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User: "J Seymour MacNicely"
Date: 27 Mar 2007 03:49:50 AM
Object: Re: Bomb Iran!
"JC" <jimcolli@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:eM%Nh.
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It was a poorly executed troll. What will you
do? Travel 9,000 miles to kill a few more
Iraqis who had done nothing to you . . .

Like all those poor, innocent 'Palestinians' of 1948 living within the
Israeli partition, who, when they had heard the plans of the whole
Arab world to descend upon and finally liquidate their Jewish
neighbors, they were only too happy to pick up and 'temporarily' leave
their homes; honor the demands of their salivating leaders, so that
the ferocity of the invasion might proceed with all due, unimpeded
exterminating force to finish the job Germany and Russia before her
had left undone--?
And you suppose there should be no consequence for a people who honor
such designs, after the big boo-hoo of not getting their way? You
figure it should be up to the people they had hoped to throw in a big
smoking pile, to honor a "right of return"?
But those Jews say "Stick it!" And they mean it. And you can't handle
that. And that's just tough. And they say "Shove it" to you who are
the ignorant, indoctrinated, Jew-baiting supporters of the fake,
stinking to high heaven, Soviet created 'Palestinian' cause, so-
called. A "right of return" over every dead body of an Israeli hero
who fought to defend his people, whom those people had intended to
drown in the sea? Stick it! Stick it right up there, chummy. Ain't
going to happen, not ever. There are consequences for people who do
the worst dirt on earth to others like that. It's called a "come-
uppance" and they're not supposed to like it. ;-)

and then
recoil in horror at insurgents operating
a hundred miles from where they were born?

By such logic as that, William Clark Quantrill and Bloody Bill
Anderson, a couple of Yankees who joined as guerillas with the
Confederacy to lay slaughter to the peaceful citizens of Lawrence,
Kansas were just good ol' boys acting perfectly within their moral
Dixie Rebel right so to do--are ya nuts?
You don't have a stinking leg to stand on, you who stagger around here
in your idiot's dream of fellow feeling for the bloodiest lot of hate-
fed dupes on earth--as if you thought you were somehow carrying on in
a tradition of the great champions of the oppressed, like Gandhi, the
self-immolating Buddhists of Saigon and ML King maybe? Are ya nuts?
You who make heros of blood drinking barbarians.
Get a clue. These are savages whose cause can find justification only
in the heart of another savage--see the Aryan Nations, the KKK, Ralph
Nader and Rachel Corrie.
Other than ideals of extreme religious fanaticism and xenophobic
prejudice, these Shias of Iran you blubber your big, sloppy boo-hoos
for--what more do you find in their cause and culture to recommend
them--the right of every Palestinian man to return to his harem of
hooded, whipped women?
In his own ham-handed and blundering way, the President of the United
States sincerely sees what he is doing over there as purely, strictly
and absolutely an act of national self-defense. Go on, lie about it,
jump up and down and tear your shirt as you scream about oil profits
till you've got petroleum pouring from your pores, but that's just how
he and a great many Americans very clearly see it.
That's how Bush and I and many others see no distinction between Al
Qaida, the Ba'athists and the Shia, because they have all long been
allies in one thing, which is their towering joy over what happened
here on 9/11. And an alliance of hate like that is political; it's a
treaty whether signed in ink on paper or written in blood upon the
flesh of a shared ethnic or social pride. Hatred makes common cause,
in deadly conspiracy of multilateral fellow feeling.
They are all united in their hatred of the United States--and you
don't know it, but that makes them all complicit in the attack, and
therefore answerable, whether they conspire in it before or after the
fact. The hopes and dreams of all the world rulers of Islam, rode in
those jumbo jets that day, and that makes all the weak pushovers of
moderate/liberal Islam culpable.
Every Palestinian pal of yours who jumped for joy on that day needs to
find out just how it felt from this end, along with every Iraqi, every
Iranian, every Afghani stooge to the Taliban, and for that dance of
joy they shared on that day, they need to be made to dance to another
tune, other than the one their muezzins yodel from the minarets, like
*Stars and Stripes Forever*, played by the U. S. Marine Corps band on
the march through their smoking streets. There may come a day when
they begin to recognize it for a pretty catchy tune--with lyrics that
ain't half bad either . . .
"Be kind to your web-footed friends,
For a duck could be somebody's mother."


Take ***** Cheney and Tom DeLay with you. This
would be their chance finally to see some
action.

Two can play that game . . .
Take Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Usama bin Laden and the Unabomber with
you.
--
Mackie
http://vignettes-mackie.blogspot.com/
"Who Did the Dahlia?"
.

User: "funk420"

Title: Re: Bomb Iran! 27 Mar 2007 08:34:54 AM
On Mar 27, 10:49 am, "J Seymour MacNicely"
<mac_the_n...@bigstring.com> wrote:

"JC" <jimco...@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:eM%Nh.

3140$u03...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...

It was a poorly executed troll. What will you
do? Travel 9,000 miles to kill a few more
Iraqis who had done nothing to you . . .


Like all those poor, innocent 'Palestinians' of 1948 living within the
Israeli partition, who, when they had heard the plans of the whole
Arab world to descend upon and finally liquidate their Jewish
neighbors, they were only too happy to pick up and 'temporarily' leave
their homes; honor the demands of their salivating leaders, so that
the ferocity of the invasion might proceed with all due, unimpeded
exterminating force to finish the job Germany and Russia before her
had left undone--?

And you suppose there should be no consequence for a people who honor
such designs, after the big boo-hoo of not getting their way? You
figure it should be up to the people they had hoped to throw in a big
smoking pile, to honor a "right of return"?

But those Jews say "Stick it!" And they mean it. And you can't handle
that. And that's just tough. And they say "Shove it" to you who are
the ignorant, indoctrinated, Jew-baiting supporters of the fake,
stinking to high heaven, Soviet created 'Palestinian' cause, so-
called. A "right of return" over every dead body of an Israeli hero
who fought to defend his people, whom those people had intended to
drown in the sea? Stick it! Stick it right up there, chummy. Ain't
going to happen, not ever. There are consequences for people who do
the worst dirt on earth to others like that. It's called a "come-
uppance" and they're not supposed to like it. ;-)

Stick what where? What isn't going to happen again, Mr. Anti-semite?
Middle-easterners with dark skin and pointy noses are not all
terrorists.


and then
recoil in horror at insurgents operating
a hundred miles from where they were born?


By such logic as that, William Clark Quantrill and Bloody Bill
Anderson, a couple of Yankees who joined as guerillas with the
Confederacy to lay slaughter to the peaceful citizens of Lawrence,
Kansas were just good ol' boys acting perfectly within their moral
Dixie Rebel right so to do--are ya nuts?

You don't have a stinking leg to stand on, you who stagger around here
in your idiot's dream of fellow feeling for the bloodiest lot of hate-
fed dupes on earth--as if you thought you were somehow carrying on in
a tradition of the great champions of the oppressed, like Gandhi, the
self-immolating Buddhists of Saigon and ML King maybe? Are ya nuts?
You who make heros of blood drinking barbarians.

That's what you were trying to do, right? "Heros who defend their
people" was your quote.

Get a clue. These are savages whose cause can find justification only
in the heart of another savage--see the Aryan Nations, the KKK, Ralph
Nader and Rachel Corrie.

LOL
Lets see you pull the Rachel Corrie is to the KKK analogy off
somehow. Good luck.
Why didn't you include Ghandi in that list?

Other than ideals of extreme religious fanaticism and xenophobic
prejudice, these Shias of Iran you blubber your big, sloppy boo-hoos
for--what more do you find in their cause and culture to recommend
them--the right of every Palestinian man to return to his harem of
hooded, whipped women?

Is there some meaning in your rants? Palestinians of which religion?
Hooded and hooked to electrodes, is that your implication?

In his own ham-handed and blundering way, the President of the United
States sincerely sees what he is doing over there as purely, strictly
and absolutely an act of national self-defense. Go on, lie about it,
jump up and down and tear your shirt as you scream about oil profits
till you've got petroleum pouring from your pores, but that's just how
he and a great many Americans very clearly see it.

Yeah, clearly Iraq (if that's what you mean by "over there"), was a
serious enemy capable of threatening this super-power. Clearly
Fallujah is vital to the security of Kansas, in your world. We aren't
that stupid over here.

That's how Bush and I and many others see no distinction between Al
Qaida, the Ba'athists and the Shia, because they have all long been
allies in one thing, which is their towering joy over what happened
here on 9/11. And an alliance of hate like that is political; it's a
treaty whether signed in ink on paper or written in blood upon the
flesh of a shared ethnic or social pride. Hatred makes common cause,
in deadly conspiracy of multilateral fellow feeling.

And hatred seems to be the main trait you display in your ranting. I
pray for you, as it must not be a happy existence with such hatred in
your past.


They are all united in their hatred of the United States--and you
don't know it, but that makes them all complicit in the attack, and
therefore answerable, whether they conspire in it before or after the
fact. The hopes and dreams of all the world rulers of Islam, rode in
those jumbo jets that day, and that makes all the weak pushovers of
moderate/liberal Islam culpable.

I forgive your blatant antisemitism and scapegoating. I hope God will
do the same.

Every Palestinian pal of yours who jumped for joy on that day needs to
find out just how it felt from this end, along with every Iraqi, every
Iranian, every Afghani stooge to the Taliban, and for that dance of
joy they shared on that day, they need to be made to dance to another
tune, other than the one their muezzins yodel from the minarets, like
*Stars and Stripes Forever*, played by the U. S. Marine Corps band on
the march through their smoking streets. There may come a day when
they begin to recognize it for a pretty catchy tune--with lyrics that
ain't half bad either . . .

What a sad image, and an insult to Marines everywhere, who hope to
defend freedom and to not destroy cultures from blind hatred.
Good luck
.
User: "J Seymour MacNicely"

Title: Re: Bomb Iran! 27 Mar 2007 03:37:30 PM
"funk420" <funk420@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:
1175002494.686321.251400@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 27, 10:49 am, "J Seymour MacNicely"
<mac_the_n...@bigstring.com> wrote:

And they say "Shove it" to you who are
the ignorant, indoctrinated, Jew-baiting supporters of the fake,
stinking to high heaven, Soviet created 'Palestinian' cause, so-
called. A "right of return" over every dead body of an Israeli hero
who fought to defend his people, whom those people had intended to
drown in the sea? Stick it! Stick it right up there, chummy. Ain't
going to happen, not ever. There are consequences for people who do
the worst dirt on earth to others like that. It's called a "come-
uppance" and they're not supposed to like it. ;-)


Stick what where? What isn't going to happen again, Mr. Anti-semite?

Typical Neo-Lib trick. But if you could not resort to such
untruthfulness as that, you would have no position, no cause, no
politics at all. Lies are the language and the logic of the Left.

Middle-easterners with dark skin and pointy noses are not all
terrorists.

Again, eliding the implied falsehoods of that silly, slanderous
attribution, we get . . .
"Middle-easterners . . . are not all terrorists."
But as Lebanese Falangist Christians, Egyptian Copts, Israeli Druze
and Jews must be included in that category, it means nothing except to
display a typical neo-lib resort to some snotty stereotype about the
shape of Semitic noses, and so it must be further transliterated
to . . .
"Muslim Middle-easterners . . . are not all terrorists."
And that is not so. As they are all ruled by terror of Hezbollah,
Hamas, the Ba'ath and Mahdi Armies, leaving no voice nor power to a
'peaceful, moderate' Islam; as terrorism rules by the tacit,
unresisting assent of the those who are terrorized into submission--
*the precedents of international law set at Nuremberg see no excuse in
that*.
Get it? It is seen as a crime against humanity for any people so to
submit, to obey, to march in lock-step without resistance to any
tyranny of terror. The word *islam* means "submission" and it means
business. Every Muslim is a willing participant in that which makes
him submit: terror.
But here in the non-mediaeval world of the West that won't wash.
Revolt is expected, nay demanded. Something better and braver is
expected of modern man--all over the world. In short, so long as a
people allow themselves to be made the subjects of terror they are by
definition "muslim". They are the foot soldiers of it. Therefore . . .
"All Muslim Middle-easterners . . . are terrorists."
--
Mackie
http://vignettes-mackie.blogspot.com/
"Who Did the Dahlia?"
.
User: "funk420"

Title: Re: Bomb Iran! 27 Mar 2007 05:46:27 PM
On Mar 27, 10:37 pm, "J Seymour MacNicely"
<mac_the_n...@bigstring.com> wrote:

"funk420" <funk...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:

1175002494.686321.251...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 27, 10:49 am, "J Seymour MacNicely"
<mac_the_n...@bigstring.com> wrote:

And they say "Shove it" to you who are
the ignorant, indoctrinated, Jew-baiting supporters of the fake,
stinking to high heaven, Soviet created 'Palestinian' cause, so-
called. A "right of return" over every dead body of an Israeli hero
who fought to defend his people, whom those people had intended to
drown in the sea? Stick it! Stick it right up there, chummy. Ain't
going to happen, not ever. There are consequences for people who do
the worst dirt on earth to others like that. It's called a "come-
uppance" and they're not supposed to like it. ;-)


Stick what where? What isn't going to happen again, Mr. Anti-semite?


Typical Neo-Lib trick. But if you could not resort to such
untruthfulness as that, you would have no position, no cause, no
politics at all. Lies are the language and the logic of the Left.

The Left, where you clearly are coming from. Myself I'm squarely in
the Right.

Middle-easterners with dark skin and pointy noses are not all
terrorists.


Again, eliding the implied falsehoods of that silly, slanderous
attribution, we get . . .

"Middle-easterners . . . are not all terrorists."

But as Lebanese Falangist Christians, Egyptian Copts, Israeli Druze
and Jews must be included in that category, it means nothing except to
display a typical neo-lib resort to some snotty stereotype about the
shape of Semitic noses, and so it must be further transliterated
to . . .

"Muslim Middle-easterners . . . are not all terrorists."

Sure, if you would like. Also, Jewish Middle-easterners... are not
all terrorists.
Also, Arab Jews, are not all terrorists. All true.

And that is not so. As they are all ruled by terror of Hezbollah,
Hamas, the Ba'ath and Mahdi Armies, leaving no voice nor power to a
'peaceful, moderate' Islam; as terrorism rules by the tacit,
unresisting assent of the those who are terrorized into submission--
*the precedents of international law set at Nuremberg see no excuse in
that*.

Hmm.. so the guy I brought gas from off the NH turnpike last year,
was ruled by the terror of Hezbollah?
And so are millions of Detroit citizens? Somehow I don't buy it. The
oil sheiks of Saudi and the hotel owners of Dubai are ruled by Hamas?
Also unbelievable.


Get it? It is seen as a crime against humanity for any people so to
submit, to obey, to march in lock-step without resistance to any
tyranny of terror. The word *islam* means "submission" and it means
business. Every Muslim is a willing participant in that which makes
him submit: terror.

Sorry it took me so long to recognize your sarcasm. Funny one.

But here in the non-mediaeval world of the West that won't wash.
Revolt is expected, nay demanded.

ROFL. Revolt will never be demanded by those who fear it most.

Something better and braver is
expected of modern man--all over the world. In short, so long as a
people allow themselves to be made the subjects of terror they are by
definition "muslim". They are the foot soldiers of it. Therefore . . .

"All Muslim Middle-easterners . . . are terrorists."

</sarcasm>
Nice subtle propaganda debunking you have accomplished, but somehow
scary.
Do you think there are people who would really like others to believe
that quote? And why?
.


User: "J Seymour MacNicely"

Title: Re: Bomb Iran! 27 Mar 2007 12:50:18 PM
On Mar 27, 8:34 am, "funk420" <funk...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Mar 27, 10:49 am, "J Seymour MacNicely"





<mac_the_n...@bigstring.com> wrote:

"JC" <jimco...@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:eM%Nh.


3140$u03...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...


It was a poorly executed troll. What will you
do? Travel 9,000 miles to kill a few more
Iraqis who had done nothing to you . . .


Like all those poor, innocent 'Palestinians' of 1948 living within the
Israeli partition, who, when they had heard the plans of the whole
Arab world to descend upon and finally liquidate their Jewish
neighbors, they were only too happy to pick up and 'temporarily' leave
their homes; honor the demands of their salivating leaders, so that
the ferocity of the invasion might proceed with all due, unimpeded
exterminating force to finish the job Germany and Russia before her
had left undone--?


And you suppose there should be no consequence for a people who honor
such designs, after the big boo-hoo of not getting their way? You
figure it should be up to the people they had hoped to throw in a big
smoking pile, to honor a "right of return"?


But those Jews say "Stick it!" And they mean it. And you can't handle
that. And that's just tough. And they say "Shove it" to you who are
the ignorant, indoctrinated, Jew-baiting supporters of the fake,
stinking to high heaven, Soviet created 'Palestinian' cause, so-
called. A "right of return" over every dead body of an Israeli hero
who fought to defend his people, whom those people had intended to
drown in the sea? Stick it! Stick it right up there, chummy. Ain't
going to happen, not ever. There are consequences for people who do
the worst dirt on earth to others like that. It's called a "come-
uppance" and they're not supposed to like it. ;-)


Stick what where? What isn't going to happen again, Mr. Anti-semite?
Middle-easterners with dark skin and pointy noses are not all
terrorists.

and then
recoil in horror at insurgents operating
a hundred miles from where they were born?


By such logic as that, William Clark Quantrill and Bloody Bill
Anderson, a couple of Yankees who joined as guerillas with the
Confederacy to lay slaughter to the peaceful citizens of Lawrence,
Kansas were just good ol' boys acting perfectly within their moral
Dixie Rebel right so to do--are ya nuts?


You don't have a stinking leg to stand on, you who stagger around here
in your idiot's dream of fellow feeling for the bloodiest lot of hate-
fed dupes on earth--as if you thought you were somehow carrying on in
a tradition of the great champions of the oppressed, like Gandhi, the
self-immolating Buddhists of Saigon and ML King maybe? Are ya nuts?
You who make heros of blood drinking barbarians.


That's what you were trying to do, right? "Heros who defend their
people" was your quote.

Get a clue. These are savages whose cause can find justification only
in the heart of another savage--see the Aryan Nations, the KKK, Ralph
Nader and Rachel Corrie.


LOL
Lets see you pull the Rachel Corrie is to the KKK analogy off
somehow. Good luck.

Already did. Go back to the top, start over and pay attention this
time: You, the Aryan Nations and Rachel Corrie are all united on the
same side of this issue. You are allies, brothers and sisters in the
same cause.

Why didn't you include Ghandi in that list?

Gandhi. See? You know so little of him that you can't even get his
name spelled right. But he, when asked how the civilized world should
deal with a Palestinian ally such as Hitler, said that unfortunately,
it is one case where a return of violence for violence was
unavoidable, that for non-violence to work as a means of revolution by
passive resistance, the adversay must have a conscience, some manner
of civilized moral discernment working in him. Islam like fascism does
not provide that.


Other than ideals of extreme religious fanaticism and xenophobic
prejudice, these Shias of Iran you blubber your big, sloppy boo-hoos
for--what more do you find in their cause and culture to recommend
them--the right of every Palestinian man to return to his harem of
hooded, whipped women?


Is there some meaning in your rants? Palestinians of which religion?
Hooded and hooked to electrodes, is that your implication?

In his own ham-handed and blundering way, the President of the United
States sincerely sees what he is doing over there as purely, strictly
and absolutely an act of national self-defense. Go on, lie about it,
jump up and down and tear your shirt as you scream about oil profits
till you've got petroleum pouring from your pores, but that's just how
he and a great many Americans very clearly see it.


Yeah, clearly Iraq (if that's what you mean by "over there"), was a
serious enemy capable of threatening this super-power. Clearly
Fallujah is vital to the security of Kansas, in your world. We aren't
that stupid over here.

That's how Bush and I and many others see no distinction between Al
Qaida, the Ba'athists and the Shia, because they have all long been
allies in one thing, which is their towering joy over what happened
here on 9/11. And an alliance of hate like that is political; it's a
treaty whether signed in ink on paper or written in blood upon the
flesh of a shared ethnic or social pride. Hatred makes common cause,
in deadly conspiracy of multilateral fellow feeling.


And hatred seems to be the main trait you display in your ranting. I
pray for you, as it must not be a happy existence with such hatred in
your past.



They are all united in their hatred of the United States--and you
don't know it, but that makes them all complicit in the attack, and
therefore answerable, whether they conspire in it before or after the
fact. The hopes and dreams of all the world rulers of Islam, rode in
those jumbo jets that day, and that makes all the weak pushovers of
moderate/liberal Islam culpable.


I forgive your blatant antisemitism and scapegoating. I hope God will
do the same.

Every Palestinian pal of yours who jumped for joy on that day needs to
find out just how it felt from this end, along with every Iraqi, every
Iranian, every Afghani stooge to the Taliban, and for that dance of
joy they shared on that day, they need to be made to dance to another
tune, other than the one their muezzins yodel from the minarets, like
*Stars and Stripes Forever*, played by the U. S. Marine Corps band on
the march through their smoking streets. There may come a day when
they begin to recognize it for a pretty catchy tune--with lyrics that
ain't half bad either . . .


What a sad image, and an insult to Marines everywhere, who hope to
defend freedom and to not destroy cultures from blind hatred.

Good luck

What's the big idea of leaving this part out . . .
"Be kind to your web-footed friends,
For a duck could be somebody's mother."


Take ***** Cheney and Tom DeLay with you. This
would be their chance finally to see some
action.

Two can play that game . . .
Take Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Usama bin Laden and the Unabomber with
you.
--
Mackie
http://vignettes-mackie.blogspot.com/
"Who Did the Dahlia?"
.
User: "Kurt Ullman"

Title: Re: Bomb Iran! 27 Mar 2007 02:07:08 PM
In article <1175017818.171558.321270@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"J Seymour MacNicely" <mac_the_nice@bigstring.com> wrote:

What's the big idea of leaving this part out . . .

"Be kind to your web-footed friends,
For a duck could be somebody's mother."


Be kind to your flat-footed friends
Every Cop could be ***** Tracy's Brother
With apologies to Stan Freberg..
.




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