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User: "Jean-Paul Turcaud mining_pioneer at yahoo.com"
Date: 31 Jul 2005 04:50:42 PM
Object: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY
The Maori do not come from anywhere.
The Maori were part of a Civilisation spreading across the whole Pacific
until approx 12000 years ago.
The Maoris are a white race, part of the Land of Mu, which was destroyed as
well as its 60 millions inhabitants 11 700 years ago ... then Australia
emerged from the sea;
.... and the Glaciations are the traces left by that extraordinary event,
which saw parallely the Alpine Folding ... and all the mountains Ranges
hence ( Rockies, Andes, Alpes, Himalayas etc ) .... in less than 6 hours
instead of the 60 millions years proposed by the Imbeciles of the Orthodox
Geology
.... and the Maoris have kept the souvenir of what happened, as well as of
the superior civilisation of the Pacific ! BIRTH PLACE OF HUMANITY AND NOT
AFRICA AS SO MANY FOOLS PRETEND !
.... but I will not tell you that wondrous tale as yet...
I will have first to teach you to open your eyes and observe before you, and
across the whole world indeed , the inescapable evidence of :
THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION
--
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist
Discoverer and Legal Owner of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines
The Great Sandy Desert of Australia
Founder of the True Geology
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"benlizross" <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> a écrit dans le message de news:
42ED38C6.5CE0@ihug.co.nz...

qiwi wrote:


Quote from Ross Clark :
"....the immediate origin of the Maori, from which they brought the
kumara to Aotearoa, was in fact in the east (Cook Islands, Tahiti)"

We have already dealt with this at length Ross.... remember?
The Cook Islands have had more research carried out than any other
group in Polynesia. Throughout the 1990s a large number of
archaeologists carried out projects in both the Northern and Southern
Cooks. Much to everyones surprise no carbon-date earlier than 1000 AD
was found. Now Doug Yen has argued convincingly that the kumara entered
east Polynesia at the time of first settlement or shortly thereafter as
evidenced by its its early presence in Rapa Nui.


How is this "early presence" determined? Direct archaeological evidence
of kumara is just about nil.

Since Rapa Nui was

settled at least 600 years before the Cooks I suggest your 'Hawaiki' in
the Cooks scenario is complete nonsense.


No, this does not make sense, except if you assume that the oral
traditions talk about "original homeland of the Polynesians", which, as
I have pointed out, they do not. All they say is that Hawaiki was a
place where some of the ancestors lived, and from which they brought the
kumara. Rapa Nui has nothing to do with it.

Ross Clark

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User: "MorituriMax"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 31 Jul 2005 07:23:24 PM
"Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:42ed47ba$0$22303$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...

... but I will not tell you that wondrous tale as yet...

Why don't you do us all a favor and stop telling us ANY of your little home
brewed fairy tales.
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User: "Alaca"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 31 Jul 2005 08:03:11 PM
MorituriMax wrote: 0YdHe.56884$gL1.35804@tornado.texas.rr.com,

"Jean-Paul Turcaud" wrote

... but I will not tell you that wondrous tale as yet...

Why don't you do us all a favor and stop telling us ANY of your
little home brewed fairy tales.

*EXTRAORDINARY EVENT !!*
I will teach you to
OPEN YOUR EYES
and observe before you
THE INESCAPABLE,
and
NEVER FORGIVEN
*JEAN-PAUL TURCAUD*
Cyclonic and Granulometric

AS NEVER BEFORE!
Founder of the
Great Sandy Desert of Australia!!
IN LESS THAN 6 HOURS !
Thhis message is sponsored by Mu
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User: "MorituriMax"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 01 Aug 2005 12:58:32 AM
"Alaca" <P.Alaca@3075.NN> wrote in message
news:42ed7503$0$31222$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl...

*EXTRAORDINARY EVENT !!*

He thinks it's extroardinary to use caps keys... whew.. gasp..
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User: "deowll"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 31 Jul 2005 09:43:57 PM
"Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:42ed47ba$0$22303$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...

The Maori do not come from anywhere.
The Maori were part of a Civilisation spreading across the whole Pacific
until approx 12000 years ago.

The Maoris are a white race, part of the Land of Mu, which was destroyed
as well as its 60 millions inhabitants 11 700 years ago ... then
Australia emerged from the sea;

... and the Glaciations are the traces left by that extraordinary event,
which saw parallely the Alpine Folding ... and all the mountains Ranges
hence ( Rockies, Andes, Alpes, Himalayas etc ) .... in less than 6 hours
instead of the 60 millions years proposed by the Imbeciles of the Orthodox
Geology

... and the Maoris have kept the souvenir of what happened, as well as of
the superior civilisation of the Pacific ! BIRTH PLACE OF HUMANITY AND NOT
AFRICA AS SO MANY FOOLS PRETEND !

... but I will not tell you that wondrous tale as yet...

I will have first to teach you to open your eyes and observe before you,
and across the whole world indeed , the inescapable evidence of :

THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION

--
Jean-Paul Turcaud

Exploration Geologist
Discoverer and Legal Owner of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines
The Great Sandy Desert of Australia

Founder of the True Geology

~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~



I removed some sane comments. You know guy. I never thought I'd say this but
you are starting to make Ed Conrad, Plutonium and the other net loons look
sane.
Does anyone know if this guy is a Troll or truly whacked?
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User: ""

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 01 Aug 2005 07:26:52 PM
deowll wrote:


Does anyone know if this guy is a Troll or truly whacked?

Geier's third law:
Any sufficiently evolved incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
cordially
Y.T.
--
Remove YourClothes before you email me.
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User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 31 Jul 2005 05:16:38 PM
"Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:42ed47ba$0$22303$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...

The Maori do not come from anywhere.
The Maori were part of a Civilisation spreading across the whole Pacific
until approx 12000 years ago.

The Maoris are a white race, part of the Land of Mu, which was destroyed
as well as its 60 millions inhabitants 11 700 years ago ... then
Australia emerged from the sea;

... and the Glaciations are the traces left by that extraordinary event,
which saw parallely the Alpine Folding ... and all the mountains Ranges
hence ( Rockies, Andes, Alpes, Himalayas etc ) .... in less than 6 hours
instead of the 60 millions years proposed by the Imbeciles of the Orthodox
Geology

Baez Crackpot Index #2. Multiple counts. +several points.


... and the Maoris have kept the souvenir of what happened, as well as of
the superior civilisation of the Pacific ! BIRTH PLACE OF HUMANITY AND NOT
AFRICA AS SO MANY FOOLS PRETEND !

BCI #7. 12 counts. +60 points.


... but I will not tell you that wondrous tale as yet...

Baez Crackpot Index #26. +20 points.


I will have first to teach you to open your eyes and observe before you,
and across the whole world indeed , the inescapable evidence of :

THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION

BCI #27. +50 points.


--
Jean-Paul Turcaud

Exploration Geologist
Discoverer and Legal Owner of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines
The Great Sandy Desert of Australia

Founder of the True Geology

So that comes to a BCI of 130+.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html
I'd say Turcaud qualifies as a crackpot.
--
rb
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User: "Bob Officer"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 02 Aug 2005 07:31:54 PM
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 22:16:38 GMT, in sci.geo.earthquakes, "Ron Baker,
Pluralitas!" <stoshu@bellsouth.net.pa> wrote:


"Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:42ed47ba$0$22303$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...

The Maori do not come from anywhere.
The Maori were part of a Civilisation spreading across the whole Pacific
until approx 12000 years ago.

The Maoris are a white race, part of the Land of Mu, which was destroyed
as well as its 60 millions inhabitants 11 700 years ago ... then
Australia emerged from the sea;

... and the Glaciations are the traces left by that extraordinary event,
which saw parallely the Alpine Folding ... and all the mountains Ranges
hence ( Rockies, Andes, Alpes, Himalayas etc ) .... in less than 6 hours
instead of the 60 millions years proposed by the Imbeciles of the Orthodox
Geology


Baez Crackpot Index #2. Multiple counts. +several points.


... and the Maoris have kept the souvenir of what happened, as well as of
the superior civilisation of the Pacific ! BIRTH PLACE OF HUMANITY AND NOT
AFRICA AS SO MANY FOOLS PRETEND !


BCI #7. 12 counts. +60 points.


... but I will not tell you that wondrous tale as yet...


Baez Crackpot Index #26. +20 points.


I will have first to teach you to open your eyes and observe before you,
and across the whole world indeed , the inescapable evidence of :

THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION



BCI #27. +50 points.


--
Jean-Paul Turcaud

Exploration Geologist
Discoverer and Legal Owner of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines
The Great Sandy Desert of Australia

Founder of the True Geology


So that comes to a BCI of 130+.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html
I'd say Turcaud qualifies as a crackpot.

Without a doubt...
--
Ak'toh'di
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User: "Jean-Paul Turcaud mining_pioneer at yahoo.com"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 03 Aug 2005 12:25:28 AM
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@invalid.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
9340f1lka3tjeve3c56qfdpcqh4oqg3oad@4ax.com...

So that comes to a BCI of 130+.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html
I'd say Turcaud qualifies as a crackpot.


Without a doubt...

.... and you as an idiot
jp

--
Ak'toh'di

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User: "Ben Rudiak-Gould"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 03 Aug 2005 07:44:56 AM
Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:

"Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer at yahoo.com> wrote:

Jean-Paul Turcaud

Exploration Geologist
Discoverer and Legal Owner of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines
The Great Sandy Desert of Australia

Founder of the True Geology


So that comes to a BCI of 130+.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html
I'd say Turcaud qualifies as a crackpot.

They wanted me to benefit humanity! They wanted me to expand the
frontiers of knowledge! So they sent me into geology, thinking a
geologist could never go mad! "Whoever heard of a mad geologist?",
they thought. And so I went mad--just to show them!
-- Dr. Sapient Prugrave
-- Ben
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User: "Mark Fergerson"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 05 Aug 2005 11:56:17 AM
Jean-Paul Turcaud wrote:


The Maori do not come from anywhere.
The Maori were part of a Civilisation spreading across the whole Pacific
until approx 12000 years ago.

Mitochondrial DNA says otherwise.

The Maoris are a white race, part of the Land of Mu, which was destroyed as
well as its 60 millions inhabitants 11 700 years ago ... then Australia
emerged from the sea;

Wrong timescale. And what is "a white race" supposed to mean,
especially considering the Maoris have the "alcoholism gene" that
most people considered "white" don't? The Maori call their
occasional reddish-haired sports "Urukehu", which display no
specific Caucasoid characteristics.
While you're at it, please explain their dentition (number of
cusps per molar) which is distinctly non-Caucasian.
Oh, and the fact that they call their Great Motherland
"Havai'iki" is especially revealing.

... and the Glaciations are the traces left by that extraordinary event,
which saw parallely the Alpine Folding ... and all the mountains Ranges
hence ( Rockies, Andes, Alpes, Himalayas etc ) .... in less than 6 hours
instead of the 60 millions years proposed by the Imbeciles of the Orthodox
Geology

Creationist twaddle.

... and the Maoris have kept the souvenir of what happened, as well as of
the superior civilisation of the Pacific ! BIRTH PLACE OF HUMANITY AND NOT
AFRICA AS SO MANY FOOLS PRETEND !

Pot. Kettle. Black.

... but I will not tell you that wondrous tale as yet...

You have told no "wondrous tales" at all. You have merely
confirmed your inability to come to grips with reality.

I will have first to teach you to open your eyes and observe before you, and
across the whole world indeed , the inescapable evidence of :

THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION

No such thing.
Mark L. Fergerson
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User: "Jean-Paul Turcaud* mining_pioneer at yahoo.com"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 05 Aug 2005 03:11:48 PM
Hello Mark.
I have read your remarks.
I know some of the things I say are not acceptable... but later you will see
that what you believe might not be true.
jp
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"Mark Fergerson" <nunya@biz.ness> a écrit dans le message de news:
RSMIe.74082$ro.28747@fed1read02...

THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION


No such thing.


Mark L. Fergerson

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User: "Mark Fergerson"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 18 Aug 2005 10:56:09 AM
Jean-Paul Turcaud* wrote:

Hello Mark.
I have read your remarks.

Well, I hoped I wasn't whistling in the wind.

I know some of the things I say are not acceptable... but later you will see
that what you believe might not be true.

As you ought to know from our previous conversations, I am
uninterested in beliefs, but rather prefer unambiguous evidence.
At one time or another you have presented many things as fact
which I must consider beliefs as there is at best ambiguous evidence
for or against them; I try to ignore these things, but I must ask
you how you square your beliefs vis-a-vis "the great Celtic God"
with your insistence that the Maori are a "white race" (which you
have still not defined, by the way) in the face of counterevidence
like their mitochondrial DNA, their dentition, hair structure,
facial hair patterns, genetic predisposition towards alcoholism, and
so on.
At other times you have presented alternate interpretations of
geological evidence anyone may examine. I am fully aware that you
support one of several "catastrophic" interpretations rather than
any of the "smooth progression" models, the latter of which is the
generally-accepted model.
I tend to accept the latter simply because it requires the least
gap-filling when examining the available evidence. I refer to the
kind of gap-filling Ed Conrad does with his "man as old as coal"
diatribes to cite an extreme, one to which you have not (yet) gone.
You adhere to your preferred catastrophic model apparently
because it fits your theological and sociological preconceptions; I
have over time noticed and stripped away as many of _my_
preconceptions (inherited from my parents and the society I was
raised in) as I could, and am still in that process. As a result I
do not have to support contradictions like the complaints I mention
above re: the Maori.
Also, I'd like to mention yet again that your posts here always
refer to a coherent background to your model _which you never
describe explicitly_. I strongly suspect that's because you quite
properly suspect that if you did explicitly describe it, you'd get
even more derision than you so far have, if that's possible. But
derision is meaningless if it's directed at _verifiable_ truth,
which you believe you are in possession of.
So here's a challenge for your intellectual integrity; please
present a post (preferably in a new thread) laying out in explicit
detail your "True Geology" with all the bells and whistles to which
you've so far merely alluded. If it's as complete and
self-consistent as you believe it is it will gain support on its own
merit. If it isn't, well, you have nothing to lose but your
illusions. Have you the requisite courage of your convictions?
Mark L. Fergerson
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User: "Limestone-Cowboy"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 18 Aug 2005 05:37:19 PM
Big spanner in small works.
Does a susceptibility to alcoholism indicate that one is black.
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User: "Pergo"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 31 Jul 2005 08:32:08 PM
Jean-Paul Turcaud wrote:

The Maoris are a white race, part of the Land of Mu, which was destroyed as
well as its 60 millions inhabitants 11 700 years ago ... then Australia
emerged from the sea;

this sum ups the fact that you absolutely live on a different world,


... and the Glaciations are the traces left by that extraordinary event,
which saw parallely the Alpine Folding ... and all the mountains Ranges
hence ( Rockies, Andes, Alpes, Himalayas etc ) .... in less than 6 hours
instead of the 60 millions years proposed by the Imbeciles of the Orthodox
Geology

....where mountains and continents are formed within hours


... and the Maoris have kept the souvenir of what happened, as well as of
the superior civilisation of the Pacific ! BIRTH PLACE OF HUMANITY AND NOT
AFRICA AS SO MANY FOOLS PRETEND !

....where extinct people gave birth to billions.


... but I will not tell you that wondrous tale as yet...

oh no, please do!


I will have first to teach you to open your eyes and observe before you, and
across the whole world indeed , the inescapable evidence of :

THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION

wow; very scientific!
Get a job hippy..
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User: "Hatunen"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 31 Jul 2005 11:53:01 PM
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:50:42 +0200, "Jean-Paul Turcaud"
<mining_pioneer at yahoo.com> wrote:

The Maori do not come from anywhere.
The Maori were part of a Civilisation spreading across the whole Pacific
until approx 12000 years ago.

The Maoris are a white race, part of the Land of Mu, which was destroyed as
well as its 60 millions inhabitants 11 700 years ago ... then Australia
emerged from the sea;

I realize it's pointless pointing anything out to you, but I will
anyway: it's well known where the Maoris came from. They are one
of the Polynesian groups that spread across the Pacific ocean
reaching as far as Hawai'i and Easter island.
************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
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User: "Jean-Paul Turcaud mining_pioneer at yahoo.com"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 31 Jul 2005 11:07:08 PM
Interesting replies from all my friends... thank you very much.
I note also that you are all as dumb & pretentious as ever, and I again
thank you for it !
Indeed in so doing, you are confirming my thesis regarding the
impossibility of reforming Universilities programmed minds
I will reply to you all now in a new post called "The Sci000ntific Cow", in
which of course I am describing you all as truly as possible.
Please make allowance for my limitations in covering the whole field of your
Incompetence & Sci000ntific Superstition.
You must know that a dozen True Geologists like me working around the clock
for a full year, would not even nip at the Monumental Construction of your
Academic Stupidity
Thank you in advance.
Still, I will go ahead in later expounding one of the simplest of the True
Geology teaching, based on observation indeed, which is :
THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION
Of course, you will not understand !
Normal as well as Expected !
Replying now to my friend David Hatunen :
Get some clue, Mate !
With kindest regards
--
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist
Discoverer and Legal Owner of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines
The Great Sandy Desert of Australia
Founder of the True Geology
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"Hatunen" <hatuunen@cox.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
5iare1p07140rc3k291r3g8ignh3gh5sdk@4ax.com...
snipped David 's unaware rant.
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User: ""

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 01 Aug 2005 03:22:52 PM
Jean-Paul:
I hereby confirm your confirmation of your thesis regarding "the
impossibility of reforming Universities programmed minds"
I also confirm your confirmation that all major mountain ranges --
Rockies, Andes, Alpes, Himalayas. -- were formed "in less than 6 hours
instead of the 60 million years proposed by the Imbeciles of the
Orthodox."
I further confirm, Mate, that you are one of the sanest, courageous
geologists out there.
However, I am sad to inform you that you'll never get a job with the
U.S. Department of the Interior or the Smithsonian Institution.
As someone once said -- I forget who -- today's Establishment
geologists are nothing but a band of "zombified blokes."

-- Ed Conrad

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User: "Jean-Paul Turcaud mining_pioneer at yahoo.com"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 01 Aug 2005 04:48:21 PM
Thank you Ed.
You can write to me direct, if you wish.
You are most welcome.
jp
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
<edconrad@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
1122927772.753850.53940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Jean-Paul:
I hereby confirm your confirmation of your thesis regarding "the
impossibility of reforming Universities programmed minds"
I also confirm your confirmation that all major mountain ranges --
Rockies, Andes, Alpes, Himalayas. -- were formed "in less than 6 hours
instead of the 60 million years proposed by the Imbeciles of the
Orthodox."
I further confirm, Mate, that you are one of the sanest, courageous
geologists out there.
However, I am sad to inform you that you'll never get a job with the
U.S. Department of the Interior or the Smithsonian Institution.
As someone once said -- I forget who -- today's Establishment
geologists are nothing but a band of "zombified blokes."

-- Ed
Conrad


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User: "Pergo \pergo14\@yh -"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 01 Aug 2005 06:29:24 PM
Hi Jean-Paul;
I have to confess that I am really interested in your "capitalised"
theory. I really do.
Knowing nothing other than it involves the events you have mentioned in
earlier posts(emergence of Australia; formation of mountain ranges in
hours etc...) which have been taken place some 10-12000 years ago;
wouldn't it be more appropriate to call "(eo)holocene" rather than
pleistocene. And pleistocene reachs up to nearly 1.8 million years. If
we have to consider it on an hourly basis; pleistocene would
extraordinarily long for that.
Well at least I assume that you accept the timescale in use; otherwise
you would not be using "pleistocene"
Cheers
Pergus A.
Jean-Paul Turcaud wrote:


Hence, since I have mentioned time and time again
THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION


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User: "Jean-Paul Turcaud mining_pioneer at yahoo.com"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 02 Aug 2005 05:16:37 AM
What a most intelligent post ! Congratulations !
Indeed the Time Scale I use is false, since this is the one of the Orthodox
Gogology.
The Time Column of the True Geology is an absolute Time Scale related to
both the Distance from Mother Star, on the Sun Equatorial Plane hence and
our Local Energy Gradient.
( with conversion in Cosmic Density Atmosphere by computing pressure &
temperature within the UPL framework )
As you know the Official Time Scale is based on Lyell 's schizophrenic view
of time lapses between the Subduction of the Wales Ranges down to 300 m
below MSL and its Surrection again to present position. All this to justify
the gathering of 12 fossil molluscs on top of said Ranges ( well documented
case ) All this is based indeed on that Academic Sacred Cow's invention of
Uniformism, and on the 4 pillars sustaining the fraudulent Gogology since
160 years now. . That Time Column is as well based on the observation of
fossils, and the implied relation between strata and time ...which does not
exist at all in fact, as we shall see !
... Yes, we will study this in due time, as well as the origin of Limestone
beds which have nothing to do with degradations of fossils bones, as those
Academic Fools of Oxford, Paris and Boston etc beuuuuulieve ! Indeed Cows
Beuuuuuuu_lieve !
Now back to you comment, the Biber Glaciations is indicated to go back to
the start of the Pliocene ( Tertiary) i.e. 5 millionzzz yearzzz ago !
All that time calculation ( mind manipulation indeed ) being based on the
estimated rate of Continental Rafting brining in turn Continents into
Glaaacial Climates for Glaaaaaciations to take place !
( so funny if it was not so sad, indeed countless trusting young people have
had their brain and life ruined ... since dying as idiots clinging up to
last breath onto worthless Universities degreeeezzz )
So, please do not worry about that completely ludicrous approach to the
problem.
THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION
is in fact a World Wide Observation, and explain with great elegance indeed
by the True Geology.
It is a plain observation on the Granulometric Pattern of ALL UNCONSOLIDATED
SEDIMENTATIONS ROUND THE WORLD ... so evident soon when I will have shown it
to you.
Of course nothing of the kind is related in Sedimentology text books, since
it would immediately deflate the Gogology Fools 's Glaciations Balloon.
( On the other hand one must make allowance for those poor people's
shortcoming since none is a True Geologist indeed ! )
As well not a word in Sedimentology text books the world over, concerning
the Zillions of tone of material available to cover and level plains in
Europe, Africa; Asia, Americas and Oceania.
Incidentally the Official process of Erosion, as spouted forth in those
books is completely ludicrous as well
... but all this things will fall into place as the True Geology is
explained to you.
NOW, back to starting blocks, after that most comprehensive dissertation on
the limitations of the Low Forehead Ruminating Sci000ntific Hierarchy,
compared to the strikingly clear understanding provided by the True Geology
!
I have a question to you Mr Pergus !
:
WHAT does,
THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION
means to you ???
With kind regards
NB Remember, as said previously, I want you to have a sweat, since the
True Geology is going to be yours as well as it is mine now. I will guide
you, ask question and then provide the answers.
But all those interested in the True Geology will have to participate.
Only at this very small price indeed are you going to free yourself from
Centuries of Academic Frauds ' Criminal Intellectual Enslaving.
--
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist
Discoverer and Legal Owner of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines
The Great Sandy Desert of Australia
Founder of the True Geology
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"Pergo <"pergo14"@yh" <"-> a écrit dans le message de news:
42eeb058$0$22311$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...

Hi Jean-Paul;

I have to confess that I am really interested in your "capitalised"
theory. I really do.

Knowing nothing other than it involves the events you have mentioned in
earlier posts(emergence of Australia; formation of mountain ranges in
hours etc...) which have been taken place some 10-12000 years ago;
wouldn't it be more appropriate to call "(eo)holocene" rather than
pleistocene. And pleistocene reachs up to nearly 1.8 million years. If we
have to consider it on an hourly basis; pleistocene would extraordinarily
long for that.

Well at least I assume that you accept the timescale in use; otherwise you
would not be using "pleistocene"

Cheers


Pergus A.



Jean-Paul Turcaud wrote:


Hence, since I have mentioned time and time again
THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION



.
User: "Pergo"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 02 Aug 2005 05:57:38 AM
Hi Jean-Paul;
Well, it seems to define specific structures of sediments based on grain
size, which have probably been formed by fierce atmospheric phenomena
during pleistocene.
And I would like to know if those patterns show any discrepancy
according to their (former or actual) geographical position?
Cheers
Pergus
Jean-Paul Turcaud wrote:

I have a question to you Mr Pergus !
:
WHAT does,
THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION
means to you ???

With kind regards

.
User: "Jean-Paul Turcaud mining_pioneer at yahoo.com"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 03 Aug 2005 12:44:20 AM
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"Pergo" <pergo14@yh.aoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
42ef51a7$0$1249$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...

Hi Jean-Paul;

Well, it seems to define specific structures of sediments based on grain
size, which have probably been formed by fierce atmospheric phenomena
during pleistocene.

Good try, but the" modus operandi " is false.
Remember the investigation tool of the True Geology ? ... Back engineering
!!!


And I would like to know if those patterns show any discrepancy according
to their (former or actual) geographical position?

You will know about it soon since I will start anew a thread on that
subject.
By discrepancy, I assume you mean displacement?
Of course then ... and huge displacements spanning continents for the
lighter material.
.... and further, you will be able to prove to yourself in the field & in
literature the validity of those observations.
When I say literature, I mean not only Physical Geography but as well
Geological literature !!!!
Still, I am intimately persuaded that the Sci000ntific Cows will deny ....
even though it's before their very beastly eyes.
jp
Cheers


Pergus


Jean-Paul Turcaud wrote:

I have a question to you Mr Pergus !
:
WHAT does,
THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF PLEISTOCENE SEDIMENTATION
means to you ???

With kind regards

.
User: "Limestone-Cowboy"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 04 Aug 2005 05:40:12 PM
Ed and JPT having a discussion is like a turd complimenting a pile of
puke on it's appearance. Relative yet totally pointless.
.
User: "Jean-Paul Turcaud* mining_pioneer at yahoo.com"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 05 Aug 2005 12:37:09 AM
and you sterile imbecile and Glaciations fool indeed, have noticed how you
are lead by the nose ?
--
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist
Discoverer and Legal Owner of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines
The Great Sandy Desert of Australia
Founder of the True Geology
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"Limestone-Cowboy" <limestone-cowboy@founditlimited.co.uk> a écrit dans le
message de news: 42f2982b$0$91506$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...

Ed and JPT having a discussion is like a turd complimenting a pile of puke
on it's appearance. Relative yet totally pointless.

.
User: "Tom McDonald"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 05 Aug 2005 04:13:04 AM
Jean-Paul Turcaud* wrote:

and you sterile imbecile and Glaciations fool indeed, have noticed how you
are lead by the nose ?

Well, no; I haven't, at least. Perhaps that will change when you
unfold your theories to us.
--
Tom McDonald
http://ahwhatdoiknow.blogspot.com/
.
User: "Philip Deitiker"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 05 Aug 2005 09:44:15 AM
Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> says in
news:P5GIe.147$Mq4.94@fe05.lga:

Jean-Paul Turcaud* wrote:

and you sterile imbecile and Glaciations fool indeed, have
noticed how you are lead by the nose ?


Well, no; I haven't, at least. Perhaps that will change
when you
unfold your theories to us.

That sounds like a decent name for a rock band:
"Sterile Imbecile and the Glaciating Fools"
.


User: "Limestone-Cowboy"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 05 Aug 2005 04:16:22 AM
Jean-Paul Turcaud* wrote:

and you sterile imbecile and Glaciations fool indeed, have noticed how you
are lead by the nose ?

Your ideas don't fit the evidence I see everytime I dig a pit or sink a
borehole in glacial or glaciofluvial deposits.
.
User: "Jean-Paul Turcaud* mining_pioneer at yahoo.com"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 05 Aug 2005 02:49:59 PM
Just wait.
I will start another thread on that subject soon.
Today I have been flying all day in a friend's B-90 + in a B2 Eurocopter,
just back then to have dinner ... and I will think now about the new thread
through the week end.
It 's going to be called
THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF SEDIMENTOLOGY** !
.... replacing indeed that previous theory of the True Geology called
"Cyclonic Granulometric Pattern of Pleistocene Sedimentation" .
Indeed Pergus ' remark was thought provoking, and although previous name
was correct, it 's not wide enough as a definition, since the
observations** is valid for the Holocene, the Pleistocene and the Pliocene
as well .... and further still, as I was expecting people not to make that
remark ( Pergus noted that point though) since none of those datations are
of any value to the True Geology, why use them.indeed.
( Proper Time Column of the True Geology will be exposed later to your
scrutiny )
ALL THE MORE since it does apply as well to anterior epochs going back to
the Jurassic, and even back to the Cambrian !!!
See, Limestone ?
( additional comment below your post )
As already said to Tom Mc Donald , the True Geology is yours as well as
mine.... and Pergus ' contribution illustrates this .
As you know my friend Dr Don Finlay of Perth is co-founder of the True
Geology... but everyone is welcome to join that Collegial World Wide
Institution.
With best regards
.....
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist
Discoverer and Legal Owner of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines
The Great Sandy Desert of Australia
Founder of the True Geology
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"Limestone-Cowboy" <limestone-cowboy@founditlimited.co.uk> a écrit dans le
message de news: 42f32d49$0$3508$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...

Jean-Paul Turcaud* wrote:

and you sterile imbecile and Glaciations fool indeed, have noticed how
you are lead by the nose ?

Your ideas don't fit the evidence I see everytime I dig a pit or sink a
borehole in glacial or glaciofluvial deposits.

They do !
Glacial or fluvioglacial deposist have nothing to do with Glaciers.
If you like playing puns you should leave True Geology out of your play on
word.... it is a serious matter indeed.
.
User: "Pergo"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 05 Aug 2005 07:52:12 PM
Hi Jean-Paul;
I am really looking forward to that thread.
Cheers
Pergus
Jean-Paul Turcaud* wrote:

Just wait.
I will start another thread on that subject soon.

Today I have been flying all day in a friend's B-90 + in a B2 Eurocopter,
just back then to have dinner ... and I will think now about the new thread
through the week end.

It 's going to be called
THE CYCLONIC GRANULOMETRIC PATTERN OF SEDIMENTOLOGY** !

... replacing indeed that previous theory of the True Geology called

"Cyclonic Granulometric Pattern of Pleistocene Sedimentation" .

.

User: "Bob Officer"

Title: Re: TRADITION vs THEORY 05 Aug 2005 03:27:41 PM
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 21:49:59 +0200, in sci.geo.earthquakes, "Jean-Paul
Turcaud*" <mining_pioneer at yahoo.com> wrote:

Just wait.
I will start another thread on that subject soon.

Today I have been flying all day in a friend's B-90 + in a B2 Eurocopter,
just back then to have dinner ... and I will think now about the new thread
through the week end.

I hope the Euro-copter is "properly maintained..." or at least has the
system fix.
Most all the euro copters in the US are grounded.
--
Ak'toh'di
.














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