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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Jack Martinelli"
Date: 05 Dec 2004 02:31:13 PM
Object: Probably just ignorant but... Where are the trial universes?
I have to admit, I didn't do very well in my two probability classes. I
took the classes before I had any real interest in the subject and,
regrettably, didn't invest much effort. And I am probably somewhat bigoted
anyway about probability being fundamental to physical theory. I have no
arguments about its usefulness, but as fundamental?! ... and I don't want
to start ranting about scientific IQ (yeah, I kinda get F**King pissed when
I hear this BS), and so I'll just state my question.
Physics is an EMPIRICAL science does any physicist really understand this?
Are there any real physicists?
Anyway, if I remember my 2nd grade probability course correctly, when you
talk about the probability, p, of an event isn't p a function of two
numbers. Say i is the number of OBSERVED trials and of those i trials, j is
the number representing the number of OBSERVED events. Then p = j/i. I
think I'm right about this, or not?
When I read this BS in respectable scientific publications, I don't know
why, but it makes my blood boil, when I read about the probability of other
universes -- alternate universes -- should I just laugh? Maybe I just
shouldn't care? Or should I just tell myself, "Sometimes metaphysics is ok"
over and over...
It kind of has the same kind of feel as the state law against teaching
evolution in the high schools in (I forget what state...). God, if you can
hear me, Please help us! (And I'm an atheist!).
Regards
Jack Martinelli
http://www.martinelli.org
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User: "Benny Laden"

Title: Re: Probably just ignorant but... Where are the trial universes? 05 Dec 2004 03:03:59 PM
"Jack Martinelli" <jack@martinelli.org> wrote in message
news:leKsd.2175$yr1.2104@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...

I have to admit, I didn't do very well in my two probability classes.

You are a failure in your eyes.

I
took the classes before I had any real interest in the subject and,
regrettably, didn't invest much effort.

Poor desision on your part.

And I am probably somewhat bigoted
anyway about probability being fundamental to physical theory.

You didn't do good in the prob course, so you can't understand it?

I have no
arguments about its usefulness, but as fundamental?! ... and I don't want
to start ranting about scientific IQ (yeah, I kinda get F**King pissed

when

I hear this BS), and so I'll just state my question.

Physics is an EMPIRICAL science does any physicist really understand this?
Are there any real physicists?

Yes, and Yes.


Anyway, if I remember my 2nd grade probability course correctly, when you
talk about the probability, p, of an event isn't p a function of two
numbers. Say i is the number of OBSERVED trials and of those i trials, j

is

the number representing the number of OBSERVED events. Then p = j/i. I
think I'm right about this, or not?

15 sucesses out of 20 trials is 15/20%, however there is more.


When I read this BS in respectable scientific publications, I don't know
why, but it makes my blood boil, when I read about the probability of

other

universes -- alternate universes -- should I just laugh? Maybe I just
shouldn't care? Or should I just tell myself, "Sometimes metaphysics is

ok"

over and over...

Perhaps probability dosen't work in these other universes. It is really
advanced guessing. Can't prove it, but one can say that it has a
probability of 1E-23 of existing.
You can calculate the probability that all the air in your room will go into
the corner and sufficate you, it exists, but is very small, such that you
can discount it from reality.


It kind of has the same kind of feel as the state law against teaching
evolution in the high schools in (I forget what state...).

Mass. (No monkeys there, except John Kerry. yea, OT)

God, if you can
hear me, Please help us! (And I'm an atheist!).

Don't worry atheism can be cured, as Madeline O'Hara found out


Regards

Jack Martinelli

http://www.martinelli.org





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User: "Morituri-|-Max"

Title: Re: Probably just ignorant but... Where are the trial universes? 05 Dec 2004 04:08:07 PM
Jack Martinelli wrote:

I have to admit, I didn't do very well in my two probability classes. I
took the classes before I had any real interest in the subject and,
regrettably, didn't invest much effort. And I am probably somewhat bigoted
anyway about probability being fundamental to physical theory. I have no
arguments about its usefulness, but as fundamental?! ... and I don't want
to start ranting about scientific IQ (yeah, I kinda get F**King pissed when
I hear this BS), and so I'll just state my question.

I would have read the rest of it, but didn't want to invest the effort.
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