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Science > Physics |
| User: |
"Jack Sarfatti" |
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06 May 2004 02:40:19 PM |
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Progress in Metric Engineering in Super Cosmos |
Memorandum for the Record
Subject: Relation of Podkletnov & Ning Li experiments on alleged
anti-gravity of rotating superconductors to recent CDMII null dark
matter measurements and to my vacuum coherence theory.
Grant - please forward to Podkletnov
On May 6, 2004, at 8:58 AM, Tim Ventura wrote:
Hi Jack --
You wrote:
"the Bohm-Aharonov-Josephson effect with rotating superconductors (E.
Podkletnov & Ning Li)"
On that reference note for the record:
On May 6, 2004, at 7:42 AM, wrote:
Jack,
Before you get too fired up about the rotating superconductor business,
you might want to take a look at a little paper by Ed Harris in the 1999
volume of Found. Phys. Lett. He identifies a 20 order of magnitude
error in the calculation of the effects claimed.
Best,
Jim Woodward
URL for that?
Those calculations I bet assume Newton's G at small scale when in fact G
may be G* ~ 10^40 times larger than Newton's G on the relevant
micro-scale! Note that 10^20 is square root of 10^40 so that a quantum
gravity effect of order (Lp*/L) scales as (G*/G)^1/2
On May 6, 2004, at 9:05 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
Thanks
But my calculations have nothing at all to do with their theory. They
have no concept of the /\zpf field. The recent CDMII data is good for my
theory.
Indeed, I have been explicit that my idea is even independent of their
experiments. I do not know if their experiments are correct or not and
have said so and will make that clear in the paper. I am talking about
what may be done in the future with the /\zpf field.
Grant please forward to Podkletnov.
Tim Ventura wrote:
Firstly, from what I can gather its been difficult to replicate the
gravity-shielding effect that Podkletnov has talked about (and Ning Li
isn't talking about her modifications). Any thoughts on what the unknown
variable is that makes it work sometimes but not others?
JS: Yes! I showed the formula for it in my paper!
http://qedcorp.com/APS/NEWPodkletnov.pdf
It's relative phase instability between the vacuum coherence and the
control superconductor coherence. They do not have vacuum coherence in
their theories! That's what is missing from them, from Puthoff's and
from every competing theory in the field of metric engineering the
fabric of space-time for NASA BPP Mission Objectives. Capische?
My theory has nothing to do with the Modanese-Podkletnov or Ning Li's
theory. It is a completely different deeper approach - much deeper. I
show how both gravity and dark energy/matter emerge from the inflation
field and how that inflation field comes into being to begin with! None
of them have that. They start with Einstein's gravity to begin with (or
Hal's wrong PV alternative) and therefore throw the baby out with the
bath water. They can never get to the key idea although Modanese got the
closest to it.
TV:
Secondly, there have been rumors about a UFO using a mercury-plasma
toroid that also utilizes a gravity-shielding effect (the TR3-B). Do you
think that the Podkletnov Effect could be replicated on a larger-scale
using a toroidally-shaped chamber filled with mercury plasma?
That sounds to me like the Victor Schauberger Nazi "Bell Experiment" in
Nick Cook's book. Only if that plasma could sustain a stable atomic
Bose-Einstein condensate being, in effect, a high Tc superconductor
whose macro-quantum coherent phase can lock with the deep substratum
vacuum coherence phase in the Bohm-Aharonov-Josephson effect! You never
see Puthoff & Co use these deep ideas in the context of metric
engineering of stargates and warp drives. All they have is random
semi-classical SED, from random comes random. From nothing comes nothing.
TV: Third, from what I've read the general understanding is that
Cooper-Pairs are what makes the device function -- does your analysis
support gravitomagnetic coupling in Cooper-paired electrons, or do you
have an alternative explanation?
You clearly do not know much physics if you cannot answer that question
for yourself. The answer is roughly YES! But depends what you mean by
"gravimagnetic". I have the precise equation for all this in my paper.
The picture is VERY SIMPLE independent of what everyone else has written
on the subject.
The rotating control superconducting disk or plasma ring with a stable
atomic or ionized plasma condensate as the case may be has a huge number
of "effective bosons" (their precise nature does not matter as shown in
PW Anderson's "More is different" - another term not in the Puthoff & Co
lexicon BTW) are circulating in a loop so that they have a hydrodynamic
vorticity flux field. This is where the connection to Victor
Schauberger's primitive explanation comes in. In addition these
circulating bosons must carry a charge so that they feel the nonlocal
Bohm-Aharonov-Josephson magnetic flux field.
The vorticity and magnetic pseudo-vectors are oriented anti-parallel in
space to get the vacuum coherence/control superconductor coherence
phase-match resonances to work. If there is too much phase noise the
effect washes out, which is why it is so difficult to reproduce.
So, in summary, we have the virtual electron-positron pair macro-quantum
condensate as the "background reference beam". You can think of the
Bohm-Aharonov-Josephson effect as the reconstruction of a hologram image
- the basic formal equations are very similar to the archetypal "2 slit
experiment" of quantum theory!
The magneto-hydrodynamic flow (not gravi-magnetic) of the control
charged boson condensate (on mass shell real electron-pairs will do, but
you can use other real on mass shell charged bosons as well) beats
against the substratum vacuum coherence of the off-mass-shell virtual
electron positron pairs, to induce the anti-gravity zero point dark
energy field /\zpf > 0 that provides the zero g force warp drive lift in
the sense of the "acceleration field G-Engine" of the
Bondi-Hill-Trimble-Alcubierre class. That in a nutshell is how it all
works. That's how the saucers fly. That's the next step in the evolution
of man. That's what metric engineering in Super Cosmos is really all about.
Thanks & best wishes!
Tim Ventura
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| User: "John Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Progress in Metric Engineering in Super Cosmos |
07 May 2004 11:47:46 PM |
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here. I have tranlated Johns paper to remove the
technical confusion, but it is stragitforward, well now backwards with caps
inverted. Kinda looks like Romulon!
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"Jack Sarfatti" <sarfatti@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:Dwwmc.61125$ik2.17502@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
Memorandum for the Record
Subject: Relation of Podkletnov & Ning Li experiments on alleged
anti-gravity of rotating superconductors to recent CDMII null dark
matter measurements and to my vacuum coherence theory.
Grant - please forward to Podkletnov
On May 6, 2004, at 8:58 AM, Tim Ventura wrote:
Hi Jack --
You wrote:
"the Bohm-Aharonov-Josephson effect with rotating superconductors (E.
Podkletnov & Ning Li)"
On that reference note for the record:
On May 6, 2004, at 7:42 AM, wrote:
Jack,
Before you get too fired up about the rotating superconductor business,
you might want to take a look at a little paper by Ed Harris in the 1999
volume of Found. Phys. Lett. He identifies a 20 order of magnitude
error in the calculation of the effects claimed.
Best,
Jim Woodward
URL for that?
Those calculations I bet assume Newton's G at small scale when in fact G
may be G* ~ 10^40 times larger than Newton's G on the relevant
micro-scale! Note that 10^20 is square root of 10^40 so that a quantum
gravity effect of order (Lp*/L) scales as (G*/G)^1/2
On May 6, 2004, at 9:05 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
Thanks
But my calculations have nothing at all to do with their theory. They
have no concept of the /\zpf field. The recent CDMII data is good for my
theory.
Indeed, I have been explicit that my idea is even independent of their
experiments. I do not know if their experiments are correct or not and
have said so and will make that clear in the paper. I am talking about
what may be done in the future with the /\zpf field.
Grant please forward to Podkletnov.
Tim Ventura wrote:
Firstly, from what I can gather its been difficult to replicate the
gravity-shielding effect that Podkletnov has talked about (and Ning Li
isn't talking about her modifications). Any thoughts on what the unknown
variable is that makes it work sometimes but not others?
JS: Yes! I showed the formula for it in my paper!
http://qedcorp.com/APS/NEWPodkletnov.pdf
It's relative phase instability between the vacuum coherence and the
control superconductor coherence. They do not have vacuum coherence in
their theories! That's what is missing from them, from Puthoff's and
from every competing theory in the field of metric engineering the
fabric of space-time for NASA BPP Mission Objectives. Capische?
My theory has nothing to do with the Modanese-Podkletnov or Ning Li's
theory. It is a completely different deeper approach - much deeper. I
show how both gravity and dark energy/matter emerge from the inflation
field and how that inflation field comes into being to begin with! None
of them have that. They start with Einstein's gravity to begin with (or
Hal's wrong PV alternative) and therefore throw the baby out with the
bath water. They can never get to the key idea although Modanese got the
closest to it.
TV:
Secondly, there have been rumors about a UFO using a mercury-plasma
toroid that also utilizes a gravity-shielding effect (the TR3-B). Do you
think that the Podkletnov Effect could be replicated on a larger-scale
using a toroidally-shaped chamber filled with mercury plasma?
That sounds to me like the Victor Schauberger Nazi "Bell Experiment" in
Nick Cook's book. Only if that plasma could sustain a stable atomic
Bose-Einstein condensate being, in effect, a high Tc superconductor
whose macro-quantum coherent phase can lock with the deep substratum
vacuum coherence phase in the Bohm-Aharonov-Josephson effect! You never
see Puthoff & Co use these deep ideas in the context of metric
engineering of stargates and warp drives. All they have is random
semi-classical SED, from random comes random. From nothing comes nothing.
TV: Third, from what I've read the general understanding is that
Cooper-Pairs are what makes the device function -- does your analysis
support gravitomagnetic coupling in Cooper-paired electrons, or do you
have an alternative explanation?
You clearly do not know much physics if you cannot answer that question
for yourself. The answer is roughly YES! But depends what you mean by
"gravimagnetic". I have the precise equation for all this in my paper.
The picture is VERY SIMPLE independent of what everyone else has written
on the subject.
The rotating control superconducting disk or plasma ring with a stable
atomic or ionized plasma condensate as the case may be has a huge number
of "effective bosons" (their precise nature does not matter as shown in
PW Anderson's "More is different" - another term not in the Puthoff & Co
lexicon BTW) are circulating in a loop so that they have a hydrodynamic
vorticity flux field. This is where the connection to Victor
Schauberger's primitive explanation comes in. In addition these
circulating bosons must carry a charge so that they feel the nonlocal
Bohm-Aharonov-Josephson magnetic flux field.
The vorticity and magnetic pseudo-vectors are oriented anti-parallel in
space to get the vacuum coherence/control superconductor coherence
phase-match resonances to work. If there is too much phase noise the
effect washes out, which is why it is so difficult to reproduce.
So, in summary, we have the virtual electron-positron pair macro-quantum
condensate as the "background reference beam". You can think of the
Bohm-Aharonov-Josephson effect as the reconstruction of a hologram image
- the basic formal equations are very similar to the archetypal "2 slit
experiment" of quantum theory!
The magneto-hydrodynamic flow (not gravi-magnetic) of the control
charged boson condensate (on mass shell real electron-pairs will do, but
you can use other real on mass shell charged bosons as well) beats
against the substratum vacuum coherence of the off-mass-shell virtual
electron positron pairs, to induce the anti-gravity zero point dark
energy field /\zpf > 0 that provides the zero g force warp drive lift in
the sense of the "acceleration field G-Engine" of the
Bondi-Hill-Trimble-Alcubierre class. That in a nutshell is how it all
works. That's how the saucers fly. That's the next step in the evolution
of man. That's what metric engineering in Super Cosmos is really all
about.
Thanks & best wishes!
Tim Ventura
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