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Science -- we Hindus did it first.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
In article <3f12571b-5300-41f8-b633-e5aae2c0fa4b@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
CYBERHINWA <cyberhinwa@gmail.com> posted:
THE CHRISTIANS THINK THAT THE DISCOVERY OF ATOMIC POWER WAS ONE OF THE
MOST IMPORTANT ONE ...... BUT REMEMBER ANCIENT HINDUS DISCOVERED IT
FIRST .
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Atomic War in Ancient India
These verses are from the Mahabharata (written in ancient Dravidian,
then later in Sanskrit) and describe horrific wars fought long before
the recorder's lifetime.
* Various omens appeared among the gods: winds blew, meteors fell in
thousands, thunder rolled through a cloudless sky.
* There he saw a wheel with a rim as sharp as a razor whirling around
the soma... Then taking the soma, he broke the whirling machine...
* Drona called Arjuna and said: "Accept from me this irresistible
weapon called Brahmasira. But you must promise never to use it against
a human foe, for if you did it might destroy the world. If any foe who
is not a human attacks you, you may use it against him in battle. None
but you deserves the celestial weapon that I gave you."
This is a curious statement, as what other kind of foe different from
a human might there have been? Are we talking about an interplanetary
war?
* I shall fight you with a celestial weapon given to me by Drona. He
then hurled the blazing weapon...
* At last they came to blows, and seizing their maces struck each
other; they fell like falling suns.
* These huge animals, like mountains struck by Bhima's mace, fell with
their heads broken, fell upon the ground like cliffs loosened by
thunder.
* Bhima took him by the arm and dragged him away to an open place
where they began to fight like two elephants mad with rage. The dust
they raised resembled the smoke of a forest fire; it covered their
bodies so that they looked like swaying cliffs wreathed in mist.
* Arjuna and Krishna rode to and fro in their chariots on either side
of the forest and drove back the creatures which tried to escape.
Thousands of animals were burnt, pools and lakes began to boil... The
flames even reached Heaven... Indra without loss of time set out for
Khandava and covered the sky with masses of clouds; the rain poured
down but it was dried in mid-air by the heat.
Several historical records claim that Indian culture has been around
for literally tens of thousands of years. Yet, until 1920, all the
"experts" agreed that the origins of the Indian civilization should be
placed within a few hundred years of Alexander the Great's expedition
to the subcontinent in 327 BC. However, that was before several great
cities like Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro (Mound of the Dead), Kot Diji,
Kalibanga and Lothal were discovered and excavated. Lothal, a former
port city now miles from the ocean, was discovered in Gujarat, western
India, just in the late 20th century.20 These discoveries have forced
archaeologists to push back the dates for the origin of Indian
civilization by thousands of years--in line with what the Indians
themselves have insisted all along.
A wonder to modern-day researchers, the cities were highly developed
and advanced. The way that each city was laid out in regular blocks,
with streets crossing each other at right angles and the entire city
laid out in sections, gives archaeologists cause to believe that the
cities were conceived as a whole before they were built--a remarkable
early example of city planning. Even more remarkable is that the
plumbing/sewage systems throughout the large cities were so
sophisticated--superior to those found in Pakistan, India and many
Asian countries today. Sewers were covered, and most homes had private
toilets and running water. Furthermore, the water and sewage systems
were kept well separated.21, 22, 23
This advanced culture had its own writing, which has never been
deciphered. The people used personalized clay seals, much as the
Chinese still do today, to officialize documents and letters. Some of
the seals found contain figures of animals that are unknown to us
today, including an extinct form of the Brahman bull.
Archaeologists really have no idea who the builders were, but their
attempts to date the ruins (which they ascribe to the "Indus Valley
civilization", also called "Harappan") have come up with something
like 2500 BC and older, but radiation from the wars apparently fought
in the area may have thrown off the date.
The Rama Empire, described in the Mahabharata and Ramayana, was
supposedly contemporaneous with the great cultures of Atlantis and
Osiris in the West.
Atlantis, well known from Plato's writings and ancient Egyptian
records, apparently existed in the mid-Atlantic and was a highly
technological and patriarchal civilization.
The Osirian civilization existed in the Mediterranean basin and
northern Africa, according to esoteric doctrine and archaeological
evidence, and is generally known as pre-dynastic Egypt. It was flooded
when Atlantis sank and the Mediterranean began to fill up with water.
The Rama Empire flourished during the same period, according to
esoteric tradition, fading out in the millennium after the destruction
of the Atlantean continent.
As noted above, the ancient Indian epics describe a series of horrific
wars--wars which could have been fought between ancient India and
Atlantis, or perhaps a third party in the Gobi region of western
China. The Mahabharata and the Drona Parva speak of the war and of the
weapons used: great fireballs that could destroy a whole city;
"Kapila's Glance", which could burn 50,000 men to ashes in seconds;
and flying spears that could ruin whole "cities full of forts".
The Rama Empire was started by the Nagas (Naacals) who had come into
India from Burma and ultimately from "the Motherland to the east"--or
so Colonel James Churchward was told. After settling in the Deccan
Plateau in northern India, they made their capital in the ancient city
of Deccan, where the modern city of Nagpur stands today.
The empire of the Nagas apparently began to extend all over northern
India to include the cities of Harappa, Mohenjo-Daro and Kot Diji (now
in Pakistan), as well as Lothal, Kalibanga, Mathura and possibly other
cities such as Benares, Ayodha and Pataliputra.
These cities were led by "Great Teachers" or "Masters" who were the
benevolent aristocracy of the Rama civilization. Today they are
generally called "Priest-Kings" of the Indus Valley civilization, and
a number of statues of these so-called gods have been discovered. In
reality, these were apparently men whose mental and psychic powers
were of a degree that seems incredible to most people of today. It was
at the height of power for both the Rama Empire and Atlantis that the
war allegedly broke out, seemingly because of Atlantis's attempt to
subjugate Rama.
According to the Lemurian Fellowship lesson materials, the populace
surrounding Mu (Lemuria, which predated the other civilizations)
eventually split into two opposing factions: those who prized
practicality and those who prized spirituality. The citizenry, or
educated elite, of Mu itself was balanced equally in these two
qualities. The citizenry encouraged the other groups to emigrate to
uninhabited lands. Those who prized practicality emigrated to the
Poseid Island group (Atlantis), and those who prized spirituality
eventually ended up in India. The Atlanteans, a patriarchal
civilization with an extremely materialistic, technologically oriented
culture, deemed themselves "Masters of the World" and eventually sent
a well-equipped army to India in order to subjugate the Rama Empire
and bring it under the suzerainty of Atlantis.
One account of the battle, related by the Lemurian Fellowship, tells
how the Rama Empire Priest-Kings defeated the Atlanteans. Equipped
with a formidable force and a "fantastic array of weapons", the
Atlanteans landed in their vailixi outside one of the Rama cities, got
their troops in order and sent a message to the ruling Priest-King of
the city that he should surrender. The Priest-King sent word back to
the Atlantean General:
We of India have no quarrel with you of Atlantis. We ask only that
we be permitted to follow our own way of life.
Regarding the ruler's mild request as a confession of weakness and
expecting an easy victory--as the Rama Empire did not possess the
technology of war or the aggressiveness of the Atlanteans--the
Atlantean General sent another message:
We shall not destroy your land with the mighty weapons at our
command, provided you pay sufficient tribute and accept the rulership
of Atlantis.
The Priest-King of the city responded humbly again, seeking to avert
war:
We of India do not believe in war and strife, peace being our
ideal. Neither would we destroy you or your soldiers who but follow
orders. However, if you persist in your determination to attack us
without cause and merely for the purpose of conquest, you will leave
us no recourse but to destroy you and all of your leaders. Depart, and
leave us in peace.
Arrogantly, the Atlanteans did not believe that the Indians had the
power to stop them, certainly not by technical means. At dawn, the
Atlantean army began to march on the city. From a high viewpoint, the
Priest-King sadly watched the army advance. Then he raised his arms
heavenward, and using a particular mental technique he caused the
General and then each officer in order of rank to drop dead in his
tracks, perhaps of some sort of heart failure. In a panic, and without
leaders, the remaining Atlantean force fled to the waiting vailixi and
retreated in terror to Atlantis. Of the sieged Rama city, not one man
was lost.
While this may be nothing but fanciful conjecture, the Indian epics go
on to tell the rest of the horrible story, and things do not turn out
well for Rama. Assuming the above story is true, Atlantis was not
pleased at the humiliating defeat and therefore used its most powerful
and destructive weapon--quite possibly an atomic-type weapon!
Consider these verses from the ancient Mahabharata:
...(it was) a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns
Rose in all its splendor...
..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
..The corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognizable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.
After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected...
...to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment.24
In the way we traditionally view ancient history, it seems absolutely
incredible that there was an atomic war approximately 10,000 years
ago. And yet, of what else could the Mahabharata be speaking? Perhaps
this is just a poetic way to describe cavemen clubbing each other to
death; after all, that is what we are told the ancient past was like.
Until the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, modern mankind could not
imagine any weapon as horrible and devastating as those described in
the ancient Indian texts. Yet they very accurately described the
effects of an atomic explosion. Radioactive poisoning will make hair
and nails fall out. Immersing oneself in water gives some respite,
though is not a cure.
Interestingly, Manhattan Project chief scientist Dr J. Robert
Oppenheimer was known to be familiar with ancient Sanskrit literature.
In an interview conducted after he watched the first atomic test, he
quoted from the Bhagavad Gita:
'Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.'
I suppose we all felt that way.
When asked in an interview at Rochester University seven years after
the Alamogordo nuclear test whether that was the first atomic bomb
ever to be detonated, his reply was: ..............Well, yes, in
modern history
Great Civilizations Meet their Doom
Incredible as it may seem, archaeologists have found evidence in India
and Pakistan, indicating that some cities were destroyed in atomic
explosions. When excavations of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro reached the
street level, they discovered skeletons scattered about the cities,
many holding hands and sprawling in the streets as if some instant,
horrible doom had taken place. People were just lying, unburied, in
the streets of the city. And these skeletons are thousands of years
old, even by traditional archaeological standards. What could cause
such a thing? Why did the bodies not decay or get eaten by wild
animals? Furthermore, there is no apparent cause of a physically
violent death.
These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on par with
those at Nagasaki and Hiroshima. At one site, Soviet scholars found a
skeleton which had a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal.26
The Russian archaeologist A. Gorbovsky mentions the high incidence of
radiation associated with the skeletons in his 1966 book, Riddles of
Ancient History. 27 Furthermore, thousands of fused lumps, christened
"black stones", have been found at Mohenjo-Daro. These appear to be
fragments of clay vessels that melted together in extreme heat.
Other cities have been found in northern India that show indications
of explosions of great magnitude. One such city, found between the
Ganges and the mountains of Rajmahal, seems to have been subjected to
intense heat. Huge masses of walls and foundations of the ancient city
are fused together, literally vitrified! And since there is no
indication of a volcanic eruption at Mohenjo-Daro or at the other
cities, the intense heat to melt clay vessels can only be explained by
an atomic blast or some other unknown weapon.28, 29, 30 The cities
were wiped out entirely.
If we accept the Lemurian Fellowship stories as fact, then Atlantis
wanted to waste no more time with the Priest-Kings of Rama and their
mental tricks. In terrifying revenge, they utterly destroyed the Rama
Empire, leaving no country even to pay tribute to them. The areas
around the cities of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro have also been desolated
in the past, though agriculture takes place to a limited extent in the
vicinity today.
It is said in esoteric literature that Atlantis at the same time, or
shortly afterwards, also attempted to subjugate a civilization extant
in the area of the Gobi Desert, which was then a fertile plain. By
using so-called scalar wave weaponry and firing through the centre of
the Earth, they wiped out their adversaries--and possibly did
themselves in at the same time!
Much speculation naturally exists in connection with remote history.
We may never actually know the complete truth, though ancient texts
still in existence are certainly a good start.
Atlantis met its own doom, according to Plato, by sinking into the
ocean in a mighty cataclysm--not too long after the war with the Rama
Empire, I imagine.
Kashmir is also connected with the fantastic war that destroyed the
Rama Empire in ancient times. The massive ruins of a temple called
Parshaspur can be found just outside Srinagar. It is a scene of total
destruction. Huge blocks of stone are scattered about a wide area,
giving the impression of explosive annihilation.31 Was Parshaspur
destroyed by some fantastic weapon during one of the horrendous
battles detailed in the Mahabharata?
Another curious sign of an ancient nuclear war in India is a giant
crater near Bombay. The nearly circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar
crater, located 400 kilometers northeast of Bombay and aged at less
than 50,000 years old, could be related to nuclear warfare of
antiquity. No trace of any meteoric material, etc., has been found at
the site or in the vicinity, and this is the world's only known
"impact" crater in basalt. Indications of great shock (from a pressure
exceeding 600,000 atmospheres) and intense, abrupt heat (indicated by
basalt glass spherules) can be ascertained from the site.
Orthodoxy cannot, of course, concede nuclear possibilities for such
craters, even in the absence of any material meteorite or related
evidence. If such geologically recent craters as the Lonar are of
meteoric origin, then why don't such tremendous meteorites fall today?
The Earth's atmosphere 50,000 years ago probably was not much
different from today's, so a lighter atmosphere cannot be advanced as
an hypothesis to explain an immense-sized meteorite, which of course
would be considerably reduced by heat oxidization within a gaseously
heavier atmosphere. A theory was advanced by American space consultant
Pat Frank, to the effect that some of the huge craters on the Earth
may be scars from ancient nuclear explosions!
The echoes of ancient atomic warfare in southern Asia continue to this
day, with India and Pakistan currently threatening each other. Modern
India is proud of its nukes, likening them to "Rama's Arrow".
Similarly, Pakistan would love to use its Islamic atomic bombs on
India. Ironically, Kashmir, being the reason and possibly the site of
first will be delhi .....!!!
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12 Dec 2007 04:20:51 AM |
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<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20071211XyjhSZ9K3IfGWwOgz5E6Ay4@DH60m...
: Science -- we Hindus did it first.
That sentence alone makes and marks you as a jerk-off.
It's time I cleaned out the chaff.
*plonk*
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12 Dec 2007 08:32:46 AM |
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Androcles wrote:
<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20071211XyjhSZ9K3IfGWwOgz5E6Ay4@DH60m...
: Science -- we Hindus did it first.
That sentence alone makes and marks you as a jerk-off.
It's time I cleaned out the chaff.
*plonk*
There's a rumour that Atlantis may be buried under the ice masses of the
South Pole .. There have been found massive ceilings of a mineral called
mica in old caves, made by humans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mica
For what reason? The only sensible reason one can think of is protection
against fire "from above": missiles, air attacks .. Legends of the Inuit
speak of "iron birds" which transported their ancestors to the North.
http://greyfalcon.us/Mysteries.htm
Why not? It has cost only a _hundred_ years to build up our magnificent
technology. This is a very short time, when compared with the lifetime
of humanity. Maybe history is simply repeating itself. If civilizations
greater than ours have been destroyed completely, that might imply some
serious lessons for ourselves.
Han de Bruijn
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12 Dec 2007 09:04:06 AM |
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"Han de Bruijn" <Han.deBruijn@DTO.TUDelft.NL> wrote in message
news:344a0$475ff10f$82a1e228$24640@news1.tudelft.nl...
: Androcles wrote:
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: > <usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
: > message news:20071211XyjhSZ9K3IfGWwOgz5E6Ay4@DH60m...
: > : Science -- we Hindus did it first.
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: > That sentence alone makes and marks you as a jerk-off.
: > It's time I cleaned out the chaff.
: > *plonk*
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: There's a rumour
Oh whoopee. Fucking gossip.
*plonk*
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| User: "and/or www.mantra.com/jai Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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12 Dec 2007 08:54:43 PM |
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In article <7CO7j.94144$EU1.71352@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics_a> posted:
<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote:
Science -- we Hindus did it first.
That sentence . . .
. . . is explained below, in part:
HINDU WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE AND SCIENCE
Excerpt:
"India's heritage of solving problems is often overshadowed
by centuries of colonialism and conquest. Outside Delhi I
visited one of the oldest monuments to that history . . .
pillar of iron alloy, smelted by Indian metallurgists with
such skill that it has remained rustless for 1,500 years.
[Photograph on page 533.] These superb technicians were
brethren of Indian thinkers who originated the concepts of
zero and infinity and devised the inaccurately named Arabic
numeral system, giving the science of mathematics to a
world drenched in superstitious ignorance.
- Bryan Hodgson in the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAGAZINE,
Volume 167, Number 4, April 1965, page 527.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
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13 Dec 2007 02:05:14 PM |
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"Dr. Jai Maharaj" wrote:
[snip crap]
"India's heritage of solving problems is often overshadowed
by centuries of colonialism and conquest.
[snip mre carap]
Washing with cow urine, drinking morning urine (Damar Tantra; amaroli,
shivambu; Prime Minister Morarji Desai)... man, those must have been
some problems. Based upon empirical visual evidence
new:alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.indian-asian
one might imagine the primary and overwhelming problem to be addressed
on the subcontinent is finding the wet spot under all that rank black
body hair and fat. This would be exacerbated by East Indian males, on
the average, having south Asian small phalluses. Look it up... or
down.
Two words: laser depilation. Build an extra ten gigawatt nuclear
power plant to run it.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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13 Dec 2007 03:15:20 PM |
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
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: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" wrote:
: [snip crap]
Of course... be glad to snip your crap anytime, you fucking moron.
Catch 22:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img22.gif
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img76.gif
Heller wrote: "There was only one catch and that was Catch 22, which
specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were
real and immediate was the process of a rational mind.
"Orr (a character in the novel) was crazy and could be grounded. All he had
to do was ask, and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would
have to fly more missions.
"Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he
was sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have
to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to."
In Einstein's case if you use c+v you can derive c = (c+v)/(1+v/c) from
the cuckoo malformations he blamed on Lorentz. That says you can't
use c+v.
What troll kooks like Schwartz, Poe, McCullough, Roberts, Draper, Lawrence,
Andersen, Nieminen, ewill, Olson, Tom & Jeery et. al. fail to realise is
the existence of isomorphism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomorphism
between Sagnac's real experiment and Einstein's hallucination experiment,
shown here:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/TwoSpeedRack.gif
Einstein sends light along the rack and back again, the rack
moving at velocity v in his pipe dream.
Sagnac sends the light around the gear wheel for real.
If you analyse one you should get the same result as the other, but
you cannot use SR to derive SR, that is petitio principii, circularity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
c+v is essential to the derivation of the cuckoo malformations, the
part where Einstein screws up is:
'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' because I SAY SO. -- Rabbi Albert Einstein
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/tAB=tBA.gif
Here are some mathematical proofs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_proof
Not included are
Proof by "because I say so",
Proof by "everybody knows",
Proof by "it is written",
the three most popular forms used in sci.physics.relativity.
You'll often see this pathetic mob muttering "Lorentz Transformations"
but they haven't a clue how they are derived and faithfully follow their
indoctrination like lemmings.
Catch 22:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img22.gif
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img76.gif
Prediction:
The troll kooks will ignore it, they are too stooopid to understand a
proof.
RULES OF REASONING IN PHILOSOPHY.
RULE I.
We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true
and sufficient to explain their appearances.
To this purpose the philosophers say that Nature does nothing in vain,
and more is in vain when less will serve; for Nature is pleased with
simplicity,
and affects not the pomp of superfluous causes.
-- Sir Isaac Newton
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Science and technology in ancient India
[ From: ramakrishna tadikonda <tramakr...@yahoo.com>
[ Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005
Science and technology in ancient India
Science and technology in ancient India covered all the
major branches of human knowledge and activities,
including mathematics, astronomy, physics, chemistry,
medical science and surgery, fine arts, mechanical and
production technology, civil engineering and
architecture, shipbuilding and navigation, sports and
games.
Grant Duff, a British historian has remarked: "Many of
the advances in the sciences that we consider today to
have been made in Europe were in fact made in India
centuries ago".
Introduction
Ancient India was a land of sages, saints and seers as
well as a land of scholars and scientists. Ancient
India's contribution to science and technology include:
Mathematics -- Vedic literature is replete with concepts
of zero, the techniques of algebra and algorithm, square
root and cube root.
Astronomy -- Rg Ved (2000 BCE) refers to astronomy.
Physics -- Concepts of atom and theory of relativity were
explicitly stated by an Indian Philosopher around 600
BCE.
Chemistry -- Principles of chemistry did not remain
abstract but also found expression in distillation of
perfumes, aromatic liquids, manufacturing of dyes and
pigments, and extraction of sugar.
Medical science & surgery -- Around 800 BCE, first
compendium on medicine and surgery was complied in
ancient India.
Fine Arts -- Vedas were recited and recitation has to be
correct, which gave rise to a finer study of sound and
phonetics. The natural corollary were emergence of music
and other forms of performing arts.
Mechanical & production technology -- Greek historians
have testified to smelting of certain metals in India in
the 4th century BCE.
Civil engineering & architecture -- The discovery of
urban settlements of Mohenjodaro and Harappa indicate
existence of civil engineering & architecture, which
blossomed to a highly precise science of civil
engineering and architecture and found expression in
innumerable monuments of ancient India.
Shipbuilding & navigation -- Sanskrit and Pali texts have
several references to maritime activity by ancient
Indians.
Sports & games -- Ancient India is the birth place of
chess, ludo, snakes and ladders and playing cards.
Mathematics
Mathematics represents a very high level of abstraction
attained by human brain. In ancient India, roots to
mathematics can be traced to Vedic literature, which are
around 4000 years old. Between 1000 BCE and 1000 CE, a
number of mathematical treatises were authored in India.
Will Durant, American historian (1885-1981) has once said
that "India was the mother of our philosophy... of much
of our mathematics."
It is now generally accepted that India is the birth
place of several mathematical concepts, including zero,
algebra and algorithm, square root and cube root. Zero is
a numeral as well as a concept. It owes its origin to the
Indian philosophy which had a concept of "sunya", literal
translation of which is "void", and zero emerged as a
derivative symbol to represent this philosophical
concept.
Geometrical theories and pattern were not unknown to
ancient Indians and find display in motifs on temple
walls, which are in many cases replete with mix of floral
and geometric patterns. The method of graduated
calculation was documented in a book named "Five
Principles" (Panch-Siddhantika) which dates to 5th
Century CE.
A. L. Basham, an Australian Indologist, writes in his
book, The Wonder That was India that "... the world owes
most to India in the realm of mathematics, which was
developed in the Gupta period to a stage more advanced
than that reached by any other nation of antiquity. The
success of Indian mathematics was mainly due to the fact
that Indians had a clear conception of the abstract
number as distinct from the numerical quantity of objects
or spatial extension."
Algebric theories, as also other mathematical concepts,
which were in circulation in ancient India, were
collected and further developed by Aryabhatta, an Indian
mathematician, who lived in the 5th century, in the city
of Patna, then called Pataliputra. He has referred to
Algebra (as Bijaganitam) in his treatise on mathematics
named "Aryabhattiya" Another mathematician of the 12th
century, Bhaskaracharya also authored several treatises
on the subject -- one of them, named "Siddantha
Shiromani" has a chapter on algebra. In 1816, James
Taylor translated Bhaskaracharya's Leelavati into
English. Another translation of the same work by English
astronomer Henry Thomas Colebruke appeared next year in
1817.
The credit for fine-tuning and internationalizing these
mathematical concepts - which had originated in India --
goes to the Arabs and Persians. Al-Khawarizmi, a Persian
mathematician, developed a technique of calculation that
became known as "algorism." This was the seed from which
modern arithmetic algorithms have developed. Al-
Khwarizmi's work was translated into Latin under the
title Algoritmi de numero Indorum, meaning "The System of
Indian Numerals." A mathematician in Arabic is called
Hindsa which means "from India."
Bhaskar, followed by Madhav and other mathematicians of
the Kerala school made major inroads into the invention
of Calculus that were not to be repeated anywhere until
the 17th century by Newton and Leibnitz.
Astronomy
Ancient India's contributions in the field of astronomy
are well known and well documented and earliest
references to astronomy are found in the Rig Ved, which
are dated 2000 BCE. During next 2500 years, by 500 CE,
ancient Indian astronomy has emerged as an important part
of Indian studies and its affect is also seen in several
treatises of that period. In some instances, astronomical
principles were borrowed to explain matters, pertaining
to astrology, like casting of a horoscope. Apart from
this linkage of astronomy with astrology in ancient
India, science of astronomy continued to develop
independently, and culminated into original findings,
like:
The calculation of occurrences of eclipses
Determination of Earth's circumference
Theorizing about the theory of gravitation
Determining that sun was a star and determination of
number of plants under our solar system
Physics
The root to the concept of atom in ancient India is
derived from the classification of material world in five
basic elements by ancient Indian philosophers. These five
"elements" and such a classification existed since the
Vedic times, around 3000 BCE before. These five elements
were the earth (prithvi), fire (agni), air (maya), water
(jaal) and ether or space (aksha). These elements were
also associated with human sensory perceptions: earth
with smell, air with feeling, fire with vision, water
with taste and ether/space with sound. Later on, Buddhist
philosophers replaced ether/space with life, joy and
sorrow.
-From ancient times, Indian philosophers believed that
except ether or space, all other elements were physically
palpable and hence comprised of small and minuscule
particles of matter. They believed that the smallest
particle which could not be subdivided further was
parmanu, a Sanskrit word. Paramanu is made of two
Sanskrit words, param meaning ultimate or beyond and anu
meaning atom. Thus, the term "paramanu" literally means
"beyond atom" and this was a concept at an abstract level
which indicated the possibility of splitting atom, which
is now the source of atomic energy.
Kanada, a 6th century, Indian philosopher was the first
person who went deep systematically in such theorization.
Another Indian, philosopher, Pakudha Katyayana, who was a
contemporary of Buddha, also propounded the ideas about
the atomic constitution of the material world. All these
were based on logic and philosophy and lacked any
empirical basis for want of commensurate technology.
Similarly, the concept of theory of relativity was
available in an embryonic form in the Indian
philosophical concept of "sapekshavad", the literal
translation of this Sanskrit word is "theory of
relativity".
These theories have attracted attention of the
Indologists, and A. L. Basham, a veteran Australian
Indologist has concluded that "they were brilliant
imaginative explanations of the physical structure of the
world, and in a large measure, agreed with the
discoveries of modern physics." When the Greeks came into
contacts with Indian in 4th century BCE, these ideas were
further discussed and developed by them.
Chemistry
Ancient India's development in chemistry was not confined
at an abstract level like physics, but found development
in a variety of practical activities.
In any early civilization, metallurgy has remained an
activity central to all civilizations from the Bronze Age
and the Iron Age, to all other civilizations that
followed. It is believed that the basic idea of smelting
reached ancient India from Mesopotamia and the Near East.
In ancient India, the science of smelting reached a high
level of refinement and precision. In the 5th century
BCE, the Greek historian Herodotus has observed that
"Indian and the Persian army used arrows tipped with
iron." Ancient Romans were using armour and cutlery made
of Indian iron.
In India itself, certain objects testify to the higher
level of metallurgy achieved by the ancient Indians. By
the side of Qutub Minar, a World heritage site, in Delhi,
stands an Iron Pillar. The pillar is believed to be cast
in the Gupta period around circa 500 CE. The pillar is
7.32 meters tall, tapering from a diameter of 40 cms at
the base to 30 cms at the top and is estimated to weigh 6
tonnes. It has been standing in the open for last 1500
years, withstanding the wind, heat and weather, but still
has not rusted, except very minor natural erosion. This
kind of rust proof iron was not possible till iron and
steel was discovered few decades before.
The advance nature of ancient India's chemical science
also finds expression in other fields, like distillation
of perfumes and fragment ointments, manufacturing of dyes
and chemicals, polishing of mirrors, preparation of
pigments and colours. Paintings found on walls of Ajanta
and Ellora (both World heritage sites) which look fresh
even after 1000 years, also testify to the high level of
chemical science achieved in ancient India.
Medicine & surgery
Ayurved as a science of medicine owes its origins in
ancient India. Ayurved consists of two Sanskrit words --
'ayur' meaning age or life, and 'ved' which means
knowledge. Thus, the literal meaning of Ayurved is the
science of life or longevity. Ayurved constitutes ideas
about ailments and diseases, their symptoms, diagnosis
and cure, and relies heavily on herbal medicines,
including extracts of several plants of medicinal values.
This reliance on herbs differentiates Ayurved from
systems like Allopathy and Homeopathy. Ayurved has also
always disassociated itself with witch doctors and
voodoo.
Ancient scholars of India like Atreya[1]
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and Agnivesa have dealt with principles of Ayurved as
long back as 800 BCE. Their works and other developments
were consolidated by Charaka who compiled a compendium of
Ayurvedic principles and practices in his treatise
'Charak-Samahita, " which remained like a standard
textbook almost for 2000 years and was translated into
many languages, including Arabic and Latin. 'Charaka-
Samahita' deals with a variety of matters covering
physiology, etiology and embryology, concepts of
digestion, metabolism, and immunity.
Preliminary concepts of genetics also find a mention, for
example, Charaka has theorized: blindness from the birth
is not due to any defect in the mother or the father, but
owes its origin in the ovum and the sperm.
In ancient India, several advances were also made in the
field of medical surgery. Specifically these advances
included areas like plastic surgery, extraction of
cataracts, and even dental surgery. Roots to the ancient
Indian surgery go back to at least circa 800 BCE.
Shushruta, a medical theoretician and practitioner, lived
2000 years before, in the ancient Indian city of Kasi,
now called Varanasi. He wrote a medical compendium called
'Shushruta-Samahita. This ancient medical compendium
describes at least seven branches of surgery: Excision,
Scarification, Puncturing, Exploration, Extraction,
Evacuation, and Suturing. The compendium also deals with
matters like rhinoplasty (plastic surgery) and
ophthalmology (ejection of cataracts). The compendium
also focuses on the study the human anatomy by using a
dead body.
Yoga is a system of exercise for physical and mental
nourishment. The origins of yoga are shrouded in
antiquity and mystery. Since Vedic times, thousand of
years before, the principles and practice of yoga have
crystallized. But, it was only around 200 BCE that all
the fundamentals of yoga were collected by Patanjali in
his treatise, named "Yogasutra", that is, "Yoga-
Aphorisms." (For more information, see Yoga Sutras of
Patanjali.) In short, Patanjali surmised that through the
practice of yoga, the energy latent within the human body
may be made live and released, which has a salubrious
affect on the body and the mind. Now, in modern times,
clinical practices have established that several
ailments, including hypertension, clinical depression,
amnesia, acidity, can be controlled and managed by yogic
practices. The application of yoga in physiotherapy is
also gaining recognition.
Fine arts
Max Muller, a German Indologist has once declared that "
If I am asked which nation had been advanced in the
ancient world in respect of education and culture then I
would say it was -- India." Ancient India's fine art and
performing arts attest to this fact. This find expression
in music, musical instruments, dancing, paintings and
several other art forms.
Music had a divine character in India and in recognition
of that the Indian Goddess of learning, Saraswati is
always shown holding a musical instrument, namely, the
veena. Likewise, Krishna is associated with 'banshi',
that is, the flute - a musical instrument, which traveled
throughout the world from India. Indian devotional songs
and reciting influenced religious recitations in several
eastern countries, where the style was adopted by
Buddhists monks. The India developed several types of
musical instruments and forms of dancing, with delicate
body movements and grace.
Paintings have remained the oldest art form as found in
several cave paintings across the globe. In India also,
in places like Bhimbetka, a UNESCO declared world
heritage site, pre-historic cave paintings have been
discovered. In relatively recent times, paintings and
carvings on rock had significantly developed, and many
such rock carvings have been found dating to the period
of the emperor Ashoka. Indian influences may be seen in
paintings at Bamiyan, Afghanistan, and in Miran and Domko
in Central Asia. Sometimes, such paintings depict not
only Buddha but Hindu deities such as Shiva, Ganesha and
Surya.
Production technology
Mechanical and production technology of ancient India
ensured processing of natural produce and their
conversion into merchandise of trade, commerce and
export. A number of travelers and historians (including
Megasthanese, Ptolemy, Faxian, Huen Tsang, Marco Polo, Al
Beruni and Ibn Batuta) have indicated a variety of items,
which were produced, consumed and exported around the
known world by the ancient Indians.
Civil engineering & architecture
India's urban civilization is traceable to Mohenjodaro
and Harappa, now in Pakistan, where planned urban
townships existed 5000 years before. From then onwards,
the ancient Indian architecture and civil engineering
continued to develop and grow. It found manifestation in
construction of temples, palaces and forts across the
Indian peninsula and the neighbouring regions. In ancient
India, architecture and civil engineering was known as
sthapatya-kala, literal translation of which means the
art of constructing (something).
During the periods of Kushan Empire and Maurya empires,
the Indian architecture and civil engineering reached to
regions like Baluchistan and Afghanistan. Statues of
Buddha were cut out, covering entire mountain faces and
cliffs, like Buddhas of Bamiyan, Afghanistan. Over a
period of time, ancient Indian art of construction
blended with Greek styles and spread to Central Asia.
On the other side, Buddhism took Indian style of
architecture and civil engineering to countries like Sri
Lanka, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia,
Thailand, Burma, China, Korea and Japan. Angkor Wat is a
living testimony to the contribution of Indian civil
engineering and architecture the Cambodian Khmer heritage
in the field of architecture and civil engineering.
In mainland India of today, there are several marvels of
ancient India's architectural heritage, including World
heritage sites like Ajanta, Ellora, Khajuraho, Mahabodhi
Temple, Sanchi, Brihadisvara Temple and Mahabalipuram.
Shipbuilding & navigation
A panel found in Mohenjodaro depicts a sailing craft, and
thousands of years later Ajanta murals also depict a sea-
faring ship. The science of shipbuilding and navigation
was well known to ancient Indians. Sanskrit and Pali
texts are replete with maritime references, and ancient
Indians, particularly from the coastal regions, were
having commercial relations with several countries of
across the Bay of Bengal like Cambodia, Java, Sumatra,
Borneo, and even up to China. Similar maritime and trade
relations existed with countries across the Arabian Sea
like Arabia, Egypt and Persia.
Even around circa 500 CE, sextants and mariner's compass
were not unknown to ancient Indian shipbuilders and
navigators. J.L. Reid, a member of the Institute of Naval
Architects and Shipbuilders, England, at around the
beginning of the 20th century has got published in the
Bombay Gazetteer (Volume XIII, Part II, Appendix A) that
"The early Hindu astrologers are said to have used the
magnet, in fixing the North and East, in laying
foundations, and other religious ceremonies. The Hindu
compass was an iron fish that floated in a vessel of oil
and pointed to the North. The fact of this older Hindu
compass seems placed beyond doubt by the Sanskrit word
'Maccha-Yantra', or 'fish-machine', which Molesworth
gives as a name for the mariner's compass".
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TRIBUTES TO HINDUISM
1. Mahatma Gandhi:
"Hinduism has made marvelous discoveries in things of
religion, of the spirit, of the soul. We have no eye for
these great and fine discoveries. We are dazzled by the
material progress that western science has made. Ancient
India has survived because Hinduism was not developed
along material but spiritual lines.
"India is to me the dearest country in the world, because
I have discovered goodness in it. It has been subject to
foreign rule, it is true. But the status of a slave is
preferable to that of a slave holder."
2. Henry David Thoreau:
"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous
and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in
comparison with which our modern world and its literature
seems puny.
"What extracts from the Vedas I have read fall on me like
the light of a higher and purer luminary, which describes
a loftier course through purer stratum. It rises on me
like the full moon after the stars have come out, wading
through some far stratum in the sky."
3. Arthur Schopenhauer:
"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and
so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the
solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death."
4. Ralph Waldo Emerson said this about the Gita:
"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita. It was as
if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but
large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old
intelligence which in another age and climate had
pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which
exercise us."
The famous poem "Brahm" is an example of his Vedanta
ecstasy.
5. Wilhelm von Humboldt pronounced the Gita as:
"The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical
song existing in any known tongue ... perhaps the deepest
and loftiest thing the world has to show."
6. Lord Warren Hastings, the Governor General, was very
much impressed with Hindu philosophy:
"The writers of the Indian philosophies will survive,
when the British dominion in India shall long have ceased
to exist, and when the sources which it yielded of wealth
and power are lost to remembrances."
7. Mark Twain:
"So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left
undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most
extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds.
Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked.
"Land of religions, cradle of human race, birthplace of
human speech, grandmother of legend, great grandmother of
tradition. The land that all men desire to see and having
seen once even by a glimpse, would not give that glimpse
for the shows of the rest of the globe combined."
8. Rudyard Kipling to Fundamental Christian Missionaries:
"Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle
the Hindu brown for the Christian riles and the Hindu
smiles and weareth the Christian down; and the end of the
fight is a tombstone while with the name of the late
deceased and the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here who
tried to hustle the east".
9. Jules Michelet, a French historian, said:
"At its starting point in India, the birthplace of races
and religions, the womb of the world." This is what he
said of the Ramayan in 1864: "Whoever has done or willed
too much let him drink from this deep cup a long draught
of life and youth .. . Everything is narrow in the West -
- Greece is small and I stifle; Judea is dry and I pant.
Let me look toward lofty Asia, and the profound East for
a little while. There lies my great poem, as vast as the
Indian ocean, blessed, gilded with the sun, the book of
divine harmony wherein is no dissonance. A serene peace
reigns there, and in the midst of conflict an infinite
sweetness, a boundless fraternity, which spreads over all
living things, an ocean (without bottom or bound) of
love, of pity, of clemency."
10. Shri Aurobindo:
"Hinduism.....gave itself no name, because it set itself
no sectarian limits; it claimed no universal adhesion,
asserted no sole infallible dogma, set up no single
narrow path or gate of salvation; it was less a creed or
cult than a continuously enlarging tradition of the
Godward endeavor of the human spirit. An immense many-
sided and many staged provision for a spiritual self-
building and self-finding, it had some right to speak of
itself by the only name it knew, the eternal religion,
sanaatan dharm...."
11. Will Durant would like the West to learn from India,
tolerance and gentleness and love for all living things:
"Perhaps in return for conquest, arrogance and
spoliation, India will teach us the tolerance and
gentleness of the mature mind, the quiet content of the
unacquisitive soul, the calm of the understanding spirit,
and a unifying, a pacifying love for all living things."
12. Joseph Campbell:
"It is ironic that our great western civilization, which
has opened to the minds of all mankind the infinite
wonders of a universe of untold billions of galaxies
should be saddled with the tightest little cosmological
image known to mankind? The Hindus with their grandiose
Kalpas and their ideas of the divine power which is
beyond all human category (male or female). Not so alien
to the imagery of modern science that it could not have
been put to acceptable use.
"There is an important difference between the Hindu and
the Western ideas. In the Biblical tradition, God creates
man, but man cannot say that he is divine in the same
sense that the Creator is, where as in Hinduism, all
things are incarnations of that power. We are the sparks
from a single fire. And we are all fire. Hinduism
believes in the omnipresence of the Supreme God in every
individual. There is no 'fall'. Man is not cut off from
the divine. He requires only to bring the spontaneous
activity of his mind stuff to a state of stillness and he
will experience that divine principle with him."
13. Sir Monier-Williams:
The Hindus, according to him, were Spinozists more than
2,000 years before the advent of Spinoza, and Darwinians
many centuries before Darwin and Evolutionists many
centuries before the doctrine of Evolution was accepted
by scientists of the present age.
14. Carl Sagan, (the late scientist), asserts that the
dance of Nataraj signifies the cycle of evolution and
destruction of the cosmic universe (Big Bang Theory). "It
is the clearest image of the activity of God which any
art or religion can boast of."
15. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, a professor of Eastern
Religions at Oxford and later President of India:
"Hinduism is not just a faith. It is the union of reason
and intuition that cannot be defined but is only to be
experienced. Evil and error are not ultimate. There is no
Hell, for that means there is a place where God is not,
and there are sins which exceed his love."
Jai Maharaj
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Om Shanti
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Science and technology in ancient India
[ From: ramakrishna tadikonda <tramakr...@yahoo.com>
[ Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005
Science and technology in ancient India
First on the Moon. They used a Rope.
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i was very amazed to read your eye opening post. in the west the hindus are
thought as pagans who must be converted. how sad it is then the western
churches want to detroy a civilization and culture as beautiful as hinduism.
thanks, dr. jai maharaj for your wonderful public service in educating -
specially the west.
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Dhanyavaad, harmony ji. The intelligent among western
folks can realize the truth -- and they do -- and then
the naysayers in Bharat who like to ape the West can
start seeing the beauty of Hindu wisdom.
Jai Maharaj
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Om Shanti
In article <4762b571$0$5269$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
i was very amazed to read your eye opening post. in the west the hindus are
thought as pagans who must be converted. how sad it is then the western
churches want to detroy a civilization and culture as beautiful as hinduism.
thanks, dr. jai maharaj for your wonderful public service in educating -
specially the west.
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Science and technology in ancient India
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Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc., who is not an indian was led to post:
""India's heritage of solving problems is often overshadowed by
centuries of colonialism and conquest. Outside Delhi I visited one of
the oldest monuments to that history . . . pillar of iron alloy, smelted
by Indian metallurgists with such skill that it has remained rustless
for 1,500 years. [Photograph on page 533.] These superb technicians were
brethren of Indian thinkers who originated the concepts of zero and
infinity and devised the inaccurately named Arabic numeral system,
giving the science of mathematics to a world drenched in superstitious
ignorance."
All 5 independent locations of complex cultures developed highly
advanced metallurgy. They were in the countries now of peru, mexico,
egypt, iraq, pakistan, and china.
All also had advanced math with some form of accounting for zeroand
numeral systems and other complex maths functions.
This shows the complete ignorance of the last crack above, s. asia was
not the source of anything from which all else came in the world.
This has nothing to do with the claims relative to the subject line
which has absolutely no hard evidence for it in the least.
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SCIENCE - WE DID IT FIRST
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Tachyons -- as everyone knows, don't they? -- are the whiz
kids of Einstein's light theories. They are faster than
light particles (would we see them if they had headlights?)
built as cosmic balancers into Albert's equations. They
represent metaphysical outriders in the material physics'
description of the universe.
Einstein didn't think up his gravity and light theories.
He intuitively imagined them in a process called "thought
experiment." He saw them in a trance-like state. No
experiments. Others nearly verified his theories
experimentally much later.
And that is basically how the Vedic scientitists of
millenia past parted the fabric of the cosmos -- with the
meditative mind. The results revolutionized human
knowledge and culture, and foreshadowed and outpaced many
of today's most exotic biological, astronomical and atomic
principles.
As much as the world honors Copernicus, Galileo, Newton,
Plank, Rutherford, Einstein and Heisenburg, the people of
India could have a bumper sticker that reads, "Science. We
did it first."
And science was not separated from the sacred as it is
today. Vedic science is charged with supernatural
connections and purpose, ultimately plugged into the
primeval energy and omniscience (omni-science) of Brahman.
The invention of the decimal, of numeration, including the
principles of zero and infinity in ancient India, are some
of the greatest contributions to human knowledge. Some
other discoveries include the heliocentric system of
astronomy, the concept of lunar mansions, or nakshatr's;
the precession of equinoxes due to Earth's axial tilt and
the determination of their rate; the establishment of luni-
solar and planetary years; the construction of an
astronomical calendar on a scientific basis; the rotation
of Earth on its axis; the knowledge of algebraic, geometric
and trigonometric principles; the spherical shapes of
planets; the role of interplanetary attraction in
equilibrium; to name only a few.
Vedic notions concerning time and space, the nature of
light and heat, gravity and magnetic attraction and the
wave-theory of sound, were later re-confirmed by modern
science.
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TRIBUTES TO HINDUISM
1. Mahatma Gandhi:
"Hinduism has made marvelous discoveries in things of
religion, of the spirit, of the soul. We have no eye for
these great and fine discoveries. We are dazzled by the
material progress that western science has made. Ancient
India has survived because Hinduism was not developed
along material but spiritual lines.
"India is to me the dearest country in the world, because
I have discovered goodness in it. It has been subject to
foreign rule, it is true. But the status of a slave is
preferable to that of a slave holder."
2. Henry David Thoreau:
"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous
and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in
comparison with which our modern world and its literature
seems puny.
"What extracts from the Vedas I have read fall on me like
the light of a higher and purer luminary, which describes
a loftier course through purer stratum. It rises on me
like the full moon after the stars have come out, wading
through some far stratum in the sky."
3. Arthur Schopenhauer:
"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and
so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the
solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death."
4. Ralph Waldo Emerson said this about the Gita:
"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita. It was as
if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but
large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old
intelligence which in another age and climate had
pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which
exercise us."
The famous poem "Brahm" is an example of his Vedanta
ecstasy.
5. Wilhelm von Humboldt pronounced the Gita as:
"The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical
song existing in any known tongue ... perhaps the deepest
and loftiest thing the world has to show."
6. Lord Warren Hastings, the Governor General, was very
much impressed with Hindu philosophy:
"The writers of the Indian philosophies will survive,
when the British dominion in India shall long have ceased
to exist, and when the sources which it yielded of wealth
and power are lost to remembrances."
7. Mark Twain:
"So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left
undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most
extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds.
Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked.
"Land of religions, cradle of human race, birthplace of
human speech, grandmother of legend, great grandmother of
tradition. The land that all men desire to see and having
seen once even by a glimpse, would not give that glimpse
for the shows of the rest of the globe combined."
8. Rudyard Kipling to Fundamental Christian Missionaries:
"Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle
the Hindu brown for the Christian riles and the Hindu
smiles and weareth the Christian down; and the end of the
fight is a tombstone while with the name of the late
deceased and the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here who
tried to hustle the east".
9. Jules Michelet, a French historian, said:
"At its starting point in India, the birthplace of races
and religions, the womb of the world." This is what he
said of the Ramayan in 1864: "Whoever has done or willed
too much let him drink from this deep cup a long draught
of life and youth .. . Everything is narrow in the West -
- Greece is small and I stifle; Judea is dry and I pant.
Let me look toward lofty Asia, and the profound East for
a little while. There lies my great poem, as vast as the
Indian ocean, blessed, gilded with the sun, the book of
divine harmony wherein is no dissonance. A serene peace
reigns there, and in the midst of conflict an infinite
sweetness, a boundless fraternity, which spreads over all
living things, an ocean (without bottom or bound) of
love, of pity, of clemency."
10. Shri Aurobindo:
"Hinduism.....gave itself no name, because it set itself
no sectarian limits; it claimed no universal adhesion,
asserted no sole infallible dogma, set up no single
narrow path or gate of salvation; it was less a creed or
cult than a continuously enlarging tradition of the
Godward endeavor of the human spirit. An immense many-
sided and many staged provision for a spiritual self-
building and self-finding, it had some right to speak of
itself by the only name it knew, the eternal religion,
sanaatan dharm...."
11. Will Durant would like the West to learn from India,
tolerance and gentleness and love for all living things:
"Perhaps in return for conquest, arrogance and
spoliation, India will teach us the tolerance and
gentleness of the mature mind, the quiet content of the
unacquisitive soul, the calm of the understanding spirit,
and a unifying, a pacifying love for all living things."
12. Joseph Campbell:
"It is ironic that our great western civilization, which
has opened to the minds of all mankind the infinite
wonders of a universe of untold billions of galaxies
should be saddled with the tightest little cosmological
image known to mankind? The Hindus with their grandiose
Kalpas and their ideas of the divine power which is
beyond all human category (male or female). Not so alien
to the imagery of modern science that it could not have
been put to acceptable use.
"There is an important difference between the Hindu and
the Western ideas. In the Biblical tradition, God creates
man, but man cannot say that he is divine in the same
sense that the Creator is, where as in Hinduism, all
things are incarnations of that power. We are the sparks
from a single fire. And we are all fire. Hinduism
believes in the omnipresence of the Supreme God in every
individual. There is no 'fall'. Man is not cut off from
the divine. He requires only to bring the spontaneous
activity of his mind stuff to a state of stillness and he
will experience that divine principle with him."
13. Sir Monier-Williams:
The Hindus, according to him, were Spinozists more than
2,000 years before the advent of Spinoza, and Darwinians
many centuries before Darwin and Evolutionists many
centuries before the doctrine of Evolution was accepted
by scientists of the present age.
14. Carl Sagan, (the late scientist), asserts that the
dance of Nataraj signifies the cycle of evolution and
destruction of the cosmic universe (Big Bang Theory). "It
is the clearest image of the activity of God which any
art or religion can boast of."
15. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, a professor of Eastern
Religions at Oxford and later President of India:
"Hinduism is not just a faith. It is the union of reason
and intuition that cannot be defined but is only to be
experienced. Evil and error are not ultimate. There is no
Hell, for that means there is a place where God is not,
and there are sins which exceed his love."
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14 Dec 2007 12:14:57 PM |
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and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Jay Stevens) writes:
Science -- we Hindus did it first.
"What you mean 'we,' white man?"
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13 Dec 2007 08:10:24 AM |
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Silly nonsense, all ancient writings have such strange descriptions. It
is a mistake to read backwards and pour meaning from current times into
them.
"Science -- we Hindus did it first."
Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc., is not indian and speaks no language of
india but english and is an american who has always lived in that
country.
He likes to sneak such as the above into posts so as to promote a wholly
invented internet image. He gave himself the indian sounding name and
the "dr." to make his astrology business more attractive to potential
customers.
He is an adult convert to hinduism only.
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