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"A N Niel" |
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13 Sep 2005 07:44:58 AM |
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Re: The Problem with Probability Theory |
For instance, atomic radioactive decay is usually called random
but of course it is a causal process.
According to quantum mechanics?
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| User: "Mh" |
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| Title: Re: The Problem with Probability Theory |
13 Sep 2005 09:11:15 AM |
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"A N Niel" <anniel@nym.alias.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:130920050844585950%anniel@nym.alias.net.invalid...
For instance, atomic radioactive decay is usually called random
but of course it is a causal process.
According to quantum mechanics?
If it is not random, can you predict when the next ray or particle will be
emitted?
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| User: "Evgenij Barsukov" |
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| Title: Re: The Problem with Probability Theory |
13 Sep 2005 08:23:01 AM |
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A N Niel wrote:
For instance, atomic radioactive decay is usually called random
but of course it is a causal process.
According to quantum mechanics?
Quantum mechanics is the funniest thing. Because it only deals with
probability amplitudes applied to the smallest known properties, it
implies that random events are fundamental in their nature and not a
result of multiple causal events that average themselfs.
You might like it or not but that is how it is. Personaly, I like it
because I believe infinity (and correspondingly, fundamental randomness)
are inherent and most basic properties (and even reasons of existance)
of our reality. QM is fundamentaly consistent with this worldview.
Regards,
Evgenij
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| User: "Ian Parker" |
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| Title: Re: The Problem with Probability Theory |
13 Sep 2005 09:58:28 AM |
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Look, you don't need to go to Quantum mechanics to play dice as
Einstein put it. In fact chaos theory produces a need for more and more
accurate measurement, which is tantamount to a continuous inflow of
information.
Quantum mechanics simply states a probability. There may be a deeper
theory which makes a particular radioactive atom decay at a particular
time, but it is not quantum theory. Certainly not in its present form.
If you postulate time travel and self consistent Feynman diagrams you
would then have a theory that might be able to do such a thing. It is
not however classical Quantum Theory.
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| User: "Orion" |
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| Title: Re: The Problem with Probability Theory |
13 Sep 2005 12:21:44 PM |
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Not everything is mathematical. Decay is one of the physical processes
which cannot be explained by mathematics.
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| User: "Puppet_Sock" |
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| Title: Re: The Problem with Probability Theory |
13 Sep 2005 01:33:38 PM |
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Orion wrote:
Not everything is mathematical. Decay is one of the physical processes
which cannot be explained by mathematics.
Try as I might I can't seem to assign any meaning to your
statement. Can you rephrase?
Socks
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