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User: "gernic"
Date: 31 Jan 2008 07:56:58 AM
Object: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated
"JSH" <jstevh@gmail.com> wrote in message
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So what I did was just add one other congruence relationship to the
traditional difference of squares:

x^2 = y^2 mod N

and

z^2 = y^2 mod T

where T is a composite to be factored coprime to N, and N is an odd
integer.

If the factors of T are unknown, how do you pick coprime N ?


The mathematics is trivially easy but many of you have decided that
there is one particular answer so you are not open to other solutions.

The factoring congruences in their most general form that I
discovered, where you have mod N, allow you to pick N as a prime and
then pick it AGAIN as a composite that is the product of two of those
primes and then compare.

The probability that you have factors of T captured is just more
trivial algebra.

Or I'm wrong.

yea, probably wrong.


If I'm right and you roll the dice, then hey, I did my best. I talked
about the result, and hey, I figured it out in steps as I'm just
realizing myself today that there is this great way to finish it all!

What about finding the other composite root?.


And later if I'm right I can talk about a group of people who like to
hurl accusations of insanity, who told the world that it was secure.

If you are right ? You said you had proof you were right. What happened?

Who try to convince other people about how smart they are while they
bully people online.

*That is what you do*, isn't it ?


I'll talk about people who say they are "pure" as an excuse.

a "pure" people.... Like a pure bread poodles.

I'll suggest that maybe these people do nothing of value, which is why
they hurl insults and accusations of insanity as they try to prevent
the world from realizing the theft.

you really should be more direct, instead of "I'll suggest..." or "maybe"
and all the weasle words you use.


And then I'll suggest that the world ask for its money back.

So, that is what you are whining about, your discovery and not getting paid
for it? Dont laet that stop you.
Just setup a foundation and ask for donations, look at SETI (a total BS
program), and they have millions, or look at HILLARY!! she has hundreds of
millions, and just because she was a guys wife. Look at NASA!
Salesmanship!!
The title to your post is great!



James Harris

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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 31 Jan 2008 12:04:14 PM
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:56:58 -0600, "gernic" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

where T is a composite to be factored coprime to N, and N is an odd
integer.


If the factors of T are unknown, how do you pick coprime N ?

You can check gcd(T, N). If the value is > 1 then you have found a
factor of T, if it is equal to 1 then N and T are coprime.
There are a number of issues with James' method, but this is not one
of them.
rossum
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User: "Mike Fleagle"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 31 Jan 2008 12:29:20 PM
"rossum" <rossum48@coldmail.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:56:58 -0600, "gernic" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

where T is a composite to be factored coprime to N, and N is an odd
integer.


If the factors of T are unknown, how do you pick coprime N ?

You can check gcd(T, N). If the value is > 1 then you have found a
factor of T, if it is equal to 1 then N and T are coprime.

There are a number of issues with James' method, but this is not one
of them.

rossum

well, gcd() is a canned function that uses (what?) to find if it is coprime
or not ?
a sieve.
So it is doomed from the start to be slow.
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 08:52:38 PM
Elliott's proclamation. All remedies which ever existed
by common law or by statute in England up to 1845 against
ownership of human beings, against every form of slavery, extend
by their own proper force and authority to Hong Kong; and, if
that were not enough, all English laws applicable to Hong Kong,
including those against ownership in human beings, were by express
Ordinances 6 of 1845, and 12 of 1873, embodied into the laws
of Hong Kong, whilst the worst forms of slavery are especially
punished by Ordinance 4 of 1865, and 2 of 1875. I am bound by
my most solemn obligations to enforce all these laws. I must,
therefore, without fear, favour or affection, discharge this duty
to the best of my ability."
CHAPTER 10.
NOT FALLEN--BUT ENSLAVED.
The Report of the Commission affords the following instructive
account of the difference in the moral and social status between the
prostitute of the East and West:
"In approaching the subject of prostitution, as it is found in
Hong Kong at the present day, it is absolutely necessary for a
full and just comprehension of it, to keep in mind two distinct
considerations. One is the almost total identity of the whole
system of prostitution, which since times immemorial is an
established institution all over the large empire of China. The
other point to be kept in mind is the radical difference
which distinguishes the personal character, the life and the
surroundings of Chinese prostitutes from all that is
characteristic of the prostitutes of Europe." ... "At the present
day the Chinese prostitutes of Hong Kong have but very little to
distinguish them, either in the past, present, or future of their
personal lives, or in their position and surroundings, from
the prostitutes of the 18 provinces of China.... Those of the
pro
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User: "Rotwang"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 31 Jan 2008 01:49:25 PM
On 31 Jan, 18:29, "Mike Fleagle" <dd...@yahoo.com> wrote:


well, gcd() is a canned function that uses (what?) to find if it is coprime
or not ?

a sieve.

No. It uses the Euclidean algorithm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclidean_algorithm
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User: "gernic"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 31 Jan 2008 02:47:18 PM
"Rotwang" <sg552@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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On 31 Jan, 18:29, "Mike Fleagle" <dd...@yahoo.com> wrote:


well, gcd() is a canned function that uses (what?) to find if it is
coprime
or not ?

a sieve.


No. It uses the Euclidean algorithm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclidean_algorithm

[Still too full of divideds and multiplies, should do it all in binary]
meanwhile.................
But the shocking part is; the open theft of historical IP.
Euclid discovered this back in 300 BC, *over 2,308 years ago*, and now
today, JSH is trying to steal Euclid's technology.
Simple theft.
The World is watching.
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 31 Jan 2008 04:06:04 PM
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:47:18 -0600, "gernic" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

[Still too full of divideds and multiplies, should do it all in binary]

Knuth, vol 2, Section 4.5.2, Algorithm B - a binary GCD method.
rossum
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User: "gernic"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 31 Jan 2008 05:37:49 PM
"rossum" <rossum48@coldmail.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:47:18 -0600, "gernic" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

[Still too full of divideds and multiplies, should do it all in binary]

Knuth, vol 2, Section 4.5.2, Algorithm B - a binary GCD method.

rossum

Better to use the time to directly find factors of the target, instead of
using libary functions that use nested loops to do the mod functions.
Knuth is good
average number of divides = 12 * log2 / pi^2 * log(n), for a random pair of
rational numbers, etc.....
http://www-lipn.univ-paris13.fr/~banderier/Seminar/vallee98.html
speed, the real meat of the factoring problem(s)
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 08:39:44 PM
Singapore
and Penang, about 91 per cent eventually sign contracts and are
made over to their employers or their agents, the majority of
these being shipped off, under escort as before to the Native
States of the Malay Peninsula or other neighboring countries, to
labour for a fixed term of years after which the coolie is free to
return to his native land or to seek such other employment as he
may see fit.
Such are the circumstances under which thousands of our fellow
beings are annually brought to the labour market at Singapore, and
it must be admitted that, to say the least of it, the system does
not seem worthy of Western nineteenth century civilization. At the
same time the extreme difficulty of controlling the 'depot and
broker system,' or even of providing an efficient substitute for
it, must be freely admitted. The system of Government contracts
and inspection of immigrants has already done something toward
ameliorating the condition of the coolie, and guarding him against
illegal detention after his arrival at Singapore or Penang. Much
more, however, remains to be done before the coolie trade will
cease to be a reproach to the Straits Settlements, and it is
doubtful whether any satisfactory reforms will be accomplished
until the Chinese Government is moved in the matter with a view to
checking the evil at the fountain head. Failing this, it would be
worth considering whether the system of "unpaid passengers" might
not advantageously be abolished, especially as this class of
immigrant represents only 11 per cent of the total immigration,
and more than one-third of the labor
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 09:39:34 PM
ages, from 10 to 20, about the
Colony for sale. I knew this defendant wanted to sell the girls,
as she asked me if I knew any woman who wanted to buy them. She
comes from Canton." A girl from Wong-Po found in No. 71 brothel,
told of being taken to Canton at eleven years of age and sold by
her sister as a servant to the Lam family. After being in this
family three or four years, her mistress and the second defendant,
Tai-Ku, a relation of her mistress and daughter to the first
defendant (A-Neung, keeper of the brothel), took her to a
"flower-boat," and the next day by steamer to Hong Kong, and she
was taken to the house of A-Neung. Her mistress stayed in the
house three days, and sold her to the first and second defendants
(mother and daughter) for $120. She added: "This was in the tenth
month last year.... I was never allowed to go out. I have never
been out of the house since I came to Hong Kong [nearly six
months]. First, second and third defendants never went out of the
house together [some one always being on guard]. Last year Tai-Ku
and A-Neung told me that I should have to go to San Francisco.
This year I was again told that I was going to San Francisco. I
said I did not want to go. Tai-Ku then beat me." Another girl
only 19 years old, married about four years, declared that in
consequence of a quarrel between herself and another wife of her
husband, he sold her to Sz-Shan, fifth defendant, for $81, who
brought her from Tamshui by steamer to Hong Kong, and took her to
A-Neung's house, where she was being held for sale. She finished
her testimony thus: "Several men have been up to the house to see
me. They were going to buy me if they liked me." A letter was
produced by the Inspector, which he found in A-Neung's house, from
Canton to the writer's sister-in-law in Hong
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 08:50:58 PM
common prostitute. The woman was discharged, indicating
that it was a trumped up case. The Commission's report, in describing
the details declares: "The law, in these two instances, was put in
motion obviously for the vilest of purposes."
In 1872, Inspector Lee, who had become an inspector in 1870, and
of whom we shall have more to say, acted himself as informer, and
employed his boy twice in the same capacity. Inspector Horton acted as
informer eleven times, and Inspector King four times. During this year
the Registrar General so far forgot that there was even a sanitary
pretext for the Ordinance for the law he was set to operate as
to employ as an informer one Vincent Greaves, whom he knew to be
diseased. From about this time on, many cases of conviction were
secured against women where it was evident the matter had gone no
further than that they had accepted the marked money of the informers,
or, as was actually proved in some cases, this marked Government money
had been secreted by the informers in the rooms occupied by women.
Inspector Lee in one instance found the money on a table in a room
into which an informer had insinuated himself. The woman denied having
ever accepted it of him, yet she was convicted on that evidence alone.
With rewards offered to men of the lowest character, who would secure
the conviction of women so that the latter could be forced into the
life of open prostitution, all the presumptive evidence should have
turned such a case as this against the informer. Many similar cases
of the conviction of women of being keepers and inmates of secret
brothels, were secured
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 08:48:58 PM
doubtless, the informer who had
thus intruded himself for the basest reasons into a native house,
might really find a woman of loose character there. It were certainly
more to the credit of such a woman that she was in hiding, and
preferred it to flaunting her shame in a licensed house of infamy.
What business have Governments hounding down these women, tearing away
their last shred of decency and obliging them if inclining to go wrong
to sink at once to the lowest depths of infamy? But that is what the
attempt to localize vice in one section of a town, or to legalize it
always means. When the informer at Hong Kong had insinuated himself
into a native house and by means of the bait of "marked money" caught
a victim and sinned with her, at once he threw open the window and
summoned the Inspector, who was in waiting outside, who would rush
in and arrest all the women and girls in the house, down to children
often only 13 or 14 years old. This was not all according to law, but
it seems to have been the regular practice. Says Mr. Lister, who was
Registrar General for t
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User: "gernic"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 06 Feb 2008 04:34:13 PM
he who ransoms and
he who prevents death are two persons, but not of Jesus Christ, who does
both these things. No, for Jesus Christ, in the quality of Redeemer, is not
perhaps Master of all; and thus, in so far as it is in Him, He is the
Redeemer of all.
When it is said that Jesus Christ did not die for all, you take undue
advantage of a fault in men who at once apply this exception to themselves;
and is to favour despair, instead of turning them from it to favour hope.
For men thus accustom themselves in inward virtues by outward customs.
782. The victory over death. "What is a man advantaged if he gain the whole
world and lose his own soul? Whosoever will save his soul, shall lose it."
"I am not come to destroy the law, but to fulfil."
"Lambs took not away the sins of the world, but I am the lamb which taketh
away the sins."
"Moses hath not led you out of captivity, and made you truly free."
783.... Then Jesus Christ comes to tell men that they have no other enemies
but themselves; that it is their passions which keep them apart from God;
that He comes to destroy these, and give them His grace, so as to make of
them all one Holy Church; that He comes to bring back into this Church the
heathen and Jews; that He comes to destroy the id
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User: "gernic"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 07:11:58 PM
my God, the Saviour whom Thou hast
promised. Salutare tuum expectabo, Domine."[110] The Egyptians were infected
both with idolatry and magic; the very people of God were led astray by
their example. Yet Moses and others believed Him whom they saw not, and
worshipped Him, looking to the eternal gifts which He was preparing for
them.
The Greeks and Latins then set up false deities; the poets made a hundred
different theologies, while the philosophers separated into a thousand
different sects; and yet in the heart of Judaea there were always chosen men
who foretold the coming of this Messiah, which was known to them alone.
He came at length in the fullness of time, and time has since witnessed the
birth of so many schisms and heresies, so many political revolutions, so
many changes in all things; yet this Church, which worships Him who has
always been worshipped, has endured uninterruptedly. It is a wonderful,
incomparable, and altogether divine fact that this religion, which has
always endured, has always been attacked. It has been a thousand times on
the eve of universal destruction, and every time it has been in that state,
God has restored it by extraordinary acts of His power. This is astonishing,
as also that it has preserved itself without yielding to the will of
tyrants. For it is not strange that a State endures, when its laws are
sometimes made to give way to necessity, but that... (See the passage
indicated in Montaigne.)[111]
614. States w
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 06:49:52 PM
not produce barmonies on these. We must know where are.
112. Inconstancy.--Things have different qualities, and the soul different
inclinations; for nothing is simple which is presented to the soul, and the
soul never presents itself simply to any object. Hence it comes that we weep
and laugh at the same thing.
113. Inconstancy and oddity.--To live only by work, and to rule over the
most powerful State in the world, are very opposite things. They are united
in the person of the great Sultan of the Turks.
114. Variety is as abundant as all tones of the voice, all ways of walking,
coughing, blowing the nose, sneezing. We distinguish vines by their fruit,
and call them the Condrien, the Desargues, and such and such a stock. Is
this all? Has a vine ever produced two bunches exactly the same, and has a
bunch two grapes alike, etc.?
I can never judge of the same thing exactly in the same way. I cannot judge
of my work, while doing it. I must do as the artists, stand at a distance,
but not too far. How far, then? Guess.
115. Variety.--Theology is a science, but at the same time how many
sciences? A man is a whole; but if we dissect him, will he be the head, the
heart, the stomach, the veins, each vein, each portion of a vein, the blood,
each humour in the blood?
A town, a country-place, is from afar a town and a country-place. But, as we
draw near, there are houses, trees, tiles, leaves, gra
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 08:40:33 PM
of the Government (as I believe he has never
yet done) any facts connected with the brothel system or the
domestic servitude of which he possesses any real knowledge."
This letter gives us some conception of the almost insuperable
difficulties Sir John Smale had to encounter in his endeavor to put
down slavery, for not a case could come up in the Superior Court for
conviction on the Judge's information, of course, for that would
be assuming both prosecuting and judicial powers, and the men who
occupied in turn that office, during Sir John Smale's incumbency,
refused to act in unison with him, and this Attorney General's
language betrays hot prejudice, lack of candor as regarded the facts,
and insolence toward Sir John Smale.
The Attorney General has a fling at the Chief Justice as
"impracticable," yet the only practical suggestion that the former
makes in his letter as to how to meet the conditions he seems to have
taken from Sir John Smale's own words upon which he was asked to
express an opinion. The Chief Justice had said:
"I think the evils complained of might be lessened,--(1) By a
better registratio
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 09:34:40 PM
wives and families to the place, supposing they would
be able to live here in peace, and to rejoice in their property.
...Chinese residents of Hong Kong have, therefore, been in
the habit of following all native customs which were not a
contravention of Chinese statute law [but it seems _this sort_ of
buying and selling of human beings is contrary to Chinese law.
This is a misrepresentation]. It is said that the whole increase
and prosperity of the Colony from its first foundation to the
present day is all based on the strength of that invitation which
Sir Charles Elliott gave to intending settlers, and that this
present intention of applying, all of a sudden, the repressive
force of the law to both the practice of buying or selling boys or
girls for purposes of adoption or for domestic servitude is not
only a violation of the rule of Sir Charles Elliott, but moreover
will, it is to be feared, not fail to trouble the people."
They speak of infanticide as an evil that
"must be classed with evils almost unavoidable. Now if the buying
of adoptive children and of servant girls is to be uniformly
abolished, it is to be feared that henceforth the practice of
infanticide will extremely increase beyond what it ever was. The
heinousness of the violation of
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User: "Mike Fleagle"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 09:39:30 PM
are common, and that he had torn down a
hundred such placards. Has Cuba or has Peru ever exhibited more
palpable, more public evidence of the existence of generally
recognized slavery in these hotbeds of slavery, than such placards
as the one I now hold in my hand, to prove that slavery exists
in this Colony? The notices have been posted in a most populous
neighborhood, and have been in all probability read--they ought
to have been, they must have been read--by scores of our Chinese
policemen.
"Important as this Colony is, politically and commercially, it is
but a dot in the ocean; its area is about half that of the county
of Rutland; the circumference of this island is calculated at
about 27 miles, whilst that of the Isle of Wight is about 56
miles. The cultivated land on this island may be to the barren
waste about one-half per cent, and there is no agrarian slavery
here in nearly the total absence of farms, and on this dot in the
ocean it is estimated that the slave population has reached ten
thousand souls! I first became fully alive to the existence of
so-called domestic slavery in this Colony at the Criminal Sessions
in May last, on the trial of two cases.... But it is said that
what is called domestic slavery, as it exists in Hong Kong, is
mild, and it is said to be the opinion of a gentleman of great
experience in Chinese, that, as it exists here, it is not contrary
to the Christian religion, and that it is as general a fashion
for Chinese ladies in Hong Kong to purchase one or more girls to
attend on them as it is for English ladies to hire ladies'
maids, and that the custom is so general that it would be highly
impolitic, if not impossible, to put down the system. It may be
that slavery as i
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User: "Mike Fleagle"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 06 Feb 2008 05:02:49 PM
from the natural order of things during so long a
space of years, they have nevertheless been preserved (and this preservation
has been foretold); and extending from the earliest times to the latest,
their history comprehends in its duration all our histories which it
preceded by a long time.
The law by which this people is governed is at once the most ancient law in
the world, the most perfect, and the only one which has been always observed
without a break in a state. This is what Josephus admirably proves, Against
Apion, and also Philo the Jew, in different places, where they point out
that it is so ancient that the very name of law was only known by the oldest
nation more than a thousand years afterwards; so that Homer, who has written
the history of so many states, has never used the term. And it is easy to
judge of its perfection by simply reading it; for we see that it has
provided for all things with so great wisdom, equity, and judgement, that
the most ancient legislators, Greek and Roman, having had some knowledge of
it, have borrowed from it their principal laws; this is evident from what
are called the Twelve Tables, and from the other proofs which Josephus
gives.
But this law is at the same time the severest and strictest of all in
respect to their religious worship, imposing on this people, in order to
keep them to their duty, a thousand peculiar and painful observances, on
pain of death. Whence it is very astonishing that it has been constantly
preserved during many centuries by a people, rebellious and impatient as
this one was; while all other states have changed their laws from time to
time, although these were far more lenient.
The book which contains this law, the first of a
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User: "Mike Fleagle"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 08:51:01 PM
of every sort of offense against
the sanctity of the marriage relation.
But after all, there will be no success in attempting to cope with
Oriental prostitution by means of laws against prostitution and
kindred vices, for the reason that the evil is a far graver one than
this. Innocent children are reared for vice, and at a certain age
thrust into the life through no choice of theirs; and not infrequently
perfectly respectable women of mature years are kidnaped for the vile
service. The effect upon the moral character of a man who resorts to
a _slave_ class of victims to his evil propensities, must be to make
that man a menace to society wherever he goes, through deeds of
violence which he is willing to commit, and accustomed to commit, of
the worst imaginable sort.
And an attack upon the slave _traffic_ alone will never prove
adequate. The history of our country's dealing with negro slavery
is instructive on this point. There were laws in abundance for the
suppression of the _traffic_ between Africa a
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 07:44:56 PM
of finding truth; to be free from
passions, and ready to follow it where he may find it, knowing how much his
knowledge is obscured by the passions. I would, indeed, that he should hate
in himself the lust which determined his will by itself so that it may not
blind him in making his choice, and may not hinder him when he has chosen.
424. All these contradictions, which seem most to keep me from the knowledge
of religion, have led me most quickly to the true one.
SECTION VII: MORALITY AND DOCTRINE
425. Second part.--That man without faith cannot know the true good, nor
justice.
All men seek happiness. This is without exception. Whatever different means
they employ, they all tend to this end. The cause of some going to war, and
of others avoiding it, is the same desire in both, attended with different
views. The will never takes the least step but to this object. This is the
motive of every action of every man, even of those who hang themselves.
And yet, after such a great number of years, no one without faith has
reached the point to which all continually look. All complain, princes and
subjects, noblemen and commoners, old and young, strong an
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 08:52:19 PM
paid for a wife, whilst he has received the girl's services
for simple maintenance; so that, according to the marriageable
excess in the price of the bride over the price he paid for the
girl, he is a gainer, and the purchase of the child produces a
good return. But the picture has another aspect. What, if the
master is brutal, or the mistress jealous, becomes of the poor
girl? Certain recent cases show that she is sold to become a
prostitute here or at Singapore or in California, a fate often
worse than death to the girl, at a highly remunerative price to
the brute, the master. It seems to me that all slavery, domestic,
agrarian, or for immoral purposes, comes within one and the same
category."
Every word uttered on this occasion by Sir John Smale, Chief Justice,
has value, but it is impossible for us to quote it all. Referring to
the purchase of kidnaped children from the kidnapers by well-to-do
Chinese residents of Hong Kong, without effort on the part of these
purchasers to ascertain from whence the children came, he says:
"In each of these cases I requested the prosecution of these
well-to-do persons, purchasers of these human chattels, who had
bought these children, whose money had occasioned the kidnaping,
just as a receiver of stolen goods buys stolen property without
due or any inquiry to verify the patent lies of the vendors. I
have reason to believe that H.E. the Governor was desirous that my
request should, if proper, be complied with; but on reference to
former cases it appeared that a former Attorney-General had found
that the s
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User: "rossum"

Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 09:36:39 PM
them. They said that white men as well as Chinese came to their
place. After this we walked the length of the several streets and
side-streets, in the near vicinity, and proved the truth of what
the men had told us as to the swarming numbers of degraded girls
and women.
"The next night we went to the same neighborhood, and revisited
the two places already mentioned, and others also. As we reached
the top of the stairway and passed into the front room of the
place where they had invited us to return, there was quite a
flutter of excitement, and we instantly saw that there was
a number of girls present, all very young, and several mere
children. On our left a fat, middle-aged Chinese man sat, with two
or three little girls, one in his lap and one on either side of
him, in his arms; two more were throwing something that resembled
dice on a table within the front alcove, and the rest were sitting
on the opium couches. There were ten girls in all; the two
youngest could not possibly have been mo
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Title: Re: JSH: When knowledge is hated 05 Feb 2008 06:48:19 PM
to recognise what is true, one has only to look at what has always existed;
for it is certain that truth has always existed, and that nothing false has
always existed.
858. The history of the Church ought properly to be called the history of
truth.
859. There is a pleasure in being in a ship beaten about by a storm, when we
are sure that it will not founder. The persecutions which harass the Church
are of this nature.
860. In addition to so many other signs of piety, they are also persecuted,
which is the best sign of piety.
861. The Church is in an excellent state when it is sustained by God only.
862. The Church has always been attacked by opposite errors, but perhaps
never at the same time, as now. And if she suffer more because of the
multiplicity of errors, she derives this advantage from it, that they
destroy each other.
She complains of both, but far more of the Calvinists, because of the
schism.
It is certain that many of the two opposite sects are deceived. They must be
disillusioned.
Faith embraces many truths which seem to contradict each other. There is a
time to laugh, and time to weep, etc. Responde. Ne respondeas,215 etc.
The source of this is the union of the two natures in Jesus Christ; and also
the two worlds (the creation of a new heaven and a new earth; a new life and
a new death; all things double, and the same names remaining); and finally
the two natures that are in the righteous (for they are the two worlds, and
a member and image of Jesus Christ. And thus all the names suit them:
righteous, yet sinners; dead, yet living; living, yet dead; elect, yet
outcast, etc.).
There are then a great number of truths, both of faith and of morality,
which seem contradictory and which all hold good togeth
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