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"Hexenmeister" |
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04 Apr 2006 08:01:32 AM |
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Re: the local village idiot bites again. |
"AllYou!" <Idaman@conversent.net> wrote in message
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| This is just too good for words. No matter how many times I tell this
| local village idiot that I'm baiting him, he just keeps biting anyway.
| He actually replies to my posts as though I read them.
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| What a complete Dolt. There's got to be something wrong with someone
| who allows himself to be so easily hooked like this. It must be the
| same reason why he's been following me around this NG for years. I
| showed him up to be a moron then, just as I am now, and so he just
| can't let it go.
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| Hmmmmmmmmm.
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| Anyway, just for fun, watch this.......
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| C'mon, Guppy..........
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Ya know he's a turkey, don't cha?
"Bil-gay" is a common name in Turkey.
http://tinyurl.com/cc5an
Androcles.
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| User: "CrankHater" |
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| Title: Re: the local village idiot bites again. |
04 Apr 2006 10:44:57 AM |
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Hexenmeister wrote:
Ya know he's a turkey, don't cha?
"Bil-gay" is a common name in Turkey.
http://tinyurl.com/cc5an
Androcles.
you are a *****. go away.
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: the local village idiot bites again. |
04 Apr 2006 02:48:09 PM |
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"AllYou!" <Idaman@conversent.net> wrote in message
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| "CrankHater" <yt56erd@gmail.com> wrote in message
| news:1144165496.997700.315780@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > Hexenmeister wrote:
| >> Ya know he's a turkey, don't cha?
| >> "Bil-gay" is a common name in Turkey.
| >> http://tinyurl.com/cc5an
| >>
| >> Androcles.
| >
| > you are a *****. go away.
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| "Cranks are usually big on using adjectives like 'real' as if it had
| some actual meaning."
| ---Hobba
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| "SR has nothing to do with 'perception', is has to do with time and
| distances as indicated by real apparatus eg rulers and clocks."
| ---- Hobba
"Real" has nothing to do with it. -- Humpty Roberts
"To obtain a speed, you must divide the distance traveled by the travel
time ... _Nothing_ else is speed. Because that is what we mean by the word.
<shrug>
" -- Humpty Roberts.
Humpty Roberts let out a great sigh.
" <sigh>", he said.
"The nuances of English. I was discussing the usage of words and
not the concepts they represent." -- Humpty Roberts.
Humpty Roberts in Wonderland:-
"Yes, tests of strong fields are few and far between, but there are
some:
the binary pulsars, and observations of accretion disks near black
holes
`I don't know what you mean by "observations",' Alice said.
Humpty Roberts smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don't -- till I tell
you.
I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"' <shrug>
`But "observations" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice
objected.
`When I use a word,' Humpty Roberts said, in rather a scornful tone,
<shrug>,
`it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' <shrug>
`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many
different things.'
`The question is,' said Humpty Roberts, `which is to be master -- that's
all.' <shrug>
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Roberts
began again. `They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs: they're
the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs --
however,
I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'
<shrug>
"And you never responded to how a 2-d surface in a flat 4-d spacetime can
have nonzero curvature, and why that shows that the curvature of such
2-d surfaces is useless in "describing" the geometry of the 4-d
manifold...." he
droned on.
"If you say that the curvature of 2-d surfaces is useless in
"describing" the geometry of the 4-d manifold....I am willing to agree
with you. But I just wanted you people to help me visualize the
intrinsic curvature of 3-d Schw. space. I was told that the Gaussian
curvature of certain 2-d surfaces will represent the intrinsic
curvature of 3-d Schw. space. When I wanted these 2-d surfaces to be
identified, Jan PB had given some interesting suggestions. But now you
say it is *useless*....." said Alice.
"_SOME_ 2-d surfaces can be useful in describing the geometry of 4-d
spacetime, in particular those spanned by a 2-d vector space of
geodesics. But you were discussing 2-d surfaces defined by coordinates,
and _those_ are useless because coordinates are completely arbitrary,
and introducing that arbitrariness destroys their usefulness" replied Humpty
Roberts.
"That means the notion of intrinsic curvature of space is either too
complex that it cannot be visualized or it is just invalid." exclaimed
Alice.
"No. But in many cases using a ball of dust particles is a better
visualization tool than 2-d surfaces.", said Humpty Roberts, teetering
on his wall.
"Mathematically it is good enough to state that in Riemannian geometry
the Riemann tensor is non-zero. Where is the necessity of associating
it with a cooked up fictitious term 'curvature of space'? " asked Alice,
thinking of the cooked up egg she had for breakfast.
"Mathematicians and physicists are human. We share the common desire to
communicate with each other easily, accurately, and concisely -- that's
why technical vocabularies were invented." said Humpty Roberts scornfully
and pretending he is human by saying "we".
Alice pondered this for moment, then asked "Was it required to fool and
mislead the 'layman'?"
"Your problem, not mine", said Humpty Roberts, then realizing his
Freudian slip, he was pretending to be human, added "(ours).
But this technical vocabulary is not secret or unfathomable, it just
takes _STUDY_. <shrug>"
Alice then went back to say "The term *curvature* basically applies to
the bending of curves and 2-d surfaces."
Ho ho, thought Humpty Roberts, "Not in differential geometry or GR.
The term "curvature" was borrowed by analogy with 2-d surfaces, and
has come to mean the Riemann curvature tensor. That is, a manifold of
_any_ dimension with nonzero Riemann tensor is said to be curved."
and he shrugged like this :- "<shrug>"
Alice asked "Why *said* to be curved when it is actually not curved?"
Humpty Roberts let out a great sigh.
" <sigh>", he said.
"The nuances of English. I was discussing the usage of words and
not the concepts they represent."
-- Tom Humpty Roberts
news:ZDmYf.51582$2O6.5573@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com
The end.
With thanks to Lewis Carroll.
The reader should take careful note here.
Humpty Roberts is not discussing the concepts words represent, he is
discussing the meaning of words. The rest of us use a dictionary.
Professor Androcles.
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| User: "Cranks_Will_Be_Found" |
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| Title: Re: the local village idiot bites again. |
05 Apr 2006 07:47:19 AM |
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Hexenmeister wrote:
<snip pointless boring shite>.
Professor Androcles.
Bwahahahahaha.
you are a *****. please die.
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