Science > Physics > Re: Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 19, 2005
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"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" |
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19 Sep 2005 10:36:02 PM |
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Re: Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 19, 2005 |
In any case, those painful little steps in discovery mean nothing, since the
pioneering spirit does not exist anymore.
Pioneers i.e. those who open the way are completely ridiculed by those who
follow with greater means & material. As an example the gallant French
prospector who discovered the Great Sandy Desert immense richness in
Australia, by doing the whole prospecting on foot is ridicule by the very
people who profit by his discoveries now. It's so easy to consider the Great
Sandy Desert from the altitude of helicopter or a jet, and further the mines
are just down there... so evident to find with their runways, plants &
facilities !
Likewise the dangerous & lengthy exploration of the planet Mars now, will
seem ridiculously evident for those coming later with technology making Mars
a mere 3 hours flight time from planet Earth ( a system of such evidence
that implementing it will be made within the next 5 years) & especially with
the superior intelligence imparted by the True Geology giving them insight
that Mars is exactly as the Earth will be one day. Or in other words what is
on Mars is what is on Earth with a few millions years of drift & weathering
to account for. The damned stupidity of the Universalities Hierarchy, and of
their brainwashed pupils, is the main hurdle toward a clear enlightening of
both Mankind and Earth History.
With kindest regards
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Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Founder of the True Geology
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
<baalke@earthlink.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
1127160895.903408.193100@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity
OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Erebus Bound - sol 580-585, Sept 19, 2005:
Opportunity has resumed normal operations this week. The rover is
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| User: "CWatters" |
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| Title: Re: Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 19, 2005 |
20 Sep 2005 08:20:08 AM |
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"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer@remove.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dgo0kd$csj$1@apollon.grec.isp.9tel.net...
Likewise the dangerous & lengthy exploration of the planet Mars now,
will
seem ridiculously evident for those coming later with technology making
Mars
a mere 3 hours flight time from planet Earth
Any chance you could calculate the g forces that a passenger would be
exposed to if a 3 hour trip to mars were possible?
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| User: "Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" |
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| Title: Re: Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 19, 2005 |
20 Sep 2005 12:13:18 PM |
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"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> a écrit dans le message de news:
c0UXe.281$EI1.139401@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer@remove.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dgo0kd$csj$1@apollon.grec.isp.9tel.net...
Likewise the dangerous & lengthy exploration of the planet Mars now,
will
seem ridiculously evident for those coming later with technology making
Mars
a mere 3 hours flight time from planet Earth
Any chance you could calculate the g forces that a passenger would be
exposed to if a 3 hour trip to mars were possible?
Yes !
None !
There are more wonder below heaven that you can conceive, Sir !
--
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Founder of the True Geology
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
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| User: "CWatters" |
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| Title: Re: Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 19, 2005 |
21 Sep 2005 01:58:12 AM |
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"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer@remove.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dgpgl5$mc6$1@aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net...
Any chance you could calculate the g forces that a passenger would be
exposed to if a 3 hour trip to mars were possible?
Yes !
None !
There are more wonder below heaven that you can conceive, Sir !
Oh I can conceive ok. I'm having problems with the implementation. Mostly I
just get increased mass around the waistline.
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| User: "Eljin" |
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| Title: Re: Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 19, 2005 |
22 Sep 2005 12:54:23 AM |
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Could we please stop thinking in terms of brute force rocketry? Most
people stop playing with those as kids.
If you control the gravity well you are riding on, then you are no
longer affected by external G forces. The tree hour time limit he
mentioned has to do with the transit times in atmosphere and the initial
buildup and power down of the transit system itself. At our current
level of technology it takes time to build up the required energy to
produce a stable field.
I am of course making the assumption that a gravitic drive system is
what he is remarking upon. There is always the idea of an inertial
compensation system being used against a normal reaction drive.
It is humorous to note that, as our technology progresses, it is
becoming more difficult to write good science fiction. Space operas are
becoming the norm and what was thought to be far ahead of its time ten
years ago is now just around the corner.
Sorry, but I could not pass up the opportunity to inject my two cents
worth. :-)
Eljin
CWatters wrote:
"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer@remove.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dgpgl5$mc6$1@aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net...
Any chance you could calculate the g forces that a passenger would be
exposed to if a 3 hour trip to mars were possible?
Yes !
None !
There are more wonder below heaven that you can conceive, Sir !
Oh I can conceive ok. I'm having problems with the implementation. Mostly I
just get increased mass around the waistline.
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| User: "CWatters" |
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| Title: Re: Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 19, 2005 |
22 Sep 2005 12:10:28 PM |
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"Eljin" <ljohnson@accessnet.com> wrote in message
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Could we please stop thinking in terms of brute force rocketry? Most
people stop playing with those as kids.
If you control the gravity well you are riding on, then you are no
longer affected by external G forces.
Dam. Why didn't I think of that :-)
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| User: "Eljin" |
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| Title: Re: Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 19, 2005 |
23 Sep 2005 06:03:48 PM |
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Yeah , but here's the rub...
Are we able to do that yet? Outside of a good Science Fiction story that
is...
Daydream ..... Daydream....
Scotty where's that damn power I asked you for?
If it was up your @#$ you'd know it Capn'...
WHOOPS! wrong daydream!
CWatters wrote:
"Eljin" <ljohnson@accessnet.com> wrote in message
news:d_rYe.16481$nq.7855@lakeread05...
Could we please stop thinking in terms of brute force rocketry? Most
people stop playing with those as kids.
If you control the gravity well you are riding on, then you are no
longer affected by external G forces.
Dam. Why didn't I think of that :-)
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| User: "Phil Hays" |
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| Title: Re: Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 19, 2005 |
20 Sep 2005 10:00:31 AM |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:20:08 GMT, "CWatters"
<colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote:
"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer@remove.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dgo0kd$csj$1@apollon.grec.isp.9tel.net...
Likewise the dangerous & lengthy exploration of the planet Mars now,
will
seem ridiculously evident for those coming later with technology making
Mars
a mere 3 hours flight time from planet Earth
Any chance you could calculate the g forces that a passenger would be
exposed to if a 3 hour trip to mars were possible?
Accelerate for half the time, cover half the distance.
Total today is 85 million km
d = 1/2 a t^2
a = 2 * d / t ^ 2
a = 85000000000/2 * 2/ (.5 * 3 hours * 60 hours/min * 60 min/sec)^2
a = 2914.9 m/s
That's not so bad. 300 Gs.
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Caution: Contents may contain sarcasm.
Phil Hays
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| User: "jacob navia" |
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| Title: Re: Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 19, 2005 |
20 Sep 2005 12:43:58 PM |
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Phil Hays wrote:
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:20:08 GMT, "CWatters"
<colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote:
"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer@remove.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dgo0kd$csj$1@apollon.grec.isp.9tel.net...
Likewise the dangerous & lengthy exploration of the planet Mars now,
will
seem ridiculously evident for those coming later with technology making
Mars
a mere 3 hours flight time from planet Earth
Any chance you could calculate the g forces that a passenger would be
exposed to if a 3 hour trip to mars were possible?
Accelerate for half the time, cover half the distance.
Total today is 85 million km
d = 1/2 a t^2
a = 2 * d / t ^ 2
a = 85000000000/2 * 2/ (.5 * 3 hours * 60 hours/min * 60 min/sec)^2
a = 2914.9 m/s
That's not so bad. 300 Gs.
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Caution: Contents may contain sarcasm.
Phil Hays
If the passanger weights 70 Kg, with 300 g it will weight
21 Tons. It will be reduced to a thin sheet of fluid some
milimeters thick.
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