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User: "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \dlzc\ N: dlzc1 D:cox"
Date: 08 Sep 2005 08:13:00 AM
Object: Re: GR-Tivity TRACK-marks.!!
Dear brian a m stuckless:
"brian a m stuckless" <bastuck@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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$ GEDANKEN GR-Tivity TRACK-marks.!!
Several GR-Tivity observers SiMULTANEOUSLY observe a train

"simultaneously"

SPEEDiNG along the track AWAY from some POiNT A on the track.
But SURELY, even though ONLY ONE (1) SiNGLE distinct
TRACKMARK has been STRUCK (at track POiNT B), each GR-Tivity
OBSERVER will have, most CERTAiNLY, calculated a
SiGNiFiCANTLY different LENGTH ..AB.!!

It depends on their relation (position and velocity) to the line
segment AB. But their "calculations" are interconvertible to any
other frames.
David A. Smith
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User: "brian a m stuckless"

Title: Re: GR-Tivity TRACK-marks.!! 08 Sep 2005 10:29:43 AM
N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:

Dear brian a m stuckless:
"brian a m stuckless" <bastuck@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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$ GEDANKEN GR-Tivity TRACK-marks.!!
Several GR-Tivity observers SiMULTANEOUSLY observe a train
SPEEDiNG along the track AWAY from some POiNT A on the track.

Then, ONE GR-observer FiRES a TRiGGER-signal which is RECiEVED
by a transmitter/receiver (transceiver) located on TOP the train.
This transceiver iMMEDiATELY re-FiRES the signal to the LASER GUN
(conveniently located UNDER the train) which, iMMEDiATELY, re-FiRES
jUST ONE (1) very strong SiNGLE laser PULSE, and so ONLY engraving
jUST ONE (1) very DiSTiNCT TRACKmark (at a POiNT B on the track).!!

But SURELY, even though ONLY ONE (1) SiNGLE distinct
TRACKMARK has been STRUCK (at track POiNT B), each GR-Tivity
OBSERVER will have, most CERTAiNLY, calculated a
SiGNiFiCANTLY different LENGTH ..AB.!!


It depends on their relation (position and velocity) to the line
segment AB. But their "calculations" are interconvertible to any
other frames.

David A. Smith

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POSiTiONs A & B, VELOCiTY vector A->B and LiNE SEGMENT A~B follow:
$ Momentum VECTOR ABCs:
Momentum is a VECTOR quantity --NOT conjugate of POSiTiON. Vectors
cannot be 'measured'. Vectors can only be 'imagined' BETWEEN TWO
coordinate positions (located on ANY path). ANY OTHER TWO points,
on the SAME path, will constitute ANOTHER imaginary VECTOR ..even
though these OTHER TWO vector points are ALSO on the SAME PATH.!!
THEREFORE any 'momentum UNCERTAiNTY' for ANY particle 'decreases'
with any 'increase' in the STRAiGHTNESS of the particle's path.!!
o o o o
o o o vector
o o o projection
A - - - VELOCiTY vector - -> B - - - - -> C
o o o
o o o
o o
ANY path.
Note velocity (A->B) / t is independent of the speed (A~B) / t.!!
Again, ANY OTHER 'imagined' VELOCiTY BETWEEN any OTHER TWO points
(each located on the SAME path) will indicate a DiFFERENT VELOCiTY
VECTOR, ..albiet, even though that SAME path DOES NOT CHANGE.!!
VECTOR PROjECTiON B->C fits the latest "vector" DEFiNiTiON.!!
ASSume "ANY path", as shown above, is the train-track.!!
Sincerely, ```Brian

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User: "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \dlzc\ N: dlzc1 D:cox"

Title: Re: GR-Tivity TRACK-marks.!! 08 Sep 2005 09:03:53 PM
Dear brian a m stuckless:
"brian a m stuckless" <bastuck@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43205834.3233@nf.sympatico.ca...
....

Momentum is a VECTOR quantity --NOT conjugate of POSiTiON.
Vectors
cannot be 'measured'.

Yes, we've been through this misunderstanding of yours before.
David A. Smith
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User: "brian a m stuckless"

Title: Re: GR-Tivity TRACK-marks.!! 09 Sep 2005 04:22:59 AM
$ VECTOR PROjECTiONs
VECTORs are ONLY iMAGiNED ..and MEASURED ONLY in RETROSPECT.!!
The VECTOR depends ARBiTRARiLY, and DiRECTLY, on POSiTiON B.!!
The POSiTiON B therefore, CANNOT be CONjUGATE of POSiTiON A.!!
POSiTiON A can be MEASURED ..with ACCURACY of (+ or -) hbar.!!
Of course, this makes HEiSENBERG's UNcertainty UN-necessary.!!
HEiSENBERG's UNnecessary UNcertainty PRiNCiPLE is REDUNDANT.!!
Shown VECTOR PROjECTiON BC fits 'your' DEFiNiTiON of VECTOR.!!
This VECTOR PROjECTiON shown is the latest GR-Tivity VECTOR.!!
This LATEST GR-Tivity VECTOR has ONLY ONE POiNT on the PATH.!!
Note, BACK of train is POSiTiON A, and the FRONT POSiTiON B:
o o o o
o o o VECTOR
o o o projection
A - - VELOCiTY vector - - -> B - - - - - -> C
o o o
o o o
o o
ANY train-track or path.
ANY OTHER two POiNTs on the SAME PATH is a DiFFERENT VECTOR.!!
Hope this helps, ```Brian
p.s.
EMBANKment ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Fish near embankment >><> >><> >><> >><> >><>

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N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:

Dear brian a m stuckless:
"brian a m stuckless" <bastuck@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43205834.3233@nf.sympatico.ca...

Momentum is a VECTOR quantity --NOT conjugate of POSiTiON.
Vectors cannot be 'measured'.


Yes, we've been through this misunderstanding of yours before.

David A. Smith

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User: "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \dlzc\ N: dlzc1 D:cox"

Title: Re: GR-Tivity TRACK-marks.!! 09 Sep 2005 11:11:57 PM
Dear brian a m stuckless:
"brian a m stuckless" <bastuck@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43214F2C.4BA2@nf.sympatico.ca...
....

POSiTiON A can be MEASURED ..with ACCURACY of (+ or -) hbar.!!

Your delusion continues unabated. You can measure any single
quantity of a conjugate pair to *any* arbitrary accuracy. The
Planck limitation applies to the product of the uncertainty of
*both* measurements of a conjugate pair for a single "body". I
don't expect the facts to dissuade you from flaunting both your
lack of comprehension and your imagined formatting skills.
Goodbye.
<plonk>
David A. Smith
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User: "brian a m stuckless"

Title: Re: GR-Tivity TRACK-marks.!! 10 Sep 2005 04:32:34 AM
You CANNOT measure A SiNGLE quantity, to ARBiTRARY accuracy.!!
POSiTiON A can be MEASURED with ACCURACY of (+ or -) hbar/2.!!
PLANCK LiMiTATiON applies to ALL SiNGLE QUANTiTiEs, as well.!!
ALL, SiNGLE measurements are LiMiTED to +/- hbar/2 ACCURACY.!!
Thus, HEiSENBERG's UN-certainty PRiNCiPLE ..is UN-necessary.!!
YOU've been SORELY DUPED, Mr SMiTH and you're a cracked-pot.!!
And evidently, it seems, "Your DELUSiON continues UNabated".!!
Heisenberg says, You CANNOT DOUBLE-FOCUS with a SiNGLE lens.!!
Clearly, the HEiSENBERG UNcertainty PRiNCiPLE *ought to* MORE
APPROPRiATELY read as follows ( ..and NOT a WORD more.!! ):
$ "You cannot DOUBLE-FOCUS with a SiNGLE lense.!!"
Sincerely, ```Brian
p.s.
VELOCiTY vector *CERTAiNTY* depends on PATH STRAiGHTness.!!
'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'`
____ _ _ _ _
| _ \ | | ___ _ __ | | __ | | | |
| |_) | | | / _ \ | '_ \ | |/ / |_| |_|
The BiG | __/ | | | (_) | | | | | | < _ _ _
|_| |_| \___/ |_| |_| |_|\_\ (_) (_) (_)
..-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_
NO more is more.!!

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N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:

Dear brian a m stuckless:
"brian a m stuckless" <bastuck@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43214F2C.4BA2@nf.sympatico.ca...

POSiTiON A can be MEASURED ..with ACCURACY of (+ or -) hbar.!!


Your delusion continues unabated. You can measure any single
quantity of a conjugate pair to *any* arbitrary accuracy. The
Planck limitation applies to the product of the uncertainty of
*both* measurements of a conjugate pair for a single "body". I
don't expect the facts to dissuade you from flaunting both your
lack of comprehension and your imagined formatting skills.

Goodbye.
<plonk>

David A. Smith

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Title: Re: GR-Tivity TRACK-marks.!! 08 Sep 2005 09:37:59 PM
I had a defective keyboard like that once myself.
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