Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
On May 26, 4:06 pm, Henry <b...@treason.gov> wrote:
From:http://stopthelie.com/freeway_collapse.html
I can already hear defenders of the official account screaming "See,
fire can cause a steel structure to collapse-the bridge collapsed!"
Comparing the circumstances surrounding the fire and subsequent partial
collapse of this bridge to the circumstances surrounding the fires and
subsequent complete collapse of the towers and WTC 7 is flawed from end
to end. This fact should be obvious to most people; but let's point out
a few things just in case they weren't already noticed.
* 1. This was an open air environment where flames were able to reach
their absolute maximum temperature; white-hot and shooting upwards of
200 feet in the air.
No indication of oxygen starvation in the WTC.
Only true if you ignore and deny reality. Here in the real world,
thick black smoke with few flames indicates an oxygen staved
fire.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtcfires2.html
The more you try to defend the Bush regime's cartoon conspiracy
theory, the sillier you look.
2. Those 200 foot flames were acting on a single support truss
that was fastened to the two columns pictured here. That truss (and the
connectors that fastened it to the columns) represents a small fraction
of the steel that would have been found on a single floor of the towers
or WTC 7. So again, far more heat focused on a single truss and no way
to redistribute the load once that truss was weakened.
* 3. You'll notice that despite the intense fires ability to weaken
the truss and connectors that there is NO mention of molten metal in the
debris. Also, unlike the debris of the towers and WTC 7, it's not likely
we're going to hear anything about thermate (specifically used to
destroy steel columns) in the bridge debris.
No reliable evidence of molten **steel**.
None in the freeway collapse, right.
One eyewitness who believes he saw molten steel at a time significantly
after the collapse, when your imaginary "nano-thermite" would have long
since burned itself out.
What are you ranting about now? The very hot fires in the
freeway collapse produced no molten metal. The towers and
WTC7 had lots of it, many weeks after the demolitions. That's
still more evidence of thermite or thermate.
* 4. You'll notice that the concrete roadway that "pancaked down"
on the roadway below did not cause the lower freeway to collapse. Nor
has the concrete disintegrated into a fine powder.
You'll notice that no competent demolition engineer would waste
esplosive pulverizing non-supporting elements of a structure.
You'll notice that the freeway collapse stopped when it impacted
the structure below. Your magic fires in the towers violated the
laws of physics. Each impact with the solid structures below caused
an =increase= in the collapse speed. To anyone but clueless Bush
parroting conspiracy kook, that's a significant problem. Here in
the real world, science and physics are important.
* 5. You'll notice the columns were not torn down by the collapse,
nor did they evaporate into thin air, rather they are still standing
(having only lost the the truss and connectors that held the roadway to
them.)
And this indicates that fire couldn't weaken a steel structure ?
There were no fires below the impact zone in the towers to weaken
the massive steel frame.
So to quickly recap:
* White-hot 200 foot flames acting on a single truss (and no
ability to redistribute the load once weakened.)
* No molten metal and certainly no thermate found
In either case. Thermite is a figment of your demented
imagination.
Perhaps in Robworld, there is no such thing as thermite, and it
can't be used to cut steel. But here in reality, thermite is very
real, and it does in fact liquefy and cut steel quite effectively.
* No column failure
* No evaporation / pulverization of concrete
* No "pancake collapse"
-Ending with a paragraph from The 1-hour Guide to 9/11.
For the record, few in the scientific community doubt that it's
theoretically possible for a building to experience failure if it is
subjected to devastating heat for a sufficient period of time. And
additional factors like no fire-proofing, no sprinkler systems,
insufficient steel to "bleed off" heat or inferior construction greatly
increase the possibility. However, what is "doubted" (or more
accurately; considered downright impossible) is that such a failure
would resemble anything like what was witnessed on 9/11. -Gradual,
isolated, asymmetrical failures spread out over time; perhaps
-simultaneous disintegration of all load bearing columns (leaving a pile
of neatly folded rubble a few stories high) -no way.
And the problem with all of the above is that neither thrmite,
disintegration rays or nukes provide a plausible alternative.
Of course, only Osama's magic fires could have caused the massive
unheated, undamaged steel frames of the towers to suddenly
explode and disintegrate at virtual free fall speed and perfect
symmetry. Rob, you're comical displays of blind faith and ignorance
as well as your denial of reality are getting more "impressive"
with each desperate attempt to defend the Bush regime's cartoon
kook theory. You need to do some research, or give it up.
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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