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"Uncle Al" |
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09 Feb 2005 10:51:35 AM |
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Re: How much TNT would it take to blow up Mecca? |
Maaxx wrote:
I need to know for the White House.
Fool, posseur. A White House consultant would be more concerned with
image than results. The answer satisfying both is then obvious. Dr.
Schund long ago submitted TOP SECRET/Lots Eater "Operation
Reverberating Hammer" and been exceedingly well remunerated for it
(offshore and tax-exempt).
The major problem with high yield thermonukes vs. ground effects'
radius is that the confining plug of overlying atmosphere is blown out
into space. Anything much beyond a megatonne is mostly wasted.
An LGM-118 Peacekeeper carries ten W87 300-475 kT MIRV warheads. With
the Ka'aba as origin, drop a hexagon of six at 3000 ft altitude topped
by a triangle of three at 6000 foot altitude topped by the last one at
9000 ft altitude, with synchronized detonation. The configuration is
obviously a hexagonally close-packed spherical cap topped with a
pom-pom (sop thrown to Canada).
First, the only warhead actually positioned above the Ka'aba is at
9000 feet and would merely be a flash in the sky. The US cannot be
accused of nuking the Ka'aba. Second, the Mach-Stem waves would
exactly converge on the Ka'aba for summed thunk without cratering.
Third, The stacked nukes would act as their own tamper as the
reflected shock waves repeatedly smote the idolators' pimary altar -
no survivable atmospheric plug necessary. Finally, do the necessary
deed during the height of haj with all the smelly gits circling the
abomination to shove a thumb up their dingleberried Islamic asses and
really ***** them off...
....for a microsecond. The US never bears a grudge. Russia nukes
Chechnya; China nukes its own Islamic dirt; nobody complains. Think
of it as ethnic cleansing with brighter Whites and muted Coloreds.
Ground spacing of the primary hexagon is left as an exercise for the
alert reader. Note the topography of Mecca circum-Ka'aba and remember
the problems with Nagaskai foothills on 09 August 1945.
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Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Alex" |
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09 Feb 2005 12:47:13 PM |
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How old are you Uncle Al? Your post is typical of pubescent boys. I
was inclined to let it go as vaguely humorous or ironic but is it?
Most adults just want a quiet life, to be left to their own devices,
have friends and love their kids. This applies to Islamic people as
well as the secular. There is nothing there to hate. There is no
threat until everyone starts to fear everyone else.
Stick to physics Al.
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| User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org" |
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11 Feb 2005 02:49:01 AM |
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"Alex" <dralexgreen@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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How old are you Uncle Al? Your post is typical of pubescent boys. I
was inclined to let it go as vaguely humorous or ironic but is it?
Most adults just want a quiet life, to be left to their own devices,
have friends and love their kids. This applies to Islamic people as
well as the secular. There is nothing there to hate. There is no
threat until everyone starts to fear everyone else.
Stick to physics Al.
Schwartz doesn't know any physics.
I posted the following:
For quotations, reference
"On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies" - by Albert Einstein.
online version
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
Declare v > 0.
Einstein defines
'the ``time'' required by light to travel from A to B equals the
``time'' it requires to travel from B to A.'
and formally states
"the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k [ aka A ], when
measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v, so that
x'/(c-v) = t"
which leads directly to
the ray moves relatively from the point of reflection [aka B] , when
measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c+v, so that
x'/(c+v) = t
and is evidenced in the equation
½[tau(0,0,0,t)+tau(0,0,0,t+x'/(c-v)+x'/(c+v))] = tau(x',0,0,t+x'/(c-v))
Hence:
x'/(c-v) = x'/(c+v)
from which we have a (formal mathematical) proof by contradiction that
v > 0 ,which is against the definition.
QED.
Schwartz responded with:
BTW, you *****-faced baboon, "(c+v) appears nowhere in the paper, nor
could it.
Androcles.
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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09 Feb 2005 02:26:00 PM |
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Alex wrote:
How old are you Uncle Al? Your post is typical of pubescent boys. I
was inclined to let it go as vaguely humorous or ironic but is it?
Most adults just want a quiet life, to be left to their own devices,
have friends and love their kids. This applies to Islamic people as
well as the secular. There is nothing there to hate. There is no
threat until everyone starts to fear everyone else.
Stick to physics Al.
Terrorism has no rules. Reprisal for terrorism abides by terrorism's
rules. Japan's undeclared attack upon a legitimate military target
was reprised with Hiroshima (payback) and Nagasaki (interest on the
debt). Islam's undeclared "stateless" attack upon the World Trade
Center killing 2800 international civilians will eventually be met
with "stateless" reprisal vaporizing Mecca and Medina - and more.
Both Russia and China have serious issue with Islam's perverse
enfatuation with murder and destruction, and share a common goal with
the US - reprisal and cauterization.
Sand niggers and dune coons gave it their best cheap shot. Their
Allah is going to enjoy a nuclear hemorrhoidectomy. (Especially
Wahhabi) Arabia thinks it has nothing to lose this life vs. the next.
It will be massively proven to be wrong. Bush the Lesser has deficit
dumped nearly a $trillion into that sandy shithole. It is futile
against the mob. The debt must be repaid - massive taxation or
massive inflation. The only other alternative is massive war and the
spoils of war in compensation.
Uncle Al says, "Let the Marines do their job without interference.
Come back in a month to lasting peace and start pumping oil at the
true amortized wellhead cost of $1/bbl."
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "David Thomson" |
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18 Feb 2005 08:42:26 PM |
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:420A71D8.7E51817B@hate.spam.net...
Terrorism has no rules. Reprisal for terrorism abides by terrorism's
rules. Japan's undeclared attack upon a legitimate military target
was reprised with Hiroshima (payback) and Nagasaki (interest on the
debt). Islam's undeclared "stateless" attack upon the World Trade
Center killing 2800 international civilians will eventually be met
with "stateless" reprisal vaporizing Mecca and Medina - and more.
Both Russia and China have serious issue with Islam's perverse
enfatuation with murder and destruction, and share a common goal with
the US - reprisal and cauterization.
Sand niggers and dune coons gave it their best cheap shot. Their
Allah is going to enjoy a nuclear hemorrhoidectomy. (Especially
Wahhabi) Arabia thinks it has nothing to lose this life vs. the next.
It will be massively proven to be wrong. Bush the Lesser has deficit
dumped nearly a $trillion into that sandy shithole. It is futile
against the mob. The debt must be repaid - massive taxation or
massive inflation. The only other alternative is massive war and the
spoils of war in compensation.
Uncle Al says, "Let the Marines do their job without interference.
Come back in a month to lasting peace and start pumping oil at the
true amortized wellhead cost of $1/bbl."
You are pathetic, Al. I had only a tiny bit of respect for you to begin
with, but that has all been wiped away with your two previous posts. My dad
was a QASAS for the Army and controlled the safety of munitions (including
nuclear weapons) for large portions of the US, Europe, and Japan. The world
can be thankful that my dad was the authority at that time and not you.
Despite the fact that he had four brothers that served in WWII (two of whom
watched the first nuclear explosions at Bikini Atoll), and served in Korea
and Vietnam on the front lines, he still managed to come through and
understand the necessity for responsible use of force. Knowing just how
close we have come to nuclear war on several occasions and then seeing how
the problems were solved peacefully, I can't imagine someone like you being
anywhere close to the trigger.
Your hatred will never be satisfied with the death of your perceived enemies
and by the time your enemies were all annihilated, so would your own
children be. The Earth cannot take a nuclear war without bringing upon an
extremely devastating and quick ice age. Even if we managed not to destroy
the climate, the nuclear fallout would certainly ruin vast areas of the
Earth for thousands of years to come. And for what? To appease the hatred
of a few idiots who will only live for 80 years or less?
Ridding the Earth of terrorism will not be easy and it won't come cheap.
But there is no terrorist so bad that it is worth the wholesale destruction
of the planet to get rid of them. Even if we managed to shoot each
terrorist alive today at a total cost of $50, they will spring up amidst us
again in future generations. It will take brains to get rid of terrorism,
not bombs. First we need to get rid of the hatred, which means people like
you. But it doesn't mean shooting you, or torturing you, or brainwashing
you. It means the world needs a system of governance that keeps the power
out of the hands of people like you and gives you a chance to grow old and
die in peace. The same goes for the terrorists in the Middle East.
You are no different from Osaka bin Laden in any way. You are a terrorist.
Your only goal is to inflict terror and death on your perceived enemy. You
are a worthless piece of ***** that the rest of the free world has to listen
to in order to preserve freedom. It will be with a great sigh of relief
when I read your obituary. Not so much that you will be dead, but because
you will have died in a peaceful world and never had the chance to realize
your insane designs.
Dave
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| User: "" |
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18 Feb 2005 11:55:50 PM |
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David Thomson wrote:
You are pathetic, Al. I had only a tiny bit of respect for you to
begin
with, but that has all been wiped away with your two previous posts.
My dad
was a QASAS for the Army and controlled the safety of munitions
(including
nuclear weapons) for large portions of the US, Europe, and Japan.
The world
can be thankful that my dad was the authority at that time and not
you.
Despite the fact that he had four brothers that served in WWII (two
of whom
watched the first nuclear explosions at Bikini Atoll), and served in
Korea
and Vietnam on the front lines, he still managed to come through and
understand the necessity for responsible use of force. Knowing just
how
close we have come to nuclear war on several occasions and then
seeing how
the problems were solved peacefully, I can't imagine someone like you
being
anywhere close to the trigger.
Your hatred will never be satisfied with the death of your perceived
enemies
and by the time your enemies were all annihilated, so would your own
children be. The Earth cannot take a nuclear war without bringing
upon an
extremely devastating and quick ice age. Even if we managed not to
destroy
the climate, the nuclear fallout would certainly ruin vast areas of
the
Earth for thousands of years to come. And for what? To appease the
hatred
of a few idiots who will only live for 80 years or less?
Ridding the Earth of terrorism will not be easy and it won't come
cheap.
But there is no terrorist so bad that it is worth the wholesale
destruction
of the planet to get rid of them. Even if we managed to shoot each
terrorist alive today at a total cost of $50, they will spring up
amidst us
again in future generations. It will take brains to get rid of
terrorism,
not bombs. First we need to get rid of the hatred, which means
people like
you. But it doesn't mean shooting you, or torturing you, or
brainwashing
you. It means the world needs a system of governance that keeps the
power
out of the hands of people like you and gives you a chance to grow
old and
die in peace. The same goes for the terrorists in the Middle East.
You are no different from Osaka bin Laden in any way. You are a
terrorist.
Your only goal is to inflict terror and death on your perceived
enemy. You
are a worthless piece of ***** that the rest of the free world has to
listen
to in order to preserve freedom. It will be with a great sigh of
relief
when I read your obituary. Not so much that you will be dead, but
because
you will have died in a peaceful world and never had the chance to
realize
your insane designs.
Dave
A pleasing fact is that Mullah Schwartzian school-of-thought has only
two followers: Uncle Al and his Shadow!
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| User: "David Thomson" |
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20 Feb 2005 01:33:34 PM |
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<farooq_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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A pleasing fact is that Mullah Schwartzian school-of-thought has only
two followers: Uncle Al and his Shadow!
LOL. That's great.
Dave
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| User: "Quantum Mirror" |
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22 Feb 2005 09:48:22 PM |
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A cult started centuries ago is no religion. The boys begin prayer at 3
years of age and never have a chance to decide for themselves. It is a
self replicating, self expanding, self programed, rule oriented and
completely intolerant of influence or other religions, cult of
destruction. The world will have to de-program or destroy it at some
point. With it capacity for breeding and its predilection for murder
and violence this will be a huge undertaking. The world will have to
learn some hard lessons on the way to becoming a peaceful society. This
will be one of the hardest. They will not accept change, influence or
anything but the beliefs from their archaic primitive religion. How can
you overcome that?
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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26 Feb 2005 07:49:09 AM |
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"Quantum Mirror" <junebug@pgrb.com> wrote in message
news:1109130502.553172.131930@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
A cult started centuries ago is no religion. The boys begin prayer at 3
years of age and never have a chance to decide for themselves. It is a
self replicating, self expanding, self programed, rule oriented and
completely intolerant of influence or other religions, cult of
destruction. The world will have to de-program or destroy it at some
point. With it capacity for breeding and its predilection for murder
and violence this will be a huge undertaking. The world will have to
learn some hard lessons on the way to becoming a peaceful society. This
will be one of the hardest. They will not accept change, influence or
anything but the beliefs from their archaic primitive religion. How can
you overcome that?
Quantum Mirror makes a good point!
A small cult-like gang has a long history
of instigating conflict and war
for power and riches.
They instigated the class wars of the 1900's,
and as the loot from their class wars is almost gone,
they are desperately trying to instigate the religious wars of the 2000's,
and trying to con Blacks, Rednecks and Latino's
into sacrificing their lives, limbs, liberties and fortunes,
so they can profit from it.
The gang don't care what the differences are between groups of folks,
class, color, religion, sex, section of the nation, political affiliation,
etc.
they will try to instigate conflict, if they can profit from it.
Perhaps Quantum Mirror is right.
The intense religious indoctrination of this cult
tends to make them think that they are God's chosen people,
and that it is okay for them to create death and despair
among other groups, whom they see as inferior.
And perhaps the solution to this problem,
is to prohibit the religious indoctrination of children,
and to do away with all tax deductions
related to religious and racial activities.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "Quantum Mirror" |
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25 Feb 2005 11:25:42 AM |
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"A small cult-like gang has a long history
of instigating conflict and war
for power and riches."
This is no small cult gang it is millions of the more radical Muslim
fanatics. You are speaking here as if they are guided by a mind. That
is the worst part, there is no mind. Only fathers training sons before
they can think to hate and kill. Spreading with the rate of
reproduction and triplying every 20 years. Mindless, devastating,
disaster! Without steps as radical as uncle AL has suggested or the
biggest campaign of forced removal, deprograming and education ever
attempted, it will come to a head someday!
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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26 Feb 2005 05:07:17 AM |
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"Quantum Mirror" <junebug@pgrb.com> wrote in message
news:1109352342.385183.117050@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
"A small cult-like gang has a long history
of instigating conflict and war
for power and riches."
This is no small cult gang it is millions of the more radical Muslim
fanatics. You are speaking here as if they are guided by a mind. That
is the worst part, there is no mind. Only fathers training sons before
they can think to hate and kill. Spreading with the rate of
reproduction and triplying every 20 years. Mindless, devastating,
disaster! Without steps as radical as uncle AL has suggested or the
biggest campaign of forced removal, deprograming and education ever
attempted, it will come to a head someday!
It is interesting to see that "Quantum Mirror" has,
like many people, been brainwashed to hate folks
that they got along with just fine,
and would continue to get along with just fine.
The war for profit gang exploit ANY differences between folks,
( Class, income, race, color, religion, region of the nation, etc.)
if they can get them fighting and profit from it.
As can be seen, the war-for-profit gang
exploited class and income differences to instigate
the class wars of the 1900's,
and they are exploiting religious differences
to instigate the religious wars of the 2000's.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "Quantum Mirror" |
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01 Mar 2005 03:49:28 AM |
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It is interesting to see that "Quantum Mirror" has,
like many people, been brainwashed to hate folks
Where did I ever bring emotion into my post? You can't even read and
comprehend. There was no emotion in my post. I did not mention Hate or
castigate anyone. I was trying to think like a scientist which is my
normal frame of mind. Your posts are composed of useless diatribes you
attach to script by a pattern of fractal neuronal misfires bringing the
total of your worthiness to any discussion on a par with a popcorn
fart. Your presence in this newsgroup shows neither scientific or
social proclivity. What is your purpose here?
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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01 Mar 2005 05:18:52 AM |
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"Quantum Mirror" <junebug@pgrb.com> wrote in message
news:1109670568.198773.45080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
"Quantum Mirror" wrote:
This is no small cult gang it is millions of the more radical Muslim
fanatics. You are speaking here as if they are guided by a mind. That
is the worst part, there is no mind. Only fathers training sons before
they can think to hate and kill. Spreading with the rate of
reproduction and triplying every 20 years. Mindless, devastating,
disaster! Without steps as radical as uncle AL has suggested or the
biggest campaign of forced removal, deprograming and education ever
attempted, it will come to a head someday!
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I responded:
It is interesting to see that "Quantum Mirror" has,
like many people, been brainwashed to hate folks
that they got along with just fine,
and would continue to get along with just fine.
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"Quantum Mirror" responded:
Where did I ever bring emotion into my post? You can't even read and
comprehend. There was no emotion in my post. I did not mention Hate or
castigate anyone. I was trying to think like a scientist which is my
normal frame of mind. Your posts are composed of useless diatribes you
attach to script by a pattern of fractal neuronal misfires bringing the
total of your worthiness to any discussion on a par with a popcorn
fart. Your presence in this newsgroup shows neither scientific or
social proclivity. What is your purpose here?
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And I answered:
Note that "Quantum Mirror" asserts that Muslims are "fanatic",
and he reveals some paranoia about their rate of reproduction,
and he supports "Uncle Al's" hydrogen bombing of Muslims, or
"the biggest campaign of forced removal, deprograming and education ever
attempted"
Is this "thinking like a scientist",
or is this thinking like a emotional, brainwashed racist?
Or what?????
To answer "Quantum Mirror",
my purpose here is to discuss physics,
but when I read racist post in threads like
"How much TNT would it take to blow up Mecca?"
I try to introduce a little logic and morality to the thread,
rather than allow a small group of racists
use the newsgroup to
instigate hate, conflict and war.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "Quantum Mirror" |
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01 Mar 2005 11:08:12 AM |
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Is this "thinking like a scientist",
A scientist tries to solve problems. You are trying to bring your
worthless ideas of morality to a group who's training and education
demand that such a skewed vision does not enter into their work. Your
moral and religious memes have no place here.Your infantile pedagogy is
bemused by science and strikes out with vicious cornball diatribes,
ranting and railing at what you don't understand. The derision I feel
for all your morality is paramount in saying: go suck a sugar tit
crybaby!
P L O N K!!!!!
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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02 Mar 2005 10:39:57 PM |
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"Quantum Mirror" <junebug@pgrb.com> wrote in message
news:1109696892.802919.192750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Is this "thinking like a scientist",
A scientist tries to solve problems. You are trying to bring your
worthless ideas of morality to a group who's training and education
demand that such a skewed vision does not enter into their work. Your
moral and religious memes have no place here.Your infantile pedagogy is
bemused by science and strikes out with vicious cornball diatribes,
ranting and railing at what you don't understand. The derision I feel
for all your morality is paramount in saying: go suck a sugar tit
crybaby!
P L O N K!!!!!
I see that Quantum Mirror unable to cope with anyone
taking opposition to his, and Uncle Al's, position
that the best way to deal with folks unlike you,
is to massacre them,
so he has ( As they say in psychology "Left the scene." )
and gone away to
"suck a sugar tit crybaby!"
It does seem to me
that massacring a billion folks,
is not a very scientific way to "solve a problem".
It seems to me,
that this "problem" exists only in the minds of
people who are either greedy or paranoiac,
and that waging war and massacring folks is:
"ranting and railing",
a "worthless idea",
"a skewed vision",
"infantile pedagogy",
and
"vicious cornball diatribe".
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "Bruce Sinclair" |
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01 Mar 2005 02:51:09 PM |
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In article <1109696892.802919.192750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, "Quantum Mirror" <junebug@pgrb.com> wrote:
Is this "thinking like a scientist",
A scientist tries to solve problems. You are trying to bring your
worthless ideas of morality to a group who's training and education
demand that such a skewed vision does not enter into their work.
... and you, of course, spuout only the "truth". :)
Your
moral and religious memes have no place here.
... and yours of course do :)
Your infantile pedagogy is
bemused by science and strikes out with vicious cornball diatribes,
ranting and railing at what you don't understand.
.. and yours, of course isn't and doesn't :) :)
The derision I feel
for all your morality is paramount in saying: go suck a sugar tit
crybaby!
Ouch ! .. that's really refuting an argument :) :)
Bruce
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| User: "Quantum Mirror" |
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01 Mar 2005 02:30:12 PM |
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and yours of course do :)
I have no real opinion of religion, other than thinking it came from a
time when our reason far outweighed our knowledge causing questions and
more questions until someone decided answering questions was a good way
to gain popularity and wealth. Thus was born religion. Now with the
strategies refined from few thousand years of how to gain and keep
membership in the church we see hordes of mindless morons spreading
their own made up from the past form of inspiration. What is strange
about religion is most honest individuals don't have faith, but since
all the others have faith they do also. It is a group faith instead of
a individual faith and would die if brought out before the light of day
as the empty shell of nothing it really is.
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25 Feb 2005 07:17:02 PM |
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Quantum Mirror wrote:
"A small cult-like gang has a long history
of instigating conflict and war
for power and riches."
This is no small cult gang it is millions of the more radical Muslim
fanatics. You are speaking here as if they are guided by a mind. That
is the worst part, there is no mind. Only fathers training sons
before
they can think to hate and kill. Spreading with the rate of
reproduction and triplying every 20 years. Mindless, devastating,
disaster! Without steps as radical as uncle AL has suggested or the
biggest campaign of forced removal, deprograming and education ever
attempted, it will come to a head someday!
what a load of narrow-minded non-sense mirror. what you say is true of
the memes nature of religion, but still only a small percentage of
those muslims will be like you predict. the real driving force is the
greed politics of powerful nations like US of A, giving the old fart
clerics and radical masterminds issues on which to incite hatred. if
everything was just dandy and everyone is living the good life and no
one is taken advantage of, do you still think things will be the way
they are? when there are no more greed based conflicts, can you tell me
that when prosperity is across the whole board that a huge number of
people wpuld still want to bother taking arms or blowing themselves up?
most muslims are not radical, and can be influenced to be more
open-minded if they don't have the perception that the west is still
carrying on the greed politics. from that point on they will go about
their own way in questioning their own beliefs ....
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| User: "Quantum Mirror" |
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25 Feb 2005 09:22:25 PM |
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"what a load of narrow-minded non-sense mirror. what you say is true of
the memes nature of religion,"
Fell outside your trench so not as narrow as yours. I have seen first
hand the fathers starting the prayers at three years old. They don't
care who they fight! You want to blame the US and that is another
discussion altogether. I am talking about a mindless cult meme that is
not stoppable. There can be biological and cultural memes that produce
the grey goo syndrome, the total destruction of macro-organisms so
worried about in nanotechnology.
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| User: "" |
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28 Feb 2005 02:28:07 AM |
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In article <1109388775.536358.18400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, writes:
hey narrow-minded idiot, i have seen it first hand too. i am not basing
it on what i've only read. not all start at 3. most of them are at 7
or later years when they go to a religious. the US does play a role in
exarcebating the hatred, and is only making it worse.
Really? What role, pray, does the US play here. Other, I mean, than
the one spelled out by Al-Quida itself in one of its manifestos, going
like (I'm paraphrasing here, since I don't have the exact text in
front of me) "How can we, as Muslim's, tolerate the situation where
others are ding better than we do".
Do you consider this being a valid reason? Yes or no? Mind you, if
your answer is yes, you'll justify (for me) your temporary
classification a subhuman garbage and you'll be plonked. That's all.
Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
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| User: "" |
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28 Feb 2005 04:40:41 AM |
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wrote:
Do you consider this being a valid reason? Yes or no? Mind you, if
your answer is yes, you'll justify (for me) your temporary
classification a subhuman garbage and you'll be plonked. That's all.
so what are you saying, that indeed we should blow up muslims
indiscrimately? if yes that you who should be *plonked* and are
*subhuman garbage*. I was never talking about Al_qaida or justifying
its actions, that is off topic.
this pointless oil-greed mission of the Us in Iraq just creates more
hatred and animosity which makes organizations like Al-Qaeda even more
attractive to young, confused, ill-educated, young muslims -- it gives
them a sense of mission. If it was mere envy and they don't have sense
that another group of people have done them wrong then i doubt there
would be reason enough to go blow yourself up.
Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the
same"
<Mati Meron plonked>
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| User: "" |
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28 Feb 2005 04:46:26 AM |
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In article <1109587241.713669.179320@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, writes:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
Do you consider this being a valid reason? Yes or no? Mind you, if
your answer is yes, you'll justify (for me) your temporary
classification a subhuman garbage and you'll be plonked. That's all.
so what are you saying, that indeed we should blow up muslims
indiscrimately?
Did I say it? Point out where. Until a satisfactory response will be
provided, do not expect any further communication.
Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
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| User: "" |
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25 Feb 2005 09:32:55 PM |
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hey narrow-minded idiot, i have seen it first hand too. i am not basing
it on what i've only read. not all start at 3. most of them are at 7
or later years when they go to a religious. the US does play a role in
exarcebating the hatred, and is only making it worse. the meme can't
be stopped, but its effects can be limited by education, by
understanding and by fairness.
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| User: "Quantum Mirror" |
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28 Feb 2005 08:19:18 AM |
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I guess a circle is not narrow and that is as far as your mind can get.
You make a idiot look like a genius!
Lucky if I never read another of your posts!
PLONK!!!
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| User: "" |
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19 Feb 2005 04:10:18 AM |
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David Thomson wrote:
"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
You are pathetic, Al. I had only a tiny bit of respect for you to
begin
with, but that has all been wiped away with your two previous posts.
My dad
was a QASAS for the Army and controlled the safety of munitions
(including
nuclear weapons) for large portions of the US, Europe, and Japan.
The world
can be thankful that my dad was the authority at that time and not
you.
Despite the fact that he had four brothers that served in WWII (two
of whom
watched the first nuclear explosions at Bikini Atoll), and served in
Korea
and Vietnam on the front lines, he still managed to come through and
understand the necessity for responsible use of force. Knowing just
how
close we have come to nuclear war on several occasions and then
seeing how
the problems were solved peacefully, I can't imagine someone like you
being
anywhere close to the trigger.
Your hatred will never be satisfied with the death of your perceived
enemies
and by the time your enemies were all annihilated, so would your own
children be. The Earth cannot take a nuclear war without bringing
upon an
extremely devastating and quick ice age. Even if we managed not to
destroy
the climate, the nuclear fallout would certainly ruin vast areas of
the
Earth for thousands of years to come. And for what? To appease the
hatred
of a few idiots who will only live for 80 years or less?
Ridding the Earth of terrorism will not be easy and it won't come
cheap.
But there is no terrorist so bad that it is worth the wholesale
destruction
of the planet to get rid of them. Even if we managed to shoot each
terrorist alive today at a total cost of $50, they will spring up
amidst us
again in future generations. It will take brains to get rid of
terrorism,
not bombs. First we need to get rid of the hatred, which means
people like
you. But it doesn't mean shooting you, or torturing you, or
brainwashing
you. It means the world needs a system of governance that keeps the
power
out of the hands of people like you and gives you a chance to grow
old and
die in peace. The same goes for the terrorists in the Middle East.
You are no different from Osaka bin Laden in any way. You are a
terrorist.
Your only goal is to inflict terror and death on your perceived
enemy. You
are a worthless piece of ***** that the rest of the free world has to
listen
to in order to preserve freedom. It will be with a great sigh of
relief
when I read your obituary. Not so much that you will be dead, but
because
you will have died in a peaceful world and never had the chance to
realize
your insane designs.
Dave
Well, Dave for once I agree with you, maybe you should do peacekeeping
instead of physics. bye.
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| User: "Mitch Perkins" |
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15 Mar 2005 03:42:04 PM |
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David Thomson wrote:
It will be with a great sigh of relief
when I read your obituary. Not so much that you will be dead, but
because
you will have died in a peaceful world and never had the chance to
realize
your insane designs.
Dave
Sorry folks, just wanted to quote this to make sure it doesn't
disappear; I have plans for it. [nyuk nyuk]
Mitch
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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12 Apr 2005 11:52:24 PM |
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In article <420A71D8.7E51817B@hate.spam.net>,
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Alex wrote:
How old are you Uncle Al? Your post is typical of pubescent boys. I
was inclined to let it go as vaguely humorous or ironic but is it?
Most adults just want a quiet life, to be left to their own devices,
have friends and love their kids. This applies to Islamic people as
well as the secular. There is nothing there to hate. There is no
threat until everyone starts to fear everyone else.
Stick to physics Al.
Terrorism has no rules. Reprisal for terrorism abides by terrorism's
rules. Japan's undeclared attack upon a legitimate military target
was reprised with Hiroshima (payback) and Nagasaki (interest on the
debt). Islam's undeclared "stateless" attack upon the World Trade
Center killing 2800 international civilians will eventually be met
with "stateless" reprisal vaporizing Mecca and Medina - and more.
Both Russia and China have serious issue with Islam's perverse
enfatuation with murder and destruction, and share a common goal with
the US - reprisal and cauterization.
Sand niggers and dune coons gave it their best cheap shot. Their
Allah is going to enjoy a nuclear hemorrhoidectomy. (Especially
Wahhabi) Arabia thinks it has nothing to lose this life vs. the next.
It will be massively proven to be wrong. Bush the Lesser has deficit
dumped nearly a $trillion into that sandy shithole. It is futile
against the mob. The debt must be repaid - massive taxation or
massive inflation. The only other alternative is massive war and the
spoils of war in compensation.
Uncle Al says, "Let the Marines do their job without interference.
Come back in a month to lasting peace and start pumping oil at the
true amortized wellhead cost of $1/bbl."
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As it turns out, he is off by roughly 100. The $100/bbl oil will be
here in a year or so, truly amortized or no. And who gives a *****?
If you drive a Humm V at 12 MPG, you might consider a trade-in.
"Let the Marines do their job" is a good sound byte. It didn't work
in Viet Nam and it won't work in the Middle East.
earle
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| User: "Mitch Perkins" |
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17 Feb 2005 04:36:17 PM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
Alex wrote:
How old are you Uncle Al? Your post is typical of pubescent boys.
I
was inclined to let it go as vaguely humorous or ironic but is it?
Most adults just want a quiet life, to be left to their own
devices,
have friends and love their kids. This applies to Islamic people
as
well as the secular. There is nothing there to hate. There is no
threat until everyone starts to fear everyone else.
Stick to physics Al.
Terrorism has no rules.
Bzzzt! Rule #1 -Terrorize.
Idiot.
[snip crap]
Mitch
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| User: "Van" |
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11 Feb 2005 03:16:53 AM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
Alex wrote:
How old are you Uncle Al? Your post is typical of pubescent boys.
I
was inclined to let it go as vaguely humorous or ironic but is it?
Most adults just want a quiet life, to be left to their own
devices,
have friends and love their kids. This applies to Islamic people
as
well as the secular. There is nothing there to hate. There is no
threat until everyone starts to fear everyone else.
Stick to physics Al.
Terrorism has no rules. Reprisal for terrorism abides by terrorism's
rules. Japan's undeclared attack upon a legitimate military target
was reprised with Hiroshima (payback) and Nagasaki (interest on the
debt). Islam's undeclared "stateless" attack upon the World Trade
Center killing 2800 international civilians will eventually be met
with "stateless" reprisal vaporizing Mecca and Medina - and more.
Both Russia and China have serious issue with Islam's perverse
enfatuation with murder and destruction, and share a common goal with
the US - reprisal and cauterization.
Sand niggers and dune coons gave it their best cheap shot. Their
Allah is going to enjoy a nuclear hemorrhoidectomy. (Especially
Wahhabi) Arabia thinks it has nothing to lose this life vs. the next.
It will be massively proven to be wrong. Bush the Lesser has deficit
dumped nearly a $trillion into that sandy shithole. It is futile
against the mob. The debt must be repaid - massive taxation or
massive inflation. The only other alternative is massive war and the
spoils of war in compensation.
Uncle Al says, "Let the Marines do their job without interference.
Come back in a month to lasting peace and start pumping oil at the
true amortized wellhead cost of $1/bbl."
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
With all due respect Uncle Al, everyone here in UK (and perhaps all in
the rest of the world) knows that not only the filthy "laden bin"
but also the bushy president was behind the 11th September attack on
the WTC.
Sounds absurd? (ABSURDITY, n. A statement or belief manifestly
inconsistent with one's own opinion).
Van.
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| User: "" |
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22 Feb 2005 02:46:46 PM |
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Van wrote:
With all due respect Uncle Al, everyone here in UK (and perhaps all
in
the rest of the world) knows that not only the filthy "laden bin"
but also the bushy president was behind the 11th September attack on
the WTC.
OOOOOFFFF COURSE! sci.physics is a crackpot magnet for all stripes --
including political crackpottery.
"Knowing" a false statement is the definition of delusion.
Sounds absurd?
Not really. The world really *is* that stupid (i.e., the entire human
race). It just goes to prove that humans have no intelligence.
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| User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org" |
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22 Feb 2005 09:51:38 PM |
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<whopkins@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:1109105206.434496.180420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Van wrote:
With all due respect Uncle Al, everyone here in UK (and perhaps all
in
the rest of the world) knows that not only the filthy "laden bin"
but also the bushy president was behind the 11th September attack on
the WTC.
OOOOOFFFF COURSE! sci.physics is a crackpot magnet for all stripes --
including political crackpottery.
"Knowing" a false statement is the definition of delusion.
Sounds absurd?
Not really. The world really *is* that stupid (i.e., the entire human
race). It just goes to prove that humans have no intelligence.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not
sure about the the universe." -- Einstein.
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