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"Rex" |
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05 Sep 2007 10:38:19 PM |
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Physics of Consciousness & Momemtum Energy |
Our brains have modules with different functions. For example, If you
remove your amygdala, you would become fearless and females
with lesions in the amygdala can easily be taken advantage of.
If you have damage with the prefrontal cortex, you would have
problem ordering your life. Some lesions are more dramatic
because you can lose short term memory like in the movie "50
First Dates" where the girl loses all memory of the previous
day and she has to be courted everyday. Then there are
those with damages in some parts (or modules) in the brain
where they can't recognize human faces or even see
continuous motions, the victims see the worlds as pictures
in slides without any continuous perception. This shows our
brain has a lot to do with our consciousness. Yet in spite of
it. We can use consciousness to interact with the most
fundamental matter and even spacetime such as that we
can remote view, astral project and even teleport objects with
the power of our mind. How do you explain this? It's as if
a human being with his mind and brain and collective
biochemical ingredients can form emergence properties
which coincidentally can interact with the most
fundamental reality of matter, energy and spacetime. How
can this happen unless somehow we humans originally
can function as pure energy and this body that we inhabit
are artificial containers to restrict our freedom, our powers
and our capability?? Or if this is not the case, how come
human beings being building blocks of biochemical
reactions can form self-awareness that can interact with
momentum-energy or even the manifold itself? This can
only happen if our human body is conspired to be
created by the universe so it can give birth to conscousness
that can control the universe?? What do you think?
rex
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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| Title: Re: Physics of Consciousness & Momemtum Energy |
05 Sep 2007 10:50:31 PM |
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"Rex" <relativitexcalibur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189049899.585238.7920@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Our brains have modules with different functions. For example, If you
remove your amygdala, you would become fearless and females
with lesions in the amygdala can easily be taken advantage of.
If you have damage with the prefrontal cortex, you would have
problem ordering your life. Some lesions are more dramatic
because you can lose short term memory like in the movie "50
First Dates" where the girl loses all memory of the previous
day and she has to be courted everyday. Then there are
those with damages in some parts (or modules) in the brain
where they can't recognize human faces or even see
continuous motions, the victims see the worlds as pictures
in slides without any continuous perception. This shows our
brain has a lot to do with our consciousness.
Yes
Yet in spite of
it. We can use consciousness to interact with the most
fundamental matter and even spacetime such as that we
can remote view, astral project and even teleport objects with
the power of our mind.
Can we? Scientific evidence and research to back up this assertion would be
required
How do you explain this?
First you have to show it is true
[snip wild guesses]
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| User: "Rex" |
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| Title: Re: Physics of Consciousness & Momemtum Energy |
05 Sep 2007 11:57:45 PM |
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On Sep 6, 11:50 am, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Rex" <relativitexcali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189049899.585238.7920@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Our brains have modules with different functions. For example, If you
remove your amygdala, you would become fearless and females
with lesions in the amygdala can easily be taken advantage of.
If you have damage with the prefrontal cortex, you would have
problem ordering your life. Some lesions are more dramatic
because you can lose short term memory like in the movie "50
First Dates" where the girl loses all memory of the previous
day and she has to be courted everyday. Then there are
those with damages in some parts (or modules) in the brain
where they can't recognize human faces or even see
continuous motions, the victims see the worlds as pictures
in slides without any continuous perception. This shows our
brain has a lot to do with our consciousness.
Yes
Yet in spite of
it. We can use consciousness to interact with the most
fundamental matter and even spacetime such as that we
can remote view, astral project and even teleport objects with
the power of our mind.
Can we? Scientific evidence and research to back up this assertion would be
required
How do you explain this?
First you have to show it is true
[snip wild guesses]
If human beings are just accidents of nature and our
biochemical makeups just a consequence of
darwinian evolution. Then the finished product
humans should only have consciousness that is
self-contained that won't have anything to do
with the fundemental constituents of the universe.
However, it has everything to do with them. One
possibility is that there is a subquantum
reality that somehow coordinate the information
pathway of biochemical evolution and in complex
organisms, the subquantum reality is more primed
and more advanced being able to reflect back
on reality. This is it.. a very plausible explanation.
About proof of teleporations, remote viewing, etc.
Gees. Just spend some time out there in the field
and you will see it. Of course you have to shift
thru the noise and the quality data. I spent 25 years on
these things and have met people that came right out
of the X-men or the Heroes. It's real. So after
pondering on it, the answer is that what coordinates
biological evolution is a subquantum force with
negative entropy that builds up to form human
consciousness that can directly interact with
the fundamental forces of the universe... this means
humans are not designed but it so happens that
we are part of the evolution of complexities. This is
more like it right guys?
rex
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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| Title: Re: Physics of Consciousness & Momemtum Energy |
06 Sep 2007 02:02:59 AM |
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"Rex" <relativitexcalibur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189054665.054910.189600@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 6, 11:50 am, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Rex" <relativitexcali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189049899.585238.7920@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Our brains have modules with different functions. For example, If you
remove your amygdala, you would become fearless and females
with lesions in the amygdala can easily be taken advantage of.
If you have damage with the prefrontal cortex, you would have
problem ordering your life. Some lesions are more dramatic
because you can lose short term memory like in the movie "50
First Dates" where the girl loses all memory of the previous
day and she has to be courted everyday. Then there are
those with damages in some parts (or modules) in the brain
where they can't recognize human faces or even see
continuous motions, the victims see the worlds as pictures
in slides without any continuous perception. This shows our
brain has a lot to do with our consciousness.
Yes
Yet in spite of
it. We can use consciousness to interact with the most
fundamental matter and even spacetime such as that we
can remote view, astral project and even teleport objects with
the power of our mind.
Can we? Scientific evidence and research to back up this assertion would
be
required
How do you explain this?
First you have to show it is true
[snip wild guesses]
If human beings are just accidents of nature and our
biochemical makeups just a consequence of
darwinian evolution. Then the finished product
humans should only have consciousness that is
self-contained that won't have anything to do
with the fundemental constituents of the universe.
That doesn't follow
However, it has everything to do with them.
Really .. what?
One
possibility is that there is a subquantum
reality that somehow coordinate the information
pathway of biochemical evolution and in complex
organisms, the subquantum reality is more primed
and more advanced being able to reflect back
on reality. This is it.. a very plausible explanation.
Possibly .. although what you've said is mostly hand waving and
name-dropping of tehcnical terms. That does not mean we didn't evolve that
way.
About proof of teleporations, remote viewing, etc.
Gees. Just spend some time out there in the field
and you will see it.
Which field is that .. all the fields near me have cows and grass in them.
Of course you have to shift
thru the noise and the quality data. I spent 25 years on
these things and have met people that came right out
of the X-men or the Heroes. It's real.
It may be .. what is it that you are actually seeing is a tougher question
So after
pondering on it, the answer is that what coordinates
biological evolution is a subquantum force with
negative entropy that builds up to form human
consciousness that can directly interact with
the fundamental forces of the universe... this means
humans are not designed but it so happens that
we are part of the evolution of complexities. This is
more like it right guys?
What a tasty dish of word salad. Can I have mine with fries next time?
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| User: "Rex" |
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| Title: Re: Physics of Consciousness & Momemtum Energy |
06 Sep 2007 02:56:57 AM |
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On Sep 6, 3:02 pm, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Rex" <relativitexcali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189054665.054910.189600@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 6, 11:50 am, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Rex" <relativitexcali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189049899.585238.7920@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Our brains have modules with different functions. For example, If you
remove your amygdala, you would become fearless and females
with lesions in the amygdala can easily be taken advantage of.
If you have damage with the prefrontal cortex, you would have
problem ordering your life. Some lesions are more dramatic
because you can lose short term memory like in the movie "50
First Dates" where the girl loses all memory of the previous
day and she has to be courted everyday. Then there are
those with damages in some parts (or modules) in the brain
where they can't recognize human faces or even see
continuous motions, the victims see the worlds as pictures
in slides without any continuous perception. This shows our
brain has a lot to do with our consciousness.
Yes
Yet in spite of
it. We can use consciousness to interact with the most
fundamental matter and even spacetime such as that we
can remote view, astral project and even teleport objects with
the power of our mind.
Can we? Scientific evidence and research to back up this assertion would
be
required
How do you explain this?
First you have to show it is true
[snip wild guesses]
If human beings are just accidents of nature and our
biochemical makeups just a consequence of
darwinian evolution. Then the finished product
humans should only have consciousness that is
self-contained that won't have anything to do
with the fundemental constituents of the universe.
That doesn't follow
What I meant to say is. If humans and our mind
are just accidents of nature, then it should be
isolated and won't have anything to do with
controlling spacetime itself as well as the momentum
energy tensor and quantum mechanics right down
to their constituents.. that is.. a fully developed
mind can materialize objects as well as teleport
objects.. this means not only does the mind
can control spacetime, stress energy and
quantum objects but they can access stuff
that our physics haven't even discovered yet.
However, it has everything to do with them.
Really .. what?
Just described above. In other words, Materialization
and dematerialization of macroscopic objects as
well as teleportation of things like tables
needs full operational and tactical control of
spacetime, stress energy and quantum mechanics..
or even quantum gravity and beyond. How can human
consciousness have such control over them if our
biological evolution is just accidental and esp in
light of the module light functions of consciousness
in our brain.
One
possibility is that there is a subquantum
reality that somehow coordinate the information
pathway of biochemical evolution and in complex
organisms, the subquantum reality is more primed
and more advanced being able to reflect back
on reality. This is it.. a very plausible explanation.
Possibly .. although what you've said is mostly hand waving and
name-dropping of tehcnical terms. That does not mean we didn't evolve that
way.
We may evolve that way and it's possible as our mind develops.
We can access the negative entropy field that science has not
studied yet. That is.. in addition to Higgs Fields, Inflatons,
there are other fields not yet discovered like negative entropy
field that in(forms) our human biology and mind.
About proof of teleporations, remote viewing, etc.
Gees. Just spend some time out there in the field
and you will see it.
Which field is that .. all the fields near me have cows and grass in them.
Just search thru the literature. If you won't even start it. You
won't find any.
Of course you have to shift
thru the noise and the quality data. I spent 25 years on
these things and have met people that came right out
of the X-men or the Heroes. It's real.
It may be .. what is it that you are actually seeing is a tougher question
Since ancient times, such powers have already existed but
the reason you can't hear about them in the open is because
of the obvious danger if they are fully public domain.. although
if one search deeper, it's just out there and of course you
have to shift thru them.
So after
pondering on it, the answer is that what coordinates
biological evolution is a subquantum force with
negative entropy that builds up to form human
consciousness that can directly interact with
the fundamental forces of the universe... this means
humans are not designed but it so happens that
we are part of the evolution of complexities. This is
more like it right guys?
What a tasty dish of word salad. Can I have mine with fries next time?- Hide quoted text -
To study deeper would delve further into stuff like quantum gravity
and beyond and you know we are many decades from it. So
sometimes it is just frustrating that we are just on the surface
of it tackling only the most fundamental like SR, GR, QM, QFT
which is just tip of the iceburg. Sometimes I just want to forget
about it all but it always lingers esp. the thought how come
our consciousness being so biologically based (functional
neuroscience) has the power to create or uncreate reality
as if our human body is just a seed and the purpose why
nature chooses the particular sets of constants of nature
is for our consciousness to control the universe. One can
be contended with this thought and stop the search and
just consider it existing a priori but there is the thought
what if our human body is really a prison and this universe
is just fake one that is designed to enslave us. Can one
know this.
rex
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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| Title: Re: Physics of Consciousness & Momemtum Energy |
06 Sep 2007 03:43:53 AM |
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"Rex" <relativitexcalibur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189065417.395967.103150@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
Just described above. In other words, Materialization
and dematerialization of macroscopic objects as
well as teleportation of things like tables
needs full operational and tactical control of
spacetime, stress energy and quantum mechanics..
or even quantum gravity and beyond. How can human
consciousness have such control over them if our
biological evolution is just accidental and esp in
light of the module light functions of consciousness
in our brain.
I suggest you go here and make yourself some money
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html
and join the many who have applied (no one has claimed the prize yet)
http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=43
perhaps you know of a demonstrable effect like the topmost applicant on the
list
"ROSEMARY HUNTER - Paranormal Urination "
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| User: "Rex" |
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| Title: Re: Physics of Consciousness & Momemtum Energy |
06 Sep 2007 04:19:27 AM |
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On Sep 6, 4:43 pm, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Rex" <relativitexcali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189065417.395967.103150@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
Just described above. In other words, Materialization
and dematerialization of macroscopic objects as
well as teleportation of things like tables
needs full operational and tactical control of
spacetime, stress energy and quantum mechanics..
or even quantum gravity and beyond. How can human
consciousness have such control over them if our
biological evolution is just accidental and esp in
light of the module light functions of consciousness
in our brain.
I suggest you go here and make yourself some money
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html
and join the many who have applied (no one has claimed the prize yet)http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=43
perhaps you know of a demonstrable effect like the topmost applicant on the
list
"ROSEMARY HUNTER - Paranormal Urination "
Yes. I wonder why no one has claimed the prize yet. Could
there be some cover up to protect it? Note all humans who
have power to teleport objects fall into two categories. The
Black Adept or Sorcerer uses spells (read: living
mathematics in the platonic realm that is programmable)
and aided by elementals (quantum entities noting that
life can also evolve in pure quantum realm beyond
copenhagen) in their quest to control matter, energy
and spacetime. While White Adept uses the power of the soul
(general for Intelligence Design source of the universe)
to materiarize and teleport matter. So you see. Both
are extremely powerful people. The Black Adept has many
black budget projects like creating body containers to house
elementalal spirits (some of these are the so called
Greys which are not aliens but only the genetic projects
of the Black Adept) while the White Adept have as complex
ambitions as their counterpart that involves billions of
dollars. So you see, perhaps the reason why no one
claims the $1 Randi Prize is because the powers that
be (both White and Black Adept) wants to protect the
interests of their existence so they can neutralize
temporarily the abilities of anyone who may get near
Randi?
Well. You may say I'm deranged or watched too much
movies but this is what I found out about 25 years of
investigation (the existence of the Black and White
Adepts and their disciples of Magick). I was even caught
in the crossfire in their battle and glad not to be involved with
any of their kind anymore.
From the dawn of time they existed... moving silently
down through the centuries, leading many secret lives.
It is within logic that they won't want to claim a mere
million dollars as well as protecting it when their interests
amount to billions and the destinies of nations are their
game.
Rex
I really wish I were deranged. In fact. I'd be more glad if
the above were not true and humans had only brain
as the final consciousness generator without connection
to anything. This means we are not accountable for
anything even if we nuke an entire planet full of
humans (read animals with only biological resources
without any souls).
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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| Title: Re: Physics of Consciousness & Momemtum Energy |
06 Sep 2007 04:42:25 AM |
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"Rex" <relativitexcalibur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189070367.837067.158510@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 6, 4:43 pm, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Rex" <relativitexcali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189065417.395967.103150@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
Just described above. In other words, Materialization
and dematerialization of macroscopic objects as
well as teleportation of things like tables
needs full operational and tactical control of
spacetime, stress energy and quantum mechanics..
or even quantum gravity and beyond. How can human
consciousness have such control over them if our
biological evolution is just accidental and esp in
light of the module light functions of consciousness
in our brain.
I suggest you go here and make yourself some money
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html
and join the many who have applied (no one has claimed the prize
yet)http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=43
perhaps you know of a demonstrable effect like the topmost applicant on
the
list
"ROSEMARY HUNTER - Paranormal Urination "
Yes. I wonder why no one has claimed the prize yet. Could
there be some cover up to protect it?
Unlikely
[snip further sinking into fantasy]
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| User: "Rex" |
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| Title: Re: Physics of Consciousness & Momemtum Energy |
06 Sep 2007 05:16:35 AM |
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On Sep 6, 5:42 pm, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Rex" <relativitexcali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189070367.837067.158510@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 6, 4:43 pm, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Rex" <relativitexcali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189065417.395967.103150@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
Just described above. In other words, Materialization
and dematerialization of macroscopic objects as
well as teleportation of things like tables
needs full operational and tactical control of
spacetime, stress energy and quantum mechanics..
or even quantum gravity and beyond. How can human
consciousness have such control over them if our
biological evolution is just accidental and esp in
light of the module light functions of consciousness
in our brain.
I suggest you go here and make yourself some money
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html
and join the many who have applied (no one has claimed the prize
yet)http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=43
perhaps you know of a demonstrable effect like the topmost applicant on
the
list
"ROSEMARY HUNTER - Paranormal Urination "
Yes. I wonder why no one has claimed the prize yet. Could
there be some cover up to protect it?
Unlikely
[snip further sinking into fantasy]- Hide quoted text -
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Suit yourself.
Frankly. This all is irrelevant in our life. According
to the GR Legend Tom Roberts. One needs
89D + 2 time embedding dimensions to embed
our generic GR spacetime manifold. Does this
mean the 89D+2 is the Mind? Well. Thinking
of this beyond quantum gravity stuff can damage
our brains. Now to explore the White And Black
Adept is not healthy either. It can also damage
our equilibrium. Therefore I'd just make a tactical
retreat from all this and perhaps just focus on
neuroscience and basic stuff as far as our
educational needs is concerned. This way. We
preserve our sanity and health and become
more responsible members in society.
Nuff said.
Rex
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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| Title: Re: Physics of Consciousness & Momemtum Energy |
06 Sep 2007 03:28:17 AM |
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"Rex" <relativitexcalibur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189065417.395967.103150@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 6, 3:02 pm, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Rex" <relativitexcali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
If human beings are just accidents of nature and our
biochemical makeups just a consequence of
darwinian evolution. Then the finished product
humans should only have consciousness that is
self-contained that won't have anything to do
with the fundemental constituents of the universe.
That doesn't follow
What I meant to say is. If humans and our mind
are just accidents of nature, then it should be
isolated and won't have anything to do with
controlling spacetime itself as well as the momentum
energy tensor and quantum mechanics right down
to their constituents
As I said .. that doesn't follow.
.. that is.. a fully developed
mind can materialize objects as well as teleport
objects.. this means not only does the mind
can control spacetime, stress energy and
quantum objects but they can access stuff
that our physics haven't even discovered yet.
Now you're getting WAY into the realms of fanasy
However, it has everything to do with them.
Really .. what?
Just described above.
In other words, Materialization
and dematerialization of macroscopic objects
OK .. you're just being silly now. Wild claims and tossing about technical
terms as if they had some meaning so as to make your post sound
authoritative.
[snip]
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