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05 Jul 2003 03:50:32 PM |
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Re: EARTH EXPANSION - A PREDICTION |
(don findlay) wrote in message news:<5f164087.0306140524.37928ff8@posting.google.com>...
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A PREDICTION - PLATE TECTONICS WILL EVOLVE TO EARTH EXPANSION
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CONSEQUENT FURTHER ON THE ABOVE PREDICTIONS, recognising the
rotational - gravitational imbalance of the planet from the gross
pattern of structure of the ocean floors and continental margins will
in turn lead to closer inspection of the continental interiors for
related expressions of this global imbalance.
This will be where the fun really starts as patterns of crustal
dislocation become recognised which define global-scale rollback
(boudinage) structures marking the continental extensional phase
pre-dating final detachment and the growth of the ocean floors.
Foremost recognised will be flat detachments soleing the dislocation
of Africa from the Americas and culminating in mantle breakthrough
of the Atlantic,
<http://users.indigo.net.au/don/ee/predict1.html>
and detachments in the Middle East between Africa and Eurasia which
culminated in Pacific breakthrough.
The pattern of these intraformational dislocations will initally be
interpreted as reflecting a broad transition from a latitudinally
dominant disturbance of the crust to one of longitudinal disturbance,
reflecting the attainment of a critical radius in the Earth's growth.
Some adjustment in the geological time scale related to these
deformations will be necessary, foremost of which will require
replacing models of thermal cooling of ocean floors with models of
isostatic adjustment. This will really set the cat amongst the
pigeons as it is realised, not only that the time scales are
substantially out, but also that the growth of the ocean floors
represents only the very latest time-slice of continental extension,
and that the Earth was substantially smaller than even that achieved
by simple edge-to-edge retrofitting of the continental landmasses.
In order to claim territory on the back of these groundbreaking
advances, revisionist elements amongst the institutionalised may even
attempt to confirm previous landmark discoveries of MEN AS OLD AS
COAL,
<http://groups.google.com.au/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=sci.geo.geology&selm=3f05d083.73021443%40news.shenhgts.net>
thus opening up a whole new area of reasearch the like of which will
not have been seen since the emergence of PLATE TECTONICS AS THE NEW
GLOBAL PARADIGM. The general consensus that scientific exploration
is indeed paved with surprises will be consolidated by requests by the
academic community for vast sums of money to be injected into studying
this linkage. This, and similar groundbreaking advances in the Earth
Sciences will be couched in as much jargon as possible by elements
chronically myopic in matters of science but far-sighted indeed in
regard to self-interest as they extoll the virtues of scientific
method to prove what to any layman has, through plain common sense,
been clear all along - that the Earth is bigger than it used to be,
by the amount of the ocean floors. And getting bigger by the
toenail.
df.
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| User: "don findlay" |
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| Title: Re: EARTH EXPANSION - A PREDICTION |
18 Jul 2003 09:37:07 PM |
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(don findlay) wrote in message news:<5f164087.0307051250.2298ddf7@posting.google.com>...
(don findlay) wrote in message news:<5f164087.0306140524.37928ff8@posting.google.com>...
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A PREDICTION - PLATE TECTONICS WILL EVOLVE TO EARTH EXPANSION
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Further drubbing of plate tectonic dogma will be the concession from
Platies that the global structures of intracrustal torsional
dislocations predating continental severance represent the break-up of
a single plate, namely the Pangaean crust, and not a collage of plates
on convection cells wheeching about like ***** 'na fan. The elegance
of the sedate, extroverted, global torsional architecture thus
defined will excite Pteros to mass conversion, to the extent that, not
only will MEN AS OLD AS COAL attract serious attention as intimated in
the previous post, as the institutionalised struggle with revision of
geological time scales, but the DOYEN of living, fossiliferous fame
-"THE BEASTIE" - NESSIE HERSELF, will be extolled by real scientists
as final proof of the telescoped linkage of the present to its
fossiliferous past.
<http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/16-7-19103-0-13-18.html>
Such a transition however will not be without calamity as Loch Ness
becomes the Mecca of the converted, and the weakest of true believers
are trampled and drowned in the stampede hemmed in by the steep hills
leading to the site itself, and others frazzled in a frenzy of
confusion of scientific/ cultural mores as the New Paradigm is
celebrated in an orgy of kilt-swinging, whisky drinking and caber
tossing. The upside however, will be that Mad Platie Disease will
finally be expunged, and the spectre of the Great Glen as a subduction
zone closing an Iapetus Ocean,
<http://users.indigo.net.au/don/ee/great_glen_fault_query.html>
....vanquished, resulting in still more KS, WD and CT - and
consequently even more Platie deaths for Beastie-fodder.
df.
(Ooch-Aye, the Noo!)
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| User: "George" |
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19 Jul 2003 08:49:26 AM |
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"don findlay" <don@tower.net.au> wrote in message
news:5f164087.0307181837.26ee4e36@posting.google.com...
don@tower.net.au (don findlay) wrote in message
news:<5f164087.0307051250.2298ddf7@posting.google.com>...
don@tower.net.au (don findlay) wrote in message
news:<5f164087.0306140524.37928ff8@posting.google.com>...
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A PREDICTION - PLATE TECTONICS WILL EVOLVE TO EARTH EXPANSION
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Further drubbing of plate tectonic dogma will be the concession from
Platies that the global structures of intracrustal torsional
dislocations predating continental severance represent the break-up of
a single plate, namely the Pangaean crust, and not a collage of plates
on convection cells wheeching about like ***** 'na fan. The elegance
of the sedate, extroverted, global torsional architecture thus
defined will excite Pteros to mass conversion, to the extent that, not
only will MEN AS OLD AS COAL attract serious attention as intimated in
the previous post, as the institutionalised struggle with revision of
geological time scales, but the DOYEN of living, fossiliferous fame
-"THE BEASTIE" - NESSIE HERSELF, will be extolled by real scientists
as final proof of the telescoped linkage of the present to its
fossiliferous past.
<http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/16-7-19103-0-13-18.html>
Such a transition however will not be without calamity as Loch Ness
becomes the Mecca of the converted, and the weakest of true believers
are trampled and drowned in the stampede hemmed in by the steep hills
leading to the site itself, and others frazzled in a frenzy of
confusion of scientific/ cultural mores as the New Paradigm is
celebrated in an orgy of kilt-swinging, whisky drinking and caber
tossing. The upside however, will be that Mad Platie Disease will
finally be expunged, and the spectre of the Great Glen as a subduction
zone closing an Iapetus Ocean,
<http://users.indigo.net.au/don/ee/great_glen_fault_query.html>
...vanquished, resulting in still more KS, WD and CT - and
consequently even more Platie deaths for Beastie-fodder.
df.
(Ooch-Aye, the Noo!)
Fractious and blithering, as usual.
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| User: "{#] Mining Pioneer" |
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19 Jul 2003 12:32:34 PM |
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Talking to yourself again George ?
That must be that Kentucky Fried chicken brain of yours playing tricks !
Both hemispheres, North and South that is, look like being sizzled indeed !
No wonder if the mere concept of Earth Expansion is beyond your grasp ?
You haven't as yet understood the origin of coal being anything but due
organic reduction of Carbon ? Correct ?
You still support the Continental Rafting model ? ... as well as the
Glaciations Haggardsis Tales ?
....+ another good hundred of Gogological infamies ?
See what I mean ?
Just take a nap George ! ... and leave my friend the celebrated Australian
scientist Sir Don Finlay alone !
You are just no match !
Thanks jp
~~Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"George" <george@sourpudding.net> a écrit dans le message de
news:ARbSa.2145$wv6.1573@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com...
Fractious and blithering, as usual.
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| User: "George" |
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19 Jul 2003 04:09:13 PM |
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"{#] Mining Pioneer" <roughtough@coolgardie.net.au> wrote in message
news:3f1980b7$0$9622$7a628cd7@news.club-internet.fr...
Talking to yourself again George ?
That must be that Kentucky Fried chicken brain of yours playing tricks !
Both hemispheres, North and South that is, look like being sizzled indeed
!
No wonder if the mere concept of Earth Expansion is beyond your grasp ?
You haven't as yet understood the origin of coal being anything but due
organic reduction of Carbon ? Correct ?
You still support the Continental Rafting model ? ... as well as the
Glaciations Haggardsis Tales ?
...+ another good hundred of Gogological infamies ?
See what I mean ?
Just take a nap George ! ... and leave my friend the celebrated
Australian
scientist Sir Don Finlay alone !
You are just no match !
Thanks jp
You really should take your meds more often, JP.
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| User: "Der Coach" |
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20 Jul 2003 12:34:19 PM |
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George wrote:
You really should take your meds more often, JP.
Subscribe!
DC
--
"Even Jean-Paul Turcaud e-mailed me to say that he sees nothing that I have
posted
which he wishes to respond to."
--Ed Augusts. Google ID# <20020617134752.02548.00000755@mb-fw.aol.com>
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| User: "David Ford" |
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05 Jul 2003 08:46:40 PM |
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don findlay wrote:
don@tower.net.au (don findlay) wrote in message news:<5f164087.0306140524.37928ff8@posting.google.com>...
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
A PREDICTION - PLATE TECTONICS WILL EVOLVE TO EARTH EXPANSION
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CONSEQUENT FURTHER ON THE ABOVE PREDICTIONS, recognising the
rotational - gravitational imbalance of the planet from the gross
pattern of structure of the ocean floors and continental margins will
in turn lead to closer inspection of the continental interiors for
related expressions of this global imbalance.
This will be where the fun really starts as patterns of crustal
dislocation become recognised which define global-scale rollback
(boudinage) structures marking the continental extensional phase
pre-dating final detachment and the growth of the ocean floors.
Foremost recognised will be flat detachments soleing the dislocation
of Africa from the Americas and culminating in mantle breakthrough
of the Atlantic,
<http://users.indigo.net.au/don/ee/predict1.html>
and detachments in the Middle East between Africa and Eurasia which
culminated in Pacific breakthrough.
The pattern of these intraformational dislocations will initally be
interpreted as reflecting a broad transition from a latitudinally
dominant disturbance of the crust to one of longitudinal disturbance,
reflecting the attainment of a critical radius in the Earth's growth.
Some adjustment in the geological time scale related to these
deformations will be necessary, foremost of which will require
replacing models of thermal cooling of ocean floors with models of
isostatic adjustment. This will really set the cat amongst the
pigeons as it is realised, not only that the time scales are
substantially out, but also that the growth of the ocean floors
represents only the very latest time-slice of continental extension,
and that the Earth was substantially smaller than even that achieved
by simple edge-to-edge retrofitting of the continental landmasses.
In order to claim territory on the back of these groundbreaking
advances, revisionist elements amongst the institutionalised may even
attempt to confirm previous landmark discoveries of MEN AS OLD AS
COAL,
<http://groups.google.com.au/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=sci.geo.geology&selm=3f05d083.73021443%40news.shenhgts.net>
thus opening up a whole new area of reasearch the like of which will
not have been seen since
David Ford: !!! ... You've got to be kidding Don? ... you can't possibly
be serious ...
the emergence of PLATE TECTONICS AS THE NEW
GLOBAL PARADIGM. The general consensus that scientific exploration
is indeed paved with surprises will be consolidated by requests by the
academic community for vast sums of money to be injected into studying
this linkage. This, and similar groundbreaking advances in the Earth
Sciences will be couched in as much jargon as possible by elements
chronically myopic in matters of science but far-sighted indeed in
regard to self-interest as they extoll the virtues of scientific
method to prove what to any layman has, through plain common sense,
been clear all along - that the Earth is bigger than it used to be,
by the amount of the ocean floors. And getting bigger by the
toenail.
df.
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| User: "John Sefton" |
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| Title: Re: EARTH EXPANSION - A PREDICTION |
05 Jul 2003 10:04:04 PM |
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David Ford wrote:
don findlay wrote:
don@tower.net.au (don findlay) wrote in message
news:<5f164087.0306140524.37928ff8@posting.google.com>...
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
A PREDICTION - PLATE TECTONICS WILL EVOLVE TO EARTH EXPANSION
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CONSEQUENT FURTHER ON THE ABOVE PREDICTIONS, recognising the
rotational - gravitational imbalance of the planet from the gross
pattern of structure of the ocean floors and continental margins will
in turn lead to closer inspection of the continental interiors for
related expressions of this global imbalance.
This will be where the fun really starts as patterns of crustal
dislocation become recognised which define global-scale rollback
(boudinage) structures marking the continental extensional phase
pre-dating final detachment and the growth of the ocean floors.
Foremost recognised will be flat detachments soleing the dislocation
of Africa from the Americas and culminating in mantle breakthrough
of the Atlantic,
<http://users.indigo.net.au/don/ee/predict1.html>
and detachments in the Middle East between Africa and Eurasia which
culminated in Pacific breakthrough.
The pattern of these intraformational dislocations will initally be
interpreted as reflecting a broad transition from a latitudinally
dominant disturbance of the crust to one of longitudinal disturbance,
reflecting the attainment of a critical radius in the Earth's growth.
Some adjustment in the geological time scale related to these
deformations will be necessary, foremost of which will require
replacing models of thermal cooling of ocean floors with models of
isostatic adjustment. This will really set the cat amongst the
pigeons as it is realised, not only that the time scales are
substantially out, but also that the growth of the ocean floors
represents only the very latest time-slice of continental extension,
and that the Earth was substantially smaller than even that achieved
by simple edge-to-edge retrofitting of the continental landmasses.
In order to claim territory on the back of these groundbreaking
advances, revisionist elements amongst the institutionalised may even
attempt to confirm previous landmark discoveries of MEN AS OLD AS
COAL,
<http://groups.google.com.au/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=sci.geo.geology&selm=3f05d083.73021443%40news.shenhgts.net>
thus opening up a whole new area of reasearch the like of which will
not have been seen since
David Ford: !!! ... You've got to be kidding Don? ... you can't possibly
be serious ...
the emergence of PLATE TECTONICS AS THE NEW
GLOBAL PARADIGM. The general consensus that scientific exploration
is indeed paved with surprises will be consolidated by requests by the
academic community for vast sums of money to be injected into studying
this linkage. This, and similar groundbreaking advances in the Earth
Sciences will be couched in as much jargon as possible by elements
chronically myopic in matters of science but far-sighted indeed in
regard to self-interest as they extoll the virtues of scientific
method to prove what to any layman has, through plain common sense,
been clear all along - that the Earth is bigger than it used to be,
by the amount of the ocean floors. And getting bigger by the
toenail.
df.
Well, look at the size of the lizards that
used to bounce around on it.
Look at 14 species of elephant the 12 largest
of which are.........extinct.
Look at the Do Do; look at skeletons of
birds found twice as large
as our present largest birds.
T. Rex could not raise his head today let alone
get up on two feet.
John
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| User: "David Ford" |
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05 Jul 2003 10:05:38 PM |
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John Sefton wrote:
David Ford wrote:
don findlay wrote:
don@tower.net.au (don findlay) wrote in message
news:<5f164087.0306140524.37928ff8@posting.google.com>...
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
A PREDICTION - PLATE TECTONICS WILL EVOLVE TO EARTH EXPANSION
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CONSEQUENT FURTHER ON THE ABOVE PREDICTIONS, recognising the
rotational - gravitational imbalance of the planet from the gross
pattern of structure of the ocean floors and continental margins will
in turn lead to closer inspection of the continental interiors for
related expressions of this global imbalance.
This will be where the fun really starts as patterns of crustal
dislocation become recognised which define global-scale rollback
(boudinage) structures marking the continental extensional phase
pre-dating final detachment and the growth of the ocean floors.
Foremost recognised will be flat detachments soleing the dislocation
of Africa from the Americas and culminating in mantle breakthrough
of the Atlantic,
<http://users.indigo.net.au/don/ee/predict1.html>
and detachments in the Middle East between Africa and Eurasia which
culminated in Pacific breakthrough.
The pattern of these intraformational dislocations will initally be
interpreted as reflecting a broad transition from a latitudinally
dominant disturbance of the crust to one of longitudinal disturbance,
reflecting the attainment of a critical radius in the Earth's
growth. Some adjustment in the geological time scale related to these
deformations will be necessary, foremost of which will require
replacing models of thermal cooling of ocean floors with models of
isostatic adjustment. This will really set the cat amongst the
pigeons as it is realised, not only that the time scales are
substantially out, but also that the growth of the ocean floors
represents only the very latest time-slice of continental extension,
and that the Earth was substantially smaller than even that achieved
by simple edge-to-edge retrofitting of the continental landmasses.
In order to claim territory on the back of these groundbreaking
advances, revisionist elements amongst the institutionalised may even
attempt to confirm previous landmark discoveries of MEN AS OLD AS
COAL,
<http://groups.google.com.au/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=sci.geo.geology&selm=3f05d083.73021443%40news.shenhgts.net>
thus opening up a whole new area of reasearch the like of which will
not have been seen since
David Ford: !!! ... You've got to be kidding Don? ... you can't
possibly be serious ...
the emergence of PLATE TECTONICS AS THE NEW
GLOBAL PARADIGM. The general consensus that scientific exploration
is indeed paved with surprises will be consolidated by requests by the
academic community for vast sums of money to be injected into studying
this linkage. This, and similar groundbreaking advances in the Earth
Sciences will be couched in as much jargon as possible by elements
chronically myopic in matters of science but far-sighted indeed in
regard to self-interest as they extoll the virtues of scientific
method to prove what to any layman has, through plain common sense,
been clear all along - that the Earth is bigger than it used to be,
by the amount of the ocean floors. And getting bigger by the
toenail.
df.
Well, look at the size of the lizards that
used to bounce around on it.
Look at 14 species of elephant the 12 largest
of which are.........extinct.
Look at the Do Do; look at skeletons of
birds found twice as large
as our present largest birds.
T. Rex could not raise his head today let alone
get up on two feet.
John
David Ford: What does that have to do with anything? (... Ka-Ka Do-Do
is not really a good selling point ...).
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| User: "DarkMatter" |
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05 Jul 2003 10:05:38 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 21:04:04 -0600, John Sefton <vegan1@accesscomm.ca>
Gave us:
Well, look at the size of the lizards that
used to bounce around on it.
Look at 14 species of elephant the 12 largest
of which are.........extinct.
Look at the Do Do; look at skeletons of
birds found twice as large
as our present largest birds.
T. Rex could not raise his head today let alone
get up on two feet.
100% due to a differential in atmospheric oxygen content.
If it were still 35%, we could hold our breath for five minutes
easily.
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| User: "David Ford" |
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06 Jul 2003 01:43:49 AM |
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DarkMatter wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 21:04:04 -0600, John Sefton <vegan1@accesscomm.ca>
Gave us:
=20
Well, look at the size of the lizards that
used to bounce around on it.
Look at 14 species of elephant the 12 largest
of which are.........extinct.
Look at the Do Do; look at skeletons of
birds found twice as large
as our present largest birds.
T. Rex could not raise his head today let alone
get up on two feet.
=20
100% due to a differential in atmospheric oxygen content.
If it were still 35%, we could hold our breath for five minutes
easily.
David Ford: ... nah! ... have you ever considered how such an oxygen=20
concentration would affect the planet; it would mean that any fire=20
started, due to lightning strikes etc., would burn the entire vegetated=20
Earth surface =85 probably in a matter of hours or days. i.e., the Earth =
would be quite literally explosive and subsequently uninhabitable. (And=20
if oxygen were so abundant, then why are deposited marine sediments from =
the period often anoxic?) That whole way of thinking is clearly wrong.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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23 Jul 2003 12:40:11 AM |
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DarkMatter wrote:
I was told/taught that the oxygen content in the dinosaur period, 65
million years go was much higher, and that the yucatan meteor strike
was what did essentially what you said. It was responsible for the
near full extinction of the larger beasts, and the "K-T Layer" as it
defines the line between to periods. The Cretaceous period had more
oxygen, IIRC.
Ref: http://www.eeb.uconn.edu/Courses/Eeb477/Dudley_98.pdf
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2212doom.html
The rise in (and subsequent decline) of oxygen is spread over
a hundred million years, where as the mass extinction at the
Cretaceous Tertiary boundary was quick in geological time.
There is little doubt that an asteroid impact was the
triggering mechanism for the mass extiction.
DAVID RAUP: The environmental shock produced by a
large comet or asteroid impact certainly is a good
candidate, because it simply, if nothing else, because of
the energy levels, the debris which would go out from
the impact point at ballistic velocities, affect all
hemispheres at the same -- essentially, the same time. As
to the particular scenarios, I don't think we know
enough yet to know whether it was darkness or increase
or decrease in temperature. What the killing mechanism
actually was is still elusive.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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23 Jul 2003 12:41:31 AM |
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DarkMatter wrote:
I was told/taught that the oxygen content in the dinosaur period, 65
million years go was much higher, and that the yucatan meteor strike
was what did essentially what you said. It was responsible for the
near full extinction of the larger beasts, and the "K-T Layer" as it
defines the line between to periods. The Cretaceous period had more
oxygen, IIRC.
Ref: http://www.eeb.uconn.edu/Courses/Eeb477/Dudley_98.pdf
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2212doom.html
The rise in (and subsequent decline) of oxygen is spread over
a hundred million years, where as the mass extinction at the
Cretaceous Tertiary boundary was quick in geological time.
There is little doubt that an asteroid impact was the
triggering mechanism for the mass extinction.
DAVID RAUP: The environmental shock produced by a
large comet or asteroid impact certainly is a good
candidate, because it simply, if nothing else, because of
the energy levels, the debris which would go out from
the impact point at ballistic velocities, affect all
hemispheres at the same -- essentially, the same time. As
to the particular scenarios, I don't think we know
enough yet to know whether it was darkness or increase
or decrease in temperature. What the killing mechanism
actually was is still elusive.
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| User: "Ralph Nesbitt" |
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23 Jul 2003 09:22:03 PM |
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"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:fncuhvss303n49u028i9p3c91the7umaq1@4ax.com...
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:04:37 GMT, David Ford <david.ford2@bigpond.com>
Gave us:
David Ford: How about we forget all the melodramatic catastrophe
hyperbole about exploding comets etc., any ordinary bushfire started by
any ordinary lightening strike, would cause any forest to veritably
explode into flames at such substantially elevated atmospheric oxygen
concentrations, i.e., it would trigger a regional firestorm, which could
burn out an entire continent in fairly short order. In other
words--let's keep it real.
Now, I know it's true. You're an idiot.
Nature has a tendency to balance out so various things can co-exist. If my
understanding is correct that majority of the earth was covered by
"Tropical/Semi-Tropical rain forests during the time in ?, resulting in
things being significantly wetter than they are now.
The make up of the Fauna was significantly different, being primarily any of
numerous species of "Ferns". Ferns, even those of today are a "High %
Water". The "Fire Storm Forest Fires" of today occur in Fauna that have High
"Rosin or Oil contents.
The flammability characteristics of the 2 distinctly different types of
Fauna, irrespective of prevailing Oxygen concentrations, is significantly
different. If the Rosin/Oil saturated Fauna had been prevalent at the times
in ?. I would not disagree with your assumption regarding the possibility of
"Continent Wide Fire Storms on a frequent basis because of "Higher
Atmospheric Oxygen Concentrations".
Ralph Nesbitt
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"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 02:22:03 GMT, "Ralph Nesbitt"
<ralph-nesbitt@sbcglobal.net> Gave us:
The flammability characteristics of the 2 distinctly different types of
Fauna, irrespective of prevailing Oxygen concentrations, is significantly
different. If the Rosin/Oil saturated Fauna had been prevalent at the
times
in ?. I would not disagree with your assumption regarding the possibility
of
"Continent Wide Fire Storms on a frequent basis because of "Higher
Atmospheric Oxygen Concentrations".
Ralph Nesbitt
It wasn't MY assumption, dipshit. You need to learn to READ the
posts you graze over a bit better. That was another person that said
that tide bit.
To the SGE Group.
"Tirades" like that above serves no useful purpose to expand/share the
"Geological Knowledge Base" IMHO. I will respond to anyone who wishes to
discuss/expand/share the Geological Knowledge, but not "Tirades", such as
the above example.
Ralph Nesbitt
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:16:59 GMT, "Ralph Nesbitt"
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It wasn't MY assumption, dipshit. You need to learn to READ the
posts you graze over a bit better. That was another person that said
that tide bit.
To the SGE Group.
"Tirades" like that above serves no useful purpose to expand/share the
"Geological Knowledge Base" IMHO. I will respond to anyone who wishes to
discuss/expand/share the Geological Knowledge, but not "Tirades", such as
the above example.
Ralph Nesbitt
Then learn HOW to READ and then HOW to POST, you retarded TWIT!
You quote me as saying WHATEVER, but YOU were wrong, jackass!
I never said it. YOU are the "tirade" here. All I did was tell
your LAME ***** to learn to read, and quote properly.
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Ralph Nesbitt wrote:
"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:04:37 GMT, David Ford <david.ford2@bigpond.com>
Gave us:
David Ford: How about we forget all the melodramatic catastrophe
hyperbole about exploding comets etc., any ordinary bushfire started by
any ordinary lightening strike, would cause any forest to veritably
explode into flames at such substantially elevated atmospheric oxygen
concentrations, i.e., it would trigger a regional firestorm, which could
burn out an entire continent in fairly short order. In other
words--let's keep it real.
Now, I know it's true. You're an idiot.
Nature has a tendency to balance out so various things can co-exist. If my
understanding is correct that majority of the earth was covered by
"Tropical/Semi-Tropical rain forests during the time in ?, resulting in
things being significantly wetter than they are now.
The make up of the Fauna was significantly different, being primarily any of
numerous species of "Ferns". Ferns, even those of today are a "High %
Water". The "Fire Storm Forest Fires" of today occur in Fauna that have High
"Rosin or Oil contents.
The flammability characteristics of the 2 distinctly different types of
Fauna, irrespective of prevailing Oxygen concentrations, is significantly
different. If the Rosin/Oil saturated Fauna had been prevalent at the times
in ?. I would not disagree with your assumption regarding the possibility of
"Continent Wide Fire Storms on a frequent basis because of "Higher
Atmospheric Oxygen Concentrations".
Ralph Nesbitt
David Ford: Thank you Ralph, you apparently had no trouble following
the very simple logical thing I was pointing out. (don't know what the
problem is with Mr 'darkmatter' and co.)
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:48:45 GMT, David Ford <david.ford2@bigpond.com>
Gave us:
David Ford: Thank you Ralph, you apparently had no trouble following
the very simple logical thing I was pointing out. (don't know what the
problem is with Mr 'darkmatter' and co.)
*****! THAT is NOT what you said AT ALL.
You said it would all burn. RALPH said that it certainly would NOT.
Get yourself some reading comprehension skills, there boy.
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David Ford wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
DarkMatter wrote:
I was told/taught that the oxygen content in the dinosaur period, 65
million years go was much higher, and that the yucatan meteor strike
was what did essentially what you said. It was responsible for the
near full extinction of the larger beasts, and the "K-T Layer" as it
defines the line between to periods. The Cretaceous period had more
oxygen, IIRC.
Ref: http://www.eeb.uconn.edu/Courses/Eeb477/Dudley_98.pdf
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2212doom.html
The rise in (and subsequent decline) of oxygen is spread over
a hundred million years, where as the mass extinction at the
Cretaceous Tertiary boundary was quick in geological time.
There is little doubt that an asteroid impact was the
triggering mechanism for the mass extinction.
DAVID RAUP: The environmental shock produced by a
large comet or asteroid impact certainly is a good
candidate, because it simply, if nothing else, because of
the energy levels, the debris which would go out from
the impact point at ballistic velocities, affect all
hemispheres at the same -- essentially, the same time. As
to the particular scenarios, I don't think we know
enough yet to know whether it was darkness or increase
or decrease in temperature. What the killing mechanism
actually was is still elusive.
David Ford: How about we forget all the melodramatic catastrophe
hyperbole about exploding comets etc., any ordinary bushfire started by
any ordinary lightening strike, would cause any forest to veritably
explode into flames at such substantially elevated atmospheric oxygen
concentrations, i.e., it would trigger a regional firestorm, which could
burn out an entire continent in fairly short order. In other
words--let's keep it real.
According to your scenario and if we are to trust the [Dudley] oxygen data,
the Earth would have gone through tens of millions of years of "regional
firestorms". Reality is based on empirical data... please cite yours, David.
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24 Jul 2003 11:25:37 PM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
David Ford wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
David Ford wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
DarkMatter wrote:
I was told/taught that the oxygen content in the dinosaur period, 65
million years go was much higher, and that the yucatan meteor strike
was what did essentially what you said. It was responsible for the
near full extinction of the larger beasts, and the "K-T Layer" as it
defines the line between to periods. The Cretaceous period had more
oxygen, IIRC.
Ref: http://www.eeb.uconn.edu/Courses/Eeb477/Dudley_98.pdf
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2212doom.html
The rise in (and subsequent decline) of oxygen is spread over
a hundred million years, where as the mass extinction at the
Cretaceous Tertiary boundary was quick in geological time.
There is little doubt that an asteroid impact was the
triggering mechanism for the mass extinction.
DAVID RAUP: The environmental shock produced by a
large comet or asteroid impact certainly is a good
candidate, because it simply, if nothing else, because of
the energy levels, the debris which would go out from
the impact point at ballistic velocities, affect all
hemispheres at the same -- essentially, the same time. As
to the particular scenarios, I don't think we know
enough yet to know whether it was darkness or increase
or decrease in temperature. What the killing mechanism
actually was is still elusive.
David Ford: How about we forget all the melodramatic catastrophe
hyperbole about exploding comets etc., any ordinary bushfire started by
any ordinary lightening strike, would cause any forest to veritably
explode into flames at such substantially elevated atmospheric oxygen
concentrations, i.e., it would trigger a regional firestorm, which could
burn out an entire continent in fairly short order. In other
words--let's keep it real.
According to your scenario and if we are to trust the [Dudley] oxygen data,
the Earth would have gone through tens of millions of years of "regional
firestorms". Reality is based on empirical data... please cite yours, David.
David Ford: What are you saying? It's not my 'scenario' at all; quite
the reverse! What I've logically pointed out is that oxygen obviously
was not at the theorised elevations proposed for the enhanced metabolic
rates of dinosaurs--as was originally proposed, and to which I
originally responded. (I don't know what you're talking of though?)
My mistake--misread what you were saying. Thanks.
-Sam
David Ford: No problem Sam.
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23 Jul 2003 10:25:05 AM |
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nightbat wrote
Sam Wormley wrote:
David Ford wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
DarkMatter wrote:
I was told/taught that the oxygen content in the dinosaur period, 65
million years go was much higher, and that the yucatan meteor strike
was what did essentially what you said. It was responsible for the
near full extinction of the larger beasts, and the "K-T Layer" as it
defines the line between to periods. The Cretaceous period had more
oxygen, IIRC.
Ref: http://www.eeb.uconn.edu/Courses/Eeb477/Dudley_98.pdf
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2212doom.html
The rise in (and subsequent decline) of oxygen is spread over
a hundred million years, where as the mass extinction at the
Cretaceous Tertiary boundary was quick in geological time.
There is little doubt that an asteroid impact was the
triggering mechanism for the mass extinction.
DAVID RAUP: The environmental shock produced by a
large comet or asteroid impact certainly is a good
candidate, because it simply, if nothing else, because of
the energy levels, the debris which would go out from
the impact point at ballistic velocities, affect all
hemispheres at the same -- essentially, the same time. As
to the particular scenarios, I don't think we know
enough yet to know whether it was darkness or increase
or decrease in temperature. What the killing mechanism
actually was is still elusive.
David Ford: How about we forget all the melodramatic catastrophe
hyperbole about exploding comets etc., any ordinary bushfire started by
any ordinary lightening strike, would cause any forest to veritably
explode into flames at such substantially elevated atmospheric oxygen
concentrations, i.e., it would trigger a regional firestorm, which could
burn out an entire continent in fairly short order. In other
words--let's keep it real.
According to your scenario and if we are to trust the [Dudley] oxygen data,
the Earth would have gone through tens of millions of years of "regional
firestorms". Reality is based on empirical data... please cite yours, David.
nightbat
Sam, the idea of fire roasting marshmallows had to come from
somewhere. The idea of subjecting a sweet powdered core to flames then
lapping up the remains came from someplace. The empirical data but not
the effect was lost in all the fun of the roasting no doubt. The fact
that we and much biological life are still around and that the main
original Earth hit asteroid presenting theory fellow rescinded his base
premise of total world life ending effects, says much.
The end event for the Dinos was selective and catastrophic to them not
us. That asteroids have hit Earth for the millenniums of time didn't
stop us nor the Dinos who got much larger on those good times. No, it
was a much more catastrophic event, the loss of Earth's second sun per
nightbat's model scribbles. The planet Jupiter presently is the best
candidate because of its present condition and now failed stellar
ignition state.
Clue: How much of an world wide environment change would occur to the
food green leaf trees, grasses, vegetable, and fruit chain to go from
90% double sun shine to a single solar seasonal one? Would buried Dino
large eggs hatch or be effected in seasonally and long night dropping
temp soil or sands? Would Dinos know how to deal for long with snow and
ice? Why are they finding Dino bones in very cold places like Greenland,
and Canada? Why are there evolved annual as well as perennial plant
species? If there is still tropics, and 24 hrs. of daylight sometimes at
the poles, why wasn't it enough to keep the large Dinos alive? Why did
Dinos need solar protective shields? Answer: Two suns were better then
one for them.
the nightbat
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We lost our second sun? Just a minute and I'll check.
nightbat wrote:
nightbat wrote
Sam Wormley wrote:
David Ford wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
DarkMatter wrote:
I was told/taught that the oxygen content in the dinosaur period, 65
million years go was much higher, and that the yucatan meteor strike
was what did essentially what you said. It was responsible for the
near full extinction of the larger beasts, and the "K-T Layer" as it
defines the line between to periods. The Cretaceous period had more
oxygen, IIRC.
Ref: http://www.eeb.uconn.edu/Courses/Eeb477/Dudley_98.pdf
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2212doom.html
The rise in (and subsequent decline) of oxygen is spread over
a hundred million years, where as the mass extinction at the
Cretaceous Tertiary boundary was quick in geological time.
There is little doubt that an asteroid impact was the
triggering mechanism for the mass extinction.
DAVID RAUP: The environmental shock produced by a
large comet or asteroid impact certainly is a good
candidate, because it simply, if nothing else, because of
the energy levels, the debris which would go out from
the impact point at ballistic velocities, affect all
hemispheres at the same -- essentially, the same time. As
to the particular scenarios, I don't think we know
enough yet to know whether it was darkness or increase
or decrease in temperature. What the killing mechanism
actually was is still elusive.
David Ford: How about we forget all the melodramatic catastrophe
hyperbole about exploding comets etc., any ordinary bushfire started by
any ordinary lightening strike, would cause any forest to veritably
explode into flames at such substantially elevated atmospheric oxygen
concentrations, i.e., it would trigger a regional firestorm, which could
burn out an entire continent in fairly short order. In other
words--let's keep it real.
According to your scenario and if we are to trust the [Dudley] oxygen data,
the Earth would have gone through tens of millions of years of "regional
firestorms". Reality is based on empirical data... please cite yours, David.
nightbat
Sam, the idea of fire roasting marshmallows had to come from
somewhere. The idea of subjecting a sweet powdered core to flames then
lapping up the remains came from someplace. The empirical data but not
the effect was lost in all the fun of the roasting no doubt. The fact
that we and much biological life are still around and that the main
original Earth hit asteroid presenting theory fellow rescinded his base
premise of total world life ending effects, says much.
The end event for the Dinos was selective and catastrophic to them not
us. That asteroids have hit Earth for the millenniums of time didn't
stop us nor the Dinos who got much larger on those good times. No, it
was a much more catastrophic event, the loss of Earth's second sun per
nightbat's model scribbles. The planet Jupiter presently is the best
candidate because of its present condition and now failed stellar
ignition state.
Clue: How much of an world wide environment change would occur to the
food green leaf trees, grasses, vegetable, and fruit chain to go from
90% double sun shine to a single solar seasonal one? Would buried Dino
large eggs hatch or be effected in seasonally and long night dropping
temp soil or sands? Would Dinos know how to deal for long with snow and
ice? Why are they finding Dino bones in very cold places like Greenland,
and Canada? Why are there evolved annual as well as perennial plant
species? If there is still tropics, and 24 hrs. of daylight sometimes at
the poles, why wasn't it enough to keep the large Dinos alive? Why did
Dinos need solar protective shields? Answer: Two suns were better then
one for them.
the nightbat
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We lost our second sun? Just a minute and I'll check.<br>
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nightbat wrote:<br>
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Sam Wormley wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I was told/taught that the oxygen content in the dinosaur period, 65
million years go was much higher, and that the yucatan meteor strike
was what did essentially what you said. It was responsible for the
near full extinction of the larger beasts, and the "K-T Layer" as it
defines the line between to periods. The Cretaceous period had more
oxygen, IIRC.
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<pre wrap="">Ref: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.eeb.uconn.edu/Courses/Eeb477/Dudley_98.pdf">http://www.eeb.uconn.edu/Courses/Eeb477/Dudley_98.pdf</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2212doom.html">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2212doom.html</a>
The rise in (and subsequent decline) of oxygen is spread over
a hundred million years, where as the mass extinction at the
Cretaceous Tertiary boundary was quick in geological time.
There is little doubt that an asteroid impact was the
triggering mechanism for the mass extinction.
DAVID RAUP: The environmental shock produced by a
large comet or asteroid impact certainly is a good
candidate, because it simply, if nothing else, because of
the energy levels, the debris which would go out from
the impact point at ballistic velocities, affect all
hemispheres at the same -- essentially, the same time. As
to the particular scenarios, I don't think we know
enough yet to know whether it was darkness or increase
or decrease in temperature. What the killing mechanism
actually was is still elusive.
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">David Ford: How about we forget all the melodramatic catastrophe
hyperbole about exploding comets etc., any ordinary bushfire started by
any ordinary lightening strike, would cause any forest to veritably
explode into flames at such substantially elevated atmospheric oxygen
concentrations, i.e., it would trigger a regional firestorm, which could
burn out an entire continent in fairly short order. In other
words--let's keep it real.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">According to your scenario and if we are to trust the [Dudley] oxygen data,
the Earth would have gone through tens of millions of years of "regional
firestorms". Reality is based on empirical data... please cite yours, David.
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nightbat
Sam, the idea of fire roasting marshmallows had to come from
somewhere. The idea of subjecting a sweet powdered core to flames then
lapping up the remains came from someplace. The empirical data but not
the effect was lost in all the fun of the roasting no doubt. The fact
that we and much biological life are still around and that the main
original Earth hit asteroid presenting theory fellow rescinded his base
premise of total world life ending effects, says much.
The end event for the Dinos was selective and catastrophic to them not
us. That asteroids have hit Earth for the millenniums of time didn't
stop us nor the Dinos who got much larger on those good times. No, it
was a much more catastrophic event, the loss of Earth's second sun per
nightbat's model scribbles. The planet Jupiter presently is the best
candidate because of its present condition and now failed stellar
ignition state.
Clue: How much of an world wide environment change would occur to the
food green leaf trees, grasses, vegetable, and fruit chain to go from
90% double sun shine to a single solar seasonal one? Would buried Dino
large eggs hatch or be effected in seasonally and long night dropping
temp soil or sands? Would Dinos know how to deal for long with snow and
ice? Why are they finding Dino bones in very cold places like Greenland,
and Canada? Why are there evolved annual as well as perennial plant
species? If there is still tropics, and 24 hrs. of daylight sometimes at
the poles, why wasn't it enough to keep the large Dinos alive? Why did
Dinos need solar protective shields? Answer: Two suns were better then
one for them.
the nightbat
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23 Jul 2003 11:26:58 AM |
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nightbat wrote:
Sam, the idea of fire roasting marshmallows had to come from
somewhere. The idea of subjecting a sweet powdered core to flames then
lapping up the remains came from someplace. The empirical data but not
the effect was lost in all the fun of the roasting no doubt. The fact
that we and much biological life are still around and that the main
original Earth hit asteroid presenting theory fellow rescinded his base
premise of total world life ending effects, says much.
The end event for the Dinos was selective and catastrophic to them not
us. That asteroids have hit Earth for the millenniums of time didn't
stop us nor the Dinos who got much larger on those good times. No, it
was a much more catastrophic event, the loss of Earth's second sun per
nightbat's model scribbles. The planet Jupiter presently is the best
candidate because of its present condition and now failed stellar
ignition state.
Clue: How much of an world wide environment change would occur to the
food green leaf trees, grasses, vegetable, and fruit chain to go from
90% double sun shine to a single solar seasonal one? Would buried Dino
large eggs hatch or be effected in seasonally and long night dropping
temp soil or sands? Would Dinos know how to deal for long with snow and
ice? Why are they finding Dino bones in very cold places like Greenland,
and Canada? Why are there evolved annual as well as perennial plant
species? If there is still tropics, and 24 hrs. of daylight sometimes at
the poles, why wasn't it enough to keep the large Dinos alive? Why did
Dinos need solar protective shields? Answer: Two suns were better then
one for them.
the nightbat
The fossil record indicates that 67% of the species became extinct in a
very short time period at the time of the impact(s). The environmental
devastation may have lasted for millennia. In the end, ninety percent
of the world's biomass [probably] burned, and two thirds of the world's
species disappeared forever, among them, the dinosaurs.
Had humans been around at the time they would have disappeared too.
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| User: "George" |
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23 Jul 2003 01:55:19 PM |
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3F1EB748.C3F05608@mchsi.com...
nightbat wrote:
Sam, the idea of fire roasting marshmallows had to come from
somewhere. The idea of subjecting a sweet powdered core to flames then
lapping up the remains came from someplace. The empirical data but not
the effect was lost in all the fun of the roasting no doubt. The fact
that we and much biological life are still around and that the main
original Earth hit asteroid presenting theory fellow rescinded his base
premise of total world life ending effects, says much.
The end event for the Dinos was selective and catastrophic to them not
us. That asteroids have hit Earth for the millenniums of time didn't
stop us nor the Dinos who got much larger on those good times. No, it
was a much more catastrophic event, the loss of Earth's second sun per
nightbat's model scribbles. The planet Jupiter presently is the best
candidate because of its present condition and now failed stellar
ignition state.
Clue: How much of an world wide environment change would occur to the
food green leaf trees, grasses, vegetable, and fruit chain to go from
90% double sun shine to a single solar seasonal one? Would buried Dino
large eggs hatch or be effected in seasonally and long night dropping
temp soil or sands? Would Dinos know how to deal for long with snow and
ice? Why are they finding Dino bones in very cold places like Greenland,
and Canada? Why are there evolved annual as well as perennial plant
species? If there is still tropics, and 24 hrs. of daylight sometimes at
the poles, why wasn't it enough to keep the large Dinos alive? Why did
Dinos need solar protective shields? Answer: Two suns were better then
one for them.
the nightbat
The fossil record indicates that 67% of the species became extinct in a
very short time period at the time of the impact(s). The environmental
devastation may have lasted for millennia. In the end, ninety percent
of the world's biomass [probably] burned, and two thirds of the world's
species disappeared forever, among them, the dinosaurs.
That case has been made, but never proved. If you look at the genus level,
it drops to just 1/3. And if the biomass had burned for millenia, there
would be ample evidence of it. There is not.
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24 Jul 2003 08:26:17 PM |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:52:46 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
Gave us:
That case has been made, but never proved. If you look at the genus level,
it drops to just 1/3. And if the biomass had burned for millenia, there
would be ample evidence of it. There is not.
Yes, there is. It is called the K-T layer. Do YOU know how long it
took to accumulate as a layer of deposited debris? Do YOU know what
that debris consisted of?
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24 Jul 2003 09:07:21 PM |
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"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:jn11ivc410ndgr5i9a9g1qis19pt3uegkb@4ax.com...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:52:46 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
Gave us:
That case has been made, but never proved. If you look at the genus
level,
it drops to just 1/3. And if the biomass had burned for millenia,
there
would be ample evidence of it. There is not.
Yes, there is. It is called the K-T layer. Do YOU know how long it
took to accumulate as a layer of deposited debris? Do YOU know what
that debris consisted of?
What does that have to do with burned biomass? Are you suggesting that
burned biomass can be turned into clay?
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24 Jul 2003 10:26:33 PM |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:07:21 -0400, "George" <george@sourpudding.net>
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What does that have to do with burned biomass? Are you suggesting that
burned biomass can be turned into clay?
You don't know much about sedimentary depositions, eh?
Layers of ash between volcanic eruptions show up in cross sectional
views as layers of strata. Some remain several years before
subsequent layering is formed. Are you saying that such media does
not change the way layers build?
By the way, dipshit, the K-T layer is NOT clay. It is formed from
atmospheric debris subsequent to a large meteor impact on the planet
near the yucatan. So... burned biomass? Probably, among other
things.
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| User: "George" |
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24 Jul 2003 11:23:29 PM |
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"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:07:21 -0400, "George" <george@sourpudding.net>
Gave us:
What does that have to do with burned biomass? Are you suggesting that
burned biomass can be turned into clay?
You don't know much about sedimentary depositions, eh?
Actually, I know quite a lot about sedimentary petrology. And you?
Layers of ash between volcanic eruptions show up in cross sectional
views as layers of strata. Some remain several years before
subsequent layering is formed. Are you saying that such media does
not change the way layers build?
Not at all. I'm saying that the K-T layer is predominantly a clay paleosol
in the US.
http://palaeo.gly.bris.ac.uk/communication/Belton/evid.html
By the way, dipshit, the K-T layer is NOT clay.
If you believe that, you've been looking at the wrong layers.
http://palaeo.gly.bris.ac.uk/communication/Belton/evid.html
It is formed from atmospheric debris subsequent to a large meteor impact on
the planet
near the yucatan. So... burned biomass? Probably, among other
things.
Yes, burned biomass. And not necessarily at the K-T boundary, since your
argument was that a high O2 level would result in massive fires. My
response was where is the burned biomass (the carbon deposits) indicating
that this would occur or had occurred? Terrestrial deposits do indicate a
higher than present O2 level during the Mezozoic.
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25 Jul 2003 02:31:13 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 00:23:29 -0400, "George" <george@sourpudding.net>
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Yes, burned biomass. And not necessarily at the K-T boundary, since your
argument was that a high O2 level would result in massive fires.
NO. LEARN TO READ! I DID NOT EVER SAY THAT AT ALL.
That was some asswipe that thinks the earth is inflating like a
balloon.
My
response was where is the burned biomass (the carbon deposits) indicating
that this would occur or had occurred?
The "burn" you refer to was whatever "burned" after the meteor
impact.
Terrestrial deposits do indicate a
higher than present O2 level during the Mezozoic.
And MY contention was that there was more oxygen in the eras
preceding the K-T layer/period change.
I AM NOT the guy that said everything would burn, damnit!
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24 Jul 2003 09:08:04 AM |
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nightbat wrote
Sam Wormley wrote:
nightbat wrote:
Sam, the idea of fire roasting marshmallows had to come from
somewhere. The idea of subjecting a sweet powdered core to flames then
lapping up the remains came from someplace. The empirical data but not
the effect was lost in all the fun of the roasting no doubt. The fact
that we and much biological life are still around and that the main
original Earth hit asteroid presenting theory fellow rescinded his base
premise of total world life ending effects, says much.
The end event for the Dinos was selective and catastrophic to them not
us. That asteroids have hit Earth for the millenniums of time didn't
stop us nor the Dinos who got much larger on those good times. No, it
was a much more catastrophic event, the loss of Earth's second sun per
nightbat's model scribbles. The planet Jupiter presently is the best
candidate because of its present condition and now failed stellar
ignition state.
Clue: How much of an world wide environment change would occur to the
food green leaf trees, grasses, vegetable, and fruit chain to go from
90% double sun shine to a single solar seasonal one? Would buried Dino
large eggs hatch or be effected in seasonally and long night dropping
temp soil or sands? Would Dinos know how to deal for long with snow and
ice? Why are they finding Dino bones in very cold places like Greenland,
and Canada? Why are there evolved annual as well as perennial plant
species? If there is still tropics, and 24 hrs. of daylight sometimes at
the poles, why wasn't it enough to keep the large Dinos alive? Why did
Dinos need solar protective shields? Answer: Two suns were better then
one for them.
the nightbat
The fossil record indicates that 67% of the species became extinct in a
very short time period at the time of the impact(s). The environmental
devastation may have lasted for millennia. In the end, ninety percent
of the world's biomass [probably] burned, and two thirds of the world's
species disappeared forever, among them, the dinosaurs.
Had humans been around at the time they would have disappeared too.
nightbat
I agree Sam that a large number of species in the past were
effected by cosmic body hits to the environment. The lost of Earth's
second sun theory presents an alternate scenario to a world wide species
becoming totally extinct due to a solitary asteroid hit, for the
biological gene pool is quite resilient. That some species evolved and
were/are particular to only certain regions, yes. The residual evidence
of biological life, especially remaining large sea life, ( Whales ) in
the world wide oceans, despite the impact of a millennia of foreign
cosmic body impact evidence sites, along with the Earth's large size and
absorptive ability to protect biological species, is formidable due to
land mass and sea depth and ocean planet coverage. That in the beginning
humans didn't exactly have the body makeup or curve lines of JLo or
Britany Spears due to evolution, our apparent real human like ancestors,
like Lucy, are being found along preservative, deeper, naturally exposed
or excavated, particular property mud banks. Also being found in
sedimentary rock layers are Dino embedded ones along side these
prehistoric humanlike remains.
The pointing evidentiary catastrophic event was therefore a particular
species selective one because of the known multiple asteroid collision
pattern and limited world wide effects on biological life at evidenced
examined selected sites. The planet Jupiter presents an interesting
cosmic case study to scientists, for despite its similarities in size
and gas composition to our present sun, it interestingly remains
inexplicably in a now non ignition solar state.
Yes Sam, the true percentage estimate of loss of fauna and species
biological life is debatable with each massive cosmic occurrence or
falling body cataclysmic event, but the loss of an entire world wide
species is selective pointing. A clue is to comparative remaining
particular animal size of air breathing mammal or water oxygen gill
based species experienced with known altered environment intervention
comparatively to alternately remaining species. Particular addressed
questions present themselves as, which extremely large prehistoric
evolved species, if the theory of the loss of the second sun is a
foundation model premise, could large air dependent species survive
Earth loss of solar dependent 50% or turned seasonal land plant output
life? What environmental protective aspect could preserve same despite
its large body comparative size and allow said species to adapt to loss
of dual solar output while other large mass body species, food,
temperature dependent, and land dominant, became extinct?
Presented answer: Under dual solar altered planetary physics, the
present Whale species is evidence of a surviving distressed environment,
air dependent breathing, extremely large species, which contradicts any
comparative cosmic single or multiple asteroid impact negative, non
locale entire species ending effects. The Dinos being massive food,
temperature, and land dependent, therefore lost not to single or
multiple cosmic asteroid body hit, but catastrophical pointing loss of
Earth's second sun candidate, Jupiter. As the solar end sudden failed
ignition sequence took place, the outer corona of the now planet blow
off massive amounts of hydrogen and helium plasma and the cosmic bodies
close enough to its outer gravitational regions where literally torn
apart and blew up. This proposed theoretical cataclysmic event sent
large fragmentary parts into space and raining down on all
gravitationally safe distant planets which because of their further
distant cosmic locations managed to escape total destruction from
Jupiter's solar end sequence. And unlike the ocean protected surviving
Whales, the massive Dinos were not able to survive the loss of the large
food and warmth producing second sun, Jupiter.
the nightbat
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| User: "George" |
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24 Jul 2003 10:31:07 AM |
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"nightbat" <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message
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nightbat wrote
Sam Wormley wrote:
nightbat wrote:
Sam, the idea of fire roasting marshmallows had to come from
somewhere. The idea of subjecting a sweet powdered core to flames then
lapping up the remains came from someplace. The empirical data but not
the effect was lost in all the fun of the roasting no doubt. The fact
that we and much biological life are still around and that the main
original Earth hit asteroid presenting theory fellow rescinded his
base
premise of total world life ending effects, says much.
The end event for the Dinos was selective and catastrophic to them not
us. That asteroids have hit Earth for the millenniums of time didn't
stop us nor the Dinos who got much larger on those good times. No, it
was a much more catastrophic event, the loss of Earth's second sun per
nightbat's model scribbles. The planet Jupiter presently is the best
candidate because of its present condition and now failed stellar
ignition state.
Clue: How much of an world wide environment change would occur to the
food green leaf trees, grasses, vegetable, and fruit chain to go from
90% double sun shine to a single solar seasonal one? Would buried Dino
large eggs hatch or be effected in seasonally and long night dropping
temp soil or sands? Would Dinos know how to deal for long with snow
and
ice? Why are they finding Dino bones in very cold places like
Greenland,
and Canada? Why are there evolved annual as well as perennial plant
species? If there is still tropics, and 24 hrs. of daylight sometimes
at
the poles, why wasn't it enough to keep the large Dinos alive? Why did
Dinos need solar protective shields? Answer: Two suns were better then
one for them.
the nightbat
The fossil record indicates that 67% of the species became extinct in a
very short time period at the time of the impact(s). The environmental
devastation may have lasted for millennia. In the end, ninety percent
of the world's biomass [probably] burned, and two thirds of the world's
species disappeared forever, among them, the dinosaurs.
Had humans been around at the time they would have disappeared too.
nightbat
I agree Sam that a large number of species in the past were
effected by cosmic body hits to the environment. The lost of Earth's
second sun theory
You should rename yourself Mr. dingbat.
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