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29 Aug 2005 06:16:40 AM |
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Re: Global warming will lead to mass extinction of life on earth |
In article <4312b4f3.1424568@news.clara.net>, says...
This is proof that God does not exist . Also Yanks are to
blame for burning up the world's fossil fuels by taxing fuel too low.
Katrina is just the start . Expect winter hurricanes as well.
Boost to CO2 mass extinction idea
By Helen Briggs
BBC News science reporter
A computer simulation of the Earth's climate 250 million years ago
suggests that global warming triggered the so-called "great dying".
A dramatic rise in carbon dioxide caused temperatures to soar to 10 to
30 degrees Celsius higher than today, say US researchers.
You should not believe that *****, habshi.
It comes precisely from those who really would like to have
some "mass extinction" of people on earth, namely, the US
imperialists above all.
As pointed out at the website http://www.co2science.org for
instance, which quotes some actual research on this, the rise
in the CO2 levels at all points in the past came much later
than the themerature rises.
Causing the earth to warm - a little - is an increase of
the sun's radiation, the writers there and at some other
really scientific websites point out. This warming is all for
the good.
Increased CO2 levels are no "threat" at all but, on the
contrary, make plants grow faster and better and thus is
good for agriculture, all over the globe.
The "harmful manmade global warming" propganda has some very
nasty political motives behind it.
See my homepage on this and on the entire "green" warfare,
only one part of which is this ***** propganda.
Several websites refuting it are linked to, for instance.
And in articles of my own, I'm discussing the motives for it.
Rolf M.
www.rolf-martens.com
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| User: "Alex Terrell" |
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| Title: Re: Global warming will lead to mass extinction of life on earth |
29 Aug 2005 07:19:42 AM |
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Rolf Martens wrote:
A computer simulation of the Earth's climate 250 million years ago
suggests that global warming triggered the so-called "great dying".
A dramatic rise in carbon dioxide caused temperatures to soar to 10 to
30 degrees Celsius higher than today, say US researchers.
You should not believe that *****, habshi.
It comes precisely from those who really would like to have
some "mass extinction" of people on earth, namely, the US
imperialists above all.
That's a very wild claim. Typically made by those who live in a world
of self delusion. I don't think there are many americans who would
welcome mass extinction. That used to be a Communist aim, subsequently
taken over by some extreme islamists.
As pointed out at the website http://www.co2science.org for
instance, which quotes some actual research on this, the rise
in the CO2 levels at all points in the past came much later
than the themerature rises.
Causing the earth to warm - a little - is an increase of
the sun's radiation, the writers there and at some other
really scientific websites point out.
This seems to contradict the global dimming widely observed.
This warming is all for
the good.
No. People who think it may be for the good confuse a warmer Earth with
a warming Earth. The former may be good, the latter is undoubtedly bad.
Increased CO2 levels are no "threat" at all but, on the
contrary, make plants grow faster and better and thus is
good for agriculture, all over the globe.
The "harmful manmade global warming" propganda has some very
nasty political motives behind it.
I would have thought the Anti Global Warming propoganda from the US
imperialists would upset you more.
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| User: "Rolf Martens" |
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| Title: Re: Global warming will lead to mass extinction of life on earth |
29 Aug 2005 07:58:21 AM |
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In article <1125317982.105708.10960@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
alexterrell@yahoo.com says...
Rolf Martens wrote:
A computer simulation of the Earth's climate 250 million years ago
suggests that global warming triggered the so-called "great dying".
A dramatic rise in carbon dioxide caused temperatures to soar to 10 to
30 degrees Celsius higher than today, say US researchers.
You should not believe that *****, habshi.
It comes precisely from those who really would like to have
some "mass extinction" of people on earth, namely, the US
imperialists above all.
That's a very wild claim. Typically made by those who live in a world
of self delusion. I don't think there are many americans who would
welcome mass extinction.
No, of course not. The US government, and some others of the
same sort however, are trying to effect some such.
That used to be a Communist aim, subsequently
taken over by some extreme islamists.
Certainly not a communist aim, quite on the contrary. But
perhaps you don't know the difference between communism and
that social-imperialism which was represented by the government
of the Soviet Union and was rightly identiefied and strongly
attacked as such by Mao Zedong and other genuine commnists
from 1964 on.
As pointed out at the website http://www.co2science.org for
instance, which quotes some actual research on this, the rise
in the CO2 levels at all points in the past came much later
than the themerature rises.
Causing the earth to warm - a little - is an increase of
the sun's radiation, the writers there and at some other
really scientific websites point out.
This seems to contradict the global dimming widely observed.
Well, there *is* a question of whether a warming actually
continues today. There has been a certain such in this century,
at least, notably before 1940 (after which there were 2-3
decades of cooling). If there is warming, then not much of it.
This warming is all for
the good.
No. People who think it may be for the good confuse a warmer Earth with
a warming Earth. The former may be good, the latter is undoubtedly bad.
No, why? In the "Climactic Optimum" some 1000 years ago, the
earth was warmer than today, and conditions quite good for mankind.
Increased CO2 levels are no "threat" at all but, on the
contrary, make plants grow faster and better and thus is
good for agriculture, all over the globe.
The "harmful manmade global warming" propganda has some very
nasty political motives behind it.
I would have thought the Anti Global Warming propoganda from the US
imperialists would upset you more.
There is no such, of course.
Rolf M.
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| User: "" |
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29 Aug 2005 06:52:24 AM |
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The Social Superorganism and its Global Brain
http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/SUPORGLI.html
Society can be viewed as a multicellular organism, with individuals in
the role of the cells. The network of communication channels connecting
individuals then plays the role of a nervous system for this
superorganism, i.e. a "global brain".
It is an old idea, dating back at least to the ancient Greeks, that the
whole of human society can be viewed as a single organism. Many
thinkers have noticed the similarity between the roles played by
different organizations in society and the functions of organs, systems
and circuits in the body. For example, industrial plants extract energy
and building blocks from raw materials, just like the digestive system.
Roads, railways and waterways transport these products from one part of
the system to another one, just like the arteries and veins. Garbage
dumps and sewage systems collect waste products, just like the colon
and the bladder. The army and police protect the society against
invaders and rogue elements, just like the immune system.
Such initially vague analogies become more precise as the understanding
of organisms increases. The concepts of systems theory provide a good
framework for establishing a precise correspondence between organismic
and societal functions. The fact that complex organisms, like our own
bodies, are built up from individual cells, led to the concept of
superorganism. If cells aggregate to form a multicellular organism,
then organisms might aggregate to form an organism of organisms: a
superorganism. Biologists agree that social insect colonies, such as
ant nests or beehives, are best seen as such superorganisms. The
activities of a single ant, bee or termite are meaningless unless they
are understood in function of the survival of the colony.
Individual humans may seem similar to the cells of a social
superorganism, but they are still much more independent than ants or
cells (Heylighen & Campbell, 1995). This is especially clear if we look
at the remaining competition, conflicts and misunderstandings between
individuals and groups. Thus human society is still an ambivalent
system, balancing between individual selfishness and collective
responsibility. In that sense it may be more similar to organisms like
slime molds or sponges, whose cells can live individually as well as
collectively, than to true multicellular organisms. However, there
seems to be a continuing trend towards global integration. As
technological and social systems develop into a more closely knit
tissue of interactions, transcending the old boundaries between
countries and cultures, the social superorganism seems to turn from a
metaphor into a reality. Although many people tend to see the
super-organism philosophy as a totalitarian or collectivist ideology,
the opposite is true: further integration will basically increase
individual freedom and diversity.
Most recently, the technological revolution has produced a global
communication network, which can be seen as a nervous system for this
planetary being. As the computer network becomes more intelligent it
starts to look more like a global brain or super-brain, with
capabilities far surpassing those of individual people (see our page on
learning, brain-like webs for an experimental approach to make the net
more intelligent). This is part of an evolutionary transition to a
higher level of complexity. A remaining question is whether this
transition will lead to the integration of the whole of humanity,
producing a human "super-being", or merely enhance the capabilities of
individuals, thus producing a multitude of "meta-beings".
In order to study these different issues, the "Global Brain Group" has
been created. Its members include most of the authors that have written
on the subject. Their works and others are listed in the global brain
bibliography. Their discussion have inspired a Global Brain FAQ, i.e. a
list of answers to the most common questions raised by this subject.
Copyright=A9 2000 Principia Cybernetica - Referencing this page
Author
F=2E Heylighen,
Date
Mar 23, 2000 (modified)
May 13, 1996 (created)
Home
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Discussion
* commentary, Comment by Don Edward Beck
* Universal Genesis, Illustration by Levan Gvelesiani
* Evolution and Anthropology: =A8The more things change, the more
they stay the same=B4., Comment by Gamarra, Paula
* Global Brain or Global Mind?, Comment by Kris ROOSE
* Coming Along Nicely, Comment by Don Stockbauer
* Coming Along Nicely, Comment by Don Stockbauer
* response, Comment by Jakub Olesiak
* Different Scenarios for Global Brain Formation, Comment by Don
Stockbauer
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29 Aug 2005 06:54:19 AM |
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29 Aug 2005 07:01:19 AM |
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(Your profound physics comment here)
What, Darlene?? Chickens to feed? OK, be there in a second. Just
straightening out these physics geeks, you know, the guys who think
they have the Universe all figured out, when in reality they're dealing
with just a tiny little subsystem of it, as we know from Einstein's
limited writings. Why, yes, Darlene, it does take a cyberneticist to
figure out everything. That's why cy/systems theory is the THEORY OF
EVERYTHING, you silly goose. No, I said chickens; be right there to
help in a second. Beats "interfacing" with these college frat losers.
Have a nice day.
DMS
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