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Power Wiring On Residential Street Poles: Voltages, etc. Questions |
Hello:
Figured that this would be a good site to post my question.
Was looking up at all the poles in my neighborhood that carry power, cable,
etc.,
and was wondering a bit on how the power lines are configured.
From what I see, there are "usually" 3 lines on the upper part of the poles
which I'm reasonably sure are the power lines.
The upper, middle one, I'm guessing is a "high voltage" line.
Correct?
What voltage do they usually carry (residential area, street poles) ?
If so, where is the ground for it ?
What are the other 2 ?
Different phases (115 V each relative to some ground ?) after the high
voltage is reduced via the periodic pole transformers ?
Rather than continue with these questions, might someone please explain how
this is all put together, please ?
Thanks,
Bob
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| User: "Michael Moroney" |
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| Title: Re: Power Wiring On Residential Street Poles: Voltages, etc. Questions |
02 Jun 2004 11:38:28 AM |
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"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> writes:
Figured that this would be a good site to post my question.
You may also want to check out alt.engineering.electrical
From what I see, there are "usually" 3 lines on the upper part of the poles
which I'm reasonably sure are the power lines.
Yes.
The upper, middle one, I'm guessing is a "high voltage" line.
Correct?
This is three phase power. I assume you know how AC is, the voltage
varies as a sine wave going positive to negative and back to positive
60 times a second (in the US). All three lines are at the same voltage
but the 3 sine waves are shifted by 120 degrees relative to each other.
So they are not the same and can't be replaced by a single line.
Three phase power is done for a few reasons: Constant power transmissions
when all 3 lines are used (instead of going from 0 to max 120 times a
second for one individual wire) and larger motors (over 2 HP) need it to
run. You can see where businesses have 3 phase supplied to them when
there are 3 transformer "cans" on the pole servicing them. Look closely
and you'll likely see each "can" fed from the 3 lines, one per can.
What voltage do they usually carry (residential area, street poles) ?
It varies by quite a bit, from 4800 volts to 25,000 volts or so. Usually
about 13,800 volts.
If so, where is the ground for it ?
Usually a neutral wire runs along the middle of the pole, it is grounded
at every transformer.
What are the other 2 ?
The three together are 3 phase.
Different phases (115 V each relative to some ground ?) after the high
voltage is reduced via the periodic pole transformers ?
The 120 volts sometimes runs one or two poles from the transformer,
usually 2 lines wrapped around the neutral, and at the middle of the pole.
The neutral is shared with the high voltage's neutral. The hots have black
insulation and the neutral is bare aluminum.
--
-Mike
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| User: "*" |
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| Title: Re: Power Wiring On Residential Street Poles: Voltages, etc. Questions |
02 Jun 2004 02:08:29 PM |
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There are two types of 3 phase power distribution also
Delta and Y
Delta is 3 lines, all hot, no ground
Y has 4 lines, one is ground.
A house can have three lines to it, one Phase A, another Phase C, and a
ground (bare)
The Phase A to ground is 120 volt, supplies most low loads,
Then Phase A and Phase C applied to the AC for 220 volt
with a safety ground (no designed current through the ground)
Phase C can be used for other 120 volts as well.
Just look in the outside fuse box, its all there. (no touchie, ZAP!sky)
High voltage distribution is very interesting, worth checking out a book on
it.
"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
news:c9kvq4$vst$1@pcls4.std.com...
"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> writes:
Figured that this would be a good site to post my question.
You may also want to check out alt.engineering.electrical
From what I see, there are "usually" 3 lines on the upper part of the
poles
which I'm reasonably sure are the power lines.
Yes.
The upper, middle one, I'm guessing is a "high voltage" line.
Correct?
This is three phase power. I assume you know how AC is, the voltage
varies as a sine wave going positive to negative and back to positive
60 times a second (in the US). All three lines are at the same voltage
but the 3 sine waves are shifted by 120 degrees relative to each other.
So they are not the same and can't be replaced by a single line.
Three phase power is done for a few reasons: Constant power transmissions
when all 3 lines are used (instead of going from 0 to max 120 times a
second for one individual wire) and larger motors (over 2 HP) need it to
run. You can see where businesses have 3 phase supplied to them when
there are 3 transformer "cans" on the pole servicing them. Look closely
and you'll likely see each "can" fed from the 3 lines, one per can.
What voltage do they usually carry (residential area, street poles) ?
It varies by quite a bit, from 4800 volts to 25,000 volts or so. Usually
about 13,800 volts.
If so, where is the ground for it ?
Usually a neutral wire runs along the middle of the pole, it is grounded
at every transformer.
What are the other 2 ?
The three together are 3 phase.
Different phases (115 V each relative to some ground ?) after the high
voltage is reduced via the periodic pole transformers ?
The 120 volts sometimes runs one or two poles from the transformer,
usually 2 lines wrapped around the neutral, and at the middle of the pole.
The neutral is shared with the high voltage's neutral. The hots have black
insulation and the neutral is bare aluminum.
--
-Mike
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| User: "floyd" |
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| Title: Re: Power Wiring On Residential Street Poles: Voltages, etc. Questions |
05 Jun 2004 01:48:14 AM |
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"*" <*@*.com> wrote in message news:<2i6n31Fim7hcU1@uni-berlin.de>...
There are two types of 3 phase power distribution also
Delta and Y
Delta is 3 lines, all hot, no ground
Y has 4 lines, one is ground.
A house can have three lines to it, one Phase A, another Phase C, and a
ground (bare)
The Phase A to ground is 120 volt, supplies most low loads,
Then Phase A and Phase C applied to the AC for 220 volt
with a safety ground (no designed current through the ground)
Phase C can be used for other 120 volts as well.
Residential service rarely has a 3 phase service, the 220V/120V is
single phase and comes from a center tap transformer.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Power Wiring On Residential Street Poles: Voltages, etc. Questions |
02 Jun 2004 09:26:00 AM |
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Robert11 wrote:
Was looking up at all the poles in my neighborhood that carry power, cable,
etc., and was wondering a bit on how the power lines are configured.
See: http://www.google.com/search?q=power+distribution+residential
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