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Postulate #1: Time Dilation |
Postulate #1:
Two planes simultaneously take off at c/3 in opposition directions
(West and East) from a Platform used as the inertial reference plane.
*** If both planes travel the same distance and return to the platform
then both the planes clocks will match with each others ***.
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Since Tplanes = gamma Tplatform where gamma= 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
and v is squared therefore (-c/3)^2 = (c/3)^2
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Postulate #1: Time Dilation |
17 Feb 2005 11:58:41 AM |
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wrote:
Postulate #1:
Two planes simultaneously take off at c/3 in opposition directions
(West and East) from a Platform used as the inertial reference plane.
*** If both planes travel the same distance and return to the platform
then both the planes clocks will match with each others ***.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Since Tplanes = gamma Tplatform where gamma= 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
and v is squared therefore (-c/3)^2 = (c/3)^2
1) Hey stooopid - only works for inertial frames.
2) Hey stooopid - how is "distance" measured? Time? By whom? A
relativistic universe has four distinct distances: luminosity (inverse
square), angular diameter, parallax, and proper motion. No two of
them need agree to maintain consistency. Clocks can only be
synchronized by being local.
3) Hey stooopid -
<http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/airtim.html>
Hafele-Keating Experiment
4) Hey stooopid - Annalen der Physik 4, XVII, pp. 891-921 (1905)
5) Hey stooopid - Science 307(5711) 865pp (2005)
6) Hey stooopid - the clock that travels furthest through space
travels least through time, and all that is completely observer
dependent. Distance and time are - HEY STOOOPID - relative.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Postulate #1: Time Dilation |
19 Feb 2005 01:38:27 PM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
guskz@hotmail.com wrote:
Postulate #1:
Two planes simultaneously take off at c/3 in opposition directions
(West and East) from a Platform used as the inertial reference
plane.
*** If both planes travel the same distance and return to the
platform
then both the planes clocks will match with each others ***.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Since Tplanes = gamma Tplatform where gamma= 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
and v is squared therefore (-c/3)^2 = (c/3)^2
1) Hey stooopid - only works for inertial frames.
2) Hey stooopid - how is "distance" measured? Time? By whom? A
relativistic universe has four distinct distances: luminosity
(inverse
square), angular diameter, parallax, and proper motion. No two of
them need agree to maintain consistency. Clocks can only be
synchronized by being local.
3) Hey stooopid -
<http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/airtim.html>
Hafele-Keating Experiment
4) Hey stooopid - Annalen der Physik 4, XVII, pp. 891-921 (1905)
5) Hey stooopid - Science 307(5711) 865pp (2005)
6) Hey stooopid - the clock that travels furthest through space
travels least through time, and all that is completely observer
dependent. Distance and time are - HEY STOOOPID - relative.
What kind ***** fucking dummy are you.
The distance travel is the exact same for both planes from according to
the inertial reference frame DUMMY.
What what frame is that, AL IS TOO MUCH of an idiot to now it was
specified as the platform. OHhhhh said the dummy.
Go AWAY YOU STUPID QUEER, WHAT DO YOU JERK YOURSELF OFF WHILE READIND
and then the stuff splatters in your eyes.
What an imbecile
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Postulate #1: Time Dilation |
19 Feb 2005 03:51:29 PM |
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wrote:
Uncle Al wrote:
wrote:
Postulate #1:
Two planes simultaneously take off at c/3 in opposition
directions
(West and East) from a Platform used as the inertial reference
plane.
*** If both planes travel the same distance and return to the
platform
then both the planes clocks will match with each others ***.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Since Tplanes = gamma Tplatform where gamma= 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
and v is squared therefore (-c/3)^2 = (c/3)^2
1) Hey stooopid - only works for inertial frames.
2) Hey stooopid - how is "distance" measured? Time? By whom?
A
relativistic universe has four distinct distances: luminosity
(inverse
square), angular diameter, parallax, and proper motion. No two of
them need agree to maintain consistency. Clocks can only be
synchronized by being local.
3) Hey stooopid -
<http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/airtim.html>
Hafele-Keating Experiment
4) Hey stooopid - Annalen der Physik 4, XVII, pp. 891-921
(1905)
5) Hey stooopid - Science 307(5711) 865pp (2005)
6) Hey stooopid - the clock that travels furthest through space
travels least through time, and all that is completely observer
dependent. Distance and time are - HEY STOOOPID - relative.
What kind ***** fucking dummy are you.
The distance travel is the exact same for both planes from according
to
the inertial reference frame DUMMY.
What what frame is that, AL IS TOO MUCH of an idiot to now it was
specified as the platform. OHhhhh said the dummy.
Go AWAY YOU STUPID QUEER, WHAT DO YOU JERK YOURSELF OFF WHILE READIND
and then the stuff splatters in your eyes.
Thought so.
Do let us know when you get out of primary school.
What an imbecile
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Postulate #1: Time Dilation |
17 Feb 2005 09:00:28 AM |
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wrote:
Two planes simultaneously take off at c/3 in opposition directions
(West and East) from a Platform used as the inertial reference plane.
Physics FAQ: How Do You Add Velocities in Special Relativity?
http://hermes.physics.adelaide.edu.au/~dkoks/Faq/Relativity/SR/velocity.html
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| User: "Ron Poteet" |
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| Title: Re: Postulate #1: Time Dilation |
17 Feb 2005 11:22:55 AM |
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Dear Sir,
For over thirty years I've been studying the unresolved questions in
physics. Each time a new question appears it adds a new hint to the
unresolved issues of physics. A few months ago while I was reading a book on
the history of the square root of minus one I had an incredible moment of
insight; during that moment the room that I was sitting in turned blue, I
experienced an incredible feeling of excitement and euphoria. It was a
moment of absolute clarity and certainty. I thought for a moment that I was
having a stroke. But after a period of about five seconds I realized that I
had discovered the answer to the problems which had intrigued me for so
long: that answer was that matter, energy and time has multiple dimensions!
I worked on it for a couple of sleepless weeks and developed a complete and
concise theory which I call MEAT, for Matter, Energy And Time; the MEAT of
physics. Simply put the theory is as follows: "Matter, energy and time are
conserved quantities. They exist in multiple dimensions. All matter moves as
matter waves of energy in imaginary dimensions of time. Particles of mass
are stationary and exist in a real dimension of time."
That's it. Of course, between the lines of those few short sentences is a
lot of new physics.
Let's start with the conservation of time: if time were not conserved we
would have run out of it a long time ago. We wouldn't exit and neither would
the cosmos without the conservation of time. Interestingly, it's the first
question that occurs to a young student studying relativity, what's happened
to the rest of time? The answer is that it goes into wave motion, and as
such, it conserves time. An interesting side to this is that for ensemble
averaging to equal time averaging, time must be conserved. The proof of this
relation has not been possible until now. Matter, energy and time are so
tightly bound together that one cannot exist without the other, and if one
is conserved so must the others. Each conserved form of energy exists in its
own orthogonal imaginary dimension of time. And each form of energy (linear
motion, angular motion and random thermal motion, etc.) must be accounted
for in the time dilation of particles in real time. That is why time is
conserved.
The conservation of matter means that the energy required to convert a
stationary particle to a wave of energy must transfer to another particle
within the object when the wave converts back to its particle after
displacement. Particles quit converting only when that energy is removed
from the object.
The conservation laws requires that a fixed (or at least what the matter
sees as being fixed) frame of reference must exist. This obviously spells
doom for inertial frames of reference in relativity.. This refrence frame is
most likely to be composed of strings.
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:gk2Rd.11234$tl3.6890@attbi_s02...
guskz@hotmail.com wrote:
Two planes simultaneously take off at c/3 in opposition directions
(West and East) from a Platform used as the inertial reference plane.
Physics FAQ: How Do You Add Velocities in Special Relativity?
http://hermes.physics.adelaide.edu.au/~dkoks/Faq/Relativity/SR/velocity.html
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Postulate #1: Time Dilation |
17 Feb 2005 12:15:22 PM |
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Ron Poteet wrote:
Dear Sir,
For over thirty years I've been studying the unresolved questions in
physics.
That is an infallible mark of a cad - process not product. Only the
answer matters. Expended effort is meaningless. BTW, idiot, the less
effort the better. UC/Irvine has lovely functional positron emission
brain scans showing that in every case, competent workers use **way**
less brain volume than naive workers.
Uncle Al has traded EEGs for money in several studies. Aside from
being told "GET OUT," Uncle Al dynamically trashing the competition
often looks like Uncle Al textbook sleeping. Psychologists - what do
they know about anything sublime?
Works in the military, too. Never worry about flashy uniforms. Worry
about the sleepy guys in olive drab.
Each time a new question appears it adds a new hint to the
unresolved issues of physics.
Empty words absent citations.
A few months ago while I was reading a book on
the history of the square root of minus one I had an incredible moment of
insight;
You'd do better to learn some math, e.g., operations in the complex
plane. Tell us, git, what kind of numbers are necessary to populate
the third orthogonal coordinate axis?
during that moment the room that I was sitting in turned blue, I
experienced an incredible feeling of excitement and euphoria.
See a psychiatrist - like that's gonna do any good aside from plunging
your brain into a bucket of pharmaceutical ice water so you don't
bother other people.
It was a
moment of absolute clarity and certainty. I thought for a moment that I was
having a stroke. But after a period of about five seconds I realized that I
had discovered the answer to the problems which had intrigued me for so
long: that answer was that matter, energy and time has multiple dimensions!
Grammar aside,
Annalen der Physik 4, XVII, pp. 891-921 (1905)
Annalen der Physik 4, XLIX, pp. 769-822 (1916)
Kaluza-Klein if you like, though it has never been made to work with
metric gravitation. A trial with affine gravitation might be
interesting (wherein gravitation is spacetime torsion looking like a
Lorentz force), but who can do the required math?
<http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/tests.html>
<http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2001-4/index.html>
http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0311039
<http://www.weburbia.demon.co.uk/physics/experiments.html>
<http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper20.pdf>
Nature 425 374 (2003)
http://www.eftaylor.com/pub/projecta.pdf
<http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjjacob/Lecture16.pdf>
<http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/index.html>
Science 303(5661) 1143;1153 (2004)
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0401086
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0312071
<http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-5/index.html>
Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004)
http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml
http://fsweb.berry.edu/academic/mans/clane/
http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/17/3/7
I worked on it for a couple of sleepless weeks and developed a complete and
concise theory which I call MEAT, for Matter, Energy And Time;
[snip crap]
Let's start with the conservation of time: if time were not conserved we
would have run out of it a long time ago.
[snip more crap]
Idiot.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Bjoern Feuerbacher" |
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| Title: Re: Postulate #1: Time Dilation |
18 Feb 2005 03:49:45 AM |
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Ron Poteet wrote:
Dear Sir,
For over thirty years I've been studying the unresolved questions in
physics. Each time a new question appears it adds a new hint to the
unresolved issues of physics. A few months ago while I was reading a book on
the history of the square root of minus one I had an incredible moment of
insight; during that moment the room that I was sitting in turned blue, I
experienced an incredible feeling of excitement and euphoria. It was a
moment of absolute clarity and certainty. I thought for a moment that I was
having a stroke. But after a period of about five seconds I realized that I
had discovered the answer to the problems which had intrigued me for so
long: that answer was that matter, energy and time has multiple dimensions!
I worked on it for a couple of sleepless weeks and developed a complete and
concise theory which I call MEAT, for Matter, Energy And Time; the MEAT of
physics. Simply put the theory is as follows: "Matter, energy and time are
conserved quantities. They exist in multiple dimensions. All matter moves as
matter waves of energy in imaginary dimensions of time. Particles of mass
are stationary and exist in a real dimension of time."
That's it. Of course, between the lines of those few short sentences is a
lot of new physics.
Let's start with the conservation of time: if time were not conserved we
would have run out of it a long time ago. We wouldn't exit and neither would
the cosmos without the conservation of time. Interestingly, it's the first
question that occurs to a young student studying relativity, what's happened
to the rest of time? The answer is that it goes into wave motion, and as
such, it conserves time. An interesting side to this is that for ensemble
averaging to equal time averaging, time must be conserved. The proof of this
relation has not been possible until now. Matter, energy and time are so
tightly bound together that one cannot exist without the other, and if one
is conserved so must the others. Each conserved form of energy exists in its
own orthogonal imaginary dimension of time. And each form of energy (linear
motion, angular motion and random thermal motion, etc.) must be accounted
for in the time dilation of particles in real time. That is why time is
conserved.
The conservation of matter means that the energy required to convert a
stationary particle to a wave of energy must transfer to another particle
within the object when the wave converts back to its particle after
displacement. Particles quit converting only when that energy is removed
from the object.
The conservation laws requires that a fixed (or at least what the matter
sees as being fixed) frame of reference must exist. This obviously spells
doom for inertial frames of reference in relativity.. This refrence frame is
most likely to be composed of strings.
It was a stroke. Definitely.
[snip]
Bye,
Bjoern
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| User: "Morituri-|-Max" |
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17 Feb 2005 11:54:44 AM |
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Ron Poteet wrote:
For over thirty years I've been studying the unresolved questions in
physics. Each time a new question appears it adds a new hint to the
unresolved issues of physics. A few months ago while I was reading a
book on the history of the square root of minus one I had an
incredible moment of insight; during that moment the room that I was
sitting in turned blue, I experienced an incredible feeling of
excitement and euphoria. It was a moment of absolute clarity and
certainty. I thought for a moment that I was having a stroke. But
after a period of about five seconds I realized that I had discovered
the answer to the problems which had intrigued me for so long: that
answer was that matter, energy and time has multiple dimensions!
Gasp!
Yawn....
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