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"Y.Porat" |
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24 Apr 2007 01:20:44 AM |
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No mass no real physics!!! |
No mass- no real physics!!
it is copyrighted on me since Oct 2005 in Google
as time passes it becomes clearer to me!!
yet as a beginning i consider it lust as my -
postulate No 9
it should be in future - a powerful criteria in physics science
by its validity and simplicity
ATB
Y.Porat
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27 Apr 2007 12:59:21 PM |
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Ahh that would be a shame, I really have enjoyed watching Y-porat
improve his spelling in the last week. Good work ol chap. I'm proud of
you.
BTW, Y is my name. Its short for Yan. My last name Borg. I like Y,
especially when people ask my name. . .
Q. whats your name ?
A. Y.
Q. I dunno was just asking. So what is it ?
A. Y.
Q. oh your being a wise guy huh ?
A. Y do you think that ?
-y
On Apr 27, 6:20 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
to y-porat
Perhaps you should consider not posting to sci.physics.* anymore.
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| User: "Autymn D. C." |
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| Title: Re: No mass no real physics!!! |
28 Apr 2007 01:58:04 AM |
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On Apr 26, 1:06 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
in our world and the practical rsult of it in future:
it will save a lot of waist of scientifi cefforths
on ;'massless' ideas or entities
The amount of mass in somethings doesn't tell you how important it is.
Massless particles like photons are very important to understand.
Fot=F2ns are not particula. They are divisions of waves.
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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26 Apr 2007 02:19:15 AM |
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On Apr 25, 7:10 am, Y <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Shouldn't physics be the pursuit of quantifying observable physical
phenomena ?
Oh shoot "light isn't physical", I forgot. Coming from the same guy
who thinks light HAS mass is very funny.
Now if you said Mass was an essential axiom to physics, then you would
make more sense. But what is an essential axiom ?
What it comes down to is that he cannot imagine it any other way so
that is the way it has to be.
-y
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| User: "Y" |
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25 Apr 2007 10:15:40 AM |
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Shouldn't physics be the pursuit of quantifying observable physical
phenomena ?
Oh shoot "light isn't physical", I forgot. Y-porat, aren't you the guy
who thinks light HAS mass ?? very funny.
Now if you said mass was an essential axiom in physics, then you would
make more sense. But what is an essential axiom ?
-y
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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25 Apr 2007 08:03:55 PM |
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"Y" <yanarchi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177514140.366641.327320@n35g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Shouldn't physics be the pursuit of quantifying observable physical
phenomena ?
Oh shoot "light isn't physical", I forgot. Y-porat, aren't you the guy
who thinks light HAS mass ?? very funny.
Now if you said mass was an essential axiom in physics, then you would
make more sense. But what is an essential axiom ?
How can "mass" be an axiom (essential or otherwise)?
Perhaps that everything that exists must have mass.
Perhaps the slogan / axiom should be
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical fields ..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?
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| User: "Y" |
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27 Apr 2007 12:37:14 PM |
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I hope your joking right ? According to that light is a delusion . . .
-y
On Apr 26, 11:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical fields ..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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29 Apr 2007 11:11:50 AM |
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On Apr 27, 8:37 pm, Y <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I hope your joking right ? According to that light is a delusion . . .
-y
On Apr 26, 11:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical fields ..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?- Hide quoted text -
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Jekyle didnt notice that he said the same thing as i
(before him..) but in other words!!
so please take away the9 C copyright ) sighn from it !!
thef unny thing is that he said that
and just below it said:
something like
no existance ---but there are electric fields that **do something!!**
if they do something than it is as well no existance ???
(:-)
ATB
Y.Porat
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ATB
Y.Porat
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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29 Apr 2007 06:49:41 PM |
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177863109.978943.11320@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 27, 8:37 pm, Y <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I hope your joking right ? According to that light is a delusion . . .
-y
On Apr 26, 11:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical fields
..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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Jekyle didnt notice that he said the same thing as i
(before him..) but in other words!!
Its not the same.
so please take away the9 C copyright ) sighn from it !!
No .. its my slogan. Not yours.
"NO MATTER, NO MASS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
"NO ENERGY, NO PHYSICS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
gee .. this is easy.
thef
thef ?
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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29 Apr 2007 11:52:38 PM |
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On Apr 30, 2:49 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177863109.978943.11320@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 27, 8:37 pm, Y <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I hope your joking right ? According to that light is a delusion . . .
-y
On Apr 26, 11:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical fields
..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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Jekyle didnt notice that he said the same thing as i
(before him..) but in other words!!
Its not the same.
so please take away the9 C copyright ) sighn from it !!
No .. its my slogan. Not yours.
"NO MATTER, NO MASS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
"NO ENERGY, NO PHYSICS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
gee .. this is easy.
thef
thef ?- Hide quoted text -
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now you still dint tell me
1
what gives you the authority to tell me
'stop postiong assertions'
2
what is your formal degree in physics
3
how long do you have that degree
4
what was the subject of that final degree?
instead of now trying to obfuscate my questions
by clowny trickes !!
TIA
Y.Porat
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| User: "T Wake" |
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30 Apr 2007 03:12:44 PM |
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177908758.512286.7040@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 30, 2:49 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177863109.978943.11320@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 27, 8:37 pm, Y <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I hope your joking right ? According to that light is a delusion . . .
-y
On Apr 26, 11:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical
fields
..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
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Jekyle didnt notice that he said the same thing as i
(before him..) but in other words!!
Its not the same.
so please take away the9 C copyright ) sighn from it !!
No .. its my slogan. Not yours.
"NO MATTER, NO MASS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
"NO ENERGY, NO PHYSICS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
gee .. this is easy.
thef
thef ?- Hide quoted text -
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now you still dint tell me
1
what gives you the authority to tell me
'stop postiong assertions'
2
what is your formal degree in physics
3
how long do you have that degree
4
what was the subject of that final degree?
instead of now trying to obfuscate my questions
by clowny trickes !!
And here were see a PoratDiversionTacticT in it's natural environment...
As always, when faced with the idiocy Borat tries to spout, he responds with
some stock questions. He hopes these will delay the conversation so every
one will forget what was said (Borat is unaware of the archival nature of
USENET) and he hopes it will give him something to harp on about, because
the Borat will rate *any* and *all* qualifications as inadequate for
understanding what he is saying...
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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01 May 2007 03:56:31 AM |
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On Apr 30, 11:12 pm, "T Wake" <usenet.es...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177908758.512286.7040@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 30, 2:49 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177863109.978943.11320@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 27, 8:37 pm, Y <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I hope your joking right ? According to that light is a delusion . . .
-y
On Apr 26, 11:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical
fields
..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
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Jekyle didnt notice that he said the same thing as i
(before him..) but in other words!!
Its not the same.
so please take away the9 C copyright ) sighn from it !!
No .. its my slogan. Not yours.
"NO MATTER, NO MASS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
"NO ENERGY, NO PHYSICS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
gee .. this is easy.
thef
thef ?- Hide quoted text -
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now you still dint tell me
1
what gives you the authority to tell me
'stop postiong assertions'
2
what is your formal degree in physics
3
how long do you have that degree
4
what was the subject of that final degree?
instead of now trying to obfuscate my questions
by clowny trickes !!
And here were see a PoratDiversionTacticT in it's natural environment...
As always, when faced with the idiocy Borat tries to spout, he responds with
some stock questions. He hopes these will delay the conversation so every
one will forget what was said (Borat is unaware of the archival nature of
USENET) and he hopes it will give him something to harp on about, because
the Borat will rate *any* and *all* qualifications as inadequate for
understanding what he is saying...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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and my stock question to you Wake is
where is your PHD in consmology !! (:-)
2
the fact that youi divert posts to your cokks ng
is a profe thast you are a dsuiturbed nazi ***** as well !!!
3
find youself a decent day job
before you are being divorsed by your wife ........
4
i would like to see once in my life
a physics argument hjow about this??
you think you can cheat the whole world forever ???
Y.P
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| User: "T Wake" |
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01 May 2007 03:20:18 PM |
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178009790.986278.318530@c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 30, 11:12 pm, "T Wake" <usenet.es...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177908758.512286.7040@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 30, 2:49 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177863109.978943.11320@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 27, 8:37 pm, Y <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I hope your joking right ? According to that light is a delusion .
. .
-y
On Apr 26, 11:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical
fields
..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
-----------------
Jekyle didnt notice that he said the same thing as i
(before him..) but in other words!!
Its not the same.
so please take away the9 C copyright ) sighn from it !!
No .. its my slogan. Not yours.
"NO MATTER, NO MASS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
"NO ENERGY, NO PHYSICS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
gee .. this is easy.
thef
thef ?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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now you still dint tell me
1
what gives you the authority to tell me
'stop postiong assertions'
2
what is your formal degree in physics
3
how long do you have that degree
4
what was the subject of that final degree?
instead of now trying to obfuscate my questions
by clowny trickes !!
And here were see a PoratDiversionTacticT in it's natural environment...
As always, when faced with the idiocy Borat tries to spout, he responds
with
some stock questions. He hopes these will delay the conversation so every
one will forget what was said (Borat is unaware of the archival nature of
USENET) and he hopes it will give him something to harp on about, because
the Borat will rate *any* and *all* qualifications as inadequate for
understanding what he is saying...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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and my stock question to you Wake is
where is your PHD in consmology !! (:-)
Yet, every time I tell you, you ignore me. When I ask if you are prepared to
never post again if I show it, you go quiet and ignore me for a bit.
Am I right in thinking you dont care what qualifications people have, you
just want to rant about something and divert people?
2
the fact that youi divert posts to your cokks ng
is a profe thast you are a dsuiturbed nazi ***** as well !!!
What gives *you* the right to tell me where I should, or shouldn't, send my
posts?
3
find youself a decent day job
before you are being divorsed by your wife ........
I have one and a divorce is unlikely. Are you projecting your life on to me?
4
i would like to see once in my life
a physics argument hjow about this??
you think you can cheat the whole world forever ???
Again, you are projecting.
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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30 Apr 2007 01:14:50 AM |
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177908758.512286.7040@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 30, 2:49 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177863109.978943.11320@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 27, 8:37 pm, Y <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I hope your joking right ? According to that light is a delusion . . .
-y
On Apr 26, 11:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical
fields
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?
-----------------
Jekyle didnt notice that he said the same thing as i
(before him..) but in other words!!
Its not the same.
so please take away the9 C copyright ) sighn from it !!
No .. its my slogan. Not yours.
"NO MATTER, NO MASS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
"NO ENERGY, NO PHYSICS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
gee .. this is easy.
thef
thef ?
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now you still dint tell me
1
what gives you the authority to tell me
'stop postiong assertions'
Who? Me? I need no authority. But if you are going to post assertions, you
should then back them up with some proof, otherwise they are rightly ignored
as an assertion only (ie. it proves nothing in a logical argument).
2
what is your formal degree in physics
Not really your concern
3
how long do you have that degree
Not really your concern
4
what was the subject of that final degree?
Not really your concern
instead of now trying to obfuscate my questions
by clowny trickes !!
Clowny tricks?
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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30 Apr 2007 04:07:36 PM |
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In article <1177908758.512286.7040@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote:
now you still dint tell me
1
what gives you the authority to tell me
'stop postiong assertions'
2
what is your formal degree in physics
3
how long do you have that degree
4
what was the subject of that final degree?
instead of now trying to obfuscate my questions
by clowny trickes !!
Perhaps you should start
by answering those questions
Before asking him.
--
Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy
singularity.
COOSN-174-07-82116: alt.astronomy's favourite poster (from a survey taken
of the saucerhead high command).
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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01 May 2007 04:02:32 AM |
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On May 1, 12:07 am, Phineas T Puddleduck <phineaspuddled...@gmail.com>
wrote:
In article <1177908758.512286.7...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
now you still dint tell me
1
what gives you the authority to tell me
'stop postiong assertions'
2
what is your formal degree in physics
3
how long do you have that degree
4
what was the subject of that final degree?
instead of now trying to obfuscate my questions
by clowny trickes !!
Perhaps you should start
by answering those questions
Before asking him.
--
Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy
singularity.
COOSN-174-07-82116: alt.astronomy's favourite poster (from a survey taken
of the saucerhead high command).- Hide quoted text -
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i already said that i am an old crackpot
is it not right according to you ?? (:-)
and yet he refuses to contribute his information
OOPs
i forgot i am talking to Puddle ... (what ever)
that is here as anonymous .......
Y.P
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| User: "T Wake" |
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01 May 2007 03:21:10 PM |
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178010151.952842.32180@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On May 1, 12:07 am, Phineas T Puddleduck <phineaspuddled...@gmail.com>
wrote:
In article <1177908758.512286.7...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
now you still dint tell me
1
what gives you the authority to tell me
'stop postiong assertions'
2
what is your formal degree in physics
3
how long do you have that degree
4
what was the subject of that final degree?
instead of now trying to obfuscate my questions
by clowny trickes !!
Perhaps you should start
by answering those questions
Before asking him.
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i already said that i am an old crackpot
is it not right according to you ?? (:-)
and yet he refuses to contribute his information
OOPs
i forgot i am talking to Puddle ... (what ever)
that is here as anonymous .......
What was anonymous about Puddleduck's post you crazy fool?
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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01 May 2007 03:24:32 PM |
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In article <LrudncLhWamqPKrbRVnyhgA@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
i already said that i am an old crackpot
is it not right according to you ?? (:-)
and yet he refuses to contribute his information
OOPs
i forgot i am talking to Puddle ... (what ever)
that is here as anonymous .......
What was anonymous about Puddleduck's post you crazy fool?
Seeing the way he mangles English, he probably read it as "anonymous"
--
Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy
singularity.
COOSN-174-07-82116: alt.astronomy's favourite poster (from a survey taken
of the saucerhead high command).
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30 Apr 2007 12:35:59 AM |
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On Apr 29, 8:52 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 30, 2:49 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177863109.978943.11320@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 27, 8:37 pm, Y <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I hope your joking right ? According to that light is a delusion . . .
-y
On Apr 26, 11:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical fields
..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
-----------------
Jekyle didnt notice that he said the same thing as i
(before him..) but in other words!!
Its not the same.
so please take away the9 C copyright ) sighn from it !!
No .. its my slogan. Not yours.
"NO MATTER, NO MASS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
"NO ENERGY, NO PHYSICS" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
gee .. this is easy.
thef
thef ?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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now you still dint tell me
1
what gives you the authority to tell me
'stop postiong assertions'
2
what is your formal degree in physics
3
how long do you have that degree
4
what was the subject of that final degree?
5) Who are you to be criticizing the education of others when you have
no formal education in physics?
instead of now trying to obfuscate my questions
by clowny trickes !!
TIA
Y.Porat
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| User: "Divij Rao" |
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29 Apr 2007 12:18:53 PM |
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i have heard that even negetive mass exists... that is tacheons... how
is that possible can any1 reason it out?(it is nothing to do with the
fight).
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| User: "Greg Neill" |
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| Title: Re: No mass no real physics!!! |
29 Apr 2007 12:42:25 PM |
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"Divij Rao" <divij_urdbest@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
news:1177867133.749070.56790@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
i have heard that even negetive mass exists... that is tacheons... how
is that possible can any1 reason it out?(it is nothing to do with the
fight).
Nothing with negative mass has been observed.
Nothing travelling faster than c has been observed.
Both negative mass and tachyons are nothing but
theoretical imaginings, and not from standard theory
either.
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29 Apr 2007 11:45:13 PM |
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On Apr 29, 8:18 pm, Divij Rao <divij_urdb...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
i have heard that even negetive mass exists... that is tacheons... how
is that possible can any1 reason it out?(it is nothing to do with the
fight).
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Negative mass ????
i can hrdly beleive in it
we know that particles anihilate each others
bu tthat does not neccessary cpmpels us
tp introduce negative mass
please note how i see it:
i see it as particles that are composed of samller basic particles
can cllide and anyhilate each other as big particles
but not he smaller compoments of the big particles
methaphorically iit is as sayl
you take a hammer and crush a piece of rock
now
if you like to call that hammer negative mass..
ok !1
yet th ehammer didnt anyhilate completely mass
it jsut crushed it to smaller piecess
now at the end of the day there must be
*the smallest piece of mass*
even the nancient Greeks came to that conclusion ...
and btw fo rme personally as i see it now
i sugest th e ' Circlon' as the sa,llest one
(Circlon is my suggestion to be may be
the sam,llest mass that
moves naturally in a closed circle!!
(please note the *anturally*
is is sunbsttuting the 'Curved sapce time' .
yet since i force myself to be open minded
and dont reject any new idea!!
ATB
Y.Porat
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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30 Apr 2007 01:12:29 AM |
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 29, 8:18 pm, Divij Rao <divij_urdb...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
i have heard that even negetive mass exists... that is tacheons... how
is that possible can any1 reason it out?(it is nothing to do with the
fight).
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Negative mass ????
[snip]
you take a hammer and crush a piece of rock
now
if you like to call that hammer negative mass..
ok !1
You really have no idea, do you
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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26 Apr 2007 11:34:44 PM |
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On Apr 26, 4:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Y" <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Shouldn't physics be the pursuit of quantifying observable physical
phenomena ?
Oh shoot "light isn't physical", I forgot. Y-porat, aren't you the guy
who thinks light HAS mass ?? very funny.
Now if you said mass was an essential axiom in physics, then you would
make more sense. But what is an essential axiom ?
How can "mass" be an axiom (essential or otherwise)?
Perhaps that everything that exists must have mass.
Perhaps the slogan / axiom should be
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
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well come Jekyle to th e club of inventors
and innovators creative thinkers etc !!
actually you did a grat step twards me
anyway
do you have some credit to Y.Porat for your new insight ??
(:-)
2
ist physics the scince of existing things only ??? (:-)
3
how about some practical conclusions:
fo r insatnce
that all 'virtual particles' ** without mass**
are nonsense physics
and a big delution that leads to waist ot indispensible time
and human resourses ???
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical fields ..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?
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i think that your conclusion should be the other way round::
is they do things........
they have mass !!!!! (:-)
BTW
dod it ever occured to you that
a photon that moves in straght lines
cannever make attraction but only repulsion??!!
as we see in light making repulsion and not attraction??
so my be there is soemtning **rotten **in the fairy 'story' of
photon as making the electric field??!!
another BTW
soon i am going to open a new thread
that will be called:
'is attraction or repulsion dependant only
on the geometric shape of mass ??!!'
i will take you now as a first tester
of that idea
may be just because you are one of the
conseravtives .... (:-)
yet lately i find in you some open mind
and hearth .....and not least
curiousity (for new ideas ) !!
TIA
Y.Porat
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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27 Apr 2007 12:03:34 AM |
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 26, 4:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
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well come Jekyle to th e club of inventors
and innovators creative thinkers etc !!
actually you did a grat step twards me
anyway
do you have some credit to Y.Porat for your new insight ??
(:-)
I don't think its a new insight
2
ist physics the scince of existing things only ??? (:-)
Depends on what you mean by 'things' .. physics is often defined as the
study of the properties of matter and energy and their interactions
3
how about some practical conclusions:
fo r insatnce
that all 'virtual particles' ** without mass**
are nonsense physics
They aren't .. photons are not nonsense
and a big delution that leads to waist ot indispensible time
and human resourses ???
The study of photons and the behaviour of light in general is not a waste
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical fields ..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?
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i think that your conclusion should be the other way round::
is they do things........
they have mass !!!!! (:-)
Photons have no mass, but can do things .. but only because they travel at
c. If something massless travels less than c, then it cannot do anything.
The speed of light limit is an important dividing line.
BTW
dod it ever occured to you that
a photon that moves in straght lines
Yes
cannever make attraction but only repulsion??!!
I don't think that Photons attract or repel .. they have energy and spin ..
but no electrical charge or mass.
as we see in light making repulsion and not attraction??
What repulsion?
so my be there is soemtning **rotten **in the fairy 'story' of
photon as making the electric field??!!
Why?
another BTW
soon i am going to open a new thread
that will be called:
'is attraction or repulsion dependant only
on the geometric shape of mass ??!!'
How can the shape of some matter (I assume that's what you mean) make it
repel something? The gravitational force (ie the 'force' that comes from
mass) is attraction only.
i will take you now as a first tester
of that idea
may be just because you are one of the
conseravtives .... (:-)
:)
yet lately i find in you some open mind
and hearth .....and not least
curiousity (for new ideas ) !!
Always curious, but not to the point of accepting something just without
justification.
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| User: "Autymn D. C." |
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28 Apr 2007 01:55:37 AM |
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On Apr 26, 10:03 pm, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
'is attraction or repulsion dependant only
on the geometric shape of mass ??!!'
How can the shape of some matter (I assume that's what you mean) make it
repel something? The gravitational force (ie the 'force' that comes from
mass) is attraction only.
not
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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27 Apr 2007 11:09:28 AM |
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On Apr 27, 8:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177648484.032282.102300@s33g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 26, 4:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
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well come Jekyle to th e club of inventors
and innovators creative thinkers etc !!
actually you did a grat step twards me
anyway
do you have some credit to Y.Porat for your new insight ??
(:-)
I don't think its a new insight
2
ist physics the scince of existing things only ??? (:-)
Depends on what you mean by 'things' .. physics is often defined as the
study of the properties of matter and energy and their interactions
3
how about some practical conclusions:
fo r insatnce
that all 'virtual particles' ** without mass**
are nonsense physics
They aren't .. photons are not nonsense
and a big delution that leads to waist ot indispensible time
and human resourses ???
The study of photons and the behaviour of light in general is not a waste
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical fields ..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?
--------------------
i think that your conclusion should be the other way round::
is they do things........
they have mass !!!!! (:-)
Photons have no mass, but can do things .. but only because they travel at
c. If something massless travels less than c, then it cannot do anything.
The speed of light limit is an important dividing line.
BTW
dod it ever occured to you that
a photon that moves in straght lines
Yes
cannever make attraction but only repulsion??!!
I don't think that Photons attract or repel .. they have energy and spin ..
but no electrical charge or mass.
as we see in light making repulsion and not attraction??
What repulsion?
so my be there is soemtning **rotten **in the fairy 'story' of
photon as making the electric field??!!
Why?
another BTW
soon i am going to open a new thread
that will be called:
'is attraction or repulsion dependant only
on the geometric shape of mass ??!!'
How can the shape of some matter (I assume that's what you mean) make it
repel something? The gravitational force (ie the 'force' that comes from
mass) is attraction only.
i will take you now as a first tester
of that idea
may be just because you are one of the
conseravtives .... (:-)
:)
yet lately i find in you some open mind
and hearth .....and not least
curiousity (for new ideas ) !!
Always curious, but not to the point of accepting something just without
justification.
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just wait and see!!
Y.Porat
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: No mass no real physics!!! |
27 Apr 2007 11:58:07 AM |
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177690167.920440.114840@u32g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 27, 8:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177648484.032282.102300@s33g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 26, 4:03 am, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"NO MASS - NO REAL EXISTENCE" (c) "Jeckyl" 2007
----------------------------
well come Jekyle to th e club of inventors
and innovators creative thinkers etc !!
actually you did a grat step twards me
anyway
do you have some credit to Y.Porat for your new insight ??
(:-)
I don't think its a new insight
2
ist physics the scince of existing things only ??? (:-)
Depends on what you mean by 'things' .. physics is often defined as the
study of the properties of matter and energy and their interactions
3
how about some practical conclusions:
fo r insatnce
that all 'virtual particles' ** without mass**
are nonsense physics
They aren't .. photons are not nonsense
and a big delution that leads to waist ot indispensible time
and human resourses ???
The study of photons and the behaviour of light in general is not a waste
But then .. does that mean there is no such thing as electrical fields
..
they don't have mass, but they appear to do things?
--------------------
i think that your conclusion should be the other way round::
is they do things........
they have mass !!!!! (:-)
Photons have no mass, but can do things .. but only because they travel
at
c. If something massless travels less than c, then it cannot do
anything.
The speed of light limit is an important dividing line.
BTW
dod it ever occured to you that
a photon that moves in straght lines
Yes
cannever make attraction but only repulsion??!!
I don't think that Photons attract or repel .. they have energy and spin
..
but no electrical charge or mass.
as we see in light making repulsion and not attraction??
What repulsion?
so my be there is soemtning **rotten **in the fairy 'story' of
photon as making the electric field??!!
Why?
another BTW
soon i am going to open a new thread
that will be called:
'is attraction or repulsion dependant only
on the geometric shape of mass ??!!'
How can the shape of some matter (I assume that's what you mean) make it
repel something? The gravitational force (ie the 'force' that comes from
mass) is attraction only.
i will take you now as a first tester
of that idea
may be just because you are one of the
conseravtives .... (:-)
:)
yet lately i find in you some open mind
and hearth .....and not least
curiousity (for new ideas ) !!
Always curious, but not to the point of accepting something just without
justification.
---------------
just wait and see!!
You mean "wait for justification?" Doesn't that sort of prove the point?
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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27 Apr 2007 12:54:10 AM |
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On Apr 26, 8:34 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
Maybe if you actually studied quantum mechanics rather than making
incoherent rants about it, you would be in a better position.
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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27 Apr 2007 11:12:14 AM |
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On Apr 27, 8:54 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 8:34 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
Maybe if you actually studied quantum mechanics rather than making
incoherent rants about it, you would be in a better position.
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just keep your advices for youself
we dont need them pompous hand waivings
so just stay away from me !!..............
Jekyle told me to be polie ................!!
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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27 Apr 2007 09:35:47 PM |
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On Apr 27, 8:12 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 27, 8:54 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 8:34 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
Maybe if you actually studied quantum mechanics rather than making
incoherent rants about it, you would be in a better position.
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just keep your advices for youself
we dont need them pompous hand waivings
so just stay away from me !!..............
Jekyle told me to be polie ................!!
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Y.P
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Why haven't you studied quantum mechanics, Porat?
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