle can be
prosecuting n-1 trajectories simultaneously. When you learn how

to

deal with that fact properly then you are not far from deriving the
nature of charge. And once you have the nature of charge down then
you're a trivial step away from unifying electromagnetism and

gravity.

All who have come before me on these matters are thieves and

robbers

and liars. I've come to bring a great awakening in physics. When
people learn the truth about the interactive behavior of elementary
charged particles the so-called experts and wise men will hide

their

faces in shame because they believed and taught so many lies.


Fourth, who cares about a Nobel prize? Truth is more valuable than

all

the treasures of the world.


Peace be upon all men of Good Will


Charles Cagle


You might have been taken more seriously if you hadn't started with
this servant-of-god tirade. While it may seem amazing to you that
you've obtained a profound insight or two (at least a couple of valid
ones IMHO), but that doesn't mean that they were implanted by a

higher

being.

You're confused. I am a servant of God. What's that to you? I've
never stated that I've come to the conclusion through logic or reason
that the 'profound insight or two' came to me from God. It came to me
through the indwelling of His Holy Spirit, it came to me in revelations
and I know from whence it came. If you do not then don't presume to
be privy to my mind or to my conversations or communications with the
Living God. I know what I asked for and I know that I received that
which I asked for. Will a father give his child a snake if he asks for
a piece of bread? Even so, our Father in heaven knows to give the
proper gift much better than any man and has promised to give wisdom to
anyone who asks in faith.

I have derived similar insights but I can assure you that they
were the result of careful and painstaking pure deduction. The

ability

to reason may be arguably a "gift" of fate falling out of the chaotic
cosmos, but from god? Who is god? Can you answer that simple question
in an objective fashion? You may have a feeling, and a conception of
god that is more cerebral in essence than the regular superstitions,
and though you may be correct in the assessment that truth is
fundamental and transcendent, or something similar, but as a general
rule when in doubt don't, or at least make it known that "you only
suspect that it is so". Do you appreciate the difference in these two
approaches that differ none in motivating sentiment? To wit, no
empiricists will ever take you seriously, which is sad because you're
going to take down with you a few valid conclusions that have been
derived from other sources as well.

Spoken like a true coward or like a man ashamed of his association with
God. The difference between us, Richard, is that both you and I know
of the existence of God. In fact all men do. When men hear the Gospel
of Jesus Christ they know it is true the moment they hear it. They
don't need proof. They need repentance. My covenant with God is not
to deny Him. How can I expect a continued association with the Living
God who daily meets my needs and instructs me concerning his creation
when I act ashamed of that association or hide if from other men? I'm
not like some coward who is afraid to be thrown out of his synagogue if
he makes public his belief in Christ. If they rejected Christ, how
could it be that they would also not reject me. I am not better than
my master. But you remain confused thinking that I am hoping to obtain
the fond salutations of the world.


You said something about thieves and charlatans, and if you were
referring indirectly to me as one of those, then I can assure you

that

my math was done many years before you or this computer existed in my
world. Ritz also predates you by some years, so I suppose maybe that
he reached into the future to steal your revelations, and maybe
Earnshaw did too?

Richard, our communcations in the past have always been cordial. What
is it to you what I believe? All I know is that I have a physics that
works, that was deduced from simple axioms or postulates that any
thinking rational person would agree is obvious, such as the relativity
of motion. This new physics came to me from God - what do you care
where I claim that it came from? If it is true, where I claim it came
from won't make it not true.
Everyone who has posited the nature of a gravitational field or who
invented the "strong force" is a thief and a robber. Why? Because they
misled men with their fabrications. When generations of men are taught
lies then a great harm has been inflicted upon all mankind.

BTW, a lack of academic credentials cannot be substituted for by
appealing to god, unless of course your audience consists of Moslems,
Baptists, or the mentally retarded.

Richard Perry

BTW a great many academic credentials cannot be substituted for nor
should be mistakenly taken as evidence that a person is in possession
of the truth. And a lack of academic credentials isn't evidence that a
person isn't in possession of the truth. I'm surprised that you fear
these barking dogs as much as you do, Richard. Stand a little taller.
Peace be to all men of Good Will
Charles Cagle
.
User: "Franz Heymann"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 06 Mar 2005 05:49:12 PM
"Fusioneer" <ccryder1947@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110056267.926546.25360@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
[snip]

I've
never stated that I've come to the conclusion through logic or

reason

that the 'profound insight or two' came to me from God. It came to

me

through the indwelling of His Holy Spirit, it came to me in

revelations

and I know from whence it came.

So that's the reason why it is so much horse dung?
So you are nothing but another blame-godder?
[snip]
--

Franz
"A first-rate laboratory is one in which mediocre scientists can
produce outstanding work"
P.M.S. Blackett

.

User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 05 Mar 2005 04:09:58 PM
Fusioneer wrote:


You're confused. I am a servant of God. What's that to you? I've
never stated that I've come to the conclusion through logic or reason
that the 'profound insight or two' came to me from God. It came to me
through the indwelling of His Holy Spirit, it came to me in revelations
and I know from whence it came.

Right!
.

User: "RP"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 06 Mar 2005 12:03:00 AM
Fusioneer wrote:



RP Mar 5, 8:07 am show options
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion, sci.physics, sci.astro,
You might have been taken more seriously if you hadn't started with
this servant-of-god tirade. While it may seem amazing to you that
you've obtained a profound insight or two (at least a couple of valid
ones IMHO), but that doesn't mean that they were implanted by a


higher

being.



You're confused. I am a servant of God.

So is Jimmy Swaggart, so is Jim Baker, so were Jones and Koresh. Jesus
would be a loner if he came back today, not that he wasn't before
either. When he said "turn the other cheek" they all mumbled "say
what? I'll slice off an ear or two before I do something stupid like
that".
In the words of Peter, "Jesus *who*?"
In the words of Judas, "I'd have done it for free...suckers."
In the words of Paul, "He was no more a god than are you all. Did I
just say that out loud? Hmmm.".
In the words of Daniel, "Man that was some good weed".
In the words of Moses on the mount, "Who the hell *are* you anyway?"
Jesus on the cross "Father, let this burden pass, seems I'm not as
cocksure about this as I was a few hours ago".
Joseph to Mary "If I were you I'd stick to that story too, but I'm not
buying it, I've a mind to put you away" "Angel my *******!"
In the words of Solomon "Party, party, party. We're all worm dirt, so
***** it all, do whatever it is that makes you feel good. Mmm that
little babe over there is hot. She has little tits though, wonder if
I can get her in the sack if I disguise myself as a player"
Read between the lines Cagle. The King's english can make anything
sound authoritative and noble.
The Lord instructed his servant to speak thusly, and these are the
words that he spake to his servant. Thou shouldst go forth unto Canaan
and slay every man woman and child, and even the cattle, and though
shalt gather all the idols of gold and thou shalt smelt them to
smithereens, and thou shalt build me a temple in that place in which
the servants of the lord may dwell, and though shalt give to them a
tenth of all thy livelihood, and they shalt make alms for you before
the lord that he may spare you in the day of judgment. A tenth of all
thy goods, they are the Lords. Obey the words of the lord that he will
not turn away from you nor grant your enemies power over you to take
for themselves thy wives and thy cattle, and all thy goods, and to
slay you in the land which I have given unto you to dwell in.
Plain english: Gimme yer money and I'll, er, *protect* youz...capiche?
Seriously Cagle, Christians are the most judgmental, hypocritical,
backstabbing, blathering, drooling, conflicted trouble makers on this
side of the planet. And to be fair, Moslems are actually better
Christians than the Christians, but what the hell, so am I, even
though I'd like to see both disbanded, deported, or in the least
educated in the difference between Harry Potter and the devil, the
latter of which they are themselves closer in resemblance to than are
fictitious fucking characters in a novel. QED.
But to answer your question: Why does your preaching bother me? Simple
answer is that it's a reminder of the religious screed that is already
embedded in the physics. Compounding it just isn't an improvement. I'm
an empiricist, and I'm here in this group to discuss empirical reality.
Richard Perry
.
User: "Morituri-|-Max"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 06 Mar 2005 03:33:15 AM
"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:38vkhbF5lh8uiU1@individual.net...

But to answer your question: Why does your preaching bother me? Simple
answer is that it's a reminder of the religious screed that is already
embedded in the physics. Compounding it just isn't an improvement. I'm an
empiricist, and I'm here in this group to discuss empirical reality.

Big time Amen, well spoken... very well spoken.
Thanks
.


User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 05 Mar 2005 03:55:49 PM
Fusioneer wrote:
[snip]

You're confused. I am a servant of God.

[snip]
Yeah, like a toilet is a servant to feces.

Charles Cagle

Ha ha ha.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
.




User: "RP"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 04 Mar 2005 11:29:45 PM
Einstein Aether wrote:

Fusioneer wrote:


The actual real 'general case' with respect to the interactive


behavior

of elementary charged particles is revealed! Guess what! Coulomb's
Law is a special case! A bright highschool student can deduce this
from first principles and well known experimental data. I take you
step by step through the logic and when I'm done you'll be convinced.
No one and I mean -no one- has ever been able to refute this


surprising

new general case that subsumes Coulomb's Law behavior as a special


case

that only applies to elementary charged particles that are not
overlapping in momentum space. The 'strong force' can be shown to be
entirely electromagnetic in nature! That's right gluons and quarks


are

fictions, but no one knew how to prove that before! The intellectual
fabrication of the so-called 'nuclear strong' force was the biggest
scientific mistake of the 20th century! I found the error! Believe


me,

I was utterly astounded that no one had discovered this before! Yet,
Ph.D. after Ph.D has stumbled away muttering in disbelief after


they've

been shown the proof. They have a cognitive dissonance because all
that they have believed about how elementary charged particles


behaved

is turned upside down. No wonder they couldn't build a working


nuclear

fusion reactor! They've never understood the fusion process itself.
Did you know that in the 1950's Lovberg and Glasstone reported that
experiments with accelerated deuterium nuclei yielded a detectable
number of nuclear fusion reactions when none of the interacting


nuclei

had sufficient energy to surmount the so-called Coulomb barrier?
That's right!
Charles Cagle




Know What.

Even if one in a million chance you are right. The idea is not
new. In fact. David Thomson also said the same thing about
the strong force caused by something else (see http://www.16pi2.com/).
In fact, he has tons of mathematical equations to support it.
So I guess you'd better start getting lawyers now to fight
with Thomson over who has owned the idea first. Whoever wins in
court would determine who would get the Nobel (or No Bill)...
LOL! :)

Einstein Aether

True that it isn't new, which is why I don't spam my own derivation of
the same conclusions anymore, though I still certainly hold that they
are empirically exact by very definition of the Ampere. Cagle, OTOH,
has extended a general conclusion that there can be no output with no
input, i.e. that the Coulomb interaction is a macroscopic effect
arising from the relative motion of charge quanta (which I derive
directly with a simple algebraic sequence) and he has attempted to
sort the microscopic details of sub- and inter- atomic interactions
based upon this premise. Though his speculations may or may not prove
empirically consistent, his premise most surely is, and demonstrably so.
Richard Perry
.


User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 04 Mar 2005 04:35:18 PM
Fusioneer wrote:

This book is going to knock you off your feet! What you learn in this
book is not theory but rather you're going to get some real genuine
knowledge about how the universe works and you'll be able to implement
what you know in experiments and in new technology. The people who get
a hold of this book published on CD-ROM will be so far ahead of the
mainstream scientific community that they'll look back at them like
modern scientists look back upon the alchemists of the middle ages.
This is the science revolution you've been waiting for.

Thanks for Registering at crank do net
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Singularity+Technologies%22+site%3Awww.crank.net
.

User: "GR_GR"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 04 Mar 2005 05:50:00 PM
Fusioneer wrote:

This book is going to knock you off your feet! What you learn in this
book is not theory but rather you're going to get some real genuine
knowledge about how the universe works and you'll be able to implement
what you know in experiments and in new technology. The people who get
a hold of this book published on CD-ROM will be so far ahead of the
mainstream scientific community that they'll look back at them like
modern scientists look back upon the alchemists of the middle ages.
This is the science revolution you've been waiting for.

Conceited jerk.
---plonk---
.

User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity AvailableNow! 04 Mar 2005 06:15:37 PM
Fusioneer wrote:
[snip crap]

But once you have the first thing down then unification of
electromagnetism and gravity is trivially obvious.

[snip crap]
Trolling didiot.

Charles Cagle

Ha ha ha
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
.

User: "JATO"

Title: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! 04 Mar 2005 05:38:29 PM
Send me a free copy and I'll tell you what I think of it.
.


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