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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "brian a m stuckless"
Date: 06 Apr 2006 02:21:38 AM
Object: Re: Time Dilation Test
$$ Tom [ He BUFFY between his error-bars ] Roberts to Peri of Pera:

Tom Roberts wrote:

In fact, such measurements _have_ been performed over many years
by comparing clocks located at various [ELEVATiONs] countries'
standards organizations (e.g. Greenwich, Paris, Washington DC,
Boulder CO, ...).
The need to correct for the effects predicted by [ ..the OLD
NEWTONiAN g = 4*(pi)^2 lbob/tbob^2 PENDuLUM ALTiMETER "CLOCK"]
GR is well established to high accuracy.
This includes time dilation due to the earth's rotation
(reflected in the altitude of the geoid), and gravitational
redshift due to height above the geoid.

$$ Coy GR Test-POiNT-mass.
$$ [A GR TEST-mass (a GR POiNT-mass) canNOT have a BULGE].
$$
$$ A GR "geoid" REQUiREs the "mixing" of FRAMEs ..at ONCE.
$$ [Theoretically, there was NO "geoid-POiNT-mass" in GR].
$$
$$ There is NO theoretical GR POiNT-mass of VARiOUS radii.

Tom, I understand that you believe there are other factors
involved in time dilation such as the geoid.


That is not a "belief", that is an experimentally observed _fact_.

$$ Yes. But it WAS NOT a FACT in ANY THEORETiCAL aspect, of GR.

Does the geoid or some other fudge apply in the twin paradox ?


The geoid is not a "fudge". And whether or not it applies to the
twin paradox depends on the physical situation being discussed
and the accuracy of measurement.

H&K compared their flying clocks with a stationary one in Denver.

-=-

Your number is wrong. But yes, one must take into account both
motion and gravitation when comparing clocks accurately. <shrug>

$$ NO. You *NEED* take into account ..*ONLY* the clock's ALTiTUDE.


There are many atomic clocks located in many countries.
Have they ever reported time dilation differences


Yes. You are supposed to read what I wrote (to which you are
responding). They must correct for altitude relative to the geoid, and
they do so all the time. <shrug>

$$ Yes. But there is NO "POiNT-mass TEST-geoid" ..in GR Tivity.

or does it only apply to theoreticals like the twin paradox?


See above. You must specify more precisely what you are thinking of.

The twin paradox is not merely "theoretical" -- it has been
experimentally observed (see the FAQ: Bailley et al, Haefle and
Keating, and also C.Alley).

$$ Utter NonSENSE. There was ABSOLUTELY no NEED of their "aeroplane".
$$ Utter NonSENSE. There was ABSOLUTELY noTHiNG NEEDed except HEiGHT.
$$
$$ A GR TEST-POiNT-mass canNOT HAVE VARiOUS radii, or Robert's BULGE.
$$
$$ Sincerely, ```Brian A M Stuckless, Ph.T (Tivity).

Tom [ He BUFFY between his error-bars ] Roberts


Re: Time Dilation Test. Re: Coy GR Test-POiNT-mass.
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