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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "blackboab"
Date: 08 Oct 2005 02:31:02 AM
Object: PHOTONS and SR
a muon travelling close to the speed of light gets heavier , it gets
contracted and its lifetime increases.
if we imagine a photon at sub light speed :
a photon has no rest mass
as it velocity approaches c its mass is unaffected.
take gamma = sqrt (1 - v^2/c^2)
at v=c , gamma = 0
at c it still has no mass as gamma * zero is still zero
its lenth is contracted until it becomes zero at c as l * gamma = l * 0
= 0
its lifetime becomes infinite as t/gamma = t /0 = infinity
therefore a photon has zero mass, infinite life and takes up no space
whatsoever just like a point in a cartesian co-ordinate system.
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User: "blackboab"

Title: Re: PHOTONS and SR 08 Oct 2005 02:35:29 AM
that should read
mass = 0 / gamma = 0/0 which is an indeterminate form which can be
zero in some cases .
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: PHOTONS and SR 08 Oct 2005 11:32:58 AM
blackboab wrote:


a muon travelling close to the speed of light gets heavier , it gets
contracted and its lifetime increases.

Nothing changes in its own reference frame. Special Relativity is a
point of view effect defined by the finite propagation speed of
information: lightspeed. Spheres do not contract, they Terrell rotate
unles they are coming right at your nose. Leptons are
zero-dimensional particles. Muons are leptons.

if we imagine a photon at sub light speed :

Idiot, by definition.
[snip crap]

therefore a photon has zero mass, infinite life and takes up no space
whatsoever just like a point in a cartesian co-ordinate system.

Meaningless drivel. Leptons have rest mass and they are still point
particles - including muons. You cannot use an assumption to prove
its derivation. Tommy Aquinas was the expert in doing that, and he
was voluably full of *****.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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User: "Paul Cardinale"

Title: Re: PHOTONS and SR 08 Oct 2005 04:36:23 PM
blackboab wrote:

a muon travelling close to the speed of light gets heavier , it gets
contracted and its lifetime increases.

if we imagine a photon at sub light speed :

a photon has no rest mass

Imagining that is equivalent to assuming that SR is incorrect.
In SR, all massless particles always move at c.
Paul Cardinale
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