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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "cnctut"
Date: 20 Aug 2006 02:08:35 PM
Object: Octane Ratings for Ethyl/Methyl
I posted this on sci.chem but not takers--anyone here able to help?
Gents, could someone point me to the octane ratings for ethyl and
methyl alcohol? I thought they were listed in CRC, but I can't put my
finger on the numbers now.
Thanks
Tut
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: Octane Ratings for Ethyl/Methyl 20 Aug 2006 11:51:06 PM
over 100 psi methyl
87 psi gas
65 psi diesel
aclohol 110 psi
EFI DFI
fuel injectors inject direct into the head BTDC at fire.
If you run efi into the intake the OCTane must be above compresion or
it will detnate and ping.
run dfi and it dont matter.
inject it into the head at fire time and octane dont matter because it
cant detnate sooner.
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User: "cnctut"

Title: Re: Octane Ratings for Ethyl/Methyl 21 Aug 2006 10:43:11 PM
tj Frazir wrote:

over 100 psi methyl
87 psi gas
65 psi diesel
aclohol 110 psi
EFI DFI
fuel injectors inject direct into the head BTDC at fire.
If you run efi into the intake the OCTane must be above compresion or
it will detnate and ping.
run dfi and it dont matter.
inject it into the head at fire time and octane dont matter because it
cant detnate sooner.

TJ,
I like the your DFI idea--a one or two cylinder diesel might make a
good test bed.
A compression ratio up around 50 would increase the Otto cycle
efficiency to around 69%--nearly a 20% gain. Who knows how high one
could really go with an engine that had a strong rods, pistons and
bearings. Or, reduce the engine size down to the HP needed and you've
really got a super high MPG vehicle.
Tut
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: Octane Ratings for Ethyl/Methyl 22 Aug 2006 09:44:09 AM
I compress ai to 150 psi and inject it into the head , then kick the
flap open and let the tanks presure up in the cyclinder and re-compress
it befor injecting O2 and Gas or iesel or corn oil or candle wax !!
anything..
well Im working on the steamer now.
I ran lpe ballanced gas air for many years.
270 HP 250 MPG .
gas air O2 and steam .
the engine has no coolant .
For 2 years all I did was blast underwater and watch Pmax as far down
as 1000 psi.
I might be the best bubble maker under water.
But I shure as hell biult the planets best engines.
The 4 cyclinder fires one cyclinder per sec wile the rest ae getting
eady or are ready and I can fire as many as I want at once.
I can run the tank at 50 psi up to 1000 psi.
This engine can change its displacement .
it can be a big engine or a very small engine and run on a quart all
night at 5 hp.
I can run liquid metal !!
But I know the planets not ready for liquid metal engines.
LPE does 500 MPG at 48 hp when hot in thermal ballance identical to
the human body.
I can ballance it hot on gas air o2 and steam and o2 in an insulated
engine to keep the heat in and then run carrots or candybars !
I ballanced it on candy a few times .
I run it on amoniumnitrate and diesel o2 and intake air-steam and that
one kicks ***** big time.
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: Octane Ratings for Ethyl/Methyl 22 Aug 2006 10:09:39 AM
My jet ski has no parts as a water rocket 4 cyclinder . 2000 pound
thrust max 500 hp.
I ride it at 1000 pound thrust 350 hp.
it can eat rocks dirt but cant bust.
It will just blow your mind to see a 4 cyclinder with a big intake flap
and a open nosel run .
A 1 hp air compressor runs a 71 HP intake neads .
300,000 hp runs this big ship 60 mph.
I get it up on plane with 1 million HP.
The fuel savings in 72 ships is big.
I biult lpe for about 25 years.
I did it because I did far more math then the rest of the planet ever
did combined..
I did MOE math on evrything that ever was.
tossed the best methods into a stack and biult the LPE . got a ship 1000
ton fo 30,000 bucks and ran waterrocket engines on steam .
That system is off the fucking hook .
I loaded logs off the beach and made pulp and lumber on deck and got to
japan from the west coast with processed driftwood on $ 5000 .
I have 72 ships 3 million acres and 15 billion

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User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: T.J., are there any web sites that describe your LPE ? 22 Aug 2006 01:12:03 PM
Hi T.J., You wrote:
The fuel savings in 72 ships is big. I built LPE for about 25 years.
....
I loaded logs off the beach and made pulp and lumber on deck and
got to Japan from the west coast with processed driftwood on USD 5 thousand.
I have 72 ships, 3 million acres and 15 billion.
Are there any web sites, Written_in_High_Tech_English, that describe your LPE ?
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: T.J., are there any web sites that describe your LPE ? 22 Aug 2006 06:06:16 PM
Nope.
My pc and this ng dont conect.

a piston moves 4 inches and must toss it out but the piston still moved
16 inch with one stroke and waisted 90 % .

2600 pounds of thrust in the cyclinder yet a piston crank convets it
to 100 foot pounds.
per cyclinder is 2600 pounds at 60 mph.
A water rocket can add O2 to the gas air mix and handle 500 to 1000
pounds of compesion and have a 60 inch stroke and produces 2600 pounds
of thrust for 60 inches 1 sec.
No 1 cyclinder boat motor puts out 2600 pounds of thrust OB !
A 120 inch 4 inch cyclinder with 16 inches air intake pushed up to 500
psi befor fuel and o2 injection with no nosel just an elbow out the back
of the ship is 2600 pounds thrust per shot 1 sec pmax.
In a car each cyclinder is 4 inch 200 psi on 13 square inch is 2600
pound thrust.
Its intake is 700 inch stroke intake air sec.
the LPE is 44 inch per sec and puts out 1000 foot pounds at 1000 rpm on
a 24 inch rotor wih 1 inch of vane out.
That is 44 to 700 GPH fuel neaded .
And the 1000 foot pounds at 1000 rpm is so much stronger then the 100
foot pound car .
at 500 rpm it can run 2000 foot pounds at 2 inch of rotor.
I run rotors and have water rockets 12 inch dia 20 feet long with 4
inch nosels 100 point aft and a 5 are on each side bow as bow thusters.
The LPE rotors are iin line 10 of them 48 inch x 12 inch and put out
2500 hp normal and I run 1 or as many as I want ,,then on aux fuel it
runs 100000 hp per rotor .
4500 hp ship engines use 16 ton day.
I run 4500 HP on 1/4 ton day .
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User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: Where can I buy one ? 22 Aug 2006 09:17:12 PM
Hi T.J., You wrote:
I've been builting LPEs for about 25 years now.
....
4.5 thousand Horse_Power ship engines consume 16 tons of diesel a day.
I run 4.5 thousand HP on just 0.25 tons a day.
Why haven't you been selling these LP engines for 25 years then ?
Where can I buy one ?
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: Where can I buy one ? 22 Aug 2006 11:51:13 PM
bush dont want anything that works ..enquote.
usa is a stupid arogant fuckhole.
I put 7 engines on the deck at woods,hole then the oil war started .
gas went up.
You dont have enouph money !!
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User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: T.J., how ( exactly ) did Bush prevent the sale of your LP engines ? 23 Aug 2006 12:28:05 AM
Hi T.J., How ( exactly ) did Bush prevent the sale of your LP engines ?
You wrote: I put 7 engines on the deck at woods,hole
Where is " woods,hole " ?
Suppose I borrowed the money ( perhaps with your help ),
where ( i.e. in what country ) could I buy a LP engine ?
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: T.J., how ( exactly ) did Bush prevent the sale of your LPengi... 23 Aug 2006 12:34:09 PM
They toulk pattents under NS .
They would distroy thee oil maket world wide.
NOT one person in here can dispute the math .
The Bush basterds knew the oil age was over befor the war befor 911
befor gas hit $ 1 .
They saw all 7 engines and have them.
The steamer uses 44 stroke inch per sec wile a
steam emgine uses 500 per sec.
1 inch equals 13 cubic inches.
Thats 270 HP at 250 mpg.
TThe gas air steam O2 does better.

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User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: What about selling to other countries ( or the black market ) ? 23 Aug 2006 01:59:57 PM
Hi T.J., I asked you why, after 25 years, you've never been able to sell
your Liquid_Piston engines ( not even in other countries ).
And you replied: They [ Bush ] took pattents under NS .
What's NS ? National_Security ? So they can raise the price of gas ?
I don't believe that.
What about selling to other countries ( or the black market ) ?
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: What about selling to other countries ( or the black market ) ? 24 Aug 2006 01:01:43 AM
They stopped the pattents to protect the oil co and auto makers . That
is the law.
Im biulding auto plant engine plant in china/brazil for 4 billion.

usa wount let you see it on the net.
usa wount let you see it at all.
Bush knew the oil age was over befor he started the war to stop irac
from selling oil so they could jack the prices up.
Bush dont want me buying up the automakers by distroying them and
buying them cheep.
Bush dont want oil to be over.
Bush neads hung by his neck.
The 3 million millionaires and 290 billionaires
made 165 trillion and all the 100 million workers made 3 trillion .
They do fear the giant and use popaganda and lies to get as much money
as they can befor I waist them all.
When the ***** hits the fan the stock market will colaps and crash .
They will just pass a law and then steel my engine pattents for the
auto makers and the oil age will be over . except I gave them engines
but no run pograms and the automakers will nead too much time to learn
to run the engine pograms so the wount be able to compete with me.
By the time they learn to program engines like I do they will be
fuckd.

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User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: T.J., please show us the patents... or the products. 24 Aug 2006 07:15:23 PM
Hi T.J.,
Re: Why, despite your 25 years of researching your Liquid_Piston_Engine,
your billions in equity, and your many global Residencies/Companies,
you've never been able to sell the LPE anywhere,
You told me:
They stopped the patents to protect the oil co and auto makers.
That is the law.

That sounds like the ravings of a mad man to me.
If you have enough money for yourself and you want to help the poor,
and you've patented the LPE... please show us the patents... or the products.
You added:
I'm building auto plant engine plant in China/Brazil for 4 billion.

What took you so long ? When will the first product roll out ?
You continued:

usa won't let you see it on the net. usa wount let you see it at all.

The internet has kiddie porn and recipies for bombs and drugs;
yet an engine design was somehow completely banned ? Impossible.
You wrote:
Bush knew the oil age was over before he started the war
to stop Iraq from selling oil so they could jack the prices up.

The oil age is _Not_ over, just because one man ( You ) said so.
Again, you sound stark raving mad ( ultra schizophrenic ).
You told me:
The 3 million millionaires and 290 billionaires
made 165 trillion and all the 100 million workers made 3 trillion .
They do fear the Giant and use propaganda and lies
to get as much money as they can before I waste them all.

You'll waste them all, will you ? they want to off you, do they ?
that sounds like extreme paranoia and delusions of grandeur to me.
You concluded:
When the ***** hits the fan the stock market will colaps and crash.
They will just pass a law and then steal my engine pattents for the
auto makers and the oil age will be over.
Except I gave them engines but no run pograms and
the automakers will nead too much time to learn to run the engine programs
so they won't be able to compete with me.
By the time they learn to program the engines like I do they will be fucked.

Says you... and no one else.
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User: "Randy Poe"

Title: Re: T.J., please show us the patents... or the products. 24 Aug 2006 10:17:36 PM
Jeff...Relf wrote:

The oil age is _Not_ over, just because one man ( You ) said so.
Again, you sound stark raving mad ( ultra schizophrenic ).

Don't tell me you're getting skeptical.
Whatever happened to "The fact TJ says it PROVES it's true."?
- Randy
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: T.J., please show us the patents... or the products. 24 Aug 2006 11:58:27 PM
24 inch rotor 1 inch of vane is how much volume at 1000 rpm idiot ??
13 ci per 1 inch stroke in 4 inch cyclinder.
use steam then and push the 4 inch piston 44 inches per sec idiot.
wile a 400 cubic inch steam engine at 1000 rpm devided by 13 is what
idiot ?
Poe- ....????
show the steam input volume in inches of stroke per sec.
44 vrs 500
1 to 11 .
1/11th the fuel per mile .
thats without the O2 .
lpe kicks ***** without the o2.
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User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: Thoughts are _Complex_ ! 25 Aug 2006 04:47:46 AM
Hi Randy_Poe, You asked me:
Whatever happened to your: " If T.J. says it, it _Must_ be true. " ?
I like to think that I know people because:
1. I'm part of a team that writes games that bankers ( world-wide ) play.

2. I got my first Usenet account in the mid 80s, and
I became a regular poster in 1991 ( using my own hand-rolled newsreader ).

3. Although I've always been perma-sober,
I've known plenty of crazy-***** drug fiends.
4. I was a Mormon missionary for many years ( not just the usual 2 ),
including nearly 2 years in Brazil.
5. I knew Alan_Ashton ( the founder of Word_Perfect )
very personally ( from 1972 to 1987 ). WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Alan_Ashton

6. I've traveled the U.S. extensively,
doing genealogy and attending heath food conventions.

7. Only coding has paid the rent for me and mine since the start of 1982,
( and I was coding in the mid 70s as well ).
People write what's on their minds, they just can't help it.
People tend to bost ( hell, I just finished doing so myself, above ).
We all celebrate life with an assortment of vices ( and T.J. has plenty ).
Most don't understand their own life one bit, much less that of others.
Thoughts are _Complex_... I'm still trying to understand who T.J. is.
For example, do you know why this C code:
double Stock_Price_Attribute =
! Dividends_Prior_Quarter
|| Dividend_Increase > 0 && Dividends_This_Quarter > Net_Income
? 0 : Dividend_Increase / ( Dividends_Prior_Quarter + .25 );
does the exact same thing as this code ? :
double Stock_Price_Attribute =
Dividends_Prior_Quarter
&& ( Dividend_Increase <= 0 || Dividends_This_Quarter <= Net_Income )
? Dividend_Increase / ( Dividends_Prior_Quarter + .25 ) : 0 ;
T.J. tends to offer me money when he gets mad at me;
but he always withdraws the offer later, claiming I'm a lazy mooch.
Although he demonstrates plenty of drug-induced paranoid schizophrenia,
he _Has_ been fielding many of my questions;
so I hope to eventually learn more about who he really is.
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User: "Randy Poe"

Title: Re: Thoughts are _Complex_ ! 25 Aug 2006 11:44:44 AM
Jeff...Relf wrote:

Hi Randy_Poe, You asked me:

Whatever happened to your: " If T.J. says it, it _Must_ be true. " ?

I like to think that I know people because:

OK, I didn't really expect an answer and I didn't get one.
I'm just glad for your sake that you have a little skepticism
about something.

For example, do you know why this C code:

double Stock_Price_Attribute =
! Dividends_Prior_Quarter
|| Dividend_Increase > 0 && Dividends_This_Quarter > Net_Income
? 0 : Dividend_Increase / ( Dividends_Prior_Quarter + .25 );

does the exact same thing as this code ? :

double Stock_Price_Attribute =
Dividends_Prior_Quarter
&& ( Dividend_Increase <= 0 || Dividends_This_Quarter <= Net_Income )
? Dividend_Increase / ( Dividends_Prior_Quarter + .25 ) : 0 ;

Yes.
Look up "De Morgan's Theorem".
- Randy
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User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: Randy_Poe, I'm one hundred times the skeptic that you are. 25 Aug 2006 02:37:48 PM
Hi Randy_Poe, Absurdly, you asked me:

Whatever happened to your: " If T.J. says it, it _Must_ be true. " ?

And I replied that people are complex and not so easy to understand.
Hell, I doubt you understand yourself, much less T.J.
I also told you that I've studied people's minds for decades.
And you replied: OK, I didn't really expect an answer and I didn't get one.
If course you didn't get an answer, you haven't earned it yet.
You concluded:
I'm just glad for your sake that
you have a little skepticism about something.
My postulates ( listed below ), and your lack of a response to them,
suggests to me that I'm one hundred times the skeptic that you are, Randy_Poe.
Vices are ok ( to a point ), they're a celebration of life;
but which ones get condoned ( e.g. sex, gasoline and reproduction ) and
which ones don't ( e.g. smoking ) is a _Soft_ science.
Each is imprisoned in a virtual casino... the house always wins in the end.

Like you're both God _And_ Devil ( i.e. " God/Devil " )
to the animals and plants you raise to feed yourself
( i.e. like you punish and reward them, to control them ),
you're a God/Devil's tenant and a God/Devil to your tenants.
Entropy is the top God/Devil because, like a lit match,
consumption ( i.e. dissipation, Gibbs_Free_Energy or entropy )
both creates and destroys all that ever was.
Although control is the goal, it's a mirage.
Time is pseudo-directional ( i.e. spatial )
because, like a dice toss is known to be pseudorandom ( i.e. causal ),
all randomness is pseudorandom.
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: Thoughts are _Complex_ ! 25 Aug 2006 12:00:39 PM
lets see the math randy .
compair a LPE to a steam engine .
then compair any boat motor with a water rocket.
10 % the fuel stupid ..
befor I use o2.
Ill just us the steam from a 1930 doble steamer in the lpe and thats
1000 psi at 1000 rpm on 10 % of the steam volume.
1000 foot pounds at 1000 rpm.
thats better then your cars 130 foot pounds.
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: Thoughts are _Complex_ ! 25 Aug 2006 11:48:03 AM
Randy poelock cant do the fucking math .
Dont you have some math on your hands ?
sliding vane rotors are not new but putting a cam wheel in a rotor hub
is .
75 inches per rotation on a 24 inch rotor.
one square inch of vane X 8 rotatons sec is 480 inches at 500 rpm.
44 inch stroke is 572 cubic inches sec.
197 hp.
a steam engine 1930 uses 400 cubic inch x 2000 rpm at 750 psi .
1 to 11 inch stroke steam.
Thats very simple .
Thats 10 times the MPG .
No denieing anything.
Thats the end of the oil age as you knew it.
10 % the gas is the end of the oil age.
10 X your MPG might be 300 mpg.
volumes dont lie.
No rods no crank no tranny .


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User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: T.J.'s inability to produce and sell a retail Liquid_Piston_Engine. 25 Aug 2006 02:05:50 PM
Hi T.J., Your math proves nothing,
your inability to produce and sell a retail Liquid_Piston_Engine
( despite your extreme wealth and 25 years of development ! ) says it all.
You blame Bush, but I think that's just the drugs talking.
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: T.J.'s inability to produce and sell a retailLiquid_Piston_Eng... 25 Aug 2006 08:51:38 PM
***** you jeff.
your too retarted to do the math fuckhead and I shure as ***** did not
post it for you.
you just think I do.
I use your stupid ***** and thats all.
I never made the same mistake twice you just dont know who learns from
the post.
You cant do the math to form an opinion.
Your much too stupid to understand an engine simple or not.

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User: "Randy Poe"

Title: Re: T.J.'s inability to produce and sell a retail Liquid_Piston_Engine. 25 Aug 2006 02:35:51 PM
Jeff...Relf wrote:

despite your extreme wealth

Oh well. Guess my belief that Jeff had developed a
little skepticism was premature
- Randy
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User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: Rich people have vices and mental disorders just like everyone else. 25 Aug 2006 02:53:55 PM
Hi Randy_Poe,
Rich people have vices and mental disorders just like everyone else.
It's unlikely that T.J. would spend so much time writing about being a
Engine_Designer/Salvager/Timber_Lord/Paper_Producer/Trader/Shipper/Warehouser
if he wasn't involved in such activities.
.

User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: T.J.'s inability to produce and sell a retailLiquid_Piston_Eng... 25 Aug 2006 08:47:47 PM
I dont see your math POE LOCK
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: T.J., please show us the patents... or the products. 25 Aug 2006 12:08:56 AM
all the oil in the lpe is the oil filled berring the sliding vane rotor
rides on.
achohol or LNG ..
run anything you want and force air o2 boost the heat.
push water pistons into a tank and force the air up in the tank like a
spring then drivethe sliding vane with the water from the tank.
The throddle is the cam wheel inside the rotor and it slides so your
foot can set how much vane gets pushed out the rotor .
The cam wheel and vane clearance gate move together to block the flow
of water with vanes 100 % all the time.
That is the end of the oil age and the end of the electric co and the
end of the automaker the end of coal .
it just is.

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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: T.J., please show us the patents... or the products. 25 Aug 2006 12:17:11 AM
randy poelock cant do the math.
if he did lpe steamer his head would come unglued.
If he did ballanced gas air steam o2 his brain would turn to stone.
steamer is simple and undeniable.
750 psi 1930 steamer boiler is ok use DOBLE steamer stanly.
its 500 stroke inch sec.
the lpe steamer is 44 stroke inch sec.
drives a 24 inch rotor .
the stanly steamer boiler is too big for a lpe .
10 times too big.
do the math stupid ,,then speek
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: T.J., please show us the patents... or the products. 24 Aug 2006 09:51:21 PM
Why would I sell it ?????????????????????????????????
They wount give me the pattents because NS laws say so. The feds and
DOE wount and dont want anything that would end the oil age .
But then no one else can because I did apply .
But then I dont nead oneall I nead is the right to import cars and
engines ....
IIm biulding the worlds biggest engine plant in spite of the bush and
feds.
I not once handed them enoupph un data to rip me off ..thats going tto
***** them.
IF they cant lead they WILL get the ***** out of my way..
The law says no engineer can condem my ship engines and its up to sea
tryal then its my responcibility ,,so the USCG has no engineering book
on my engineroom but still could not flunk it because its better then
anything they run.
The uscg could not meet my ships standards.
classed unmanned eng room.
a ship this big with no bustable parts.

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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: T.J., please show us the patents... or the products. 24 Aug 2006 10:52:26 PM
usa wount let that information into usa.
they wount let you see a pic of a LPEsteamer
Bush made it the law.
P-act NS no LPE pics no 2 million green cars.
No 2 million achohol LPES liquid piston steamers.
Its a 2 cycle gas engine with O2 boost and 44 inch strokes ...and its
a steam LPE when it hheats up and dont nead the 2 stroke gas but will
still use the O2 boost .
1930 steamer runs 20 mpg 390 ci at 1200 rpm at 750 psi ..
thats 700 intake inches per sec.
BUT the lpe uses 44 intake inches per sec .
It runs 1000 foot pounds at 1000 rpm.
Thats more HP more foot pounds on 10 % the fuel.
The crank rod and piston cant compete with a sliding vane rotor or even
just a ocket power water rocket.
4 inch water rocket VRS a 4 inch piston...
4 inch piston 200 psi is 2600 pounds of thrust.
it convets it to 100 foot pounds with a 2 inch and is 33 pound
thrust by the time its converted back to thrust. BUT a 4 inch water
rocket
will put 200 pounds thrust for 1 sec on the gas and 500 pounds if the
gas is O2 boosted.
500 pounds thrust at 60 strokes minute or the 4 inch piston 33 pound
thrust on 4000 strokes minute.
The old piston engine gets an as kickin ..the LPE used 10 % the fuel
and put out 10 times the power. That water rocket has nothing that can
bust cant blow a rod cant ***** up ever.
It can use compresion in the 500 psi range and O2 boost the ***** out of
it .
I can stop 32000 tons on a dime ..for a dime.
converting thrust into rotation then back to thrust is insane and
wrong.
I blast the water out of the cyclinder 44 inches or what eve it will
blast and the flap at the end will just slam shut and trap it in the
tank aganst air like a spring. Evry stroke is 100 % potentual energy
and the kenetic energy too.
no rod to smash so I do slam O2 gas and thats rocket fuel hot enouph to
melt car blocks down.
IF you put O2 in your carit would send the piston and crank into the
road and the head into the sky.
I sail at 50 mph allot.
it will do 100.
The USCG cant replicate it because the Navy and feds doe and Bush are
all crooked as *****.
They are spending BILLIONS and jacking oil as high as they can befor I
end the oil age .
Prince Tahliya the Tao Giant
I bet you thought I was the other dude !
I switched ship pics after you saw mine.
I put you on the Xmass list ..
evryone on the list gets 1 mil .
dec 1st direct deposit and it is forwarded if you changed your account
your bank will put it in your accouunt I have more then enouph info I
know what bank .
I put you in my personal will too..
25000 acres in washington state.
I hope I out live you and your kids get it.
Back to MY LPE ..
what do I care if the oil age ends ??
Im too fucking rich now ...
like what the ***** will I do with 100 billion more ? CHANGE THE PLANET
is all.
I do have time and lots of it to change this planet. I will show no
mercy to the oil bosses and 3 million millionaires.
My goal in life now is to break them and buy them up cheep and let the
corps own them selves via worker owned.
LPE will make them all worthless because the stock market will crash
if I could post the pic.
IF I pay the networks 1 billion to show my engines off the stock market
will crash .
at that TIME Ill be ahead of it.
Ill buy the big 3 and all the workers will still go to work and take
the plant apart and rebiuld it.
Ill crush and consume and put the rich basterds in the streets begging
for work.
Bill gates cant get to his cash its all stocks.
The same owners of bills stocks own all the other stocks that will be
worthless so the busted dumbfucks must sell bills stocks to eat with.
Bill will be left with cash on hand.
Ill own msn Microsoft GM ford exc.
I have 249 billion hard cash .
Uncle sams head will hurt and he wont see it comming ,,they do as I
expected and wount get any smarter.
Its like this ...100 million made 3 trillion ,wile 3 million made 3
trillion and 290 billionaires made 29 trillion .
293 trllion buck ***** kicking is due .
Ill split it in 1/2 with 300 million people so 100 million workers will
make 14 tillion and own 1/2 the machine ..like any good ship the crew
takes 1/2 the ship takes 1/2.
Slaves cost 5 % but workers today are less then slaves !!
290 million in usa got fucked.
They feer the growing giant .
I dont nead the backing of the people .
Ill beat thier fucking heads in with thier own game. Can you imagine
the stock crash buy out ?
I ask them nice ,,once ,,
then its ***** kickin time
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Title: T.J., why do you, why should you, want to control the planet ? 25 Aug 2006 12:57:40 AM
Hi T.J., Prince Tahliya the Tao Giant ?
Are you now claiming to be an oil sheik ?
What does the Patriot_Act have to do with them granting you a patent ?
How is it that the patent application isn't enough to make the engine ?
Why have you waited so long ( 25 years ) to produce a retail engine ?
Why would anyone ( including an oil boss ) not want more efficient cars ?
You told me:
The U.S. won't let that information into the U.S.
They won't let you see a pic of a LPEsteamer, Bush made it the law.
Patriot-act National_Security, no LPE pictures, no 2 million green cars.
....
The stock market will crash if I could post the picture.
You could show me a Picture/Schematic of the Liquid_Piston_Engine
simply by uploading it to a site somewhere and giving me a link to it;
not Bush, not anyone, could stop you before I copied it.
I could put in on the eDonkey2000 network ( using ShareAza )
and it'd be copied all over the place... legal or not.
You told me:
I sail at 50 mph alot. it will do 100.
....
I switched ship pictures after you saw mine.

The M/V The_World ( ResidenSea, your ship ) only does 18 knots per hour and
its schedule is planned far in advance ( according to all accounts ).
These pictures are still the same:
http://www.travelwizard.com/luxurycruise/images/1018380343.jpg
http://www.bergshav.com/images/TheWorld.jpg
You told me:
The USCG can't replicate it because the Navy and feds DOE and Bush
are all crooked as *****.
They are spending BILLIONS and jacking oil as high as they can
before I end the oil age.

Gasoline is the same thing, year after year,
the only thing that's changed is the value of the dollar.
The dollar is one share of U.S.A. Inc., and it plunged after the tech bust.
I assume the economy will bottom out around 2015;
economies are just slow like that;
unlike your ship ( ha ha ) it can't turn on a dime.
Rich countries like the U.S. and the Euro_Zone are
the land _Lords_ of the MiddleEast... evicting ( from the planet )
whomever they will... more powerful than Allah ever was.
Arabs are their toys... almost like grass or cattle.
You see it on the news every day.

You told me:
I put you on the Xmass list. Everyone on the list gets USD 1 million.
A Dec 1st direct deposit and it is forwarded if you changed your account,
your bank will put it in your account;
I have more then enough info, I know your bank.

If the past is any indicator, you'll take me off that list come November 31st.
You added:

I put you in my personal will too.
25 thousand acres in Washington state.
I hope I out live you and your kids get it.

I'd rather you sent me tickets to come see your engine room.
Money is vice; and, like all vices,
there comes a point where too much money is just that... too much.

You wrote: I'll own msn Microsoft, GM, Ford etc. I have 249 billion hard cash.

Wow, that's a lot more net assets ( equity ) then you claimed earlier
( to say nothing of liquidity ). Which banks do you own ?
Why do you, why should you, want to control the planet ?
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