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Plato's World Examined |
A Story of a Walk
Douglas Eagleson, 2004
Plato’s world is a very foundational concept in the sciences.
It is the abstract world where the mind causes its existence. And the
correspondence of this abstract world to the real is the abstraction
itself given form in analogy. Think of the mind’s relation to
the directly sensed world and the rather artificial learning world of
Plato then becomes a harmony of simple abstract form thinking. His
world charts the correspondence of the minds thought to the sensed
world. After study the correspondence of every thought directly to the
sensed environment becomes inevitable.
The concept of exact relations corresponding to the real world,
existing only in the mind’s thoughts, is this story. Plato
translated the form of correspondence to his analogy world. And here
we begin a walk through the world together. And I would hope the
reader would feel the distinct differences in perspective. A short
story to demonstrate correspondence.
A found path begins this walk. A true one, as this in hike to the
lowlands of any true mountain. A nice level path, grassy and given a
well worn rut. A rut from happy people and maybe a deer or squirrel on
a good day. Begin the imaginary walk.
I am walking with you now and will point out the scenery. We move
along and the trees pass by and the leaves overhead move with a wind.
And the face feels only the still air on this walk. A wind only of
walking.
I ask the reader to stop walking.
And here Plato appears also. He smiles and laughs and asks why do we
walk in my imaginary world? On this path only the wind’s moving
leaves are to be seen! Why have us walk and see and feel there also?
And this writer frowns and considers the situation and says,
“Because we are in the forest for this wind examination.”.
And so Plato laughs louder and points to the leaves moving, as
sufficient examination, and again asks, “Why?”.
And here the story begins again and we all are called on to answer his
question while walking and not stopped. So, we hear my answer,
“While present, the wind in relation to the face, forms the
relation of correspondence.” It is an analogy within yours to
allow a trip from your world to the real one.
The walker is called on to only stand and imagine leaves moving with
the unfelt wind.
And now go back to the path walking world, in your imagination. In
this last sentence everybody listened to the words and imagined them.
And left your path world and returned. No capacity exists for the
leaving to not have occurred. Imagine back and forth between worlds.
Perfect correspondence is itself seen. The walking appears and
disappears in relation to the moving leaves.
And now we see the last walk. The face is added.
And here I ask it to exist in both worlds. A common element to
correspond. Abstract correspondence is just this element’s
common effect. A face real or imagined is abstract correspondence, two
properties to this face!
And here the real reason for the walk imagined was the wind’s
example. The wind on the face in relation to the winds on the leaves,
becomes proof of the wind’s existence in the trees. Abstract
correspondence of the face, while imagined correspondence of the two
winds was Plato’s kind, distinguishs, yours and mine.
Abstraction itself in relation to correspondence is this last example.
Abstraction of the subject, relative to imagined subject. An
existential form of Plato’s form is the next example. Subject,
relative to the imagined, becomes the means of walking abstractly in
Plato’s world!
And all Plato will say is “How come we are pedantic?” I
get to say, “Because walking from one world to the next, is the
abstract face walking.”
And he asks “What purpose would you propose for this
face?” And, “The thoughts are translated language to
language, by subject and not abstract existence, making the dilemma
here a translator’s nightmare.”
All would ask why relations of nature are unconsidered? And the
answer for these modern times is because the translation was poor, and
we were all very blind. Every sense extended by machines will still
exhibit this correspondence of Plato’s world. Only if
imagination is lost would the benefit be lost.
And here if lost and the imagination needs re-lighting please just
walk with your face between the worlds.
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Plato's World Examined |
17 Apr 2004 09:08:35 PM |
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wrote:
A Story of a Walk
Douglas Eagleson, 2004
[snip]
Hey Eagleson - could you succeed at suicide? give it the old college
(OK - day care) try.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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| Title: Re: Plato's World Examined |
19 Apr 2004 07:13:58 AM |
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:4081E323.84C04F6B@hate.spam.net...
fuminggreen@yahoo.com wrote:
A Story of a Walk
Douglas Eagleson, 2004
[snip]
Hey Eagleson - could you succeed at suicide? give it the old college
(OK - day care) try.
He could take lessons from Peter Brown.
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| User: "" |
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18 Apr 2004 01:26:04 PM |
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Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<4081E323.84C04F6B@hate.spam.net>...
fuminggreen@yahoo.com wrote:
A Story of a Walk
Douglas Eagleson, 2004
[snip]
Hey Eagleson - could you succeed at suicide? give it the old college
(OK - day care) try.
I could shoot at you.
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| User: "Mark Fergerson" |
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| Title: Re: Plato's World Examined |
18 Apr 2004 02:01:56 PM |
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wrote:
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<4081E323.84C04F6B@hate.spam.net>...
wrote:
A Story of a Walk
Douglas Eagleson, 2004
[snip]
Hey Eagleson - could you succeed at suicide? give it the old college
(OK - day care) try.
I could shoot at you.
If you shoot like you write, that should do it.
Mark L. Fergerson
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