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Science > Physics |
| User: |
"Bruce Scott TOK" |
| Date: |
24 Aug 2006 06:01:37 AM |
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Re: Net Kooks |
i had an interesting conversation with a clinical psychologist the other
day -- he's done a lot of work with people like Androcles and Hammond, both
net kooks and people not on the web.
he says that these people create a 'closed system' that can't be penetrated
even by individual psychotherapy -- that the only way into their world is
through group therapy with an experienced leader and that even then the
results aren't consistent.
just thought that was interesting.
It is... I should think the first thing these people need is to be
confronted, regularly and close-up, with the reality that there are
countless others out there just like themselves. That can only be done
in group therapy. Does the psychologist use this particular awareness
(nonuniqueness of each particular subject) as part of his work?
--
ciao,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: Net Kooks |
24 Aug 2006 07:22:26 AM |
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"Bruce Scott TOK" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
message news:200608241101.k7OB1bZV019997@ipp.mpg.de...
| >i had an interesting conversation with a clinical psychologist the other
| >day -- he's done a lot of work with people like Androcles and Hammond,
both
| >net kooks and people not on the web.
| >
| >he says that these people create a 'closed system' that can't be
penetrated
| >even by individual psychotherapy -- that the only way into their world is
| >through group therapy with an experienced leader and that even then the
| >results aren't consistent.
| >
| >just thought that was interesting.
|
| It is... I should think the first thing these people need is to be
| confronted, regularly and close-up, with the reality that there are
| countless others out there just like themselves. That can only be done
| in group therapy. Does the psychologist use this particular awareness
| (nonuniqueness of each particular subject) as part of his work?
|
|
| --
| ciao,
| Bruce
The "closed system" of the kook is typified by Dork Van de merde and
Phuckwit Duck, with thousands of relativists like them that refuse to think
logically, simply because they cannot.
They are as sheep, all eating the same grass and bleating with one voice.
"Baaaa".
I should think the first thing these people need is to be confronted,
regularly and close-up, with the reality that there are countless others
out there just like themselves. That could NOT be done by group therapy
but by individual counselling, the latter being more effective on the hive
mind.
Does the psychologist use this particular awareness
(nonuniqueness of each particular subject) as part of his work, or is he
a ***** sheep too?
caio,
Androcles
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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| Title: Re: Net Kooks |
24 Aug 2006 11:05:54 AM |
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"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_a> wrote in message news:6SgHg.142197$9d4.112162@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
"Bruce Scott TOK" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
message news:200608241101.k7OB1bZV019997@ipp.mpg.de...
| >i had an interesting conversation with a clinical psychologist the other
| >day -- he's done a lot of work with people like Androcles and Hammond,
both
| >net kooks and people not on the web.
| >
| >he says that these people create a 'closed system' that can't be
penetrated
| >even by individual psychotherapy -- that the only way into their world is
| >through group therapy with an experienced leader and that even then the
| >results aren't consistent.
| >
| >just thought that was interesting.
|
| It is... I should think the first thing these people need is to be
| confronted, regularly and close-up, with the reality that there are
| countless others out there just like themselves. That can only be done
| in group therapy. Does the psychologist use this particular awareness
| (nonuniqueness of each particular subject) as part of his work?
|
|
| --
| ciao,
| Bruce
The "closed system" of the kook is typified by Dork Van de merde and
Phuckwit Duck, with thousands of relativists like them that refuse to think
logically, simply because they cannot.
You mean think logically, simply like in
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Gibberish.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XOROnceMore.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORrevisited.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORContinued.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORpersistence.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LooksBoolean.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORWildStab.html
?
I agree, that is very difficult. But it's a good that that it is
so funny, don't you think?
They are as sheep, all eating the same grass and bleating with one voice.
"Baaaa".
Baaaalogic you mean?
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: Net Kooks |
24 Aug 2006 11:16:53 AM |
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"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote
in message news:C7kHg.38786$Aq3.552059@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
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| "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_a> wrote in message
news:6SgHg.142197$9d4.112162@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| >
| > "Bruce Scott TOK" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
| > message news:200608241101.k7OB1bZV019997@ipp.mpg.de...
| > | >i had an interesting conversation with a clinical psychologist the
other
| > | >day -- he's done a lot of work with people like Androcles and
Hammond,
| > both
| > | >net kooks and people not on the web.
| > | >
| > | >he says that these people create a 'closed system' that can't be
| > penetrated
| > | >even by individual psychotherapy -- that the only way into their
world is
| > | >through group therapy with an experienced leader and that even then
the
| > | >results aren't consistent.
| > | >
| > | >just thought that was interesting.
| > |
| > | It is... I should think the first thing these people need is to be
| > | confronted, regularly and close-up, with the reality that there are
| > | countless others out there just like themselves. That can only be
done
| > | in group therapy. Does the psychologist use this particular awareness
| > | (nonuniqueness of each particular subject) as part of his work?
| > |
| > |
| > | --
| > | ciao,
| > | Bruce
| >
| > The "closed system" of the kook is typified by Dork Van de merde and
| > Phuckwit Duck, with thousands of relativists like them that refuse to
think
| > logically, simply because they cannot.
|
| You mean think logically, simply like in
| "What is this?
| Some kind of quote of some post?
| An introduction to the ***** you produce later on?
| ***** that you expect someone will bother reading?"-- Dork Van de merde
| on a quote of Einstein.
Yeah, that's what I mean, *****.
Androcles
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: Net Kooks, take 2 |
24 Aug 2006 04:07:55 PM |
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Net Kooks:
http://www.usenetarchive.org/Dir1/File490.html
Paul B. Andersen:
| I am claiming that with interferometer radio telescopes both
| the frequency and the wavelength of the wave are measured with
| extreme precision.
Henry Wilson:
| How is the 'frequency' actually measured, Paul?
| Please answer. Don't snip.
Paul B. Andersen:
| Actually I have a hard time believing that you are serious.
| But OK.
| We are talking about interferometer radio telescopes like the VLA.
| Each element (of 27) is a 25m parabolic disk antenna with a receiver.
| Very low noise, cooled to below 15K, etc.)
| If we are talking about the 21cm band, the frequency is about 1.42GHz.
| There is obviously no information about the wavelength of anything
| in this signal, it is a voltage varying with time, v(t). If a single
frequency
| is received, then the number of cycles per time unit can in principle
be
| counted directly, which is no problem to do at this frequency.
Got that, folks:
frequency is about 1.42GHz, measured with extreme precision.
There is no problem counting at 1.42 GHz (in principle)... with extreme
precision, using a caesium clock, for example:
The second is the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation
corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the
ground state of the cesium 133 atom. - NIST.
It is very easy to count 6.473684345 ticks of a caesium clock.
Now THAT is a net kook.
Androcles
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| User: "Ahmed Ouahi, Architect" |
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| Title: Re: Net Kooks |
24 Aug 2006 06:37:41 AM |
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However, yourself, you do talk exactly like any totalitarian system, when
they do remark that a people becomes to understand more their ***** and
becomes to see clearly the life evolution.
Therefore, they do say to them that they do have to make more psychologists
as to arrive to end it by installing a police state all along.
Finally, that a people becomes more and more frighten from each other and
from anything which it does move and anything which it does not move
neither, simply as that.
--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Think About That!
"Bruce Scott TOK" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
message news:200608241101.k7OB1bZV019997@ipp.mpg.de...
i had an interesting conversation with a clinical psychologist the other
day -- he's done a lot of work with people like Androcles and Hammond,
both
net kooks and people not on the web.
he says that these people create a 'closed system' that can't be
penetrated
even by individual psychotherapy -- that the only way into their world is
through group therapy with an experienced leader and that even then the
results aren't consistent.
just thought that was interesting.
It is... I should think the first thing these people need is to be
confronted, regularly and close-up, with the reality that there are
countless others out there just like themselves. That can only be done
in group therapy. Does the psychologist use this particular awareness
(nonuniqueness of each particular subject) as part of his work?
--
ciao,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
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