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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Pmb"
Date: 29 Oct 2003 06:35:11 PM
Object: Re: Relativistic Mass
"Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> wrote in message
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Pmb:


"Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> wrote in message


How? By posting yet another reference which demonstrates

relativistic

mass is not used by default and the author defines it as something

other

than mass?


So sad. Tell me bilge - What part of this
------------------------------------------------
The relativistic momentum is sometimes written as

(10) p = m(v)v

where m(v) is a "velocity-dependant-mass" defined as

(11) m(v) = m/sqrt[1-(v/c)^2]
------------------------------------------------
are you having trouble understanding this time?


The part where you think writing m(v) and defining it as a velocity-
dependent mass is justification for your assertion that phycicists
just write `m' and assume it to mean "relativistic mass" by default.
In this case, the author even steered clear of the term "relativistic
mass".

Well it seems that I'll be proving you and little davy waite wrong yet once
more tonight. You're rather closed minded in this respect and since you've
refused to prove your claim I will once more provide a counter example. In
an article by Rinlder and Denur in the American Journal of Physics the
authors never uses the term 'relativistic mass.' They only use the term
'mass' to mean 'relativistic mass.' When he uses 'm' in 'delta m' it refers
to 'relativistic mass.' When he refers to mass density it's 'relativistic
mass density' etc. etc. etc.
"A simple relativistic paradox about electrostatic energy,' Rindler and
Denur, Am. J. Phys., Vol. 56 (9), Sept 1987
http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/rindler-87.gif
E.g.
"Yet we know from general theory that the mass of any isolated system
transforms like that of a particle, i.e., it 'increases' by a gamma factor
when moving through the lab."
However Rindler and Denur do make it clear that mass and energy are the same
thing (in their opinion). I.e.
Consequently, the energy (mass!) of the box appears to be 'decreased' by a
factor of gamma."
waite and bilge will now claim this article doesn't exist or that the
authors don't know relativity etc. etc. etc.
Or as usual they will simply ignore the existance of this article - after
all - they don't have that portion of their brain which allows them to admit
their mistakes.
bilge has once again proven that he's scared of being proved wrong again
since when this fear hits him he tries to divert response to other
newsgroups - the act of a coward.
.

User: "Bilge"

Title: Re: Relativistic Mass 30 Oct 2003 12:20:17 AM
Pmb:


"Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> wrote in message
news:slrnbq06v9.t0o.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net...

Pmb:


"Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> wrote in message


How? By posting yet another reference which demonstrates

relativistic

mass is not used by default and the author defines it as something

other

than mass?


So sad. Tell me bilge - What part of this
------------------------------------------------
The relativistic momentum is sometimes written as

(10) p = m(v)v

where m(v) is a "velocity-dependant-mass" defined as

(11) m(v) = m/sqrt[1-(v/c)^2]
------------------------------------------------
are you having trouble understanding this time?


The part where you think writing m(v) and defining it as a velocity-
dependent mass is justification for your assertion that phycicists
just write `m' and assume it to mean "relativistic mass" by default.
In this case, the author even steered clear of the term "relativistic
mass".


Well it seems that I'll be proving you and little davy waite wrong yet once
more tonight.


Oh good. I can't wait to have you post some additional "proof" just
as good as above. Aren't you satisfied with just handing over your
head on a silver platter?
[*plonk*]
.
User: "Gauge"

Title: Re: Relativistic Mass 30 Oct 2003 04:00:34 AM
(Bilge) wrote in message news:<slrnbq1g20.tr1.
>...

Pmb:


"Bilge" <

> wrote in message
news:slrnbq06v9.t0o.
...

Pmb:


"Bilge" <

> wrote in message


How? By posting yet another reference which demonstrates

relativistic

mass is not used by default and the author defines it as something

other

than mass?


So sad. Tell me bilge - What part of this
------------------------------------------------
The relativistic momentum is sometimes written as

(10) p = m(v)v

where m(v) is a "velocity-dependant-mass" defined as

(11) m(v) = m/sqrt[1-(v/c)^2]
------------------------------------------------
are you having trouble understanding this time?


The part where you think writing m(v) and defining it as a velocity-
dependent mass is justification for your assertion that phycicists
just write `m' and assume it to mean "relativistic mass" by default.
In this case, the author even steered clear of the term "relativistic
mass".


Well it seems that I'll be proving you and little davy waite wrong yet once
more tonight.


Oh good. I can't wait to have you post some additional "proof" just
as good as above. Aren't you satisfied with just handing over your
head on a silver platter?

Still can't admit your errors I see. The mark of someone who is truly closed minded.
.



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