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01 Aug 2005 01:12:32 PM |
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NMR combating terrorists |
I've heard enough of this terrorists stuff on the radio & TV talk
shows. This has been the 3rd show I've heard in the last few weeks
just on radio alone. It now seems almost all the experts investigating
this field say that it is only a matter of time when a terrorist
imports a nuclear bomb or dirty bomb into the U.S. or other countries
and lights it off. What about NMR? After studying it a little it
seems very possible to build a sensitive machine that can detect
uranium and other atoms. I have no idea what materials they can use
for an effective nuclear bomb. How difficult would it be to build such
a machine where the individual stands on a certain spot and the machine
scans for any atoms such as uranium? According to a NMR table, Uranium
receptivity is about a million times less than hydrogen. I guess that
means the EM signal from uranium is about a million times weaker than
hydrogen. Is it still possible if the electronics is sensitive enough?
Perhaps if the device is inside a shielded area such as a faraday
cage.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated ... especially if it's your child
or grand child that your input might one day help save from a nuclear
fall out.
Paul
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| User: "jake" |
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01 Aug 2005 01:59:35 PM |
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<pmlonline@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I've heard enough of this terrorists stuff on the radio & TV talk
shows. This has been the 3rd show I've heard in the last few weeks
just on radio alone. It now seems almost all the experts investigating
this field say that it is only a matter of time when a terrorist
imports a nuclear bomb or dirty bomb into the U.S. or other countries
and lights it off. What about NMR? After studying it a little it
seems very possible to build a sensitive machine that can detect
uranium and other atoms. I have no idea what materials they can use
for an effective nuclear bomb. How difficult would it be to build such
a machine where the individual stands on a certain spot and the machine
scans for any atoms such as uranium? According to a NMR table, Uranium
receptivity is about a million times less than hydrogen. I guess that
means the EM signal from uranium is about a million times weaker than
hydrogen. Is it still possible if the electronics is sensitive enough?
Perhaps if the device is inside a shielded area such as a faraday
cage.
Not to worry, they are already in place.
You can find used ones on ebay at times.
NMR requires too high magnetic field.
Other detection methods do not, far simpler, cheap even.
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01 Aug 2005 02:20:25 PM |
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jake wrote:
NMR requires too high magnetic field.
Other detection methods do not, far simpler, cheap even.
Like what?
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| User: "jake" |
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01 Aug 2005 02:34:18 PM |
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<pmlonline@gmail.com> wrote in message
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jake wrote:
NMR requires too high magnetic field.
Other detection methods do not, far simpler, cheap even.
Like what?
Google is your friend.
How to detect radioactive bad stuff ?
What is radioactivity?
You can build your own for about $100 or so.
Or buy it, Russians had a good one for sale for a while.
Pocket size stuff, battery powered too.
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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01 Aug 2005 02:12:09 PM |
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wrote:
I've heard enough of this terrorists stuff on the radio & TV talk
shows. This has been the 3rd show I've heard in the last few weeks
just on radio alone. It now seems almost all the experts investigating
this field say that it is only a matter of time when a terrorist
imports a nuclear bomb or dirty bomb into the U.S. or other countries
and lights it off. What about NMR? After studying it a little it
seems very possible to build a sensitive machine that can detect
uranium and other atoms.
Idiot. Do you have a few cubic meters of 5-10 tesla perfectly
homogeneous magnetic field? Are ya gonna outlaw ferrous shipping
containers?
I have no idea what materials they can use
for an effective nuclear bomb.
Idiot.
How difficult would it be to build such
a machine where the individual stands on a certain spot and the machine
scans for any atoms such as uranium? According to a NMR table, Uranium
receptivity is about a million times less than hydrogen. I guess that
means the EM signal from uranium is about a million times weaker than
hydrogen. Is it still possible if the electronics is sensitive enough?
Perhaps if the device is inside a shielded area such as a faraday
cage.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated ... especially if it's your child
or grand child that your input might one day help save from a nuclear
fall out.
Paul
You get rid of alligators by killing the hatchery. Don't drive a bung
into the broad end of a funnel.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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01 Aug 2005 05:17:06 PM |
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Fair question from a non physicsist .
Under a vlcc tanker strait from saudi is where Id look.
A small one can get a 2 mb vlcc to burn in less than a day .
The fuel burnt on a smog day is what would do the killing ..
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Carderock Division Headquarters
0500 Mcarture Blvd
Weat betheda Md 20817-5700
Strawman ATT Adm. Thompson
LA cant handle 2 million barrels burnt in one day. LA and aria cant be
evacuated fast.
It could take a small nuke in a container and kill 30,000 , but the
tanker would kill 5 million.
Send a letter .
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| User: "Bili Rubin" |
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01 Aug 2005 06:24:35 PM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Fair question from a non physicsist .
Under a vlcc tanker strait from saudi is where Id look.
A small one can get a 2 mb vlcc to burn in less than a day .
The fuel burnt on a smog day is what would do the killing ..
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Carderock Division Headquarters
0500 Mcarture Blvd
Weat betheda Md 20817-5700
Strawman ATT Adm. Thompson
LA cant handle 2 million barrels burnt in one day. LA and aria cant be
evacuated fast.
It could take a small nuke in a container and kill 30,000 , but the
tanker would kill 5 million.
Send a letter .
FUCKING NUTCASE
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| User: "dalits" |
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03 Aug 2005 10:42:12 PM |
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"Bili Rubin" <address@provider.com> wrote in message
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:8100-42EE9F62-228@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net...
Fair question from a non physicsist .
Under a vlcc tanker strait from saudi is where Id look.
A small one can get a 2 mb vlcc to burn in less than a day .
The fuel burnt on a smog day is what would do the killing ..
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Carderock Division Headquarters
0500 Mcarture Blvd
Weat betheda Md 20817-5700
Strawman ATT Adm. Thompson
LA cant handle 2 million barrels burnt in one day. LA and aria cant be
evacuated fast.
It could take a small nuke in a container and kill 30,000 , but the
tanker would kill 5 million.
Send a letter .
FUCKING NUTCASE
tj Frazir believes that gravity is caused by dropping things.
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| User: "" |
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01 Aug 2005 02:19:13 PM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
pmlonline@gmail.com wrote:
I've heard enough of this terrorists stuff on the radio & TV talk
shows. This has been the 3rd show I've heard in the last few weeks
just on radio alone. It now seems almost all the experts investigating
this field say that it is only a matter of time when a terrorist
imports a nuclear bomb or dirty bomb into the U.S. or other countries
and lights it off. What about NMR? After studying it a little it
seems very possible to build a sensitive machine that can detect
uranium and other atoms.
Idiot. Do you have a few cubic meters of 5-10 tesla perfectly
homogeneous magnetic field? Are ya gonna outlaw ferrous shipping
containers?
I have no idea what materials they can use
for an effective nuclear bomb.
Idiot.
How difficult would it be to build such
a machine where the individual stands on a certain spot and the machine
scans for any atoms such as uranium? According to a NMR table, Uranium
receptivity is about a million times less than hydrogen. I guess that
means the EM signal from uranium is about a million times weaker than
hydrogen. Is it still possible if the electronics is sensitive enough?
Perhaps if the device is inside a shielded area such as a faraday
cage.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated ... especially if it's your child
or grand child that your input might one day help save from a nuclear
fall out.
Paul
You get rid of alligators by killing the hatchery. Don't drive a bung
into the broad end of a funnel.
--
Uncle Al
It's people like you that sicken the public. All you can do is fight
and call people idiot while terrorists are planning to import nuclear
bombs. Try a different approach and think! Maybe you'll find a way.
Personally I like people who believe and try rather than the likes of
your kind!
Paul
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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01 Aug 2005 04:13:04 PM |
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wrote:
Uncle Al wrote:
wrote:
I've heard enough of this terrorists stuff on the radio & TV talk
shows. This has been the 3rd show I've heard in the last few weeks
just on radio alone. It now seems almost all the experts investigating
this field say that it is only a matter of time when a terrorist
imports a nuclear bomb or dirty bomb into the U.S. or other countries
and lights it off. What about NMR? After studying it a little it
seems very possible to build a sensitive machine that can detect
uranium and other atoms.
Idiot. Do you have a few cubic meters of 5-10 tesla perfectly
homogeneous magnetic field? Are ya gonna outlaw ferrous shipping
containers?
I have no idea what materials they can use
for an effective nuclear bomb.
Idiot.
How difficult would it be to build such
a machine where the individual stands on a certain spot and the machine
scans for any atoms such as uranium? According to a NMR table, Uranium
receptivity is about a million times less than hydrogen. I guess that
means the EM signal from uranium is about a million times weaker than
hydrogen. Is it still possible if the electronics is sensitive enough?
Perhaps if the device is inside a shielded area such as a faraday
cage.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated ... especially if it's your child
or grand child that your input might one day help save from a nuclear
fall out.
Paul
You get rid of alligators by killing the hatchery. Don't drive a bung
into the broad end of a funnel.
--
Uncle Al
It's people like you that sicken the public. All you can do is fight
and call people idiot while terrorists are planning to import nuclear
bombs. Try a different approach and think! Maybe you'll find a way.
Personally I like people who believe and try rather than the likes of
your kind!
Uncle Al amends his initial evalaution. You are not an idiot. You
are an idiot Liberal. Who else but an idiot Liberal would
characterize detonation of a nuclear device amidst civilians by a crew
of stateless operatives as not being terrorism?
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "" |
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01 Aug 2005 04:22:38 PM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
It's people like you that sicken the public. All you can do is fight
and call people idiot while terrorists are planning to import nuclear
bombs. Try a different approach and think! Maybe you'll find a way.
Personally I like people who believe and try rather than the likes of
your kind!
Uncle Al amends his initial evalaution. You are not an idiot. You
are an idiot Liberal. Who else but an idiot Liberal would
characterize detonation of a nuclear device amidst civilians by a crew
of stateless operatives as not being terrorism?
Look at your post history. You use the word "idiot" so often that his
zero meaning.
Wake up you nightmare. Where did I say they were not terrorists. You
offer nothing but continuous criticism. I feel sorry for you.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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01 Aug 2005 04:29:24 PM |
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wrote:
Uncle Al wrote:
It's people like you that sicken the public. All you can do is fight
and call people idiot while terrorists are planning to import nuclear
bombs. Try a different approach and think! Maybe you'll find a way.
Personally I like people who believe and try rather than the likes of
your kind!
Uncle Al amends his initial evalaution. You are not an idiot. You
are an idiot Liberal. Who else but an idiot Liberal would
characterize detonation of a nuclear device amidst civilians by a crew
of stateless operatives as not being terrorism?
Look at your post history. You use the word "idiot" so often that his
zero meaning.
Wake up you nightmare. Where did I say they were not terrorists. You
offer nothing but continuous criticism. I feel sorry for you.
Actually Uncle Al has a really good record at nailing idiots! Welcome
the that nailed.
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| User: "" |
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01 Aug 2005 04:34:20 PM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
Actually Uncle Al has a really good record at nailing idiots! Welcome
the that nailed.
Pal, I can outthink you and al combined any time. You're child in my
eyes.
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| User: "jabara" |
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01 Aug 2005 05:21:44 PM |
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<pmlonline@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sam Wormley wrote:
Actually Uncle Al has a really good record at nailing idiots! Welcome
the that nailed.
Pal, I can outthink you and al combined any time. You're child in my
eyes.
Reverting to ones childhood during scientific discussions is an indicator
that you were over exposed to magnetic fields when you were a child, perhaps
your mommy left you inside a NMR stuck on super strong, and forgot about you
for a few days. (at least it wasn't an X-ray machine(?)) Do magnetic things
stick to you? Do you remember getting pulled out by your feet? Perhaps one
or all of your dental fillings are currently magnetized. You can check this
by getting a compass and see if it always points toward your teeth. If I am
wrong on this, nevermind. (seriously, sometimes ebay has detection devices,
cheap, why talk about it, when you can really build one)
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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01 Aug 2005 04:39:43 PM |
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wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
Actually Uncle Al has a really good record at nailing idiots! Welcome
the that nailed.
Pal, I can outthink you and al combined any time. You're child in my
eyes.
We Gotcha! Spoken like a true crackpot! Seriously though, you seem
to be worried that efforts aren't being taken to thwart devices of
terror.
We would be far better off (and more secure) by not pissing off the
rest of the world by our arrogance, greed and unfair practices. Think
about it... we share one fragile planet. The US could be much friendlier
to all peoples and cultures and benefit in the process.
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| User: "" |
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01 Aug 2005 05:35:51 PM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
We Gotcha! Spoken like a true crackpot! Seriously though, you seem
to be worried that efforts aren't being taken to thwart devices of
terror.
Crackpot, lol. You have no idea what I've accomplished. I just single
handedly spent two months writing software that is rated better than
completing software written by corporations. Such corporations have
been working on and improving their software over the last decade.
There software download is several megabytes. Mine is 144 KB. All
other competing software has less features. What are the odds that I
could do that and beat dozens of other companies, single handedly?
We would be far better off (and more secure) by not pissing off the
rest of the world by our arrogance, greed and unfair practices. Think
about it... we share one fragile planet. The US could be much friendlier
to all peoples and cultures and benefit in the process.
You're speaking to the choir pal. I detested from day one when my
country attacked (preemptive strike) Iraq. For the life of me I cannot
understand how Bush thought this was going to solve problems. Can't he
clearly see how the Middle East has fought for 1000's of years. It's
circular; i.e., you hit me so I'll hit you. Did he think he could wipe
out an entire race of people because even that will not work. THEY
DON'T WANT US ON THEIR LAND! Bush, get your clammy hands out of their
oil and off their land. Now our children for who knows how many
generations will have to pay dearly.
Now the worlds view of U.S. is poor. Foreigners are less willing to
buy American. I am sorry but I have to say it -> American the Idiot!
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| User: "jabara" |
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01 Aug 2005 06:17:20 PM |
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<pmlonline@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sam Wormley wrote:
Crackpot, lol. You have no idea what I've accomplished. I just single
handedly spent two months writing software that is rated better than
completing software written by corporations. Such corporations have
been working on and improving their software over the last decade.
Donkey Kong?
There software download is several megabytes. Mine is 144 KB. All
other competing software has less features. What are the odds that I
could do that and beat dozens of other companies, single handedly?
In your childish eyes, none.
We would be far better off (and more secure) by not pissing off the
rest of the world by our arrogance, greed and unfair practices. Think
about it... we share one fragile planet. The US could be much
friendlier
to all peoples and cultures and benefit in the process.
You're speaking to the choir pal. I detested from day one when my
country attacked (preemptive strike) Iraq.
Liberal hippy Social Democrat http://www.cpusa.org/
For the life of me I cannot
understand how Bush thought this was going to solve problems. Can't he
clearly see how the Middle East has fought for 1000's of years.
It is just Oil. That is it. We get control of the Oil, France, Russia,
Germany do not.
Better they starve then we do. Bush did great.
It's
circular; i.e., you hit me so I'll hit you.
Nope, I hit you first and so hard you wont ever hit back, ever.
Did he think he could wipe
out an entire race of people because even that will not work.
What race? There are at least 6 races, and I thought you were discussing
NMR?
THEY
DON'T WANT US ON THEIR LAND!
So what? If there is to be a war, it will be in their homes in IRAQ not in
ours in the USA.
So, Liberal SD Hippy troll fails at NMR and goes to Iraq War.
Study up on DU my friend, and don't inhale (as Bill Clinton says)
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01 Aug 2005 07:03:06 PM |
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jabara wrote:
It's
circular; i.e., you hit me so I'll hit you.
Nope, I hit you first and so hard you wont ever hit back, ever.
I feel sorry for you and your 1D thinking capability. People like you
are going to destroy this planet. You are an idiot. You kill one and
then you ***** off and create two more terrorist. You are naive if you
think your warring ways will create peace.
In my eyes I see your weak mind and on that note, Plunk!
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| User: "jabara" |
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01 Aug 2005 08:15:50 PM |
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<pmlonline@gmail.com> wrote in message
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jabara wrote:
It's
circular; i.e., you hit me so I'll hit you.
Nope, I hit you first and so hard you wont ever hit back, ever.
I feel sorry for you and your 1D thinking capability. People like you
are going to destroy this planet.
We learned that from WWII.
We should have snuffed Hitler right in the beginning.
Same with Saddam
You kill one and
then you ***** off and create two more terrorist.
Terrorists are fleas, you are the infested dog, and I am the Flea Soap.
You are naive if you
think your warring ways will create peace.
Depends upon who wins. War Is Peace.
In my eyes I see your weak mind and on that note, Plunk!
I see your inexperienced mime and it is * PLONK * not Plunk.
Plunk is when you hit a really really fat man in the tummy and you can't get
your fist out.
Whot happened to NMR?
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| User: "dalits" |
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03 Aug 2005 10:38:23 PM |
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"jabara" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
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<pmlonline@gmail.com> wrote in message
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People like you
are going to destroy this planet.
Whot happened to NMR?
NMR stands for No More Racists
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| User: "" |
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01 Aug 2005 09:05:12 PM |
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In article <zEwHe.211804$_o.91718@attbi_s71>, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> writes:
pmlonline@gmail.com wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
Actually Uncle Al has a really good record at nailing idiots! Welcome
the that nailed.
Pal, I can outthink you and al combined any time. You're child in my
eyes.
We Gotcha! Spoken like a true crackpot! Seriously though, you seem
to be worried that efforts aren't being taken to thwart devices of
terror.
We would be far better off (and more secure) by not pissing off the
rest of the world by our arrogance, greed and unfair practices. Think
about it... we share one fragile planet. The US could be much friendlier
to all peoples and cultures and benefit in the process.
Angling for PC brownie points, I see.
Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
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| User: "Math Freak" |
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02 Aug 2005 12:40:10 PM |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 02:05:12 GMT,
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
Angling for PC brownie points, I see.
Hmm. You still have same fears. When are you ZioNazis
going to become and join humans? No, angling for YOUR
***** is not PC.
Being sensible is as good as going where your ZioNazi
future doesn't exist.
Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
"No Lord but Jehovah; no tax but that of the Temple; no
friend but the Zealots."
--
"If a porn-star is a star, Israel is a State."
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| User: "dalits" |
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03 Aug 2005 10:39:37 PM |
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"Math Freak" <MathFreak@FakeAddress.com> wrote in message
news:1kgktx7ge651w.eohe9iq4zjru$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 02:05:12 GMT,
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
Angling for PC brownie points, I see.
Tuna for you
Hmm. You still have same fears. When are you ZioNazis
going to become and join humans? No, angling for YOUR
***** is not PC.
PC= Pickelass Cockroach ?
Being sensible is as good as going where your ZioNazi
future doesn't exist.
you must be an arab.
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01 Aug 2005 02:33:33 PM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
pmlonline@gmail.com wrote:
I've heard enough of this terrorists stuff on the radio & TV talk
shows. This has been the 3rd show I've heard in the last few weeks
just on radio alone. It now seems almost all the experts investigating
this field say that it is only a matter of time when a terrorist
imports a nuclear bomb or dirty bomb into the U.S. or other countries
and lights it off. What about NMR? After studying it a little it
seems very possible to build a sensitive machine that can detect
uranium and other atoms.
Idiot. Do you have a few cubic meters of 5-10 tesla perfectly
homogeneous magnetic field? Are ya gonna outlaw ferrous shipping
containers?
Personally I think people like you should be watched. You don't need
5-10 tesla idiot. Think Al, think! Have you ever heard of taking
multiple samples? Hello! Do you know anything about signal
processing? Idiot!
I have no idea what materials they can use
for an effective nuclear bomb.
Idiot.
Demon!
How difficult would it be to build such
a machine where the individual stands on a certain spot and the machine
scans for any atoms such as uranium? According to a NMR table, Uranium
receptivity is about a million times less than hydrogen. I guess that
means the EM signal from uranium is about a million times weaker than
hydrogen. Is it still possible if the electronics is sensitive enough?
Perhaps if the device is inside a shielded area such as a faraday
cage.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated ... especially if it's your child
or grand child that your input might one day help save from a nuclear
fall out.
Paul
You get rid of alligators by killing the hatchery. Don't drive a bung
into the broad end of a funnel.
Use your brain. 2D thinkers like you is why terrorists are
terrorizing. Be creative. Geee, lets not use leading technology to
detect nuclear devices. Lets just forget about it and try to kill
every Muslim in the world. Walking zombie!
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02 Aug 2005 09:00:04 AM |
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In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
on 1 Aug 2005 12:33:33 -0700
<1122924813.116171.235750@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:
Uncle Al wrote:
wrote:
I've heard enough of this terrorists stuff on the radio & TV talk
shows. This has been the 3rd show I've heard in the last few weeks
just on radio alone. It now seems almost all the experts investigating
this field say that it is only a matter of time when a terrorist
imports a nuclear bomb or dirty bomb into the U.S. or other countries
and lights it off. What about NMR? After studying it a little it
seems very possible to build a sensitive machine that can detect
uranium and other atoms.
Idiot. Do you have a few cubic meters of 5-10 tesla perfectly
homogeneous magnetic field? Are ya gonna outlaw ferrous shipping
containers?
Personally I think people like you should be watched. You don't need
5-10 tesla idiot. Think Al, think! Have you ever heard of taking
multiple samples? Hello! Do you know anything about signal
processing? Idiot!
[1] How many tesla would one need?
[2] Signal processing may involve a time/quality tradeoff. What
parameters of time, false positives, false *negatives*, and
power consumption are you envisioning here?
[3] As far as I can tell, there are at least two forms of
shipping container:
5898 mm x 2352 mm x 2393 mm (19'4" x 7'9" x 7'10")
2300 kg weight for the container
max 28180 kg weight for the payload
max 30480 kg gross
12032 mm x 2352 mm x 2393 mm (39'6" x 7'9" x 7'10")
3750 kg weight for the container
max 28750 kg weight for the payload
max 32500 kg gross
There's some tolerance.
There's mention of a hicube (9'6") and a halfheight as well.
Presumably, one has to design a system to cover all
of these containers; the amount of plutonium required
to manufacture a bomb is on the order of the size
of a large backpack, mostly to keep the ingredients
separated until ready for baking everything within a
10-mile radius -- or just causing everyone to panic as
the unit, say, spews radioactive pulverized plutonium
into the air with a compressed air jet. Of course,
if that's *within* the container the best it can do
is contaminate the container's contents.
Were I a nasty so-and-so I'd try to coat the plutonium
with sugar or other such water-soluble materials,
to avoid fission during storage. (There's a *lot* of
issues here, and getting more than a few microounces
of the stuff would be extremely difficult anyway.
I'd expect Al Qaeda would have some major problems
doing it right, but not much problem doing it wrong,
although ideally they'd blow themselves up in the
attempt. [One can hope! ;-) ])
[4] According to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (figures! :-) )
South Louisana handles 200 million tons a year, or
100,000 tons or 91,000 metric tonnes an hour (assuming
40-hour 5-day workweeks), That's at least 50 shipping
containers a minute.
http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/2005/html/table_01_51.html
Other ports are similarly sized; South Louisiana merely happens
to be top dog at the moment. :-)
In light of such considerations it might be simpler to require
that each ship and each container be coated with film emulsion
that turns black upon exposure to radiation. However, I
don't know if that'll succeed, either.
[5] Consumer's Risk and Producer's Risk statistical laws may apply,
if one uses sampling.
I have no idea what materials they can use
for an effective nuclear bomb.
Idiot.
Demon!
There's a fair number of nasty devices one can contemplate;
the actual plutonium bomb (a la Fat Man or Little Boy)
would require quite a bit of technology, but an irradiator
or spewer device is a little simpler, requiring little more
than a method to mix the stuff with the air, and the stuff
itself. Atomizers have been known for centuries (primarily
in perfume and liquid sprays, admittedly) and painting
sprayers are available readily enough. Or one can simply
coat a standard (?) I.H.E. unit with some sort of paste.
Even a catapult with a payload of radioactive sand and a
timer would give the authorities pause.
How difficult would it be to build such
a machine where the individual stands on a certain spot and the machine
scans for any atoms such as uranium? According to a NMR table, Uranium
receptivity is about a million times less than hydrogen. I guess that
means the EM signal from uranium is about a million times weaker than
hydrogen. Is it still possible if the electronics is sensitive enough?
Perhaps if the device is inside a shielded area such as a faraday
cage.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated ... especially if it's your child
or grand child that your input might one day help save from a nuclear
fall out.
Paul
You get rid of alligators by killing the hatchery. Don't drive a bung
into the broad end of a funnel.
Or by transmutating them into butterflies or horses -- if
such is possible. :-)
Use your brain. 2D thinkers like you is why terrorists are
terrorizing. Be creative. Geee, lets not use leading technology to
detect nuclear devices. Lets just forget about it and try to kill
every Muslim in the world. Walking zombie!
And precisely where is the terrorism coming from? Even the most
crazed Christians might have blown up a few churches -- mostly in
the early 60's. However, the crazed Muslims seem to be far more
in number. I don't know why but there's a root cause, somewhere.
I'm hoping we can solve it.
Hate, however, serves a useful purpose (otherwise why would we still
have it from millions of years ago?). I can't say I like it, but
it's there. I like its effects even less; unfortunately, one of them
is martyrdom.
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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Wow, did I actually find the second sober person in sci.physics.pub?
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
[1] How many tesla would one need?
It depends on many factors such as what element(s) you are scanner for
and how sensitive you are able to make the scanning hardware.
There is guy who created a device that measures the earths magnetic
field. It's not a big discovery or anything, but it shows what even a
*little* amount of cleverness can create. So how many Teslas does it
require? Try 1/20000 of a Tesla. Sure, there are the magnetizing
coils that first align the magnetic moments, but that does not need to
be at any fixed strength. It is the magnetic field of earth that
changes the frequency from the hydrogen in the bottle of water that he
uses. If the magnetizing coils generate less current that only means
the EM that comes from the hydrogen will less. So he has a magnetizing
coil on the outside. Inside is a bottle of water that is wrapped
inside a receiving coil. He magnetizes the outside coil and then
releases it. This aligns some of the protons and when this field is
released then some of the protons realign back to the earths magnetic
field or some align in random positions. Anyhow, this realignment
generates the EM that varies according the earths magnetic field, which
is ~1/20000 of a Tesla.
[2] Signal processing may involve a time/quality tradeoff. What
parameters of time, false positives, false *negatives*, and
power consumption are you envisioning here?
Now you want me to give out the secret? How do you think the U.S.
government would think if China or better yet Iran learns of it. I
know that's not what you want to hear ... who wouldn't. If you people
can provide help in the area of NMR or if you have a better way of
detecting the element type then I'll take care of the software end.
Here is what I can presently do with my software breakthrough and my
limited knowledge of physics ->
~~~~~~~
There are two designs. Design #1 can aquire a 3D image of the area
from just one 180 degree rotation of the devices antennas. Design #2
can aquire a 3D image from just 256 * 180 degree rotations of the
devices antenna. In design #1 we can get various false artifacts
imbedded in the 3D image. Basically this is caused by ground that
contains large changes in ground type. For example, if the antenna is
right over a split in ground type that goes from say granite to sand.
Although design #2 takes say 256 times longer to scan the area, it
creates a clear 3D image. The number 256 is based on the desired
resolution in the longitude vector of the 3D image. So if you wanted a
resolution of 512 then it would take 512 times longer. In both designs
the device generates a known signal of pulses. The time between each
pulse varies and is a known time delay. This time delay that varies
between each pulse is signal code I was talking about. The software
sends out a known signal of so-called 1's and 0's; e.g.,
1101010001100100111111001101010001110010101. The longer the signal is
the better the software can hear the incoming EM reflection. It seems
most people in this thread cannot believe that any device could receive
a reflected signal that reversed through 10's of thousands of feet
through solid earth at say 100MHz much less 10GHz. At 10GHz most will
tell you that signal does not penetrate the earth very deep at all--
few inches. That is an incorrect way of thinking. Perhaps at 10GHz
99% of the signal is absorbed and reflected in the first foot, but at
10 feet there is still a fraction of a % of the signal and at 10000
feet there is still a fraction of the signal. Remember, the software
can pick up on the faintest signal amongst a sea of noise. The
incoming signal may be 1 millionth of the ADC's single bit-- it doesn't
matter. As long as there is noise in the ADC input then the software
can pick up on as small of signal as it wishes. So in that sense,
noise helps. :-) On the other hand the computer does have limitations
such as memory. For example, obviously it would be very time consuming
for the software to utilize a signal code that's say 1E+14 bits.
That's a lot of memory. In such a case the software would have to use
some type of memory such as a huge real of memory tape rather than fast
RAM. The more time the software has to sample the signal then the
better it can hear the signal. Also the stronger the emitted signal
obviously equates to a stronger received signal.
The EM frequencies used depends on the situation. Obviously lower
frequencies traverse better through solid matter, but it requires more
time to generate a 3D of the same resolution. Believe it or not, the
wavelength of the radio is not a limitation of resolution. For
example, such a device could generate a 3D picture down to 1mm in
resolution with a radio wavelength of 1000mm.
~~~~~~~
BTW, the above mentioned designs are not NMR. It is leading edge GPR
that has not yet been released to the public ... and may never be
released to the public for a long time for security reasons. With such
technology one could remote view a building that is miles away. On the
other hand, such technology would pier inside the earth for 10's of
miles. It could find a person buried inside any rubble. The
technology can be used with any wave from sound to gamma rays. You
could plug it into a visible light microscope and see far smaller
objects than the visible wavelength. Such technology could map the
solar system of objects. You could see inside planets, etc.
(There's a *lot* of issues here, and getting more than a few microounces
of the stuff would be extremely difficult anyway.
I'd expect Al Qaeda would have some major problems
doing it right, but not much problem doing it wrong,
although ideally they'd blow themselves up in the
attempt. [One can hope! ;-) ])
Al Qaeda has the same philosophy as China as far as patience. I think
they learned long ago that a rushed job doesn't pay off. They have
TIME on there side. Thankfully you scientists also have time on your
side. PLEASE, get to work and start thinking. I am also working on
this, but I have not taken the years of my life to study science, just
computer programming and some basic science. I am pretty darn good at
classical EM though.
[4] According to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (figures! :-) )
South Louisana handles 200 million tons a year, or
100,000 tons or 91,000 metric tonnes an hour (assuming
40-hour 5-day workweeks), That's at least 50 shipping
containers a minute.
That is no problem. Five scanners that takes 5 seconds per scan could
keep up with that flow. So say 10 scanners would do great and result
in no delay, unless the scanner finds illegal material.
So could you confirm the following? That is, is it true that there's
matter that can be used in a dirty bomb that is not radioactive. If
that is true then obviously radio active sensors will not work. In
such a case then NMR scanners would work.
Paul
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02 Aug 2005 12:13:38 PM |
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<pmlonline@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1122998330.319950.149760@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Wow, did I actually find the second sober person in sci.physics.pub?
This is sci.physics. And you ain't sober.
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
[1] How many tesla would one need?
It depends on many factors such as what element(s) you are scanner for
and how sensitive you are able to make the scanning hardware.
There is guy who created a device that measures the earths magnetic
field.
Called a compass.
It's not a big discovery or anything, but it shows what even a
*little* amount of cleverness can create. So how many Teslas does it
require? Try 1/20000 of a Tesla. Sure, there are the magnetizing
coils that first align the magnetic moments, but that does not need to
be at any fixed strength. It is the magnetic field of earth that
changes the frequency from the hydrogen in the bottle of water that he
uses. If the magnetizing coils generate less current that only means
the EM that comes from the hydrogen will less. So he has a magnetizing
coil on the outside. Inside is a bottle of water that is wrapped
inside a receiving coil. He magnetizes the outside coil and then
releases it. This aligns some of the protons and when this field is
released then some of the protons realign back to the earths magnetic
field or some align in random positions. Anyhow, this realignment
generates the EM that varies according the earths magnetic field, which
is ~1/20000 of a Tesla.
Swallow some cow magnets.
[2] Signal processing may involve a time/quality tradeoff. What
parameters of time, false positives, false *negatives*, and
power consumption are you envisioning here?
Now you want me to give out the secret? How do you think the U.S.
government would think if China or better yet Iran learns of it. I
know that's not what you want to hear ... who wouldn't. If you people
can provide help in the area of NMR
NMR = Nitwit Mental Retard
or if you have a better way of
detecting the element type then I'll take care of the software end.
Here is what I can presently do with my software breakthrough and my
limited knowledge of physics ->
~~~~~~~
There are two designs. Design #1 can aquire a 3D image of the area
from just one 180 degree rotation of the devices antennas. Design #2
can aquire a 3D image from just 256 * 180 degree rotations of the
devices antenna. In design #1 we can get various false artifacts
imbedded in the 3D image. Basically this is caused by ground that
contains large changes in ground type. For example, if the antenna is
right over a split in ground type that goes from say granite to sand.
Although design #2 takes say 256 times longer to scan the area, it
creates a clear 3D image. The number 256 is based on the desired
resolution in the longitude vector of the 3D image. So if you wanted a
resolution of 512 then it would take 512 times longer. In both designs
the device generates a known signal of pulses. The time between each
pulse varies and is a known time delay. This time delay that varies
between each pulse is signal code I was talking about. The software
sends out a known signal of so-called 1's and 0's; e.g.,
1101010001100100111111001101010001110010101. The longer the signal is
the better the software can hear the incoming EM reflection.
up to a point, then it is quite limited
It seems
most people in this thread cannot believe that any device could receive
a reflected signal that reversed through 10's of thousands of feet
through solid earth at say 100MHz much less 10GHz. At 10GHz most will
tell you that signal does not penetrate the earth very deep at all--
few inches. That is an incorrect way of thinking. Perhaps at 10GHz
99% of the signal is absorbed and reflected in the first foot, but at
10 feet there is still a fraction of a % of the signal and at 10000
feet there is still a fraction of the signal.
The attenuation is about 2,356 dB with salts.
Remember, the software
can pick up on the faintest signal amongst a sea of noise. The
incoming signal may be 1 millionth of the ADC's single bit-- it doesn't
matter. As long as there is noise in the ADC input then the software
can pick up on as small of signal as it wishes.
WRONG. If the signal can't change a single bit ever, how can it be detected
?
So in that sense,
noise helps. :-)
Noise never helps.
On the other hand the computer does have limitations
such as memory. For example, obviously it would be very time consuming
for the software to utilize a signal code that's say 1E+14 bits.
That's a lot of memory. In such a case the software would have to use
some type of memory such as a huge real of memory tape rather than fast
RAM. The more time the software has to sample the signal then the
better it can hear the signal. Also the stronger the emitted signal
obviously equates to a stronger received signal.
The EM frequencies used depends on the situation. Obviously lower
frequencies traverse better through solid matter, but it requires more
time to generate a 3D of the same resolution. Believe it or not, the
wavelength of the radio is not a limitation of resolution. For
example, such a device could generate a 3D picture down to 1mm in
resolution with a radio wavelength of 1000mm.
WRONG. How big is the antenna?
~~~~~~~
BTW, the above mentioned designs are not NMR. It is leading edge GPR
that has not yet been released to the public ... and may never be
released to the public for a long time for security reasons.
GPR is well known, you can go buy a unit that fits on the back of a jeep.
With such
technology one could remote view a building that is miles away.
So can Binoculars.
On the
other hand, such technology would pier inside the earth for 10's of
miles.
That is 1/100 of a mile.
It could find a person buried inside any rubble. The
technology can be used with any wave from sound to gamma rays.
You must have a PHD in Physics.
You
could plug it into a visible light microscope and see far smaller
objects than the visible wavelength. Such technology could map the
solar system of objects. You could see inside planets, etc.
(There's a *lot* of issues here, and getting more than a few
microounces
of the stuff would be extremely difficult anyway.
I'd expect Al Qaeda would have some major problems
doing it right, but not much problem doing it wrong,
although ideally they'd blow themselves up in the
attempt. [One can hope! ;-) ])
Al Qaeda has the same philosophy as China as far as patience. I think
they learned long ago that a rushed job doesn't pay off. They have
TIME on there side. Thankfully you scientists also have time on your
side. PLEASE, get to work and start thinking. I am also working on
this, but I have not taken the years of my life to study science, just
computer programming and some basic science. I am pretty darn good at
classical EM though.
What does EM stand for?
[4] According to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (figures! :-) )
South Louisana handles 200 million tons a year, or
100,000 tons or 91,000 metric tonnes an hour (assuming
40-hour 5-day workweeks), That's at least 50 shipping
containers a minute.
That is no problem. Five scanners that takes 5 seconds per scan could
keep up with that flow. So say 10 scanners would do great and result
in no delay, unless the scanner finds illegal material.
The x-ray glasses found in the back of comic books.
So could you confirm the following? That is, is it true that there's
matter that can be used in a dirty bomb that is not radioactive. If
that is true then obviously radio active sensors will not work. In
such a case then NMR scanners would work.
You mean a clean dirty bomb?
Paul
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02 Aug 2005 01:21:49 PM |
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LOL, you know, I don't read all of your posts anymore but rather just
scan over then now. I'll reply so that perhaps you can acknowledge
that you have a weak mind and move on in life. Just live with it.
jabara wrote:
Remember, the software
can pick up on the faintest signal amongst a sea of noise. The
incoming signal may be 1 millionth of the ADC's single bit-- it doesn't
matter. As long as there is noise in the ADC input then the software
can pick up on as small of signal as it wishes.
WRONG. If the signal can't change a single bit ever, how can it be detected ?
Look, I'll spell it out for you ->
Here is the output from ADC of some signal noise:
132
125
128
129
134
130
122
131
137
121
That is only 10 samples, which adds up to 1289. 1289 / 10.00 is 128.9.
In math, how many digits accuracy do you have if you have 1289 divided
by 10.00? You can do it little boy! A value of 128 represents an
input signal of zero. We bias the input so that no signal equals an
ADC value of 128. Anyhow, the point is that the more samples we take
the closer the average comes to 128, which is 0 volts input. Now as an
example lets say that after 1 million samples the average is
128.000001. Now dummy, what happens if we add a static value of 0.1?
Huh big boy? First big boy lets learn how the ADC works. Take the
first sample of 132. There is a threshold input that will change the
ADC from 132 to 133. In other words, if the signal is at that
threshold then it may take a fraction of a signal to change to ADC
value from 132 to 133. You comprehend dumbo? You know how to write a
computer program dumbo? Why don't you try it yourself so you can see
how weak your mind is. So now lets apply a static voltage to the ADC
that equates to value of 0.1. So dumbo with weak mind say, "Heeeey,
you can't have a fraction of a value from an ADC!!! He He He" Any
intelligent mind could see that averaging will give you higher
accuracy, but dumbo can't see very deep in his mind so I'll spell it
out for you. The extra applied voltage is one tenth of a value. So
what is the probability of one of our numbers from the noise signal
increasing 1 number? Answer -> one in ten dumbo. You still can't see
it dumbo? Lets take the first number, 132. Lets hook an accurate ADC
to it. So it is 132.32. So if we add the 0.1 it is 132.42. So the
ADC value doesn't change and it remains 132 dumbo. Lets say that after
analyzing 10 numbers that there is only one that changes. Lets say it
was 122. So our accurate ADC shows it was 122.93. If we add our
static value of 0.1 it changes to 123.03. So the ADC gives us a value
of 123. Can your weak mind understand that dumbo.
It's all right, don't feel bad about yourself. Most people have weak
minds like you, but again they are not in the science industry. Now go
away, please!
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02 Aug 2005 04:19:34 PM |
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<pmlonline@gmail.com> wrote in message
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LOL, you know, I don't read all of your posts anymore but rather just
scan over then now. I'll reply so that perhaps you can acknowledge
that you have a weak mind and move on in life. Just live with it.
Your ego is exceeded only by your shoe size.
jabara wrote:
Remember, the software
can pick up on the faintest signal amongst a sea of noise. The
incoming signal may be 1 millionth of the ADC's single bit-- it
doesn't
matter. As long as there is noise in the ADC input then the software
can pick up on as small of signal as it wishes.
WRONG. If the signal can't change a single bit ever, how can it be
detected ?
Look, I'll spell it out for you ->
Here is the output from ADC of some signal noise:
132
125
128
129
134
130
122
131
137
121
That is only 10 samples, which adds up to 1289. 1289 / 10.00 is 128.9.
Nope, you have to discard the 0.9 as your orgional number set did not have
that accuracy, you just assumed a 0.0 on the end of each one.
132.0
125.0
....
and so on. It could have been 0.9 on each one,
132.9
125.9
.....
So your answer is wrong, and the answer is within the range of 128 to 129,
could be 128.6548675 but we cannot determine that.
In math, how many digits accuracy do you have if you have 1289 divided
by 10.00? You can do it little boy! >A value of 128 represents an
input signal of zero. We bias the input so that no signal equals an
ADC value of 128. Anyhow, the point is that the more samples we take
the closer the average comes to 128, which is 0 volts input.
Look up the Weak Law of Large Numbers.
Now as an
example lets say that after 1 million samples the average is
128.000001. Now dummy, what happens if we add a static value of 0.1?
Nothing. What is the variance of the process?
Huh big boy? First big boy lets learn how the ADC works.
analog to digital converter, I have designed with many of them.
Look up the Weak Law of Large Numbers. You are "cooking up" precision you
do not have.
Take the
first sample of 132. There is a threshold input that will change the
ADC from 132 to 133. In other words, if the signal is at that
threshold then it may take a fraction of a signal to change to ADC
value from 132 to 133. You comprehend dumbo? You know how to write a
computer program dumbo? Why don't you try it yourself so you can see
how weak your mind is. So now lets apply a static voltage to the ADC
that equates to value of 0.1. So dumbo with weak mind say, "Heeeey,
you can't have a fraction of a value from an ADC!!! He He He" Any
intelligent mind could see that averaging will give you higher
accuracy, but dumbo can't see very deep in his mind so I'll spell it
out for you. The extra applied voltage is one tenth of a value. So
what is the probability of one of our numbers from the noise signal
increasing 1 number? Answer -> one in ten dumbo. You still can't see
it dumbo? Lets take the first number, 132. Lets hook an accurate ADC
to it. So it is 132.32. So if we add the 0.1 it is 132.42. So the
ADC value doesn't change and it remains 132 dumbo. Lets say that after
analyzing 10 numbers that there is only one that changes. Lets say it
was 122. So our accurate ADC shows it was 122.93. If we add our
static value of 0.1 it changes to 123.03. So the ADC gives us a value
of 123. Can your weak mind understand that dumbo.
I don't know what dumbo means, except your mommy always called you that,
"Hey, you little weak minded dumbo, get your ars over here and finish your
math homework" but you didn't do that did you? And now as a result of
ignoring your own mommy, you know little about numeric precision, accuracy,
or statistics. Nothing personal. (The ADC really has nothing to do with the
problem, but it is your way of thinking through it.)
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02 Aug 2005 07:50:17 PM |
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jabara wrote:
Look, I'll spell it out for you ->
Here is the output from ADC of some signal noise:
132
125
128
129
134
130
122
131
137
121
That is only 10 samples, which adds up to 1289. 1289 / 10.00 is 128.9.
Nope, you have to discard the 0.9 as your orgional number set did not have
that accuracy, you just assumed a 0.0 on the end of each one.
132.0
125.0
...
and so on. It could have been 0.9 on each one,
132.9
125.9
....
Child, you didn't read. I'll even quote myself dumbo, "So it is
132.32. So if we add the 0.1 it is 132.42. So the ADC value doesn't
change and it remains 132 dumbo. Lets say that after analyzing 10
numbers that there is only one that changes. Lets say it was 122. So
our accurate ADC shows it was 122.93. If we add our static value of
0.1 it changes to 123.03."
Go back to Taco Bell and retire in science weak mind.
So your answer is wrong, and the answer is within the range of 128 to 129,
could be 128.6548675 but we cannot determine that.
Idiot! Idiot! Geez you are stupid. Again, see the quote of myself
above. The values summed up are from the ADC idiot, LOL.
In math, how many digits accuracy do you have if you have 1289 divided
by 10.00? You can do it little boy! >A value of 128 represents an
input signal of zero. We bias the input so that no signal equals an
ADC value of 128. Anyhow, the point is that the more samples we take
the closer the average comes to 128, which is 0 volts input.
Look up the Weak Law of Large Numbers.
Idiot! Go ahead and say it so everyone will know what an idiot you
are. So jabara says that 1289 / 10.00 is not accurate to four digits.
You're a joke with a weak mind. I've done this many times child.
Now as an
example lets say that after 1 million samples the average is
128.000001. Now dummy, what happens if we add a static value of 0.1?
Nothing. What is the variance of the process?
Duh, little boy is wrong again. Try building it idiot!
Huh big boy? First big boy lets learn how the ADC works.
analog to digital converter, I have designed with many of them.
Look up the Weak Law of Large Numbers. You are "cooking up" precision you
do not have.
LOL, give an example little boy. You sure talk out your "you know
what" a lot. And for what? The sake of saving face? Why don't we put
some $ on it little boy? The more averages I take the closer it gets
to zero. Listen dumbo, I have done it many times. Go back to flipping
burgers. Idiot!
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| User: "jabara" |
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| Title: Re: NMR combating terrorists |
02 Aug 2005 08:07:55 PM |
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<pmlonline@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123030217.321884.124990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Child with mind weakness, you didn't read did you? could'nt understand it
could you? Bad troll! It is your own fault you know nothing of numerical
percision, that is why you get into arguments all the time, like you did at
grade school.
So your answer is wrong, and the answer is within the range of 128 to
129,
could be 128.6548675 but we cannot determine that.
Idiot! Idiot! Geez you are stupid. Again, see the quote of myself
above. The values summed up are from the ADC idiot, LOL.
ADC => Apoop-head Dumbo Cluckmister
LOL => Loopy Oafhead Lunie
In math, how many digits accuracy do you have if you have 1289
divided
by 10.00?
Is that 1289.1 or 1289.2 or 1289.3 or
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Look up the Weak Law of Large Numbers.
Idiot!
You did not look it up did you? You are a bad schoolboy.
Go ahead and say it so everyone will know what an idiot you
are. So jabara says that 1289 / 10.00 is not accurate to four digits.
You're a joke with a weak mind. I've done this many times child.
You are still a child, about 12 I think, and you always got it wrong until
now.
Now I teach you the right way, you still be bad boy, you get spanking in
corner with dunce cap on.
Now as an
example lets say that after 1 million samples the average is
128.000001. Now dummy, what happens if we add a static value of 0.1?
Nothing. What is the variance of the process?
Duh, little boy is wrong again. Try building it idiot!
Know what Variance is ? No? Know what Math is? No?
Look up the Weak Law of Large Numbers. You are "cooking up" precision
you
do not have.
I have done it many times. Go back to flipping
burgers. Idiot!
So that is your job, at least you can type keys on a keyboard, but you know
very little math.
Nothing Personal, but your Math stinks badly, and sucks a big one.
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