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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Pentcho Valev"
Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:34:52 AM
Object: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult
http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/2006/02/testing_times_for_einsteins_th.html
"Research on 'relativity violations' is reaching fever pitch, with the
number of manuscripts on the subject up ten-fold from a decade ago,
physicists heard at the American Association for the Advancement of
Science meeting, held in St Louis, Missouri, on 20 February."
Pentcho Valev
.

User: "dda1"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 24 Mar 2006 12:05:18 PM
Louis the XX-th Savarin, half french-arab heep, half nazi
.
User: "Traveler"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 24 Mar 2006 12:27:51 PM
On 24 Mar 2006 10:05:18 -0800, "dda1" <rangeravenger@yahoo.com> wrote:

Louis the XX-th Savarin, half french-arab heep, half nazi

ahahaha... dda1, rangeravenger, crankhater are all the same person:
Mike Varney, the Colorado edu-queer who swore a while ago to never
post on the physics newsgroups. ahahaha... You can take an ***** kisser
away from the action but you can't take the desire out of him.
ahahaha...
Louis Savain
Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix It:
http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm
.
User: "Cranks_Will_Be_Found"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 04 Apr 2006 10:38:06 AM
Traveler wrote:

On 24 Mar 2006 10:05:18 -0800, "dda1" <rangeravenger@yahoo.com> wrote:

Louis the XX-th Savarin, half french-arab heep, half nazi


ahahaha... dda1, rangeravenger, crankhater are all the same person:
Mike Varney, the Colorado edu-queer who swore a while ago to never
post on the physics newsgroups. ahahaha... You can take an ***** kisser
away from the action but you can't take the desire out of him.
ahahaha...

Louis Savain

hey cocklover, who the ***** is mike varney.
only a ***** like you would think i was from colorado - and the only
reason you want me to be queer is so that you can fantasise about my
big ***** throbbing in your ***** while hanson blows you.
why dont you spend less time slamming your knob in doors and actually
try to learn something.
louise dickweed savian.
.



User: "JanPB"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 22 Mar 2006 01:35:10 AM
hanson wrote:

To: Professor Steve Carlip,


Yo, Steve, .... in the post below and in your message
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/3e8373117e25aacd
you say:

This is the way science works -- it's something the cranks just
don't seem to get. ... I have a postdoc who is working on this.

[hanson]
Tell me, Steve, is this defender of relativity below, "dda1", one of
your students? If this is what your education produces to sell the
value of relativity and the grandeur of Einstein, then you have given
your postdoc a project of insurmountable difficulties. Were "dda1"
the <Deranged avenger at yahoo.com> an isolated case then he
could be written off. But for every crank that YOU see, there is one
or more Einstein fanatics who do their outmost to make the situation
for relativity education worse with their psychotic responses. These
Einstein fanatical disciples far outpace and out-perform any crank in
doing detriment/damage to relativity's value in the public's perception.

Man, you are confused.
--
Jan Bielawski
.
User: "hanson"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 22 Mar 2006 11:29:00 AM
"JanPB" <filmFart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143012910.801885.288510@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...

hanson wrote:

To: Professor Steve Carlip,


Yo, Steve, .... in the post below and in your message
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/3e8373117e25aacd
you say:

This is the way science works -- it's something the cranks just
don't seem to get. ... I have a postdoc who is working on this.

[hanson]
Tell me, Steve, is this defender of relativity below, "dda1", one of
your students? If this is what your education produces to sell the
value of relativity and the grandeur of Einstein, then you have given
your postdoc a project of insurmountable difficulties. Were "dda1"
the <Deranged avenger at yahoo.com> an isolated case then he
could be written off. But for every crank that YOU see, there is one
or more Einstein fanatics who do their outmost to make the situation
for relativity education worse with their psychotic responses. These
Einstein fanatical disciples far outpace and out-perform any crank in
doing detriment/damage to relativity's value in the public's perception.


[Jan]

Man, you are confused.
Jan Bielawski

[hanson]
But Jan, you just demonstrated with your post that YOU are one

.. more of these Einstein fanatics who do their outmost to
make the situation for relativity education worse with their
psychotic responses.

Jan, when will it dawn on you that have become a victim of the
*************** Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult *************
because you seem to have realized that relativity AND 2-3 dollars
will buy him a cup of coffee but that relativity alone will absolutely
not do so..... ahahahaha... ahahahaha.... More fun with what the
******** Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ******* has done in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/218f84c5a84513b5
..... ahahaha... Thanks for the laughs you panicked Einstein fanatics.
ahahahaha... ahahahanson
.

User: "Hexenmeister"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 22 Mar 2006 04:04:05 AM
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143012910.801885.288510@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
| hanson wrote:
| > To: Professor Steve Carlip,

| > Yo, Steve, .... in the post below and in your message
| >
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/3e8373117e25aacd
| > you say:
| > > This is the way science works -- it's something the cranks just
| > > don't seem to get. ... I have a postdoc who is working on this.
| > >
| > [hanson]
| > Tell me, Steve, is this defender of relativity below, "dda1", one of
| > your students? If this is what your education produces to sell the
| > value of relativity and the grandeur of Einstein, then you have given
| > your postdoc a project of insurmountable difficulties. Were "dda1"
| > the <Deranged avenger at yahoo.com> an isolated case then he
| > could be written off. But for every crank that YOU see, there is one
| > or more Einstein fanatics who do their outmost to make the situation
| > for relativity education worse with their psychotic responses. These
| > Einstein fanatical disciples far outpace and out-perform any crank in
| > doing detriment/damage to relativity's value in the public's perception.
|
| Man, you are confused.
Hey, Bilewacky! You are confused.
Androcles
|
| --
| Jan Bielawski
|
.


User: "JanPB"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 20 Mar 2006 03:25:34 PM
hanson wrote:
[more nonsense]
Fortunately, real life and real science has nothing to do with Usenet.
As I said: entertainment only.
--
Jan Bielawski
.
User: "Hexenmeister"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 20 Mar 2006 09:10:39 PM
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142889934.617649.284000@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Oops, no he didn't, he snipped.
Androcles.
.

User: "hanson"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 20 Mar 2006 03:35:28 PM
"JanPB", the <filmFart@gmail.com> cranked himself in message
news:1142889934.617649.284000@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

because hanson quoted :
[more nonsense] from Bielawski:

[Jan]

Fortunately, real life and real science has nothing to do with Usenet.
As I said: entertainment only.
Jan Bielawski

[hanson]
ahahaha... yeah, yeah... as seen, you take that "entertainment" very
very seriously and crank yourself grieveously with and over it...
Thanks for the laughs, and here it is again for your "entertainment":
ahahaha.... Pentcho Valev .... came up with a great subject line:
===== Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ===== for/in/because
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/977e4798233bdaeb

the oldest profession is scientific prostitution, and it is thriving in
the 20th century. I agree with the argument of Feyerabend that
puts science on a par with religion and prostitution. I would agree
with Popper that observations are theory-laden. I agree with Seeds
argument that people who believe more in theories and who ignore
the evidence against the theories they believe in are scientific
prostitutes." -- Pentcho Valev

[hanson]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/6f06ff7f0ef40049

Excellent exposé/summary by Pentcho... but of course the disciples
of geriatric science will not listen and prefer to beat on you the
messenger.

This tilt has been long in coming and was mainly precipitated by the
attitudes in the ivory tower league itself, which was first openly riled
against by the Nazis who dubbed it "überspitzte Intellektualität der
Judenphysik", which evolved into the science flattening steam roller
machinations of the enviro turds, green shits, ARA and PETAsses...
It's a backlash that now must be paid for... Yet most practitioners of
science are blind to the hand writing on the walls and continue to prop
up and proselytize the very agent that has made them sick: SR & GR.
hahahaha... ahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA....

[Penrose]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/4ee0247ccd53a29e

Science is indeed over. I was trained as a chemist in the '60's and had
a fine career in academia, government, and industry. Eventually, with
chemistry jobs deteriorating from careers into at-will piecework, I
went into instrumentation design. But I wouldn't give two cents for a
future in chemistry today. --- Students are not stupid. They see the
writing on the wall and act accordingly.

[Pentcho]

http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/2006/02/testing_times_for_einsteins...
"Research on 'relativity violations' is reaching fever pitch, with the
number of manuscripts on the subject up ten-fold from a decade ago,
physicists heard at the American Association for the Advancement of
Science meeting, held in St Louis, Missouri, on 20 February."

[Carlip to Pentcho]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/3e8373117e25aacd

This is the way science works -- it's something the cranks just don't
seem to get. The other part that the cranks don't get is that the
people looking for "relativity violations"

(1) really understand relativity (including the experimental tests
confirming its predictions), so they know what to look for;
(2) are looking to the future (quantum gravity, for instance),
not trying to dig up discredited ideas from the past;
(3) look for real evidence, and admit it if they don't find any.


[hanson to Carlip]
True, this may be the way how science works, but the way you and
the current mind set (especially in physics and math) does SELL
science is beyond pathetic and probably one of the chief reasons
for the "Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult"... ahahaha... Everybody in
P&M, including you, Steve, ought to take Marketing 101 and read
self-help books like DC's "How to make friends and influence
people". You, the self-anointed guys of the establishment, should
remember that the ones you call cranks and crackpots are
(1) ... the people who do have a deep and abiding to fanatical
interest in science.
(2)... the folks who run/write to their congs and sens to tell them
how great science is and indirectly, behind the scenes, generate
public funding for science. (No science is self supporting)
(3)... your neglected step children, to whom you simply have shown
that you (collectively) are very bad teachers and not capable of
reaching them. So, they, in their compulsion, take matters in their own
hands and explain "it" in the way they see "it" and how "it" ought to be....
ahahaha... BFD!!!... which means: Big fucking deal!... ahahaha...
Ergo, you with your crank calling are simply making yourself feel good
over your own "failures to instruct successfully" and in the process
you ***** yourself galore as is seen in the real world sci-decline and/in
by the cyber reactions you get: More & more cranks ... cranking you!...
Suck up to the cranks, honor them and humor them instead, you fools!
ahahahaha..... AHAHAHAHAHAHA....


Traveller Savain/eightwing to Mitch Perkins]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/8cd45090e7960d8f

Uncle [Alan Schwartz] ***** puts most ***** kissers I know to
shame. He once so shamelessly kissed John Baez's ***** on usenet
to the point where I felt embarassed for the asswipe. Uncle *****
wants to be accepted by the establishment, not challenge them.
His parity Eotvos crap was not designed to challenge the current
chicken ***** math approach to doing physics. If he really wanted to
challenge GR's equivalence principle, he should have shown that
the EP is not strictly adhered to by the relativists themselves.
The EP, if taken to its ultimate significance, actually assumes
instantaneous gravity. [But] when pressed, the stupid senile
motherfuckers (ahahaha...) will reply that science is not about
causes.
PS to Bielawski. I'm a little busy right now but don't think for a
moment that I'm gonna let you have the last word, *****. ahahaha...
In your reply to my last post, you sound like you're over seventy or
something. I think it's time for all the old fartheads to croak,
retire or shut the ***** up, so that the younger generation can rid the
world of their geratric physics. ahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha...
Louis Savain

[Pentcho Valev cranked Bielawski with]:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/b366ce01857ea88d

Yes zombies cannot go further than that but other
explanations do exist of course.
Sometimes introducing mediocrities like Einstein
proves extremely profitable.


[Bielawski to Pentcho]]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/aec0a977a859c0d9

There exists a far simpler explanation: you are an idiot.
Jan Bielawski

[hanson]
"Biel" you truly are in "awe", "ski"ing on Albert's coat tail.
Still:
[-------------------------------------------------------]
|------- Pentcho 1 : Bielawski 0 -----|
[-------------------------------------------------------]
ahahahaha... Biel, you must an Einstein disciple in the 4th
line below... because you do not project the ken nor pizzazz
to belong into any of the groups 1-3. Hence you are forgiven!
ahahaha... So to cure Bielawski's sad affliction of Albertism
and full-blown Einsteinitis, he needs to know first of all that
anybody who works in
== mil/indust. Eng, R&D....................."does not need REL *****"
== *.edu & for R-grants......................"does need REL, - No *****"
== Promo, Sales & Movies............... "loves REL by the shitload"
== Jews protect it as cultural heritage whether "REL is ***** or not".
Furthermore, it is of no wonder that the Bavarians have made
GR/SR courses NOT mandatory any longer in their Univs physics
curriculum since/in 1996 and on about Sept 2005 I glanced at a
post from a US student who wondered what book to study about
GR since it was no longer offered at his University in the US... !!!!.
At the end 2005 even the Brits' conservative Royal Society has
voted Einstein out and favors Newton... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA...
....and, to boot, Einstein did not steal the 1905 relativity idea/concept
from others (Poincare) but from his own 1st Christian wife, Mileva Maric:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/c317bb71e593ff8b
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3519d92d18984b8c
However, Einstein should be given dues and high marks for his
explanation of the photo electric effect (Hertz effect) for which he
got the Nobel price in 1921, with its attached bag of loot of $32'000,
all of which Albert had to all fork over to Mileva, apparently as hush
money (see above urls).... ahahahaha.....
BUT, it is obvious to those that are not brainwashed into hero
worship, that Einstein had a certain integrity, chutzpah and a notion
for being truthful about the state of SR/GR since he himself knew
and SAID all along that relativity, both SR/GR, were grand intellectual
con jobs that he had a hand in creating, but that they were promoted
and proselytized by hordes of little hanger-on's and coat tail riders.
ahahaha .... As early as ~1922, when Einstein's star was meteorically
raising, Albert was telling and urging physicists that they:
== "should NOT search at the same, now well lit places,
where he, Einstein, had been working". ==
Albert might have had good reasons to do so because his contemps,
even in high places in the Nobel prize committee, expressed doubts,
like Harald Nordensen who wrote in 1922: "I maintain that whosoever
from now upholds the relativistic ideas or applies the fundamental
relativistic formulae as representing relations between physical quantities,
without regarding and refuting my criticism of the Theory, makes himself
liable to the accusation of grave intellectual laxity." .... ahahaha....
.... and Einstein himself repeated the same doubts close to the end
of his life in a letter to Besso in 1954, wherein he said :
== "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based
== on the field concept, i. e., on continuous structures. In that
== case nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation
== theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics." -- A.E.
.... and you may notice that Albert's pacifism was absent when
he signed a letter to Pres FDR to build the most murderous and
destructive weapon, the A bomb, ..... yet right thereafter Einstein
washed his hands and cried: "oye weh"...some kind of pacifist....
and as far as Albert's philosophy is concerned I have yet to
see any remarks by him that equal or trump the depths or insights
by any other arm chair pontificator or a village priests' admonitions
in their sermons.... But...
...some people, like Bielawski here, were brainwashed & conditioned
and hence do need to practice their hero worship on something
in order to be http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm ...hahaha....
Power to these lovely people!!!... for they are exploitable.... ahaha..
--
ahahaha... ahahanson
--
"If I only knew what I was talking about. Just once."
-- A. Einstein, on his death bed, 18 April 1955, still plagiarizing.
PS: It is not the hyperbolic/conic section math/geometry that is
used in SR/GR which is the bone of contention.. The math/geo
itself is internally consistent and flawless. The grief comes from
the questionable conclusions of the results when applied to physics.

.
User: "Hexenmeister"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 20 Mar 2006 09:10:39 PM
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:AeFTf.3837$I7.3523@trnddc03...
| "JanPB", the <filmFart@gmail.com> cranked himself in message
| news:1142889934.617649.284000@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > because hanson quoted :
| > [more nonsense] from Bielawski:
| >
| [Jan]
| > Fortunately, real life and real science has nothing to do with Usenet.
| > As I said: entertainment only.
| > Jan Bielawski
| >
| [hanson]
| ahahaha... yeah, yeah... as seen, you take that "entertainment" very
| very seriously and crank yourself grieveously with and over it...
Doesn't he, though?
This is the funniest heresy I've seen in a long time:
From: JanPB - view profile
Date: Fri, Mar 10 2006 7:10 am
" there is a chance the definition of Einstein sync is vacuous."
There is a chance David Copperfield didn't really make the Statue of Liberty
vanish.
Androcles.
| Thanks for the laughs, and here it is again for your "entertainment":
|
| ahahaha.... Pentcho Valev .... came up with a great subject line:
| ===== Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ===== for/in/because
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/977e4798233bdaeb
| > the oldest profession is scientific prostitution, and it is thriving in
| > the 20th century. I agree with the argument of Feyerabend that
| > puts science on a par with religion and prostitution. I would agree
| > with Popper that observations are theory-laden. I agree with Seeds
| > argument that people who believe more in theories and who ignore
| > the evidence against the theories they believe in are scientific
| > prostitutes." -- Pentcho Valev
| >
| [hanson]
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/6f06ff7f0ef40049
| > Excellent exposi/summary by Pentcho... but of course the disciples
| > of geriatric science will not listen and prefer to beat on you the
| > messenger.
| >
| > This tilt has been long in coming and was mainly precipitated by the
| > attitudes in the ivory tower league itself, which was first openly riled
| > against by the Nazis who dubbed it "|berspitzte Intellektualitdt der
| > Judenphysik", which evolved into the science flattening steam roller
| > machinations of the enviro turds, green shits, ARA and PETAsses...
| > It's a backlash that now must be paid for... Yet most practitioners of
| > science are blind to the hand writing on the walls and continue to prop
| > up and proselytize the very agent that has made them sick: SR & GR.
| > hahahaha... ahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA....
| >
| [Penrose]
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/4ee0247ccd53a29e
| > Science is indeed over. I was trained as a chemist in the '60's and had
| > a fine career in academia, government, and industry. Eventually, with
| > chemistry jobs deteriorating from careers into at-will piecework, I
| > went into instrumentation design. But I wouldn't give two cents for a
| > future in chemistry today. --- Students are not stupid. They see the
| > writing on the wall and act accordingly.
| >
| [Pentcho]
| > http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/2006/02/testing_times_for_einsteins...
| > "Research on 'relativity violations' is reaching fever pitch, with the
| > number of manuscripts on the subject up ten-fold from a decade ago,
| > physicists heard at the American Association for the Advancement of
| > Science meeting, held in St Louis, Missouri, on 20 February."
| >
| [Carlip to Pentcho]
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/3e8373117e25aacd
| > This is the way science works -- it's something the cranks just don't
| > seem to get. The other part that the cranks don't get is that the
| > people looking for "relativity violations"
| (1) really understand relativity (including the experimental tests
| confirming its predictions), so they know what to look for;
| (2) are looking to the future (quantum gravity, for instance),
| not trying to dig up discredited ideas from the past;
| (3) look for real evidence, and admit it if they don't find any.
| >
| [hanson to Carlip]
| True, this may be the way how science works, but the way you and
| the current mind set (especially in physics and math) does SELL
| science is beyond pathetic and probably one of the chief reasons
| for the "Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult"... ahahaha... Everybody in
| P&M, including you, Steve, ought to take Marketing 101 and read
| self-help books like DC's "How to make friends and influence
| people". You, the self-anointed guys of the establishment, should
| remember that the ones you call cranks and crackpots are
| (1) ... the people who do have a deep and abiding to fanatical
| interest in science.
| (2)... the folks who run/write to their congs and sens to tell them
| how great science is and indirectly, behind the scenes, generate
| public funding for science. (No science is self supporting)
| (3)... your neglected step children, to whom you simply have shown
| that you (collectively) are very bad teachers and not capable of
| reaching them. So, they, in their compulsion, take matters in their own
| hands and explain "it" in the way they see "it" and how "it" ought to
be....
| ahahaha... BFD!!!... which means: Big fucking deal!... ahahaha...
| Ergo, you with your crank calling are simply making yourself feel good
| over your own "failures to instruct successfully" and in the process
| you ***** yourself galore as is seen in the real world sci-decline and/in
| by the cyber reactions you get: More & more cranks ... cranking you!...
|
| Suck up to the cranks, honor them and humor them instead, you fools!
| ahahahaha..... AHAHAHAHAHAHA....
| >
| Traveller Savain/eightwing to Mitch Perkins]
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/8cd45090e7960d8f
| > Uncle [Alan Schwartz] ***** puts most ***** kissers I know to
| > shame. He once so shamelessly kissed John Baez's ***** on usenet
| > to the point where I felt embarassed for the asswipe. Uncle *****
| > wants to be accepted by the establishment, not challenge them.
| > His parity Eotvos crap was not designed to challenge the current
| > chicken ***** math approach to doing physics. If he really wanted to
| > challenge GR's equivalence principle, he should have shown that
| > the EP is not strictly adhered to by the relativists themselves.
| > The EP, if taken to its ultimate significance, actually assumes
| > instantaneous gravity. [But] when pressed, the stupid senile
| > motherfuckers (ahahaha...) will reply that science is not about
| > causes.
| > PS to Bielawski. I'm a little busy right now but don't think for a
| > moment that I'm gonna let you have the last word, *****. ahahaha...
| > In your reply to my last post, you sound like you're over seventy or
| > something. I think it's time for all the old fartheads to croak,
| > retire or shut the ***** up, so that the younger generation can rid the
| > world of their geratric physics. ahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha...
| > Louis Savain
| >
| [Pentcho Valev cranked Bielawski with]:
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/b366ce01857ea88d
| >> Yes zombies cannot go further than that but other
| >> explanations do exist of course.
| >> Sometimes introducing mediocrities like Einstein
| >> proves extremely profitable.
| >
| [Bielawski to Pentcho]]
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/aec0a977a859c0d9
| > There exists a far simpler explanation: you are an idiot.
| > Jan Bielawski
| >
| [hanson]
| "Biel" you truly are in "awe", "ski"ing on Albert's coat tail.
| Still:
| [-------------------------------------------------------]
||------- Pentcho 1 : Bielawski 0 -----|
| [-------------------------------------------------------]
|
| ahahahaha... Biel, you must an Einstein disciple in the 4th
| line below... because you do not project the ken nor pizzazz
| to belong into any of the groups 1-3. Hence you are forgiven!
| ahahaha... So to cure Bielawski's sad affliction of Albertism
| and full-blown Einsteinitis, he needs to know first of all that
| anybody who works in
| == mil/indust. Eng, R&D....................."does not need REL *****"
| == *.edu & for R-grants......................"does need REL, - No *****"
| == Promo, Sales & Movies............... "loves REL by the shitload"
| == Jews protect it as cultural heritage whether "REL is ***** or not".
|
| Furthermore, it is of no wonder that the Bavarians have made
| GR/SR courses NOT mandatory any longer in their Univs physics
| curriculum since/in 1996 and on about Sept 2005 I glanced at a
| post from a US student who wondered what book to study about
| GR since it was no longer offered at his University in the US... !!!!.
| At the end 2005 even the Brits' conservative Royal Society has
| voted Einstein out and favors Newton... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA...
|
| ...and, to boot, Einstein did not steal the 1905 relativity idea/concept
| from others (Poincare) but from his own 1st Christian wife, Mileva Maric:
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/c317bb71e593ff8b
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3519d92d18984b8c
|
| However, Einstein should be given dues and high marks for his
| explanation of the photo electric effect (Hertz effect) for which he
| got the Nobel price in 1921, with its attached bag of loot of $32'000,
| all of which Albert had to all fork over to Mileva, apparently as hush
| money (see above urls).... ahahahaha.....
|
| BUT, it is obvious to those that are not brainwashed into hero
| worship, that Einstein had a certain integrity, chutzpah and a notion
| for being truthful about the state of SR/GR since he himself knew
| and SAID all along that relativity, both SR/GR, were grand intellectual
| con jobs that he had a hand in creating, but that they were promoted
| and proselytized by hordes of little hanger-on's and coat tail riders.
| ahahaha .... As early as ~1922, when Einstein's star was meteorically
| raising, Albert was telling and urging physicists that they:
| == "should NOT search at the same, now well lit places,
| where he, Einstein, had been working". ==
|
| Albert might have had good reasons to do so because his contemps,
| even in high places in the Nobel prize committee, expressed doubts,
| like Harald Nordensen who wrote in 1922: "I maintain that whosoever
| from now upholds the relativistic ideas or applies the fundamental
| relativistic formulae as representing relations between physical
quantities,
| without regarding and refuting my criticism of the Theory, makes himself
| liable to the accusation of grave intellectual laxity." .... ahahaha....
|
| ... and Einstein himself repeated the same doubts close to the end
| of his life in a letter to Besso in 1954, wherein he said :
| == "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based
| == on the field concept, i. e., on continuous structures. In that
| == case nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation
| == theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics." -- A.E.
|
| ... and you may notice that Albert's pacifism was absent when
| he signed a letter to Pres FDR to build the most murderous and
| destructive weapon, the A bomb, ..... yet right thereafter Einstein
| washed his hands and cried: "oye weh"...some kind of pacifist....
| and as far as Albert's philosophy is concerned I have yet to
| see any remarks by him that equal or trump the depths or insights
| by any other arm chair pontificator or a village priests' admonitions
| in their sermons.... But...
|
| ..some people, like Bielawski here, were brainwashed & conditioned
| and hence do need to practice their hero worship on something
| in order to be http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm ...hahaha....
| Power to these lovely people!!!... for they are exploitable.... ahaha..
| --
| ahahaha... ahahanson
| --
| "If I only knew what I was talking about. Just once."
| -- A. Einstein, on his death bed, 18 April 1955, still plagiarizing.
|
| PS: It is not the hyperbolic/conic section math/geometry that is
| used in SR/GR which is the bone of contention.. The math/geo
| itself is internally consistent and flawless. The grief comes from
| the questionable conclusions of the results when applied to physics.
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User: "JanPB"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 20 Mar 2006 11:00:01 PM
Hexenmeister wrote:

"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:AeFTf.3837$I7.3523@trnddc03...
|
| [hanson]
| ahahaha... yeah, yeah... as seen, you take that "entertainment" very
| very seriously and crank yourself grieveously with and over it...

Doesn't he, though?

This is the funniest heresy I've seen in a long time:
From: JanPB - view profile
Date: Fri, Mar 10 2006 7:10 am
" there is a chance the definition of Einstein sync is vacuous."

Quoted out of context. What I wrote was that the physical assumptions
Einstein makes when stating the postulates "must be verified
experimentally, otherwise there is a chance the definition of Einstein
sync is vacuous."
--
Jan Bielawski
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User: "Hexenmeister"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 21 Mar 2006 07:07:58 AM
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142917201.397898.71920@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Hexenmeister wrote:
| > "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
| > news:AeFTf.3837$I7.3523@trnddc03...
| > |
| > | [hanson]
| > | ahahaha... yeah, yeah... as seen, you take that "entertainment" very
| > | very seriously and crank yourself grieveously with and over it...
| >
| > Doesn't he, though?
| >
| > This is the funniest heresy I've seen in a long time:
| > From: JanPB - view profile
| > Date: Fri, Mar 10 2006 7:10 am
| > " there is a chance the definition of Einstein sync is vacuous."
|
| Quoted out of context. What I wrote was that the physical assumptions
| Einstein makes when stating the postulates "must be verified
| experimentally, otherwise there is a chance the definition of Einstein
| sync is vacuous."
|
Yes, well, NASA-JPL have done the "experimental verifying"
with clocks on "Cassini" at Saturn and on "Spirit" and "Opportunity"
on Mars, hence the definition of Einstein sync is vacuous.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
As the idiot relativist Roberts says, "Real has nothing to do with it."
As much smarter hanson says, "as seen, you take that "entertainment" very
very seriously and crank yourself grieveously with and over it."
Is it in context now?
As always, idiots are the last to know they are idiots and most never do,
especially the arrogant ones.
"Let 'em sing, its a beautiful choir" -- hanson.
Androcles.
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User: "hanson"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 21 Mar 2006 08:38:26 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... ahaha...
Hexer, you have produced a gem here. Thanks for the laughs.
ahahaha.... ahahahanson
--


"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote in message
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"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142917201.397898.71920@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Hexenmeister wrote:
| > "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
| > news:AeFTf.3837$I7.3523@trnddc03...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/fe47ecbc64a1babc

| > | [hanson to Bielawski]
| > | ahahaha... yeah, yeah... as seen, you take that "entertainment" very
| > | very seriously and crank yourself grieveously with and over it...
| >

[Hexer to hanson]

| > Doesn't he, though?
| >
| > This is the funniest heresy I've seen in a long time:
| > From: JanPB - view profile
| > Date: Fri, Mar 10 2006 7:10 am
| > " there is a chance the definition of Einstein sync is vacuous."
|

[Jan to Hexer]

| Quoted out of context. What I wrote was that the physical assumptions
| Einstein makes when stating the postulates "must be verified
| experimentally, otherwise there is a chance the definition of Einstein
| sync is vacuous."
|

[Hexer to Jan]

Yes, well, NASA-JPL have done the "experimental verifying"
with clocks on "Cassini" at Saturn and on "Spirit" and "Opportunity"
on Mars, hence the definition of Einstein sync is vacuous.

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm

As the idiot relativist Roberts says, "Real has nothing to do with it."
As much smarter hanson says, "as seen, you take that "entertainment" very
very seriously and crank yourself grieveously with and over it."

Is it in context now?

As always, idiots are the last to know they are idiots and most never do,
especially the arrogant ones.
"Let 'em sing, its a beautiful choir" -- hanson.
Androcles.


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User: "Hexenmeister"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 21 Mar 2006 12:27:35 PM
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:CdUTf.8008$wD1.6190@trnddc02...
| AHAHAHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... ahaha...
| Hexer, you have produced a gem here. Thanks for the laughs.
| ahahaha.... ahahahanson
How about this one?
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1128496606.634096.227060@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Daryl McCullough wrote:
| > JanPB says...
| >
| > Jan, this is incredibly painful to watch.
|
| It's interesting to me to see how far he can go with this. Right now we
| are reduced to elementary arithmetic (b-a=c-b implying 2b=a+c) and
| elements of functions. With a bit more work we'll get down to the
| nitty-gritty of the empty set soon.
|
| > Androcles isn't
| > paying any attention to what you are saying. He's only
| > calling you names and ignoring what you say.
|
| But I'm having all the fun :-)
|
| --
| Jan Bielawski
He's right, of course. My site is
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
His site is the empty site.
We are down to the nitty gritty of the empty site.
It looks as if McCullough fucked off. Pity, I used McCullough's
numbers for my ghost train gif to explain SR.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm
Not that a moron like Bilewacky would understand elementary arithmetic
(b-a=c-b implying 2b=a+c) and elements of functions.
But... he's having all the fun and cranking himself grieveously with and
over it.
As if I would ignore his words of... err... wisdom? ... err... help me here.
What is the word I'm looking for?
Androcles.
|-
| >
| "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote in message
| news:OUSTf.81714$zk4.74614@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| > "JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1142917201.397898.71920@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > | Hexenmeister wrote:
| > | > "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
| > | > news:AeFTf.3837$I7.3523@trnddc03...
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/fe47ecbc64a1babc
| > | > | [hanson to Bielawski]
| > | > | ahahaha... yeah, yeah... as seen, you take that "entertainment"
very
| > | > | very seriously and crank yourself grieveously with and over it...
| > | >
| [Hexer to hanson]
| > | > Doesn't he, though?
| > | >
| > | > This is the funniest heresy I've seen in a long time:
| > | > From: JanPB - view profile
| > | > Date: Fri, Mar 10 2006 7:10 am
| > | > " there is a chance the definition of Einstein sync is vacuous."
| > |
| [Jan to Hexer]
| > | Quoted out of context. What I wrote was that the physical assumptions
| > | Einstein makes when stating the postulates "must be verified
| > | experimentally, otherwise there is a chance the definition of Einstein
| > | sync is vacuous."
| > |
| >
| [Hexer to Jan]
| > Yes, well, NASA-JPL have done the "experimental verifying"
| > with clocks on "Cassini" at Saturn and on "Spirit" and "Opportunity"
| > on Mars, hence the definition of Einstein sync is vacuous.
| >
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
| >
| > As the idiot relativist Roberts says, "Real has nothing to do with it."
| > As much smarter hanson says, "as seen, you take that "entertainment"
very
| > very seriously and crank yourself grieveously with and over it."
| >
| > Is it in context now?
| >
| > As always, idiots are the last to know they are idiots and most never
do,
| > especially the arrogant ones.
| > "Let 'em sing, its a beautiful choir" -- hanson.
| > Androcles.
| >
| >
|
|
|
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User: "platopes"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 20 Mar 2006 12:32:52 AM
Traveler wrote:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:56:03 +0000 (UTC),
carlip-nospam@physics.ucdavis.edu wrote:

In sci.physics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/2006/02/testing_times_for_einsteins_th.html


"Research on 'relativity violations' is reaching fever pitch, with the
number of manuscripts on the subject up ten-fold from a decade ago,
physicists heard at the American Association for the Advancement of
Science meeting, held in St Louis, Missouri, on 20 February."


Sure. I have a postdoc who is working on this. This is the way
science works -- it's something the cranks just don't seem to get.
No theory is considered the absolute truth; even the most solidly
confirmed theories are just "how far we've gotten up to now." So
both experimentalists and theorists spend a good deal of energy
picking at these theories, trying to find hints of how to go
farther.


ahahaha... Carlip is one of the biggest ***** kissers on usenet, second
only to John "math puzzles" Baez. ahaha... The fact is that, most of
the mass of the universe is missing because GR has failed miserably in
its predictions. But, rather than acknowledging the failure of GR, the
assholes have taken to blaming the discrepancies on such crap as
unobservable exotic "dark" matter, neutrinos, etc... It's all chicken
feather voodoo physics. ahahaha...

There is no limit to which the zombies will not go to kiss Einstein's
dead skeleton *****. Keep on kissing, Carlip, and thanks for the laughs.
ahahaha...

I don't get how you could miss the fact that one of what you would
term the biggest *****-kissers here, Uncle Al, was engaged in an
experiment to *falsify relativity*.
Why on Earth wouldn't a scientist want that personal triumph?
That Guy Over There
.
User: "Traveler"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 20 Mar 2006 11:23:53 AM
On 19 Mar 2006 22:32:52 -0800, "platopes" <platopes@yahoo.com> wrote:


Traveler wrote:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:56:03 +0000 (UTC),
carlip-nospam@physics.ucdavis.edu wrote:

In sci.physics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/2006/02/testing_times_for_einsteins_th.html


"Research on 'relativity violations' is reaching fever pitch, with the
number of manuscripts on the subject up ten-fold from a decade ago,
physicists heard at the American Association for the Advancement of
Science meeting, held in St Louis, Missouri, on 20 February."


Sure. I have a postdoc who is working on this. This is the way
science works -- it's something the cranks just don't seem to get.
No theory is considered the absolute truth; even the most solidly
confirmed theories are just "how far we've gotten up to now." So
both experimentalists and theorists spend a good deal of energy
picking at these theories, trying to find hints of how to go
farther.


ahahaha... Carlip is one of the biggest ***** kissers on usenet, second
only to John "math puzzles" Baez. ahaha... The fact is that, most of
the mass of the universe is missing because GR has failed miserably in
its predictions. But, rather than acknowledging the failure of GR, the
assholes have taken to blaming the discrepancies on such crap as
unobservable exotic "dark" matter, neutrinos, etc... It's all chicken
feather voodoo physics. ahahaha...

There is no limit to which the zombies will not go to kiss Einstein's
dead skeleton *****. Keep on kissing, Carlip, and thanks for the laughs.
ahahaha...

I don't get how you could miss the fact that one of what you would
term the biggest *****-kissers here, Uncle Al, was engaged in an
experiment to *falsify relativity*.
Why on Earth wouldn't a scientist want that personal triumph?

You don't get it. Uncle ***** puts most ***** kissers I know to
shame. He wants shamelessly kissed John Baez's ***** on usenet to the
point where I felt embarassed for the asswipe. Uncle ***** wants to
be accepted by the establishment, not challenge them. His parity
Eotvos crap was not designed to challenge the current chicken *****
math approach to doing physics. This approach offers no clue as to
what is going on underneath where the real physics actually is. His is
a continuation of the same old *****. If he really wanted to challenge
GR's equivalence principle, he should have shown that the EP is not
strictly adhered to by the relativists themeselves. The EP, if taken
to its ultimate significance, actually assumes instantaneous gravity.
Just think about the elevator analogy a little and you will have to
agree.
Uncle ***** offers no reason to support his assumption that parity
has anything to do with gravity. By the same token, the relativists
offer no explanation for the EP. The assholes are not interested in
real physics. They are only interested in writing math equations
without explaining why they hold. When pressed, the stupid senile
motherfuckers (ahahaha...) will reply that science is not about
causes. I say, ***** them and the stinking mule they sleep with.
ahahaha...
Making phun of "physicists" is so much phucking phun. ahahaha...
PS to Bielawski. I'm a little busy right now but don't think for a
moment that I'm gonna let you have the last word, *****. ahahaha...
In your reply to my last post, you sound like you're over seventy or
something. I think it's time for all the old fartheads to croak,
retire or shut the ***** up, so that the younger generation can rid the
world of their geratric physics. ahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha...
Louis Savain
Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix It:
http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm
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User: ""

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 20 Mar 2006 11:55:01 AM
I wrote:
[...]

He wants shamelessly kissed John Baez's ***** on usenet to the
point where I felt embarassed for the asswipe.

Ok. Ineed more sleep. The above should have been:

He once shamelessly kissed John Baez's ***** on usenet to the
point where I felt embarassed for the asswipe.

ahahaha... The message is the same as before.
Louis Savain
.



User: "Wilson"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 21 Mar 2006 04:43:45 PM
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:56:03 +0000 (UTC),

wrote:

In sci.physics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/2006/02/testing_times_for_einsteins_th.html


"Research on 'relativity violations' is reaching fever pitch, with the
number of manuscripts on the subject up ten-fold from a decade ago,
physicists heard at the American Association for the Advancement of
Science meeting, held in St Louis, Missouri, on 20 February."


Sure. I have a postdoc who is working on this.

Good, Let's bury Einstein forever.
Ask him to perform my moon relay 'OWLS comparison' experiment.
A description is at www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/moonrelay.jpg

This is the way
science works -- it's something the cranks just don't seem to get.
No theory is considered the absolute truth; even the most solidly
confirmed theories are just "how far we've gotten up to now." So
both experimentalists and theorists spend a good deal of energy
picking at these theories, trying to find hints of how to go
farther.

The other part that the cranks don't get is that the people looking
for "relativity violations"
(1) really understand relativity (including the experimental tests
confirming its predictions), so they know what to look for;
(2) are looking to the future (quantum gravity, for instance),
not trying to dig up discredited ideas from the past;
(3) look for real evidence, and admit it if they don't find any.

The part Pentcho Valev didn't quote from the article he cited is

"These effects are so subtle and minute that machines are being
built that can detect changes in mass, for example, one billion
times smaller than that of a postage stamp. The latest instruments
can get down to these required scales, but they haven't found any
violations yet."

Steve Carlip

HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
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User: "JanPB"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 21 Mar 2006 04:49:08 PM
Henri Wilson wrote:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:56:03 +0000 (UTC),


wrote:


Sure. I have a postdoc who is working on this.


Good, Let's bury Einstein forever.

Why do you make such a big deal out of Einstein in particular? All
theories in physics are subject to exactly the same scrutiny and they
all fall sooner or later (where "fall" does not necessary imply
useless), it's all fairly routine. There has never been an exception to
this - so what's the deal with Einstein, of all physicists, to be
constantly picked on by amateurs?
--
Jan Bielawski
.
User: "Hexenmeister"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 21 Mar 2006 07:15:36 PM
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142981348.263588.155000@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| Henri Wilson wrote:
| > On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:56:03 +0000 (UTC),
carlip-nospam@physics.ucdavis.edu
| > wrote:
| > >
| > >Sure. I have a postdoc who is working on this.
| >
| > Good, Let's bury Einstein forever.
|
| Why do you make such a big deal out of Einstein in particular? All
| theories in physics are subject to exactly the same scrutiny and they
| all fall sooner or later (where "fall" does not necessary imply
| useless), it's all fairly routine. There has never been an exception to
| this - so what's the deal with Einstein, of all physicists, to be
| constantly picked on by amateurs?
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Nikola Tesla about Relativity
... Either they have secret meanings known only to you (in which case
you should define
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authors
NUTCASES, Get Your Facts Straight, Direct From The Documents
... I don't think
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Directions Peeves: Just me?
... Unfortunately the store I went to didn't have the "T" bars
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Does the 'Curvature of Spacetime' cause gravity?
... Words, words, words. Until you produce an argument all this is
just talk. I
don't think
sci.physics.relativity - Sep 15 2005, 2:01 am by JanPB - 233
messages - 28 authors
AJP article proves that relativists are cornered real bad
... other is "cornered real bad"? I don't think
sci.physics.relativity - Mar 22, 12:06 am by JanPB - 13 messages - 6
authors
Invalidity of Special Theory of Relativity
... existed. How? And what has "clock synch drift" got to do with the
2nd
"postulate." I don't think
sci.physics - Mar 4, 2:25 am by JanPB - 352 messages - 38 authors
Vacation Responses
I don't think
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User: "hanson"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 21 Mar 2006 11:14:17 PM
ahahaha... AHAHAHA... yeah, yeah, keep this thread alive, Andro.
Its subject line produces and causes all the relativity fanatics to
*************** Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ****************
ahahaha... ahahanson


"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote in message
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"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Henri Wilson wrote:
| > On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:56:03 +0000 (UTC),
carlip-nospam@physics.ucdavis.edu
| > wrote:
| > >
| > >Sure. I have a postdoc who is working on this.
| >
| > Good, Let's bury Einstein forever.
|
| Why do you make such a big deal out of Einstein in particular? All
| theories in physics are subject to exactly the same scrutiny and they
| all fall sooner or later (where "fall" does not necessary imply
| useless), it's all fairly routine. There has never been an exception to
| this - so what's the deal with Einstein, of all physicists, to be
| constantly picked on by amateurs?

Sorted by relevance Sort by date
Bile awski the Janitor.
... 0,0,20)) = 20 ? Yes. WOW. I don't think
sci.physics.relativity - Oct 6 2005, 1:58 am by JanPB - 90 messages -
9 authors

Nikola Tesla about Relativity
... Either they have secret meanings known only to you (in which case
you should define
them at the top of your post as I don't think
sci.physics.relativity - Jan 9, 10:45 pm by JanPB - 56 messages - 16
authors

NUTCASES, Get Your Facts Straight, Direct From The Documents
... I don't think
sci.physics.relativity - Jan 13, 9:15 am by JanPB - 31 messages - 9
authors

Directions Peeves: Just me?
... Unfortunately the store I went to didn't have the "T" bars
installed. I don't think
rec.bicycles.misc - Jan 25, 2:17 am by JanPB - 71 messages - 30
authors

Does the 'Curvature of Spacetime' cause gravity?
... Words, words, words. Until you produce an argument all this is
just talk. I
don't think
sci.physics.relativity - Sep 15 2005, 2:01 am by JanPB - 233
messages - 28 authors

AJP article proves that relativists are cornered real bad
... other is "cornered real bad"? I don't think
sci.physics.relativity - Mar 22, 12:06 am by JanPB - 13 messages - 6
authors

Invalidity of Special Theory of Relativity
... existed. How? And what has "clock synch drift" got to do with the
2nd
"postulate." I don't think
sci.physics - Mar 4, 2:25 am by JanPB - 352 messages - 38 authors

Vacation Responses
I don't think
Gmail Help Discussion > Past Discussions - Dec 25 2004, 2:42 am by
JanPB - 3 messages - 3 authors


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User: "JanPB"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 22 Mar 2006 01:27:51 AM
hanson wrote:

ahahaha... AHAHAHA... yeah, yeah, keep this thread alive, Andro.
Its subject line produces and causes all the relativity fanatics to
*************** Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ****************
ahahaha... ahahanson

What makes you think I am a "relativity fanatic"?
--
Jan Bielawski
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User: "Hexenmeister"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 22 Mar 2006 04:34:06 AM
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143012471.124482.75310@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| hanson wrote:
| > ahahaha... AHAHAHA... yeah, yeah, keep this thread alive, Andro.
| > Its subject line produces and causes all the relativity fanatics to
| > *************** Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ****************
| > ahahaha... ahahanson
|
| What makes you think I am a "relativity fanatic"?
|
| --
| Jan Bielawski
I see no statement "Bilewacky is a relativity fanatic" from hanson,
all I see is a statement "I am a relativity fanatic" and a question
"What makes you think?" from Bilewacky combined into a single
sentence.
hanson thinks on autopilot, it come naturally to him.
He doesn't have to think about thinking, whereas you often do,
telling us you don't think. We understand that, and we understand
your curiousity about the process of thinking since you are unable
to do it.
Let's face it, how many years have you been telling the world that
you checked Einstein's paper and found no error, yet now you tell
us there is a chance his sync definition may be vacuous?
At this rate you must be thinking about Einstein's paper at the
enormous speed of one word a day while not thinking about
anything else.
Intelligent people think at 10 words a second,
normal people at 1 word a second,
subnormal people can manage 1 word a minute,
morons at 1 word an hour.
I'd explain logarithms to you but nobody lives that long,
so its down to the nitty gritty of the empty head, you see?
Androcles.
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User: "hanson"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 22 Mar 2006 11:28:59 AM
[hanson to Androcles]

ahahaha... AHAHAHA... yeah, yeah, keep this thread alive, Andro.
Its subject line produces and causes all the relativity fanatics to
*************** Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ****************
ahahaha... ahahanson


[Jan to hanson]

What makes you think I am a "relativity fanatic"?
Jan Bielawski

[hanson]
guilt ridden "JanPB" <filmFart@gmail.com> wasn't even asked,
but he, as a disciple of Albertism, has demonstrated how badly
the ********** Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ************
has victimized him after realizing that relativity AND 2-3 dollars
will buy him a cup of coffee but that relativity will absolutely not.
More fun about the hilarious and devastating effects of the
*************** Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ************** in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/218f84c5a84513b5
..... ahahaha... Thanks for the laughs you panicked Einstein fanatics.
ahahahaha... ahahahanson
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User: "Hexenmeister"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 22 Mar 2006 11:58:06 AM
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:vPfUf.5200$I7.2378@trnddc03...
| [hanson to Androcles]
| >> ahahaha... AHAHAHA... yeah, yeah, keep this thread alive, Andro.
| >> Its subject line produces and causes all the relativity fanatics to
| >> *************** Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ****************
| >> ahahaha... ahahanson
| >
| [Jan to hanson]
| > What makes you think I am a "relativity fanatic"?
| > Jan Bielawski
| >
| [hanson]
| guilt ridden "JanPB" <filmFart@gmail.com> wasn't even asked,
| but he, as a disciple of Albertism, has demonstrated how badly
| the ********** Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ************
| has victimized him after realizing that relativity AND 2-3 dollars
| will buy him a cup of coffee but that relativity will absolutely not.
| More fun about the hilarious and devastating effects of the
| *************** Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult ************** in
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/218f84c5a84513b5
| .... ahahaha... Thanks for the laughs you panicked Einstein fanatics.
| ahahahaha... ahahahanson
filmFart is his company, he rents old VHS movies for a crust.
Now and then he flies from LA to Berlin looking for some decent
Europorn to sell to Hollywood, Belair and Beverly Hills. I heard
Michael Jaxonandov is one of his favourite customers.
Androcles.
.





User: "Wilson"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 23 Mar 2006 05:55:29 PM
On 21 Mar 2006 14:49:08 -0800, "JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

Henri Wilson wrote:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:56:03 +0000 (UTC),


wrote:


Sure. I have a postdoc who is working on this.


Good, Let's bury Einstein forever.


Why do you make such a big deal out of Einstein in particular? All
theories in physics are subject to exactly the same scrutiny and they
all fall sooner or later (where "fall" does not necessary imply
useless), it's all fairly routine. There has never been an exception to
this - so what's the deal with Einstein, of all physicists, to be
constantly picked on by amateurs?

Einstein's relativity is not a physical theory. It is a typical religion,
supported by christianity because it clearly supports the view that the Earth
is the centre of the universe.
"All starlight in the universe is specifically designed to travel to little
planet Earth at c", _______Einstein.
HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
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User: "JanPB"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 23 Mar 2006 07:00:14 PM
Henri Wilson wrote:

On 21 Mar 2006 14:49:08 -0800, "JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

Henri Wilson wrote:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:56:03 +0000 (UTC),


wrote:


Sure. I have a postdoc who is working on this.


Good, Let's bury Einstein forever.


Why do you make such a big deal out of Einstein in particular? All
theories in physics are subject to exactly the same scrutiny and they
all fall sooner or later (where "fall" does not necessary imply
useless), it's all fairly routine. There has never been an exception to
this - so what's the deal with Einstein, of all physicists, to be
constantly picked on by amateurs?


Einstein's relativity is not a physical theory. It is a typical religion,
supported by christianity because it clearly supports the view that the Earth
is the centre of the universe.

In what way is it "not a physical theory"?
--
Jan Bielawski
.
User: "Hexenmeister"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 23 Mar 2006 10:40:06 PM
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143162014.455021.109220@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
| Henri Wilson wrote:
| > On 21 Mar 2006 14:49:08 -0800, "JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:
| >
| > >Henri Wilson wrote:
| > >> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:56:03 +0000 (UTC),
carlip-nospam@physics.ucdavis.edu
| > >> wrote:
| > >> >
| > >> >Sure. I have a postdoc who is working on this.
| > >>
| > >> Good, Let's bury Einstein forever.
| > >
| > >Why do you make such a big deal out of Einstein in particular? All
| > >theories in physics are subject to exactly the same scrutiny and they
| > >all fall sooner or later (where "fall" does not necessary imply
| > >useless), it's all fairly routine. There has never been an exception to
| > >this - so what's the deal with Einstein, of all physicists, to be
| > >constantly picked on by amateurs?
| >
| > Einstein's relativity is not a physical theory. It is a typical
religion,
| > supported by christianity because it clearly supports the view that the
Earth
| > is the centre of the universe.
|
| In what way is it "not a physical theory"?
"For velocities greater than that of light our deliberations become
meaningless; we shall, however, find in what follows, that the velocity of
light in our theory plays the part, physically, of an infinitely great
velocity." -- Einstein.
In modern physics the velocity of light is 299,792.4562 kilometers per
second, plus or minus 1.1 meters per second.
You are 101 years out of date, Bielwacky. Go ahead, panic.
Androcles.
.

User: "Wilson"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 23 Mar 2006 10:12:32 PM
On 23 Mar 2006 17:00:14 -0800, "JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

Henri Wilson wrote:

On 21 Mar 2006 14:49:08 -0800, "JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

Henri Wilson wrote:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:56:03 +0000 (UTC),


wrote:


Sure. I have a postdoc who is working on this.


Good, Let's bury Einstein forever.


Why do you make such a big deal out of Einstein in particular? All
theories in physics are subject to exactly the same scrutiny and they
all fall sooner or later (where "fall" does not necessary imply
useless), it's all fairly routine. There has never been an exception to
this - so what's the deal with Einstein, of all physicists, to be
constantly picked on by amateurs?


Einstein's relativity is not a physical theory. It is a typical religion,
supported by christianity because it clearly supports the view that the Earth
is the centre of the universe.


In what way is it "not a physical theory"?

It has to revert to aether theory to connect with anything in the REAL
universe.
HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
.
User: "JanPB"

Title: Re: Panic in Einstein's Criminal Cult 23 Mar 2006 11:33:07 PM
Henri Wilson wrote:

On 23 Mar 2006 17:00:14 -0800, "JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

Henri Wilson wrote:

Einstein's relativity is not a physical theory. It is a typical religion,
supported by christianity because it clearly supports the view that the Earth
is the centre of the universe.


In what way is it "not a physical theory"?


It has to revert to aether theory to connect with anything in the REAL
universe.

Where does SR revert to aether theory?
--
Jan Bielawski
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