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"brian a m stuckless" |
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15 Mar 2006 10:23:11 PM |
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Re: Is the quantum field an aether? |
Tao wrote: >> "FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| On the one hand with special relativity Einstein got rid of
| the aether - the medium which electromagnetic waves use to
| travel and which can be used as an absolute reference system.
-=-
Einstein did not "get rid of" the fundamental medium. He just
showed it was not necessary to include it for *most* physics.
-=- SNiP -=- FrediFizzx > > http://www.vacuum-physics.com > >
I think the key change of viewpoint was that the aether looked
the same regardless of what speed you were moving, distinguishing
it from any material. What it is the the waves wave is still an
issue to many people, although -=- SNiP -=- fabric of space time.
$$ Constant AMBiENT particle COUNT; Constant VELOCiTY c/n.
$$ AMBiENT media (including Einstein's "light medium") REGULATEs
$$ the light VELOCiTY v to be CONSTANT @ CONSTANT particle COUNT.
$$
$$ VELOCiTY is a VECTOR over duration; SPEED, the PATH over duration.
o o o o
X o Q vector
o o o projection
A - - - VELOCiTY vector - -> B - - - - -> C
o o o
P o Y
o o o
ANY path.
$$ Any VELOCiTY vector can ONLY be *MEASURED* ..in retrospect.
$$ [Vector VELOCiTY (A->B)/t is iNDEPENDANT of path SPEED (A~B) / t].
$$ NOTE: Any other *iMAGiNARY* velocity, BETWEEN any OTHER TWO points
$$ (each located on the SAME path) will indicate a DiFFERENT velocity
$$ vector, albeit (even though) THAT SAME *path* clearly doN'T CHANGE.
$$ [i.e. See that VELOCiTY X->Y & P->Q are vectors, on the SAME PATH].
$$
$$ Momentum UNcertainty varies directly with STRAiGHTNESS of the PATH.
$$
$$ Physically speaking, ```Brian A M Stuckless, Ph.T (Tivity).
[p.s. DECLARiNG "no PRiOR geometry" GR *cut off* it's own WORLD-line].
Re: "Physical EMPTiNESS ..iN between POiNTs"; Fischy (2005).
Re: "The PHYSiCs of EMPTiNESS ..OUTside of POiNTs"; Fischy (2006).
Re: Is the quantum field an aether? Re: Vectors caN'T be *MEASURED*.
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| User: "brian a m stuckless" |
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| Title: Re: Is the quantum field an aether? |
16 Mar 2006 03:08:04 AM |
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$$ MOMENTUM UNcertainty varies iNVERSELY with the PATH STRAiGHTNESS.
Tao wrote: >> "FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| On the one hand with special relativity Einstein got rid of
| the aether - the medium which electromagnetic waves use to
| travel and which can be used as an absolute reference system.
-=-
Einstein did not "get rid of" the fundamental medium. He just
showed it was not necessary to include it for *most* physics.
-=- SNiP -=- FrediFizzx > > http://www.vacuum-physics.com > >
I think the key change of viewpoint was that the aether looked
the same regardless of what speed you were moving, distinguishing
it from any material.
$$ Constant AMBiENT particle COUNT; Constant VELOCiTY c/n:
$$ AMBiENT media (including Einstein's "light medium") REGULATEs
$$ the light VELOCiTY v to be CONSTANT @ CONSTANT particle COUNT.
$$
$$ VELOCiTY is a VECTOR over DURATiON; SPEED, the PATH over DURATiON":
o o o o
X o Q vector
o o o projection
A - - - VELOCiTY vector - -> B - - - - -> C
o o o
P o Y
o o o o
ANY path.
$$ Any VELOCiTY vector can ONLY be "MEASURED" ..in RETROSPECT.
$$ [Vector VELOCiTY, (A->B)/t, is iNDEPENDANT of path SPEED, (A~B)/t].
$$ NOTE: Any other *iMAGiNARY* velocity, BETWEEN any OTHER TWO points
$$ (each located on the SAME path) will indicate a DiFFERENT velocity
$$ vector, albeit (even though) THAT SAME *path* clearly doN'T CHANGE.
$$ [i.e. Note, VELOCiTiEs X->Y and P->Q are vectors on the SAME PATH].
$$
$$ Momentum UNcertainty varies iNVERSELY with the PATH's STRAiGHTNESS.
$$
$$ Physically speaking, ```Brian A M Stuckless, Ph.T (Tivity).
$$
[p.s. DECLARiNG "No PRiOR geometry" GR *cut off* it's own WORLD-line].
Re: Any SPACE-time where STUFF is CLEARLY isN'T EMPTY.!!
Re: "Physical EMPTiNESS ..iN between POiNTs"; Fischy (2005).
Re: "The PHYSiCs of EMPTiNESS ..OUTside of POiNTs"; Fischy (2006).
Re: Is the quantum field an aether? Re: Vectors caN'T be *MEASURED*.
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| User: "Halm" |
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| Title: Re: Is the quantum field an aether? |
16 Mar 2006 02:11:17 AM |
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General.
physicsts have not yet understood where the mass comes from.
but i doubt that an "ether" is responsible for that.
already the old results of the em field showed, that, if an ether would
exist, it has properties too strange to fit to the rest...
the following equ give raise to many spectulations (among non
physicists):
phase_velocity x group_velocity = c^2
but i refuse to jump in there ....
Greetings
U
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| User: "Ilja Schmelzer" |
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| Title: Re: Is the quantum field an aether? |
20 Mar 2006 06:25:22 AM |
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"Halm" <fisher.2.halmy@spamgourmet.com> schrieb
General.
physicsts have not yet understood where the mass comes from.
but i doubt that an "ether" is responsible for that.
already the old results of the em field showed, that, if an ether would
exist, it has properties too strange to fit to the rest...
Not really. Relativistic symmetry appears in a sufficiently simple
way in an ether theory. See gr-qc/0205035.
And I'm completing now my ether theory of the standard model.
The two key observations:
1. Three-dimensional Euclidean symmetry in the standard model
(without mass terms):
rotations: rotating generations as a whole
translations: adding constants to a component of right-handed neutrinos
2. Modification of fermion doubling if we leave time continuous (which
is natural in an ether theory with preferred frame):
=> 8 doublers instead onf 16
=> 2 doublers instead of 4 with staggered fermions
which allows physical interpretation.
Ilja
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