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01 Feb 2005 10:32:34 PM |
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Newton's laws |
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws of
motion.
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object then you
must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
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How do you know if an invention is revolutionary?
Count the experts that say it is impossible.
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| User: "Franz Heymann" |
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02 Feb 2005 06:00:20 AM |
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"PAUL JACOBY" <pjacoby@charter.net> wrote in message
news:eNYLd.5556$Ge.5064@fe06.lga...
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws
of
motion.
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object then
you
must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
No. That was not all he meant.
He actually had something quantitative to say.
Franz
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| User: "PAUL JACOBY" |
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02 Feb 2005 08:35:53 AM |
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Franz Heymann wrote:
"PAUL JACOBY" <pjacoby@charter.net> wrote in message
news:eNYLd.5556$Ge.5064@fe06.lga...
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws
of
motion.
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object then
you
must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
No. That was not all he meant.
He actually had something quantitative to say.
Franz
quantitative?
I see quantitative in the third law but not in the first or second.
Do see it in the first or second?
--
------------------- SOME THOUGHTS --------------------------
"The art of invention is to do what others think impossible"
How do you know if an invention is revolutionary?
Count the experts that say it is impossible.
THINK CAREFULLY -- IT'S DANGEROUS
EXCELLENCE IS ALWAYS HIDDEN IN THE DETAILS pj
pjacoby@charter.net
http://newlifter.tripod.com/
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| User: "Franz Heymann" |
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02 Feb 2005 02:13:25 PM |
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"PAUL JACOBY" <pjacoby@charter.net> wrote in message
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Franz Heymann wrote:
"PAUL JACOBY" <pjacoby@charter.net> wrote in message
news:eNYLd.5556$Ge.5064@fe06.lga...
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws
of
motion.
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object
then
you
must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
No. That was not all he meant.
He actually had something quantitative to say.
Franz
quantitative?
I see quantitative in the third law but not in the first or second.
Do see it in the first or second?
He made enough quantitative statements to bring into being the whole
of Newtonian mechanics.
Franz
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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02 Feb 2005 10:59:09 AM |
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PAUL JACOBY wrote:
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws of
motion.
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object then you
must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
Newton, Isaac. 1687, "Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica"
("Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy and his System of the
World"), trans. by A. Motte and revised by F. Cajori (University of
California Press: Berkeley, 1934)
Newton, Isaac. "The Principia: Mathematical Principles of Natural
Philosophy Trans." I. Bernard Cohen and Anne Whitman, with the
assistance of Julia Budenz (University of California Press: Berkeley,
1999)
1) You are wholly unaware of what you speak.
2) After 319 years nothing new remains to be said on the subject.
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Uncle Al
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(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
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| User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org" |
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02 Feb 2005 01:19:14 PM |
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
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PAUL JACOBY wrote:
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws of
motion.
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object then
you
must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
Newton, Isaac. 1687, "Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica"
("Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy and his System of the
World"), trans. by A. Motte and revised by F. Cajori (University of
California Press: Berkeley, 1934)
Newton, Isaac. "The Principia: Mathematical Principles of Natural
Philosophy Trans." I. Bernard Cohen and Anne Whitman, with the
assistance of Julia Budenz (University of California Press: Berkeley,
1999)
1) You are wholly unaware of what you speak.
2) After 319 years nothing new remains to be said on the subject.
--
Uncle Al
Pretty much out of it yourself, imbecile Alice.
http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/
Androcles
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| User: "PAUL JACOBY" |
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02 Feb 2005 12:28:43 PM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
PAUL JACOBY wrote:
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws of
motion.
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object then you
must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
Newton, Isaac. 1687, "Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica"
("Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy and his System of the
World"), trans. by A. Motte and revised by F. Cajori (University of
California Press: Berkeley, 1934)
Newton, Isaac. "The Principia: Mathematical Principles of Natural
Philosophy Trans." I. Bernard Cohen and Anne Whitman, with the
assistance of Julia Budenz (University of California Press: Berkeley,
1999)
1) You are wholly unaware of what you speak.
2) After 319 years nothing new remains to be said on the subject.
And yet engineers are telling me that my machine won't work because all
the force developed is inside a container. I say it doesn't matter and
it will work. I find nothing in the translation by Cohen and Whitman
limiting it to outside surface contact only for a container.
I say Newton's laws require movement if the force is applied inside or
outside.
Nothing you have said suggest otherwise.
Who is right?
--
------------------- SOME THOUGHTS --------------------------
"The art of invention is to do what others think impossible"
How do you know if an invention is revolutionary?
Count the experts that say it is impossible.
THINK CAREFULLY -- IT'S DANGEROUS
EXCELLENCE IS ALWAYS HIDDEN IN THE DETAILS pj
pjacoby@charter.net
http://newlifter.tripod.com/
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| User: "Mike" |
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02 Feb 2005 02:26:26 PM |
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PAUL JACOBY wrote:
psnip]
And yet engineers are telling me that my machine won't work because
all
the force developed is inside a container. I say it doesn't matter
and
it will work. I find nothing in the translation by Cohen and Whitman
limiting it to outside surface contact only for a container.
I say Newton's laws require movement if the force is applied inside
or
outside.
Nothing you have said suggest otherwise.
Who is right?
Talk is cheap and you seem to be very generous. Pendulum test:
Hung your machine from a high ceiling and turn it on. Can it stay at a
45 deg angle with the vertical for an extended time without burning
fuel or producing lft using air foils or ionization wind?
You said "Newton's third law is also part of the problem. For ever
force there is an equal and opposite force."
That's not Newtons Third law exactly. The law is: For every action
there is an equal and opposite reaction...
Newton's law applies to a much broder spectrum of actions and reactions
than those produced by forces, i.e. contact or F =dp/dt. Did you say
you got no clue? Forget it. Try the pendulum test and feel the
embarishment that comes along with the denial of the laws of nature.
Mike
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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02 Feb 2005 01:54:14 AM |
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PAUL JACOBY wrote:
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws of
motion.
"NEWTON'S LAWS EXPLAINED:
THE FEASIBILITY OF A CLOSED LIFT PRODUCING MACHINE
The argument against such a machine includes Newton's laws. The
first law is that a body at rest remains at rest until a force acts
upon it. The common belief is that the force must come from outside the
mass and that works well for solid masses. There is a flaw in the
assumption based on our definition of outside. The problem being that a
hollow mass has a peculiar situation of occupying a volume of space but
not filling it. The hollow volume is confused with the mass. It should
be thought of as external to the mass not internal. The simple
condition of surrounding the hollow volume does not make it a part of
the mass. Therefore the "inner" surfaces should be thought of as
external to the mass. The mass of an object never extends beyond it's
surface.
An accurate description of a container could be like this:
A mass of brass measuring 12 inches long by 6 inches diameter excluding
a volume measuring 10 inches long by 4 inches diameter and centered in
all directions within the brass. When a container is described in this
fashion it becomes clear that the volume and any thing in that volume
is not a part of the container and should be thought of as external to
the mass (brass). Unless it is secured (glued, bolted etc.) to the
"inner" wall which makes it a part of the container and requires
adapting the description to fit.
Given this condition it can be seen that a force originating from the
hollow volume could cause movement of the mass (brass) although the
simple geometry of closure causes a limitation of movement. None the
less the container can be moved by an action against the "inner"
surface which is really an external surface and it is not necessary for
the force to come from "outside" the container since the volume is
actually outside (not a part of) the container.
A container can be of any configuration as long as it restricts the
free movement of a substance. It can be open in one place or more. A
cylinder open on both ends is a container. It might be containing air
or water but it is still a container. It might contain a blower and
combustion machines as in the the case of some jet engines. It also
might contain only a blower and be open on both ends.
The nature of a closed container is the same as an open container
except that it is not open to the rest of the world. It can be composed
of several sub compartments which might be open or closed separately.
In fact it can be made with two open containers connected front to back
and back to front. In this fashion the two would still act as open
containers. A fluid would still go in and out of each by the same flow
pattern.
The nature of closure is a real problem of how to construct a machine
to produce lift continuously. Any fluid in it will have two opposing
adjacent surfaces which will neutralize each other. However this
contains an assumption that the adjacent surfaces are stationary in
relation to each other. Which need not be true. It is quite possible to
build an arrangement which will have the two adjacent surfaces moving.
Newton's third law is also part of the problem. For ever force there
is an equal and opposite force. This law is a bit subtle. It has to do
with contact of objects and the force exchanged between them. It
applies to a fluid on a surface. Each molecule is hitting the surface
with a velocity. It is that force exchanged which we measure as
atmospheric pressure or fluid pressure. The fluid pressure on a surface
is also affected by a velocity (wind) of the fluid viewed as a single
mass unit. Bernoulli Principle is about the flow velocity affecting the
pressure on the surface. The flow velocity could be thought of as
giving the fluid molecules a bias all in the same direction thereby
changing the angle of contact and the force exchanged on contact. Thus
the pressure is reduced by increasing the flow velocity.
Taking the larger view of the situation causes some people to say
that Newton requires a force to be pushing down equal to the lift since
the container is closed. The force is there and is redirected by the
velocity of the fluid. It becomes part of the drag on the surface.
Normally in a closed container a gas will exert an approximately
equal force in all directions. This condition is even used as part of
the definition of "gas" but it is not an absolute requirement. The
pressure in a closed container can be different at different locations.
One rather obvious example is a container starting at sea level and
going up a mile high. The pressure inside will clearly be the same as
outside at the same altitude.
Considering that the pressure on the inner surface is a function of
the fluid molecules hitting the surface all that is necessary to create
an uneven (unbalanced) condition is to simply cause the fluid to hit
the surfaces differently. This could be done easily by making two
opposing surfaces move. When a surface and a fluid are moving together
the relative velocity between them is less. Furthermore if the two are
moving in opposing directions the relative velocity between them is
greater. When both conditions are used the lift generated could be
considerable.
In a closed container with both adjacent surfaces stationary the
result is equal pressure in both directions but if both surfaces are
moving in opposing directions then one surface is moving with the flow
and the other surface is moving against the flow which makes different
flow velocities on the opposing surfaces and different pressures.
Therefor it seems possible to construct a machine to produce lift
continuously in the same direction. "
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object then
you
must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
--
------------------- SOME THOUGHTS --------------------------
"The art of invention is to do what others think impossible"
How do you know if an invention is revolutionary?
Count the experts that say it is impossible.
THINK CAREFULLY -- IT'S DANGEROUS
EXCELLENCE IS ALWAYS HIDDEN IN THE DETAILS pj
pjacoby@charter.net
http://newlifter.tripod.com/
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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02 Feb 2005 08:58:48 AM |
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PAUL JACOBY wrote:
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws of
motion.
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object then you
must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
Implicit in the second law is a reference, and motion is always with
respect to something.
Newton's Second Law
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/NewtonsSecondLaw.html
Newton had is right, F = dp/dt is right on!
"The motion of a particle is described by Euler's statement of Newton's
second law, namely
F = ma
Here F is the applied force, m is the mass of the particle, and
a = dv/dt is the particle's acceleration, with v being the particle's
velocity. This equation, together with the principle that bodies act
symmetrically on one another--so that the force particle A feels from
particle B is equal to the force B feels from A--is the basis for
understanding particle dynamics".
"Newton's law completely describes all the phenomena of classical
mechanics...."
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02 Feb 2005 09:20:43 AM |
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Re: Newton's laws
Snip wrong , atoms push them selves.
then you must have a second object i;;;
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Newton had is right, F =3D dp/dt is right on!
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"
F is the gain in mass and up is a gain in mass SAM . M is the wieght
of the atom befor the gain in mass .
Gravity is the energy slope across the atom.
all the mass of the atom falls twards its center.
Atoms change mass at C.
So the tom has more mass falling twards its center from one side than
the other and the atom pushes its self down the energy slope .
V will be the same for evry atom as the mass gain pushes the wieght and
the gain is allways proportinal to the mass.
=A0=A0=A0=A0 SAM =A0=A0wrote
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0F
=3D ma
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Here F is the applied force, m is the mass of the
particle, and =A0 a =3D dv/dt is the particle's acceleration, with v being=
the particle's =A0 velocity. This equation, together with the principle
that bodies act =A0 symmetrically on one another--so that the force
particle A feels from =A0 particle B is equal to the force B feels from
A--is the basis for =A0 understanding particle dynamics".
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"Newton's law completely describes all the phenomena
of classical =A0 mechanics...."
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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02 Feb 2005 09:21:25 AM |
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Re: Newton's laws
Snip wrong , atoms push them selves.
then you must have a second object i;;;
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Newton had is right, F =3D dp/dt is right on!
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"
F is the gain in mass and up is a gain in mass SAM . M is the wieght
of the atom befor the gain in mass .
Gravity is the energy slope across the atom.
all the mass of the atom falls twards its center.
Atoms change mass at C.
So the tom has more mass falling twards its center from one side than
the other and the atom pushes its self down the energy slope .
V will be the same for evry atom as the mass gain pushes the wieght and
the gain is allways proportinal to the mass.
=A0=A0=A0=A0 SAM =A0=A0wrote
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0F
=3D ma
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Here F is the applied force, m is the mass of the
particle, and =A0 a =3D dv/dt is the particle's acceleration, with v being=
the particle's =A0 velocity. This equation, together with the principle
that bodies act =A0 symmetrically on one another--so that the force
particle A feels from =A0 particle B is equal to the force B feels from
A--is the basis for =A0 understanding particle dynamics".
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"Newton's law completely describes all the phenomena
of classical =A0 mechanics...."
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02 Feb 2005 11:46:37 AM |
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What would be new ,,is if you understood.
Atoms pussh them selves down energy slopes.
Re: Newton's laws
The gain in mass is F pushing te wieght of the atom.
=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Newton had is right, F =3D dp/dt is right on!
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"
=A0=A0F is the gain in mass and up is a gain in mass SAM . M is the
wieght
of the atom befor the gain in mass .
=A0=A0Gravity is the energy slope across the atom. all the mass of the
atom falls twards its center. Atoms change mass at C.
=A0=A0So the tom has more mass falling twards its center from one side
than the other and the atom pushes its self down the energy slope .
=A0=A0V will be the same for evry atom as the mass gain pushes the
wieght and the gain is allways proportinal to the mass.
=A0=A0=A0=A0 SAM =A0=A0wrote
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
F
=3D ma
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Here F is the applied force, m is the mass of the
particle, and =A0 a =3D dv/dt is the particle's acceleration, with v being=
the particle's =A0 velocity. This equation, together with the principle
that bodies act =A0 symmetrically on one another--so that the force
particle A feels from =A0 particle B is equal to the force B feels from
A--is the basis for =A0 understanding particle dynamics".
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"Newton's law completely describes all the phenomena
of classical =A0 mechanics...."
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02 Feb 2005 11:03:34 AM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
PAUL JACOBY wrote:
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws of
motion.
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object then
you must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
But the point I want to clarify is, Does it make any difference if the
contact point is what we call an inside surface or an outside surface?
I say no. pj
Implicit in the second law is a reference, and motion is always with
respect to something.
Newton's Second Law
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/NewtonsSecondLaw.html
Newton had is right, F = dp/dt is right on!
"The motion of a particle is described by Euler's statement of Newton's
second law, namely
F = ma
Here F is the applied force, m is the mass of the particle, and
a = dv/dt is the particle's acceleration, with v being the particle's
velocity. This equation, together with the principle that bodies act
symmetrically on one another--so that the force particle A feels from
particle B is equal to the force B feels from A--is the basis for
understanding particle dynamics".
"Newton's law completely describes all the phenomena of classical
mechanics...."
--
------------------- SOME THOUGHTS --------------------------
"The art of invention is to do what others think impossible"
How do you know if an invention is revolutionary?
Count the experts that say it is impossible.
THINK CAREFULLY -- IT'S DANGEROUS
EXCELLENCE IS ALWAYS HIDDEN IN THE DETAILS pj
pjacoby@charter.net
http://newlifter.tripod.com/
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| User: "PD" |
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02 Feb 2005 12:37:57 PM |
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PAUL JACOBY wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
PAUL JACOBY wrote:
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws
of
motion.
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object
then
you must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
But the point I want to clarify is, Does it make any difference if
the
contact point is what we call an inside surface or an outside
surface?
I say no. pj
What about no surface at all, as in magnetic, electrostatic, or
gravitational forces? Hold a ball 2 miles above the Earth's surface and
let go. A force acts on it. Where's the contact point 1 second after
release?
Implicit in the second law is a reference, and motion is always
with
respect to something.
Newton's Second Law
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/NewtonsSecondLaw.html
Newton had is right, F = dp/dt is right on!
"The motion of a particle is described by Euler's statement of
Newton's
second law, namely
F = ma
Here F is the applied force, m is the mass of the particle, and
a = dv/dt is the particle's acceleration, with v being the
particle's
velocity. This equation, together with the principle that bodies
act
symmetrically on one another--so that the force particle A feels
from
particle B is equal to the force B feels from A--is the basis for
understanding particle dynamics".
"Newton's law completely describes all the phenomena of classical
mechanics...."
--
------------------- SOME THOUGHTS --------------------------
"The art of invention is to do what others think impossible"
How do you know if an invention is revolutionary?
Count the experts that say it is impossible.
THINK CAREFULLY -- IT'S DANGEROUS
EXCELLENCE IS ALWAYS HIDDEN IN THE DETAILS pj
pjacoby@charter.net
http://newlifter.tripod.com/
I see you have a patent. Have you demonstrated that the prototype
works?
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| User: "PAUL JACOBY" |
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02 Feb 2005 01:57:24 PM |
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PD wrote:
PAUL JACOBY wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
PAUL JACOBY wrote:
I would like to get some opinions about interpreting Newton's laws
of
motion.
I feel that all he meant was that if you want to move an object
then
you must have a second object involved (to hit it or attract it).
Outside or external means "other than"
But the point I want to clarify is, Does it make any difference if
the
contact point is what we call an inside surface or an outside
surface?
I say no. pj
What about no surface at all, as in magnetic, electrostatic, or
gravitational forces? Hold a ball 2 miles above the Earth's surface and
let go. A force acts on it. Where's the contact point 1 second after
release?
Implicit in the second law is a reference, and motion is always
with
respect to something.
Newton's Second Law
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/NewtonsSecondLaw.html
Newton had is right, F = dp/dt is right on!
"The motion of a particle is described by Euler's statement of
Newton's
second law, namely
F = ma
Here F is the applied force, m is the mass of the particle, and
a = dv/dt is the particle's acceleration, with v being the
particle's
velocity. This equation, together with the principle that bodies
act
symmetrically on one another--so that the force particle A feels
from
particle B is equal to the force B feels from A--is the basis for
understanding particle dynamics".
"Newton's law completely describes all the phenomena of classical
mechanics...."
--
------------------- SOME THOUGHTS --------------------------
"The art of invention is to do what others think impossible"
How do you know if an invention is revolutionary?
Count the experts that say it is impossible.
THINK CAREFULLY -- IT'S DANGEROUS
EXCELLENCE IS ALWAYS HIDDEN IN THE DETAILS pj
pjacoby@charter.net
http://newlifter.tripod.com/
I see you have a patent. Have you demonstrated that the prototype
works?
At least you went to the page to see what I am talking about.
No I haven't built it yet but I am working on it.
In the mean time I need an engineer to calculate size of parts and such
problems. and a machinist to cut them.
Aren't we lucky that president Truman did not say that to Einstein.
--
------------------- SOME THOUGHTS --------------------------
"The art of invention is to do what others think impossible"
How do you know if an invention is revolutionary?
Count the experts that say it is impossible.
THINK CAREFULLY -- IT'S DANGEROUS
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Newton's laws |
02 Feb 2005 12:39:17 PM |
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on Bd we havea coridore and after the turn at the end is a monitor , it
plays back the last 20 seconds when you turn the corner.
You dont expect it if you never saw it.
Its from a prospective tha plays wit the shape of the cordor and you
walking twards it for 20 seconds beside the hold inside the coridoor
250 feet. You get to the end and see down the coridoor and see someone
is walking twrds you. because your allready around the turn you look at
the screen another 5 seconds and something comes over you.
Then comes a moment of dienile ,,' some one you know but not shure who
it is...10 seconds.
10 of he most bizzzar seconds of your life.
Followd by 5 seconds of shock when you figer out who your looking at
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Then in the corner the recorded sound of you turning the corner is
played from the corner.
You look back to see if you are there ,,but your not ,,you look back
at the screen and are not there either ,,its over.
No one has ever not been afected .
If you don't know whats going on the look on your face will prove it
up on the bridge where we recrded it and will play it to evryone and
they love the entertainment.
That panic look ,,the confused look the bizar look then shock when
they turn around but no one is there.
They look back to the screen for mental suport but thats gone too.
Then you get the unexplainable look ..the UFO stare ,,The NO that
cant be look.
It plays fast so it looks like who ever is behind you is moving very
fast .
Youll ***** when you find out its your self behind you.
dream works biult it ..
its soo badd
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