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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Double-A"
Date: 22 Jul 2003 03:53:24 PM
Object: Re: Article] Stars with metal harbour planets
"Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:<fi_Sa.7599$OM3.1554@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...

Stars with metal harbour planets
Planet-hunters know where to look for distant solar systems.
21 July 2003
TOM CLARKE

Stars containing metals are the ones most likely to have planets
orbiting them, researchers have confirmed. Scanning the skies for
inhabited planets like our own could be easier than astronomers had
thought.

"If you look at metal-rich stars, 20% have planets - that's stunning,"
says astronomer Debra Fischer at the University of California, Berkeley.
She presented her team's study of more than 750 stars at this week's
International Astronomical Union meeting in Sydney, Australia.

Astronomers refer to every element other than hydrogen and helium as a
metal. Many stars are just giant balls of blazing hydrogen - others,
such as our Sun, are metal-rich, often containing an iron core.

Read the rest at Nature
http://www.nature.com/nsu/030721/030721-1.html

Since planets are generally believed to have formed out of the same
swirling clouds of gas and dust as did stars, it is no surprise that
stars with high contents of heavy elements would have formed out of
clouds of gas and dust with high contents of heavy elements, which in
turn would have been more likely to produce solid planets.
Double-A
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User: "nightbat"

Title: Re: Article] Stars with metal harbour planets 23 Jul 2003 08:57:17 AM
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:


"Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:<fi_Sa.7599$OM3.1554@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...

Stars with metal harbour planets
Planet-hunters know where to look for distant solar systems.
21 July 2003
TOM CLARKE

Stars containing metals are the ones most likely to have planets
orbiting them, researchers have confirmed. Scanning the skies for
inhabited planets like our own could be easier than astronomers had
thought.

"If you look at metal-rich stars, 20% have planets - that's stunning,"
says astronomer Debra Fischer at the University of California, Berkeley.
She presented her team's study of more than 750 stars at this week's
International Astronomical Union meeting in Sydney, Australia.

Astronomers refer to every element other than hydrogen and helium as a
metal. Many stars are just giant balls of blazing hydrogen - others,
such as our Sun, are metal-rich, often containing an iron core.

Read the rest at Nature
http://www.nature.com/nsu/030721/030721-1.html


Since planets are generally believed to have formed out of the same
swirling clouds of gas and dust as did stars, it is no surprise that
stars with high contents of heavy elements would have formed out of
clouds of gas and dust with high contents of heavy elements, which in
turn would have been more likely to produce solid planets.

Double-A

nightbat
Double-A, don't let Tom Clark's reference postings mislead you,
remember, they are still searching the bushes for clues. Many years ago
certain researchers took heated issue and would not acknowledge
nightbat's model indications that our sun could produce its own oxygen
let alone heavy elemental metals. The basic makeup of energy is metallic
in nature and is what helps bind the universe together. This includes
metallic hydrogen and helium though contradicted or yet not admitted by
your referenced Clark's post.
I had advised that Einstein and Tesla together had lifetime tried
understanding the possible origination of the large concentration of
iron contained by Earth with no resolution. Chandra's Nobel Award
winning mathematical proofs for upper stellar mass limits was also
counter indicative for large mass concentration ability of iron as
paradoxly presented by Earth's very large metallic mass core evidence.
The requirement for huge end sequence iron mass concentration ability by
normal gravity stellar dynamics far exceeds total energy output of even
Super Nova maximum energy output indications. Many of the most astute
scientific minds were therefore stumped to explanation of physics
dynamics for base Earth's massive iron content.
Clue: The basic metallic nature of energy permits certain elemental
shells and particular atomic formation to permit high concentrations of
nucleus makeup while further permitting its natural metallic and EM
attraction, repelling, neutral, overlapping, and dispersed reality, as
well as gravity curl to form under mass strain. Therefore, in a
distressed system of non uniform motion, natural galactic and electron
built-up of missing complete shell wells are permitted to form as
gravity effect which act as a space time continuum conservation of
energy while permitting expansion of the elastic property of universal
volume under multiple different frames per the nightbat " Continuos
Universe Rule ".
Stars and planetary bodies that form under normal gravity fields will
never have the metallic concentration as those formed under strong
internal galactic gravity fields. But all stars and planets are
basically metallic because of the sub micro charge nature of energy. The
basic inclination of a chaotic distressed universal system is to seek
base uniform neutrality.
A universal system in motion will always remain in motion. A universal
system in uniform motion will remain uniform until a force acts upon it.
A present known universal system in non uniform motion therefore had no
beginning or has no end in the absence of outside force.

the nightbat
.
User: "Double-A"

Title: Re: Article] Stars with metal harbour planets 23 Jul 2003 02:51:18 PM
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message news:<3F1E943D.93B0C113@home.ffni.com>...
[snip]

Stars and planetary bodies that form under normal gravity fields will
never have the metallic concentration as those formed under strong
internal galactic gravity fields.

[snip]

the nightbat

Are you suggesting that iron is predominantly formed in the galactic
center, a la the Dog ***** Theory???
Double-A
.
User: "Double-A"

Title: Re: Article] Stars with metal harbour planets 24 Jul 2003 07:13:57 PM
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message news:<3F200851.F21A68A@home.ffni.com>...

nightbat wrote

Double-A wrote:


nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message news:<3F1E943D.93B0C113@home.ffni.com>...

[snip]

Stars and planetary bodies that form under normal gravity fields will
never have the metallic concentration as those formed under strong
internal galactic gravity fields.


[snip]

the nightbat


Are you suggesting that iron is predominantly formed in the galactic
center, a la the Dog ***** Theory???

Double-A


nightbat

Ha, ha, no Double-A , it requires a physics particular set of
cosmic circumstances to produce iron in the amount of concentrated
quantity as resultantly found on Earth. As opposed to dog ***** which can
be found coming out the rear and sometimes mouth of any clueless mutt.
In New York City there is a law that if you take a dog for a walk on the
sidewalks or streets, you must pick up what comes out of the dog and
dispose of it properly. Millions of NYC pet owners have to do it
everyday, it's a city habit they get used to doing out of love for their
pets. If dog ***** is on your mind have none or raise your dog pet in the
outer Boroughs with big back yards or in the country where they can
still have plenty of room to run around and ***** where there is plenty
of grass or, if you're rich and temperamental, you can always get the
city personal hired help to clean it up for you.

Question: Which do you use to wipe, right or left hand?

Answer: Neither, if you're civilized you hopefully use tissues.
And please Double-A make sure you have washed those hands before typing
anything else to me.


the nightbat

Only in Arabic countries, I understand, do they use the left hand to
wipe, and not tissues! But there is a bucket of water handy for a
quick rinse.
That is why they always eat using only their right hand. And if an
Arab ever extends his left hand to shake yours, it should be taken as
an insult!
Double-A
.
User: "nightbat"

Title: Re: Article] Stars with metal harbour planets 25 Jul 2003 01:16:11 AM
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:


nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message news:<3F200851.F21A68A@home.ffni.com>...

nightbat wrote

Double-A wrote:


nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message news:<3F1E943D.93B0C113@home.ffni.com>...

[snip]

Stars and planetary bodies that form under normal gravity fields will
never have the metallic concentration as those formed under strong
internal galactic gravity fields.


[snip]

the nightbat


Are you suggesting that iron is predominantly formed in the galactic
center, a la the Dog ***** Theory???

Double-A


nightbat

Ha, ha, no Double-A , it requires a physics particular set of
cosmic circumstances to produce iron in the amount of concentrated
quantity as resultantly found on Earth. As opposed to dog ***** which can
be found coming out the rear and sometimes mouth of any clueless mutt.
In New York City there is a law that if you take a dog for a walk on the
sidewalks or streets, you must pick up what comes out of the dog and
dispose of it properly. Millions of NYC pet owners have to do it
everyday, it's a city habit they get used to doing out of love for their
pets. If dog ***** is on your mind have none or raise your dog pet in the
outer Boroughs with big back yards or in the country where they can
still have plenty of room to run around and ***** where there is plenty
of grass or, if you're rich and temperamental, you can always get the
city personal hired help to clean it up for you.

Question: Which do you use to wipe, right or left hand?

Answer: Neither, if you're civilized you hopefully use tissues.
And please Double-A make sure you have washed those hands before typing
anything else to me.


the nightbat


Only in Arabic countries, I understand, do they use the left hand to
wipe, and not tissues! But there is a bucket of water handy for a
quick rinse.

That is why they always eat using only their right hand. And if an
Arab ever extends his left hand to shake yours, it should be taken as
an insult!

Double-A

nightbat
Then wait till you go visit the deep inner jungles of Central or
South America, like nightbat has done, as a young researcher at 15,
where the natives don't have Charmin' or Scott's big paper role to play
with. They mostly use leaves and boy you bet they know the poison ones
from the mild ones. When visiting back country Russia, India, South East
Asia, Africa, and other places, are you in for a thrill too, because
tissue is a luxury.
You think TJ Frazir is pulling your leg? There are no cut trees to speak
of that don't bring a premium in domestic and foreign ports. Why?
Because of the world wide constant demand for wood products and call of
Mother Nature.
But to get back on topic, the greater plasmatic metallic core content of
a star body the better are your chances of finding a revolving planet
such as ours in a distant galaxy.
the nightbat
.
User: "nightbat"

Title: Re: Article] Stars with metal harbour planets 25 Jul 2003 04:31:35 PM
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:


nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message news:<3F20CB2B.D98FFA33@home.ffni.com>...
[snip]
And I bet they also know to shake those fiery stinging jungle ants off
the leaves before using them!

Double-A

nightbat
You got it Double-A and heaven help you if you have to take a
number two in the bush after sunset. There are a gazillion of ants down
there that sting and some can cut twigs and the flesh off of any living
or dead thing. They march in armies in Brazil every so many years and
are worse then grasshopper locusts. Fire ants that are so smart they
ride leaves on water ways to get around humans trying to burn them out.
If you don't get out of their way when they are on the march they can
strip you to the bone in a matter of hours. That's nothing compared to
the other hazards of jungle research.
But to be getting back to Stars with metal harbor planets is quite true.
The tendency for strong gravity stellar formations to be likely
candidates for biological life forms is because of the heavier elements
they and some other particular solar system revolving planets may
contain. A normal gravity formed sun would not contain as much heavy
metal elements necessary for possibility of other biological life. Per
nightbat model, since galactic presentations may form just one strong
gravity " Black Comet " at there centers, the possibility of other
normal gravity galactic sun systems with the proper amount of heavy
element makeup would be limited.
the nightbat
.




User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: Article] Stars with metal harbour planets 23 Jul 2003 03:28:29 PM
nightbat wrote:



Stars and planetary bodies that form under normal gravity fields will
never have the metallic concentration as those formed under strong
internal galactic gravity fields. But all stars and planets are
basically metallic because of the sub micro charge nature of energy. The
basic inclination of a chaotic distressed universal system is to seek
base uniform neutrality.

That's ***** nightbat--Sources of Iron
o Type Ia Supernovae
o Type II Supernovae
o Cores of massive (greater than 10 solar masses) stars
.



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