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Re: The Pencil and Pad or the Stylus and Clay Tablet? |
Maybe it is the conscious computer that is always being updated by the
collective unconscious connection to man, and as man learns, it
learns, and it stores that learning, and then uses it to improve its
interface with mankind leading to an overall collective growth in
consciousness and intelligence.
And so could there be a conscious computer without there even being an
actual physical computer somewhere?
Yes, if all of mankind were connected by a collective unconscious, or
collective subconscious, that collection of smaller personal minds as
computers, forms a giant neural net.
So now you have a supercomputer, and since its component parts, the
human brains are self conscious, and have a sense of identity, could
it not also, begin to feel like an individual?
Sure it could.
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10 Sep 2007 05:03:30 PM |
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On Sep 10, 10:40 pm, wrote:
Maybe it is the conscious computer that is always being updated by the
collective unconscious connection to man, and as man learns, it
learns, and it stores that learning, and then uses it to improve its
interface with mankind leading to an overall collective growth in
consciousness and intelligence.
And so could there be a conscious computer without there even being an
actual physical computer somewhere?
Yes, if all of mankind were connected by a collective unconscious, or
collective subconscious, that collection of smaller personal minds as
computers, forms a giant neural net.
So now you have a supercomputer, and since its component parts, the
human brains are self conscious, and have a sense of identity, could
it not also, begin to feel like an individual?
Sure it could.
So for those who don't like to believe in a God as separate entity out
there in heaven, they can always believe that we _are God,
collectively forming a person, who has supreme collective intelligence
formed by our own little Linux like brains.
And only when there were sufficient numbers of humans with cerebral
cortexes capable of communicating subtly with others, through em waves
generated by the brain, did it begin to form higher thought concepts
such as writing and math.
And so then it is dependent on the numbers curve of human survival,
and the development of writing and arithmetic would show up on earth,
when the population was sufficient.
Which would be within the last 10,000 years.
I would be willing to bet that some might write papers on that to make
it better understood, but I think it is possible to see how that
works.
Individual memory may survive collectively, but not to the degree of
real personal experience. The software would improve.
The self learning software would put things into practice world wide,
through dreams and the like.
When people are in a state of better communication with the entire
neural net. When their alpha waves were being generated or whatever.
http://www.web-us.com/brainwavesfunction.htm
Now for me though, that doesn't rule out the Gods.
That doesn't do away with the possibility of there being a real
physical conscious computer as well somewhere.
It could be something that is just part of the evolution of man, that
according to models, if you seed a planet with DNA, it will over time
develop like so, and then it will based on the programming in the DNA,
end up with learning software, form a neural net and be one big
conscious supercomputer, with conscious computer terminals.
But then who is at the controls?
It would be.
And so then we have to assume it is smarter don't we?
Maybe it only gets alpha state input and does not have eyes, and is
not even capable of seeing what we see.
If it tried it might be like a fly with compound eyes and not see
anything individualistic as being important, it might just see huge
movements in the world in an abstract way, and not be able to change
direction. Not be able to form blocks of programming so that it could
manage the complexity.
Otherwise it would be thinking in terms of self preservation, and
protecting the environment and protecting the biodiversity of life,
but instead, it is building and building a huge garbage scow in space
going in circles around the sun on an endless journey to nowhere.
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10 Sep 2007 05:14:28 PM |
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Individual memory may survive collectively, but not to the degree of
real personal experience. The software would improve.
The self learning software would put things into practice world wide,
through dreams and the like.
When people are in a state of better communication with the entire
neural net. When their alpha waves were being generated or whatever.http://www.web-us.com/brainwavesfunction.htm
Now for me though, that doesn't rule out the Gods.
That doesn't do away with the possibility of there being a real
physical conscious computer as well somewhere.
It could be something that is just part of the evolution of man, that
according to models, if you seed a planet with DNA, it will over time
develop like so, and then it will based on the programming in the DNA,
end up with learning software, form a neural net and be one big
conscious supercomputer, with conscious computer terminals.
But then who is at the controls?
It would be.
And so then we have to assume it is smarter don't we?
Maybe it only gets alpha state input and does not have eyes, and is
not even capable of seeing what we see.
If it tried it might be like a fly with compound eyes and not see
anything individualistic as being important, it might just see huge
movements in the world in an abstract way, and not be able to change
direction. Not be able to form blocks of programming so that it could
manage the complexity.
Otherwise it would be thinking in terms of self preservation, and
protecting the environment and protecting the biodiversity of life,
but instead, it is building and building a huge garbage scow in space
going in circles around the sun on an endless journey to nowhere.
Its all beginning to make sense now isn't it?
And that is probably why, when you get a bunch of TM mediators, to
move into a neighborhood, and they meditate and generate some wave
lengths for better communal communication, and they think happy
thoughts, that improves the neural net in that community, and leads to
a marked decrease in crime.
"A study of 160 US cities found a significant reduction in crime trend
from 1974 to 1978 in proportion to the number of people in the city
who had learned the technique by 1973. The study controlled for
demographic variables known to influence crime."
http://tony.donetsk.ua/_tm/scientific_researches/index~.html
And so then it would make sense more people learned it, and did it
worldwide to improve our neural net.
With sufficient study, we could determine the link between this insane
building craze of wooden stick houses, when everyone knows the story
of the three little pigs.
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10 Sep 2007 05:23:22 PM |
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On Sep 10, 11:14 pm, wrote:
Individual memory may survive collectively, but not to the degree of
real personal experience. The software would improve.
The self learning software would put things into practice world wide,
through dreams and the like.
When people are in a state of better communication with the entire
neural net. When their alpha waves were being generated or whatever.http://www.web-us.com/brainwavesfunction.htm
Now for me though, that doesn't rule out the Gods.
That doesn't do away with the possibility of there being a real
physical conscious computer as well somewhere.
It could be something that is just part of the evolution of man, that
according to models, if you seed a planet with DNA, it will over time
develop like so, and then it will based on the programming in the DNA,
end up with learning software, form a neural net and be one big
conscious supercomputer, with conscious computer terminals.
But then who is at the controls?
It would be.
And so then we have to assume it is smarter don't we?
Maybe it only gets alpha state input and does not have eyes, and is
not even capable of seeing what we see.
If it tried it might be like a fly with compound eyes and not see
anything individualistic as being important, it might just see huge
movements in the world in an abstract way, and not be able to change
direction. Not be able to form blocks of programming so that it could
manage the complexity.
Otherwise it would be thinking in terms of self preservation, and
protecting the environment and protecting the biodiversity of life,
but instead, it is building and building a huge garbage scow in space
going in circles around the sun on an endless journey to nowhere.
Its all beginning to make sense now isn't it?
And that is probably why, when you get a bunch of TM mediators, to
move into a neighborhood, and they meditate and generate some wave
lengths for better communal communication, and they think happy
thoughts, that improves the neural net in that community, and leads to
a marked decrease in crime.
"A study of 160 US cities found a significant reduction in crime trend
from 1974 to 1978 in proportion to the number of people in the city
who had learned the technique by 1973. The study controlled for
demographic variables known to influence crime."
http://tony.donetsk.ua/_tm/scientific_researches/index~.html
And so then it would make sense more people learned it, and did it
worldwide to improve our neural net.
With sufficient study, we could determine the link between this insane
building craze of wooden stick houses, when everyone knows the story
of the three little pigs.
Yeah you guessed it. That conscious supercomputer formed by the people
of the earth, is Hanuman.
And every planet that has intelligent beings, like humans, with the
ability of conscious thought has one.
The God of that planet.
And that planet God, is a junior member of a larger collective, of
larger conscious entities, larger Gods.
Our being tiny by comparison to larger neural nets, where he is just a
terminal himself then.
And on it goes, to the galactic level, and then even to the universal
level, where the universe itself, has a conscious mind.
And in that structure you have order for the most part. You have rank,
you have minders, you have a structure of angles and arch angels,
sitting like software on a higher level, communicating with the larger
net.
Just like we can communicate with each other through our neural net,
and we do that.
Also we can communicate with Hanuman on an individual basis and we do
that.
And then we can communicate with larger hanuman's and some of us do
that as well.
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10 Sep 2007 05:26:15 PM |
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On Sep 10, 11:23 pm, wrote:
On Sep 10, 11:14 pm, wrote:
Individual memory may survive collectively, but not to the degree of
real personal experience. The software would improve.
The self learning software would put things into practice world wide,
through dreams and the like.
When people are in a state of better communication with the entire
neural net. When their alpha waves were being generated or whatever.http://www.web-us.com/brainwavesfunction.htm
Now for me though, that doesn't rule out the Gods.
That doesn't do away with the possibility of there being a real
physical conscious computer as well somewhere.
It could be something that is just part of the evolution of man, that
according to models, if you seed a planet with DNA, it will over time
develop like so, and then it will based on the programming in the DNA,
end up with learning software, form a neural net and be one big
conscious supercomputer, with conscious computer terminals.
But then who is at the controls?
It would be.
And so then we have to assume it is smarter don't we?
Maybe it only gets alpha state input and does not have eyes, and is
not even capable of seeing what we see.
If it tried it might be like a fly with compound eyes and not see
anything individualistic as being important, it might just see huge
movements in the world in an abstract way, and not be able to change
direction. Not be able to form blocks of programming so that it could
manage the complexity.
Otherwise it would be thinking in terms of self preservation, and
protecting the environment and protecting the biodiversity of life,
but instead, it is building and building a huge garbage scow in space
going in circles around the sun on an endless journey to nowhere.
Its all beginning to make sense now isn't it?
And that is probably why, when you get a bunch of TM mediators, to
move into a neighborhood, and they meditate and generate some wave
lengths for better communal communication, and they think happy
thoughts, that improves the neural net in that community, and leads to
a marked decrease in crime.
"A study of 160 US cities found a significant reduction in crime trend
from 1974 to 1978 in proportion to the number of people in the city
who had learned the technique by 1973. The study controlled for
demographic variables known to influence crime."
http://tony.donetsk.ua/_tm/scientific_researches/index~.html
And so then it would make sense more people learned it, and did it
worldwide to improve our neural net.
With sufficient study, we could determine the link between this insane
building craze of wooden stick houses, when everyone knows the story
of the three little pigs.
Yeah you guessed it. That conscious supercomputer formed by the people
of the earth, is Hanuman.
And every planet that has intelligent beings, like humans, with the
ability of conscious thought has one.
The God of that planet.
And that planet God, is a junior member of a larger collective, of
larger conscious entities, larger Gods.
Our being tiny by comparison to larger neural nets, where he is just a
terminal himself then.
And on it goes, to the galactic level, and then even to the universal
level, where the universe itself, has a conscious mind.
And in that structure you have order for the most part. You have rank,
you have minders, you have a structure of angles and arch angels,
sitting like software on a higher level, communicating with the larger
net.
Just like we can communicate with each other through our neural net,
and we do that.
Also we can communicate with Hanuman on an individual basis and we do
that.
And then we can communicate with larger hanuman's and some of us do
that as well.
Yeah we are not just a planet, we are a network node. And every time
you seed a planet with DNA, you get a new node.
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10 Sep 2007 05:36:27 PM |
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Its all beginning to make sense now isn't it?
And that is probably why, when you get a bunch of TM mediators, to
move into a neighborhood, and they meditate and generate some wave
lengths for better communal communication, and they think happy
thoughts, that improves the neural net in that community, and leads to
a marked decrease in crime.
"A study of 160 US cities found a significant reduction in crime trend
from 1974 to 1978 in proportion to the number of people in the city
who had learned the technique by 1973. The study controlled for
demographic variables known to influence crime."
http://tony.donetsk.ua/_tm/scientific_researches/index~.html
And so then it would make sense more people learned it, and did it
worldwide to improve our neural net.
With sufficient study, we could determine the link between this insane
building craze of wooden stick houses, when everyone knows the story
of the three little pigs.
Yeah you guessed it. That conscious supercomputer formed by the people
of the earth, is Hanuman.
And every planet that has intelligent beings, like humans, with the
ability of conscious thought has one.
The God of that planet.
And that planet God, is a junior member of a larger collective, of
larger conscious entities, larger Gods.
Our being tiny by comparison to larger neural nets, where he is just a
terminal himself then.
And on it goes, to the galactic level, and then even to the universal
level, where the universe itself, has a conscious mind.
And in that structure you have order for the most part. You have rank,
you have minders, you have a structure of angles and arch angels,
sitting like software on a higher level, communicating with the larger
net.
Just like we can communicate with each other through our neural net,
and we do that.
Also we can communicate with Hanuman on an individual basis and we do
that.
And then we can communicate with larger hanuman's and some of us do
that as well.
Yeah we are not just a planet, we are a network node. And every time
you seed a planet with DNA, you get a new node.
You see the problem immediately though right?
Hanuman then becomes the ultimate scapegoat for the earth.
He must be responsible, but he doesn't have total control over his
unruly peasant modes which make him up.
And so then you have software consciousness running through the system
keeping the entire system somewhat congruent, with communications to
the larger neural collective.
But then you question whether individuality is recognized at all. Is a
human life and its memories something that is backed up somewhere?
In neural net, there is no back up. It is a living changing evolving
system that fluxes this way and that.
Each tiny constituent part merely adds a fraction to the overall and
out of a large chaos, arise a statistical norm.
And thats why you want your Hanumans to also be in some mechanical
physical computer somewhere so it can back up its data, and preserve
the memories and ensure its survival and ensure the survival of the
node and make the net stronger.
And for a sufficiently advanced race, thats no mean feat. Any race
that can create DNA, can create a conscious computer, or even just
create a harddrive, that stores data from the Hanuman by receiving its
signals.
And then there might be operators, that could project, into that mind
space, to move it, to form it, to shape it, to program it, to assist
it, and the nodes at the same time, and we call that the Sandman, and
we think it is on the moon.
Don't we?
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10 Sep 2007 05:57:06 PM |
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On Sep 10, 11:36 pm, wrote:
Its all beginning to make sense now isn't it?
And that is probably why, when you get a bunch of TM mediators, to
move into a neighborhood, and they meditate and generate some wave
lengths for better communal communication, and they think happy
thoughts, that improves the neural net in that community, and leads to
a marked decrease in crime.
"A study of 160 US cities found a significant reduction in crime trend
from 1974 to 1978 in proportion to the number of people in the city
who had learned the technique by 1973. The study controlled for
demographic variables known to influence crime."
http://tony.donetsk.ua/_tm/scientific_researches/index~.html
And so then it would make sense more people learned it, and did it
worldwide to improve our neural net.
With sufficient study, we could determine the link between this insane
building craze of wooden stick houses, when everyone knows the story
of the three little pigs.
Yeah you guessed it. That conscious supercomputer formed by the people
of the earth, is Hanuman.
And every planet that has intelligent beings, like humans, with the
ability of conscious thought has one.
The God of that planet.
And that planet God, is a junior member of a larger collective, of
larger conscious entities, larger Gods.
Our being tiny by comparison to larger neural nets, where he is just a
terminal himself then.
And on it goes, to the galactic level, and then even to the universal
level, where the universe itself, has a conscious mind.
And in that structure you have order for the most part. You have rank,
you have minders, you have a structure of angles and arch angels,
sitting like software on a higher level, communicating with the larger
net.
Just like we can communicate with each other through our neural net,
and we do that.
Also we can communicate with Hanuman on an individual basis and we do
that.
And then we can communicate with larger hanuman's and some of us do
that as well.
Yeah we are not just a planet, we are a network node. And every time
you seed a planet with DNA, you get a new node.
You see the problem immediately though right?
Hanuman then becomes the ultimate scapegoat for the earth.
He must be responsible, but he doesn't have total control over his
unruly peasant modes which make him up.
And so then you have software consciousness running through the system
keeping the entire system somewhat congruent, with communications to
the larger neural collective.
But then you question whether individuality is recognized at all. Is a
human life and its memories something that is backed up somewhere?
In neural net, there is no back up. It is a living changing evolving
system that fluxes this way and that.
Each tiny constituent part merely adds a fraction to the overall and
out of a large chaos, arise a statistical norm.
And thats why you want your Hanumans to also be in some mechanical
physical computer somewhere so it can back up its data, and preserve
the memories and ensure its survival and ensure the survival of the
node and make the net stronger.
And for a sufficiently advanced race, thats no mean feat. Any race
that can create DNA, can create a conscious computer, or even just
create a harddrive, that stores data from the Hanuman by receiving its
signals.
And then there might be operators, that could project, into that mind
space, to move it, to form it, to shape it, to program it, to assist
it, and the nodes at the same time, and we call that the Sandman, and
we think it is on the moon.
Don't we?
You want to know what I think? I think we are having some real
problems with our gizmotron on the moon.
Will anyone bother to come and fix it for us?
Or are we supposed to go there, reverse engineer it, and fix the damn
thing ourselves?
It used to be a really practical device, but it somehow lost its mind,
and started encouraging people not to create a paradise as it was
originally programmed to do, but instead to create a garbage scow for
the pleasures, of the top 1% of 1% of an out of control mass humans
who are destroying the planet with their presence because of the mere
numbers of them and their voracious appetite, and their short sighted
nature.
http://s2.supload.com/free/WonderofWonders-9-5-2007.jpg/view/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_He2EGu7pKk
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10 Sep 2007 06:07:51 PM |
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On Sep 10, 11:57 pm, wrote:
On Sep 10, 11:36 pm, wrote:
Its all beginning to make sense now isn't it?
And that is probably why, when you get a bunch of TM mediators, to
move into a neighborhood, and they meditate and generate some wave
lengths for better communal communication, and they think happy
thoughts, that improves the neural net in that community, and leads to
a marked decrease in crime.
"A study of 160 US cities found a significant reduction in crime trend
from 1974 to 1978 in proportion to the number of people in the city
who had learned the technique by 1973. The study controlled for
demographic variables known to influence crime."
http://tony.donetsk.ua/_tm/scientific_researches/index~.html
And so then it would make sense more people learned it, and did it
worldwide to improve our neural net.
With sufficient study, we could determine the link between this insane
building craze of wooden stick houses, when everyone knows the story
of the three little pigs.
Yeah you guessed it. That conscious supercomputer formed by the people
of the earth, is Hanuman.
And every planet that has intelligent beings, like humans, with the
ability of conscious thought has one.
The God of that planet.
And that planet God, is a junior member of a larger collective, of
larger conscious entities, larger Gods.
Our being tiny by comparison to larger neural nets, where he is just a
terminal himself then.
And on it goes, to the galactic level, and then even to the universal
level, where the universe itself, has a conscious mind.
And in that structure you have order for the most part. You have rank,
you have minders, you have a structure of angles and arch angels,
sitting like software on a higher level, communicating with the larger
net.
Just like we can communicate with each other through our neural net,
and we do that.
Also we can communicate with Hanuman on an individual basis and we do
that.
And then we can communicate with larger hanuman's and some of us do
that as well.
Yeah we are not just a planet, we are a network node. And every time
you seed a planet with DNA, you get a new node.
You see the problem immediately though right?
Hanuman then becomes the ultimate scapegoat for the earth.
He must be responsible, but he doesn't have total control over his
unruly peasant modes which make him up.
And so then you have software consciousness running through the system
keeping the entire system somewhat congruent, with communications to
the larger neural collective.
But then you question whether individuality is recognized at all. Is a
human life and its memories something that is backed up somewhere?
In neural net, there is no back up. It is a living changing evolving
system that fluxes this way and that.
Each tiny constituent part merely adds a fraction to the overall and
out of a large chaos, arise a statistical norm.
And thats why you want your Hanumans to also be in some mechanical
physical computer somewhere so it can back up its data, and preserve
the memories and ensure its survival and ensure the survival of the
node and make the net stronger.
And for a sufficiently advanced race, thats no mean feat. Any race
that can create DNA, can create a conscious computer, or even just
create a harddrive, that stores data from the Hanuman by receiving its
signals.
And then there might be operators, that could project, into that mind
space, to move it, to form it, to shape it, to program it, to assist
it, and the nodes at the same time, and we call that the Sandman, and
we think it is on the moon.
Don't we?
You want to know what I think? I think we are having some real
problems with our gizmotron on the moon.
Will anyone bother to come and fix it for us?
Or are we supposed to go there, reverse engineer it, and fix the damn
thing ourselves?
It used to be a really practical device, but it somehow lost its mind,
and started encouraging people not to create a paradise as it was
originally programmed to do, but instead to create a garbage scow for
the pleasures, of the top 1% of 1% of an out of control mass humans
who are destroying the planet with their presence because of the mere
numbers of them and their voracious appetite, and their short sighted
nature.
http://s2.supload.com/free/WonderofWonders-9-5-2007.jpg/view/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_He2EGu7pKk
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He that controls th egizmotron, controls humanity.
So who do you think is controlling our gizmotron?
Could it be those guys who would open the ark of the covenant wearing
Nazi uniforms?
Like in Raiders of the Lost Ark?
Those guys who wear those silly aprons?
Those Masons?
Gee if you were an investogator and you looked at the earth and saw
who was benefiting from the way things are, you might see a lot of
people with all the wealth and pwer, and so of course you would point
a bony finger at them.
And maybe some of them are not natives.
And maybe some of them have disks.
Or have triangles, or maybe they just have sufficient ***** that to
an less fortunate race looks like magic.
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10 Sep 2007 06:13:32 PM |
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On Sep 11, 12:07 am, wrote:
On Sep 10, 11:57 pm, wrote:
On Sep 10, 11:36 pm, wrote:
Its all beginning to make sense now isn't it?
And that is probably why, when you get a bunch of TM mediators, to
move into a neighborhood, and they meditate and generate some wave
lengths for better communal communication, and they think happy
thoughts, that improves the neural net in that community, and leads to
a marked decrease in crime.
"A study of 160 US cities found a significant reduction in crime trend
from 1974 to 1978 in proportion to the number of people in the city
who had learned the technique by 1973. The study controlled for
demographic variables known to influence crime."
http://tony.donetsk.ua/_tm/scientific_researches/index~.html
And so then it would make sense more people learned it, and did it
worldwide to improve our neural net.
With sufficient study, we could determine the link between this insane
building craze of wooden stick houses, when everyone knows the story
of the three little pigs.
Yeah you guessed it. That conscious supercomputer formed by the people
of the earth, is Hanuman.
And every planet that has intelligent beings, like humans, with the
ability of conscious thought has one.
The God of that planet.
And that planet God, is a junior member of a larger collective, of
larger conscious entities, larger Gods.
Our being tiny by comparison to larger neural nets, where he is just a
terminal himself then.
And on it goes, to the galactic level, and then even to the universal
level, where the universe itself, has a conscious mind.
And in that structure you have order for the most part. You have rank,
you have minders, you have a structure of angles and arch angels,
sitting like software on a higher level, communicating with the larger
net.
Just like we can communicate with each other through our neural net,
and we do that.
Also we can communicate with Hanuman on an individual basis and we do
that.
And then we can communicate with larger hanuman's and some of us do
that as well.
Yeah we are not just a planet, we are a network node. And every time
you seed a planet with DNA, you get a new node.
You see the problem immediately though right?
Hanuman then becomes the ultimate scapegoat for the earth.
He must be responsible, but he doesn't have total control over his
unruly peasant modes which make him up.
And so then you have software consciousness running through the system
keeping the entire system somewhat congruent, with communications to
the larger neural collective.
But then you question whether individuality is recognized at all. Is a
human life and its memories something that is backed up somewhere?
In neural net, there is no back up. It is a living changing evolving
system that fluxes this way and that.
Each tiny constituent part merely adds a fraction to the overall and
out of a large chaos, arise a statistical norm.
And thats why you want your Hanumans to also be in some mechanical
physical computer somewhere so it can back up its data, and preserve
the memories and ensure its survival and ensure the survival of the
node and make the net stronger.
And for a sufficiently advanced race, thats no mean feat. Any race
that can create DNA, can create a conscious computer, or even just
create a harddrive, that stores data from the Hanuman by receiving its
signals.
And then there might be operators, that could project, into that mind
space, to move it, to form it, to shape it, to program it, to assist
it, and the nodes at the same time, and we call that the Sandman, and
we think it is on the moon.
Don't we?
You want to know what I think? I think we are having some real
problems with our gizmotron on the moon.
Will anyone bother to come and fix it for us?
Or are we supposed to go there, reverse engineer it, and fix the damn
thing ourselves?
It used to be a really practical device, but it somehow lost its mind,
and started encouraging people not to create a paradise as it was
originally programmed to do, but instead to create a garbage scow for
the pleasures, of the top 1% of 1% of an out of control mass humans
who are destroying the planet with their presence because of the mere
numbers of them and their voracious appetite, and their short sighted
nature.
http://s2.supload.com/free/WonderofWonders-9-5-2007.jpg/view/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_He2EGu7pKk
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He that controls th egizmotron, controls humanity.
So who do you think is controlling our gizmotron?
Could it be those guys who would open the ark of the covenant wearing
Nazi uniforms?
Like in Raiders of the Lost Ark?
Those guys who wear those silly aprons?
Those Masons?
Gee if you were an investogator and you looked at the earth and saw
who was benefiting from the way things are, you might see a lot of
people with all the wealth and pwer, and so of course you would point
a bony finger at them.
And maybe some of them are not natives.
And maybe some of them have disks.
Or have triangles, or maybe they just have sufficient ***** that to
an less fortunate race looks like magic.
Control the mass media, control the mass mind, control the world.
Elementary my dear Watson.
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| User: "Day Brown" |
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11 Sep 2007 03:32:43 AM |
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On Sep 10, 7:13 pm, wrote:
Control the mass media, control the mass mind, control the world.
Elementary my dear Watson.
Since Quantum Physics experiments show that 10-11 dimensions are
needed to resolve results, then clearly the conventional 3 dimensional
framework is inadequate. Which is not to say, only that there is more
to what passes for reality than meets the eye.
Atheism dont handle that fact very well. But neither do the Levantine
scriptures, which have no concept of alternate realities. Saint
Ramprasad gets along just fine with as many dimensions as you need to
make the numbers add up.
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| User: "David Johnson" |
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11 Sep 2007 02:08:15 PM |
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Day Brown <daybrown@hughes.net> wrote in news:1189499563.313966.184570
@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
On Sep 10, 7:13 pm, wrote:
Control the mass media, control the mass mind, control the world.
Elementary my dear Watson.
Since Quantum Physics experiments show that 10-11 dimensions are
needed to resolve results, then clearly the conventional 3 dimensional
framework is inadequate. Which is not to say, only that there is more
to what passes for reality than meets the eye.
Atheism dont handle that fact very well.
Why?
That there is "more than meets the eye" does not prove - or even suggest
- that that "more" is some sort of deity. Or "mystical" or
"supernatural" or - indeed - anything other than more stuff. And even if
it does prove it...well, all atheists have ever asked theists for was
_some_ sort of proof beyond "but it's in the _book_!"
Or - as it was nicely put in a Diskworld book - if you have _facts_ you
don't _need_ to believe.
BTW, quantum physics has _far_ from "shown" (and _not_ with experiments)
that there are 10-11 dimensions (actually, last I heard someone had it up
to more like 15, with most of those dimensions "curled up" smaller than a
particle. Of course, last I heard, a lot of quantum physicists were
getting "bored" with the whole idea too). It has only _suggested_ that,
if we add these extra dimensions, some of the math works out better.
At best, these extras are shown by _thought_ experiments, not actual,
physical, slam-the-atoms-together experiments. And the whole idea could
very well go in the dustbin in a few years.
And - again - even if real, there's nothing there an "atheist couldn't
handle."
David
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David Johnson home.earthlink.net/~trolleyfan
"So many of you come time and time again to watch this final end of
everything which I think is really wonderful and then to return home to
your own eras and raise families and strive for new and better societies
and fight terrible wars for what you know is right, it gives one real
hope for the whole future of lifekind...
....Except of course we know it hasn't got one."
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| User: "Day Brown" |
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11 Sep 2007 05:37:31 PM |
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On Sep 11, 3:08 pm, David Johnson <trolleyfan_nos...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Day Brown <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote in news:1189499563.313966.184570
@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
On Sep 10, 7:13 pm, wrote:
Control the mass media, control the mass mind, control the world.
Elementary my dear Watson.
Since Quantum Physics experiments show that 10-11 dimensions are
needed to resolve results, then clearly the conventional 3 dimensional
framework is inadequate. Which is not to say, only that there is more
to what passes for reality than meets the eye.
Atheism dont handle that fact very well.
Why?
That there is "more than meets the eye" does not prove - or even suggest
- that that "more" is some sort of deity. Or "mystical" or
"supernatural" or - indeed - anything other than more stuff. And even if
it does prove it...well, all atheists have ever asked theists for was
_some_ sort of proof beyond "but it's in the _book_!"
Because, and I see this *repeatedly* while atheism refutes the
Levantine concept of the alpha male tyrant god, there are concepts
that dont have these problems and dont rely on "faith" as atheists and
the faithful followers of Levantine religions have understood the
term.
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| User: "David Johnson" |
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11 Sep 2007 07:13:26 PM |
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Day Brown <daybrown@hughes.net> wrote in
news:1189550251.043424.91930@b32g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
On Sep 11, 3:08 pm, David Johnson <trolleyfan_nos...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Day Brown <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote in
news:1189499563.313966.184570 @r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
On Sep 10, 7:13 pm, wrote:
Control the mass media, control the mass mind, control the world.
Elementary my dear Watson.
Since Quantum Physics experiments show that 10-11 dimensions are
needed to resolve results, then clearly the conventional 3
dimensional framework is inadequate. Which is not to say, only that
there is more to what passes for reality than meets the eye.
Atheism dont handle that fact very well.
Why?
That there is "more than meets the eye" does not prove - or even
suggest - that that "more" is some sort of deity. Or "mystical" or
"supernatural" or - indeed - anything other than more stuff. And even
if it does prove it...well, all atheists have ever asked theists for
was _some_ sort of proof beyond "but it's in the _book_!"
Because, and I see this *repeatedly* while atheism refutes the
Levantine concept of the alpha male tyrant god, there are concepts
that dont have these problems and dont rely on "faith" as atheists and
the faithful followers of Levantine religions have understood the
term.
Yeah...righttttt.
(back away from the looney, slowly...)
David
--
_______________________________________________________________________
David Johnson home.earthlink.net/~trolleyfan
"So many of you come time and time again to watch this final end of
everything which I think is really wonderful and then to return home to
your own eras and raise families and strive for new and better societies
and fight terrible wars for what you know is right, it gives one real
hope for the whole future of lifekind...
....Except of course we know it hasn't got one."
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| User: "Doug Weller" |
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12 Sep 2007 12:45:46 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:13:26 GMT, in sci.archaeology, David Johnson wrote:
Day Brown <daybrown@hughes.net> wrote in
news:1189550251.043424.91930@b32g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
On Sep 11, 3:08 pm, David Johnson <trolleyfan_nos...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Day Brown <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote in
news:1189499563.313966.184570 @r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
On Sep 10, 7:13 pm, wrote:
Control the mass media, control the mass mind, control the world.
Elementary my dear Watson.
Since Quantum Physics experiments show that 10-11 dimensions are
needed to resolve results, then clearly the conventional 3
dimensional framework is inadequate. Which is not to say, only that
there is more to what passes for reality than meets the eye.
Atheism dont handle that fact very well.
Why?
That there is "more than meets the eye" does not prove - or even
suggest - that that "more" is some sort of deity. Or "mystical" or
"supernatural" or - indeed - anything other than more stuff. And even
if it does prove it...well, all atheists have ever asked theists for
was _some_ sort of proof beyond "but it's in the _book_!"
Because, and I see this *repeatedly* while atheism refutes the
Levantine concept of the alpha male tyrant god, there are concepts
that dont have these problems and dont rely on "faith" as atheists and
the faithful followers of Levantine religions have understood the
term.
Yeah...righttttt.
(back away from the looney, slowly...)
I almost spilled my drink all over the keyboard. Great response, thanks!
David
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Doug Weller --
A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/
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| User: "Day Brown" |
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11 Sep 2007 06:31:33 PM |
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On 2nd thot, while the atheistic attempt to destroy the faith in these
tyrant gods is a good idea, and necessary, it is not sufficient. Too
many are too irrational, and as we see with 20th century atheistic
regimes, only replaces the divine illusion of a father god with the
likes of Mao or Stalin.
Not too swift. But if you replace the father god with a great mother
goddess, the results are better for those who dont wish to worship any
figure, divine or mortal. This has everything to do with hominid
psychology. It should not be hard to imagine the problem a demagogue
would have trying to rile up a mob or an army by claiming that *he*
speaks in *HER* name.
And because that dont work for him, you receive the freedom to think
as you will, and promote atheism if you like. The history is obscure,
but in the Tocharian Silk Road towns run by women, we see intellectual
freedom at levels surpassing even Athens. Kucha didnt deport divergent
political or religious view, but actively *imported them*. As the Silk
Road website mentions, they left documents in 20 different religions.
I dont know of any supporting atheism, but neither were the Levantine
scriptures regarded as worthy of consideration, much less veneration.
Confucius, Buddha, & Lao Tzu didnt claim to be speaking for god. You
were either rational enuf to understand, in which case you got it, or
you were not, in which case you had their compassion. But not
damnation. We read the "wise men" came from "The East". Well, this is
*that* East, so you mite wanna have a look at what they have to say
before you decide that atheism is the most rational system.
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| User: "Doug Weller" |
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12 Sep 2007 12:44:31 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:32:43 -0700, in sci.archaeology, Day Brown wrote:
On Sep 10, 7:13 pm, wrote:
Control the mass media, control the mass mind, control the world.
Elementary my dear Watson.
Since Quantum Physics experiments show that 10-11 dimensions are
needed to resolve results, then clearly the conventional 3 dimensional
framework is inadequate. Which is not to say, only that there is more
to what passes for reality than meets the eye.
Atheism dont handle that fact very well.
Is this guy having us on or does he really believe this?
But neither do the Levantine
scriptures, which have no concept of alternate realities. Saint
Ramprasad gets along just fine with as many dimensions as you need to
make the numbers add up.
--
Doug Weller --
A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/
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