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User: "Jean-Paul Turcaud"
Date: 07 Feb 2004 02:04:38 PM
Object: Re: CATASTROPHIES DENIED -- and Long Forgotten
Mr Conrad
Thank you for that much appreciated reminder of the Velikovsky 's work and
all observations relative to the Alaska & Siwalik hills, at the foot of the
Himalayas, mass graves !
There are others and still more important as you may know, particularly the
Liakhov Islands or New Siberia Islands
However there are two things you should know :
The present sci000nce is underlaid by the Semite JIC Sects Creationist
beuuuliefs and Evolution is a form of Creationism indeed, which fully
satisfies the miracle-prone alleged present so-called scientists.
( or at least masquerading as such )
The fraudulent manipulation by Rabbids, Mollards & Pips it would reveal on
Humanity History if such events were accepted, would indeed topple the JIC
sects most vicious & hideous stronghold on its mind
Secondly the Darwin imbecile had not the least qualification in Geology,
and was in fact a failed medic student who intrigued to get onto the Beagle
and got in through his uncle's influence. . His only qualification was in
fact a Cambridge gained Theology PhD. His Evolution invention he has made at
his image to wit a religion with his unquestioned dogmas, high priests and
anathemas !
.... and to realise that a Country happens to have retained the name of the
***** to name one of his main town, reveals a lot on the level of conscience
& awareness of his inhabitants indeed !!!!!!!
I like to quote here some words I cherish , which fully present the Criminal
influence of the Universities on young people minds :
QUOTE
ALL DESTINY BEGINS WITH THINKING
said Percival ,
AND THINKING IS A PROCESS MOST DANGEROUS TO THE INSTITUTIONS OF
CIVILISATION, WHICH CONTROL THE MASSES BY MEANS OF SKILFUL BRAIN WASHING AND
MIND CONDITIONING METHODS
UNQUOTE
In résumé, ALL the people you are addressing yourself on sci.geo. groups
have given up thinking by themselves years ago... in fact the day they
passed the doors of those degrees-loaded zombies mass-production
Institutions, of which certainly the worse Dens are the dreadful Geology
All-Faculties-Depriving Faculties
They just end as loud speakers of their Oxford, MIT, ANU, Caltech etc
Masters !
They just end INTELLECTUAL SLAVES AND SLAVISH TO BOOST, unable to see things
which are not referenced in their goooooood booooooks !
There is no point in arguing with those poor beasts ( my apologies to the
Animal Kingdom ) , since beyond the stage of a lobotomised mental patient
!
( I am just crying in despair while writing those terrible words ! Poor
unaware & innocent youngsters whose minds are being massacred at the
present time !!! )
Personally I value very much more the intelligence of my Pyrenean shepherd
dog Horus, than the totality of the hundred of thousands frauds
masquerading as Geologists* at present !
At least my dog does not pretend to know ... while the other imbeciles do
indeed !!!
* Restriction made for the few True Geologists
( only two at the last census known in the world )
--
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australian Mining Pioneer
Hydro & Mining Prospector _ Senior Geologist
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer; Kintyre & Nifty Mines
Great Sandy Desert.of Australia
Discoverer of the South Atlantic Submarine Gold Placers
( 40 Millions Tons estimate )
Founder of the TRUE GEOLOGY
~~Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"Ed Conrad" <edconrad@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de
news:7998209t5rsb9bdscgv8pmht6puvtl4vlj@4ax.com...

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A few choice tidbits from the book, "Mankind in Amnesia,"
by the late, great Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky:

"But he (Charles Darwin) saw these animals,
their bones splintered, heaped in the strangest
assemlages -- giant sloths and mastodons together
with birds and mice.
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"He had to forget these pictures of disaster in order
to invent a theory of a peaceful earth unshaken in its
entirety . . . (but) he could not pass over it in silence
in 'Origin of Species'.
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"He wrote: 'The extinction of species has been involved
in the most gratuitous mystery . . . No one can have
marvelled more than I have done at the extinction
of the species.'
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"Darwin concluded: 'Certainly, no fact in the long history
of the world is so startling as the wide and repeated
extermination of its inhabitants'."


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Quoting Eisely, when at the University of Kansas in 1943,
quoting an observer of an awe-inspiring scene spread all
over Alaska:
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"... in certain regions of Alaska the bones of these extinct
animals lie so thickly scattered that there can be no question
of human handiwork involved.
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"Though man was on the scene of the final perishing,
his was not, then, the appetite nor the capacity for such
giant slaughter."


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Written by Alfred Russel Wallace, who simultaneously
with Darwin announced the theory of natural selection,
then in puzzlement drew the attention of the scientific world
to the Siwalik hills, at the foot of the Himalayas, their several
hundred miles of length practically packed with bones
of animals:
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"These remains were obviously heaped together in single
actions of nature . . .
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"It seems impossible to attribute the phenomenon
to the unaided efforts of man.
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" In this great carnage are myriads of animals, limb torn
from limb, in great heaps, over tens of miles, mixed with
plintered trees."


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BRAINS IN COLLUSION >

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In 1963, the editors of American Behavioral Scientist
magazine were convinced of the merits of Dr. Immanuel
Velikovsky's science -- contained in "Worlds in Collision"
and "Earth in Upheaval," published in the early 1950s --
and were aware of the mushroom cloud of denial that had
been generated from within the scientific community.
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The editors considered these events to be of major
mportance to the history of science.
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Therefore, they displayed tremendous courage by devoting
their September 1963 issue to defending Velikovsky.
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It contained three papers dealing with the Velikovsky
controversy -- by Ralph Juergens, Livio Stecchini and
publisher Alfred de Grazia, as well as a paper submitted
by Velikovsky himself.
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Three years later -- in 1966 -- this edition of American
Behavioral Scientist wound up as a hard-cover book entitled
"The Velikovsky Affair: The Warfare of Science and Scientism,"
edited by de Grazia and published by University Books Inc.,
New Hyde Park, N.Y.
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"THE VELIKOVSKY AFFAIR"
Foreward
(By Alfred de Grazia)

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In 1950, a book called Worlds in Collision, by Dr.
Immanuel Velikovsky, gave rise to a controversy in
scientific and intellectual circles about scientific
theories and the sociology of science.
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Dr. Velikovsky's historical and cosmological concepts,
bolstered by his acknowledged scholarship, constituted
a formidable assault on certain established theories
of astronomy, geology and historical biology, and on
the heroes of those sciences.
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Newton, himself, and Darwin were being challenged, and
indeed the general orthodoxy of an ordered universe.
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The substance of Velikovsky's ideas is briefly presented
in the first chapter of this book.
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What must be called the scientific establishment rose in
arms, not only against the new Velikovsky theories but
against the man himself.
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Efforts were made to block dissemination of Dr. Velikovsky's
ideas, and even to punish supporters of his investigations.
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Universities, scientific societies, publishing houses,
the popular press were approached and threatened; social
pressures and professional > sanctions were invoked
to control public opinion.

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There is no doubt that in a totalitarian society, not only
would Dr. Velikovsky's reputation have been at stake, but
also his right to pursue his inquiry, and perhaps his own
personal safety.
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As it was, the "establishment" succeeded in building a wall
of unfavorable sentiment around him: to thousands of scholars
the name of Velikovsky bears the taint of fantasy,
science-fiction and publicity.
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He could not be suppressed entirely. In the next few years
he published three more books. He carried on a large
correspondence. And he was helped by friends and by
a large general public composed of persons outside of the
establishments of science.
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The probings of spacecraft tended to confirm -- never to disprove --
his arguments.
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Eventually, the venomous aspects of the controversy,
the efforts at suppression, the campaign of vilification
loomed almost as large, in their consequences to science,
as the original issue.

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Social scientists, who had been generally aware of Dr. Velikovsky's
work, now found themselves in the thick of the conflict.
The involvement of the social and behavioral sciences in the
scientific theories of Velikovsky was higher than had been earlier
appreciated.
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The social sciences are the basis of Velikvsky's work: despite his
proficiency in the natural sciences, it is by the use of the
methodology of social science that Velikovsky launched his challenge
to accepted cosmological theories.
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No one pretends that this method is adequate. New forms of
interdisciplinary research are needed to wed, for example, the study
of myth with the study of meteorities.
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Nor does one have to agree that Velikovsky is the greatest technician
of mythology, even while granting his great conceptual and
synthesizing powers.
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Whatever the scientific substance, the controversy inself could not
be avoided or dismissed by behavioral science.
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The problem of sicence is one of the agitating problems
of the twentieth century. The issues are clear: Who determines
scientific truth: Who are its high priests, and what is their
warrant? How do they establish their canons? What effects
do they have on the freedom of inquiry, and on public interest?

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In the end, some judgment must be passed upon the behavior of the
scientific world and, if adverse, some remedies must be proposed . . .
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It is our hope that the publication of these papers in the present
volume (a revised and enlarged version) will make it less easy for
Velikovsky's new work to be suppressed, or lightly dismissed.
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We hope, too, that they will help scientists and interested laymen
everywhere to rehearse the problems and to reform the errors
of the vast enterprise of science.

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Ed Conrad

http://www.edconrad,com

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When Pseudoscience Meets Honest Science
Scientific paradigms challenged by facts and evidence

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