Science > Physics > Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic.
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07 Sep 2006 06:14:50 PM |
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Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
Henri Wilson wrote:
This is just a theory.
Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we measure are
really logarithmic?
No.
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| User: "Greg Hansen" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
08 Sep 2006 09:36:50 PM |
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Henri Wilson wrote:
This is just a theory.
Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we measure are
really logarithmic?
What would it mean for distances to be logarithmic? Logarithmic in what
variable? We presume that a ruler here would also work over there. If
space were logarithmic, would that mean a ruler would measure one foot
here and 1.44 feet over there?
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
08 Sep 2006 10:05:33 PM |
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"Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
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|> Henri Wilson wrote:
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| >>This is just a theory.
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| >>Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we
measure are
| >>really logarithmic?
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| What would it mean for distances to be logarithmic? Logarithmic in what
| variable? We presume that a ruler here would also work over there. If
| space were logarithmic, would that mean a ruler would measure one foot
| here and 1.44 feet over there?
He's off his rocker, groping at straws to prop up his theory.
He wrote a program to model orbits, but his orbits are all
seen edge-on so he computes distances to stars as 0.3 light years.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
Androcles.
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| User: "Wilson" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
10 Sep 2006 06:15:05 AM |
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:05:33 GMT, "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
wrote:
"Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
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|> Henri Wilson wrote:
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| >>This is just a theory.
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| >>Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we
measure are
| >>really logarithmic?
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| What would it mean for distances to be logarithmic? Logarithmic in what
| variable? We presume that a ruler here would also work over there. If
| space were logarithmic, would that mean a ruler would measure one foot
| here and 1.44 feet over there?
He's off his rocker, groping at straws to prop up his theory.
He wrote a program to model orbits, but his orbits are all
seen edge-on so he computes distances to stars as 0.3 light years.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
You keep out of this...you don't understand.
Androcles.
HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
You can burn all yer books!
Space is logarithmic.
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
10 Sep 2006 07:09:33 AM |
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"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
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| On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:05:33 GMT, "Sorcerer"
<Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
| wrote:
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| >"Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
| >news:450228C2.8050405@tcq.net...
| >|> Henri Wilson wrote:
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| >| >>This is just a theory.
| >| >>
| >| >>Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we
| >measure are
| >| >>really logarithmic?
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| >| What would it mean for distances to be logarithmic? Logarithmic in
what
| >| variable? We presume that a ruler here would also work over there. If
| >| space were logarithmic, would that mean a ruler would measure one foot
| >| here and 1.44 feet over there?
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| >He's off his rocker, groping at straws to prop up his theory.
| >He wrote a program to model orbits, but his orbits are all
| >seen edge-on so he computes distances to stars as 0.3 light years.
| >
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
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| You keep out of this...you don't understand.
| You can burn all yer books!
I WROTE the book.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Copernicus/LightCurveVariations.htm
Your pathetic copy cannot reproduce V 1493 Aql, even edge-on.
| Space is logarithmic.
Go back to golf, try to get a birdie on a par 1.6094379.
Androcles
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| User: "Wilson" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
10 Sep 2006 06:21:51 PM |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:09:33 GMT, "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
wrote:
"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
news:mes7g2lttqfc1l6o4d6s4n1a69nd9ih7v8@4ax.com...
| On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:05:33 GMT, "Sorcerer"
<Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
| wrote:
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| >"Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
| >news:450228C2.8050405@tcq.net...
| >|> Henri Wilson wrote:
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| >| >>This is just a theory.
| >| >>
| >| >>Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we
| >measure are
| >| >>really logarithmic?
| >|
| >| What would it mean for distances to be logarithmic? Logarithmic in
what
| >| variable? We presume that a ruler here would also work over there. If
| >| space were logarithmic, would that mean a ruler would measure one foot
| >| here and 1.44 feet over there?
| >
| >He's off his rocker, groping at straws to prop up his theory.
| >He wrote a program to model orbits, but his orbits are all
| >seen edge-on so he computes distances to stars as 0.3 light years.
| >
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
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| You keep out of this...you don't understand.
| You can burn all yer books!
I WROTE the book.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Copernicus/LightCurveVariations.htm
Not bad for a beginner.
You don't need 1 million points, 30000 is ample....and you don't need a filter
if you use double precision numbers and my method of generating ellipses. I use
500 divisions for printing because that's enough to display the curves quite
smoothly over two or three orbits..
If you could understand why only edge on orbits are required for all of this,
your task would be a lot easier.
If you accepted that multiple images are rarely if ever created and observed,
you might also realise that my unification theory is the only sound explanation
for this. (apart from log space)
Your pathetic copy cannot reproduce V 1493 Aql, even edge-on.
I have shown how it can be produced in a number of ways...but there is not
enough info in the curve to permit a definite explanation.
| Space is logarithmic.
Go back to golf, try to get a birdie on a par 1.6094379.
I once had a square root on a par four...about 9 pm.
Androcles
HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
You can burn all yer books!
Space is logarithmic.
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
10 Sep 2006 07:46:33 PM |
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"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
news:1769g2p397dfmabt6ge74m799kvr867vtr@4ax.com...
| On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:09:33 GMT, "Sorcerer"
<Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
| wrote:
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| >"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
| >news:mes7g2lttqfc1l6o4d6s4n1a69nd9ih7v8@4ax.com...
| >| On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:05:33 GMT, "Sorcerer"
| ><Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
| >| wrote:
| >|
| >| >
| >| >"Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
| >| >news:450228C2.8050405@tcq.net...
| >| >|> Henri Wilson wrote:
| >| >| >
| >| >| >>This is just a theory.
| >| >| >>
| >| >| >>Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we
| >| >measure are
| >| >| >>really logarithmic?
| >| >|
| >| >| What would it mean for distances to be logarithmic? Logarithmic in
| >what
| >| >| variable? We presume that a ruler here would also work over there.
If
| >| >| space were logarithmic, would that mean a ruler would measure one
foot
| >| >| here and 1.44 feet over there?
| >| >
| >| >He's off his rocker, groping at straws to prop up his theory.
| >| >He wrote a program to model orbits, but his orbits are all
| >| >seen edge-on so he computes distances to stars as 0.3 light years.
| >| >
| >| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
| >|
| >| You keep out of this...you don't understand.
| >| You can burn all yer books!
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| >I WROTE the book.
| >
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Copernicus/LightCurveVariations.htm
Jealous tirade snipped.
| >Your pathetic copy cannot reproduce V 1493 Aql, even edge-on.
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| I have shown how
I don't give a ***** HOW you do it, YOU can't reproduce a row of
red dots in top of http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
with a flat line along the bottom, and I can.
| >| Space is logarithmic.
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| >Go back to golf, try to get a birdie on a par 1.6094379.
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| I once had a square root on a par four...about 9 pm.
You mean you got a hole-in-0.69314718 at about 8,103.084 pm?
You should publish that, time is exponential.
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| >Androcles
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| User: "Wilson" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
11 Sep 2006 02:22:22 AM |
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 00:46:33 GMT, "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
wrote:
"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
news:1769g2p397dfmabt6ge74m799kvr867vtr@4ax.com...
| On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:09:33 GMT, "Sorcerer"
<Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
| >| You keep out of this...you don't understand.
| >| You can burn all yer books!
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| >I WROTE the book.
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http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Copernicus/LightCurveVariations.htm
Jealous tirade snipped.
So you're copying Andersen's tactics now, eh?
| >Your pathetic copy cannot reproduce V 1493 Aql, even edge-on.
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| I have shown how
I don't give a ***** HOW you do it, YOU can't reproduce a row of
red dots in top of http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
with a flat line along the bottom, and I can.
I told you, there is nowhere near enough info in that graph to tell us
anything.
I can produce something similar in several ways.
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| >Androcles
HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
You can burn all yer books!
Space is logarithmic.
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
11 Sep 2006 04:23:23 AM |
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"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
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| On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 00:46:33 GMT, "Sorcerer"
<Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
| wrote:
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| >"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
| >news:1769g2p397dfmabt6ge74m799kvr867vtr@4ax.com...
| >| On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:09:33 GMT, "Sorcerer"
| ><Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
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| >| >| You keep out of this...you don't understand.
| >| >| You can burn all yer books!
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| >| >I WROTE the book.
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http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Copernicus/LightCurveVariations.htm
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| >Jealous tirade snipped.
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| So you're copying Andersen's tactics now, eh?
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| >| >Your pathetic copy cannot reproduce V 1493 Aql, even edge-on.
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| >| I have shown how
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| >I don't give a ***** HOW you do it, YOU can't reproduce a row of
| >red dots in top of http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
| >with a flat line along the bottom, and I can.
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| I told
I told you, you are a useless *****.
Androcles.
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| User: "Greg Hansen" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
09 Sep 2006 08:14:51 AM |
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Sorcerer wrote:
"Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
news:450228C2.8050405@tcq.net...
|> Henri Wilson wrote:
| >
| >>This is just a theory.
| >>
| >>Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we
measure are
| >>really logarithmic?
|
| What would it mean for distances to be logarithmic? Logarithmic in what
| variable? We presume that a ruler here would also work over there. If
| space were logarithmic, would that mean a ruler would measure one foot
| here and 1.44 feet over there?
He's off his rocker, groping at straws to prop up his theory.
He wrote a program to model orbits, but his orbits are all
seen edge-on so he computes distances to stars as 0.3 light years.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
Androcles.
That doesn't sound promising.
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
09 Sep 2006 08:45:57 AM |
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"Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
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| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
| > news:450228C2.8050405@tcq.net...
| > |> Henri Wilson wrote:
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| > | >>This is just a theory.
| > | >>
| > | >>Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we
| > measure are
| > | >>really logarithmic?
| > |
| > | What would it mean for distances to be logarithmic? Logarithmic in
what
| > | variable? We presume that a ruler here would also work over there.
If
| > | space were logarithmic, would that mean a ruler would measure one foot
| > | here and 1.44 feet over there?
| >
| > He's off his rocker, groping at straws to prop up his theory.
| > He wrote a program to model orbits, but his orbits are all
| > seen edge-on so he computes distances to stars as 0.3 light years.
| >
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
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| > Androcles.
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| That doesn't sound promising.
It may be senile dementia, he wasn't this bad seven years ago. Not
much we can do for that, unfortunately.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm
Androcles
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| User: "Wilson" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
10 Sep 2006 06:17:27 AM |
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 13:45:57 GMT, "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
wrote:
"Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
news:eduem601rl4@enews1.newsguy.com...
| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
| > news:450228C2.8050405@tcq.net...
| > |> Henri Wilson wrote:
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| > | >>This is just a theory.
| > | >>
| > | >>Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we
| > measure are
| > | >>really logarithmic?
| > |
| > | What would it mean for distances to be logarithmic? Logarithmic in
what
| > | variable? We presume that a ruler here would also work over there.
If
| > | space were logarithmic, would that mean a ruler would measure one foot
| > | here and 1.44 feet over there?
| >
| > He's off his rocker, groping at straws to prop up his theory.
| > He wrote a program to model orbits, but his orbits are all
| > seen edge-on so he computes distances to stars as 0.3 light years.
| >
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
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| > Androcles.
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| That doesn't sound promising.
It may be senile dementia, he wasn't this bad seven years ago. Not
much we can do for that, unfortunately.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm
Androcles
At my universities we always regarded engineers as failed physicists..
HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
You can burn all yer books!
Space is logarithmic.
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
10 Sep 2006 07:13:35 AM |
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"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
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| On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 13:45:57 GMT, "Sorcerer"
<Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b>
| wrote:
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| >"Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
| >news:eduem601rl4@enews1.newsguy.com...
| >| Sorcerer wrote:
| >| > "Greg Hansen" <glhansen@tcq.net> wrote in message
| >| > news:450228C2.8050405@tcq.net...
| >| > |> Henri Wilson wrote:
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| >| > | >>This is just a theory.
| >| > | >>
| >| > | >>Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we
| >| > measure are
| >| > | >>really logarithmic?
| >| > |
| >| > | What would it mean for distances to be logarithmic? Logarithmic in
| >what
| >| > | variable? We presume that a ruler here would also work over there.
| >If
| >| > | space were logarithmic, would that mean a ruler would measure one
foot
| >| > | here and 1.44 feet over there?
| >| >
| >| > He's off his rocker, groping at straws to prop up his theory.
| >| > He wrote a program to model orbits, but his orbits are all
| >| > seen edge-on so he computes distances to stars as 0.3 light years.
| >| >
| >| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
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| >| > Androcles.
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| >| That doesn't sound promising.
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| >It may be senile dementia, he wasn't this bad seven years ago. Not
| >much we can do for that, unfortunately.
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm
| >Androcles
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| At my universities we always regarded engineers as failed physicists..
We regard physicists as failed engineers, but then, you are all upside
down in Oz.
We let them write papers, we don't let them build anything.
Steven Hawking was found guilty of social injustice from Sussex U
when he refused a beer I offered, and now has stay in Cambridge.
Incredible, an Englishman refusing a free pint! How stupid is that?
Androcles.
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
10 Sep 2006 10:59:37 PM |
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Eric Gisse wrote:
Henri Wilson wrote:
This is just a theory.
Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we measure are
really logarithmic?
No.
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Bravo bump parasite for your initiative to open a nre thread
anyway idiot
space is not curved and not shmerved
the curved motion only in cases it is
is a propwerty of some basic particles
bye idiotic parrot bump parasite
Y.Porat
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| User: "Wilson" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
11 Sep 2006 02:23:32 AM |
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On 10 Sep 2006 20:59:37 -0700, "Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote:
Eric Gisse wrote:
Henri Wilson wrote:
This is just a theory.
Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we measure are
really logarithmic?
No.
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Bravo bump parasite for your initiative to open a nre thread
anyway idiot
space is not curved and not shmerved
the curved motion only in cases it is
is a propwerty of some basic particles
bye idiotic parrot bump parasite
Y.Porat
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Don't drink so much Porat. You will become a liability....
HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
You can burn all yer books!
Space is logarithmic.
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| User: "kunzmilan" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
11 Sep 2006 03:38:28 AM |
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Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we measure are
really logarithmic?
The string 0,1,2,3,4,... is linear.
The string 1,2,4,8,16,..is logarithmic.
Now make their graphs. Correlate the second value of both strings
against the first one of the same string, the third value against the
second value, etc. Both correlations are linear with different slopes.
One question. Can logarithms with base 1 exist?
kunzmilan
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| User: "Wilson" |
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11 Sep 2006 05:15:41 AM |
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On 11 Sep 2006 01:38:28 -0700, "kunzmilan" <kunzmilan@atlas.cz> wrote:
Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we measure are
really logarithmic?
The string 0,1,2,3,4,... is linear.
The string 1,2,4,8,16,..is logarithmic.
Now make their graphs. Correlate the second value of both strings
against the first one of the same string, the third value against the
second value, etc. Both correlations are linear with different slopes.
What are you talking about?
One question. Can logarithms with base 1 exist?
No.
1^n=1
Log 1=0
kunzmilan
HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
You can burn all yer books!
Space is logarithmic.
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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11 Sep 2006 11:58:07 PM |
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kunzmilan wrote:
Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we measure are
really logarithmic?
The string 0,1,2,3,4,... is linear.
The string 1,2,4,8,16,..is logarithmic.
Now make their graphs. Correlate the second value of both strings
against the first one of the same string, the third value against the
second value, etc. Both correlations are linear with different slopes.
One question. Can logarithms with base 1 exist?
kunzmilan
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i dont onow about string theory
but i am quite sure
*it was adapted and adjusted** to fit some aoriori assumptions
may be he flopp theory of curved space time
that parrots like awilson are going to bang their heads in it
to therest of their life !!and at trhe same long time
tolive in a paradaiz of fools
ATB
Y.Porat
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| User: "xray4abc" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
03 Oct 2006 01:31:50 PM |
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Hi, guys
A brand new idea :
Space is not curved,...........it is carved!
More than that,.... it is carved in an arrhythmic log!
Have fun!
LL
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| User: "Wilson" |
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03 Oct 2006 04:34:21 PM |
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On 3 Oct 2006 11:31:50 -0700, "xray4abc" <lemhenyil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Hi, guys
A brand new idea :
Space is not curved,...........it is carved!
More than that,.... it is carved in an arrhythmic log!
I like that!
Have fun!
LL
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(another world-shattering announcement coming soon)
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| User: "Wilson" |
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08 Sep 2006 02:16:25 AM |
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On 7 Sep 2006 16:14:50 -0700, "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote:
Henri Wilson wrote:
This is just a theory.
Our concept of space is linear. Is it possible that distances we measure are
really logarithmic?
No.
I thought they had locked you up Geesey.
HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
You can burn all yer books!
Space is logarithmic.
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| User: "Igor" |
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| Title: Re: New theory: Space is not curved. It is logarithmic. |
08 Sep 2006 03:15:22 PM |
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Henri Wilson wrote:
You can burn all yer books!
Space is logarithmic.
How are logarithms related to commutators?
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