$$ Yes Daniel, an EXCELLENT ANALOGY of the "PEGGED" VELOCiTY c.!!
$$ For the Pioneer anomaly, you TiLT the floor ..just a little.!!
$$ [Just enough to cause a SMALL increase in the mouse-velocity].
$$ This will help you SiMULATE the AMBiENT GRADiENT of DENSiTY.!!
$$ [There's an AMBiENT DENSiTY GRADiENT between EARth & Pioneer].
$$
$$ You can ELiMiNATE your GOLF-cart scenario, altogether, Daniel.
$$ NOW you drop the mouse ("PEGGED" at 3 mph), at the START LiNE.
$$ [Of course, the mouse will "actually" accelerate, DOWN-grade].
$$ [Of course, the mouse ACCELERATEs, _AWAY FROM_ the OBSERVERs].
$$
$$ But, the OBSERVERs have DECLARED the 3 mph to be a CONSTANT.!!
$$ [ Having DECLARED the "CONSTANCY-of-the-VELOCiTY-of-MiCE".!! ]
$$
$$ So, ALL the GR OBSERVERs must agree (especially Ph.Tivitists):
$$
$$ 1. The VELOCiTY of the MOUSE has NOT been ALTERED in the TEST.!!
$$ The mouse's velocity, in fact, REMAiNED _iNCREDiBLY_ CONSTANT.!!
$$ [And, has _REMAiNED_ iNCREDiBLY CONSTANT, since the BiG BANG].!!
$$
$$ 2. SCiENTiST measure _ABSOLUTELY_ NO TiLT in gym floor at all.!!
$$ [i.e. SCiENTiSTs CONFiRM there is NO SLOPE DiSTANCE to MEASURE.]
$$
$$ Note, HORiZONTAL DiSTANCE times 3 mph = SLOPE DiSTANCE times X.
$$
$$ CONCLUSiON: This is VERY MUCH, _QUiTE like_ the PiONEER ANOMALY.!!
Yeah.!! Yeah VERiLY VERiLY, i re-reiterate NOW so ye will know THEN.
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$$ Go-go Google GROUP SEARCH < My BiGGER bang.!! > dooOP. ```Brian.
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CLOSE: Brian A M Stuckless ..over & OUT.
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Daniel Weston wrote: >
There is this sticky problem in SR of the SOL being constant wrt
the observer, and independent of the speed of the emitter. After
some reflection I came up with the following:
I recently bought for my grandson a mechanical mouse that runs
by a motor that is battery powered. It is remotely controllable,
but let that be irrelevant hereafter.
As a gedankin do the following: Take the mouse to a large gym
together with a golf cart. Set up the mouse to go in a straight
line. On the east end of the gym are scientists that will be
measuring the speed of the mouse as it goes over a 10 ft measured
course.
On the far west end of the gym, get into the golf cart, turn on
the motor of the mouse and while traveling toward the east end,
hang over the side and drop the mouse 1/4 inch to the floor.
Repeat the same with the golf cart going away from scientists
at the east end. And finally drop the mouse to the floor, with
the cart stationary.
In each case the scientists measured the speed of the mouse as
3 mph.
IOW, the measured speed of the mouse was independent of the
speed of its golf cart source. In each case the mouse attained
its regular speed after some "screeching of its tires". The
speed measured was always its own self generated speed.
Question: From the standpoint of theoretical physics, does the
preceding analogy have any possible connection to the constancy
of the SOL irrespective of the speed of its source.
Re: A mechanical way to obtain source independence re SOL.
RePOSTs of VARiOUS notes follow:..
$$ There is NO mass in General Relativity, mathematically speaking.
$$
$$ "The emptyness between points", by jOE FiSHER.
By accepting that space has no attributes, the
emptyness between points or objects is made absolutely
continuous, as it has no granularity whatsoever.
$$
$$ Heisenberg wasN'T WRONG ..just because he GOT CAUGHT too OFTEN,
$$ "trying to" ((focus)) on BOTH ENDs of VELOCiTY vectors, at ONCE.
$$
$$ And jOE FiSHER isN'T WRONG just because he got CAUGHT too often
$$ "trying" to focus PARTiCULARLY on the "emptyness between points".
$$ Light VELOCiTY v keeps DECREASiNG, inversely as particle COUNT.
$$ Light VELOCiTY v keeps iNCREASiNG, inversely as particle COUNT.
$$ Light VELOCiTY v is CONSTANT ..ONLY at CONSTANT particle COUNT.
$$ Light VELOCiTY c is now a MATHEMATiCAL CONSTANT ..just like pi.
$$ The LOWEST PRESSURE ever measured, behind a SHUTTLE's back-plate,
$$ (LOW EARth orbit), was 16 orders-of-magnitude denser than VACUUM.
$$ [There is LESS THAN 3 orders-of-magnitude between air, and iRON].
$$ STP&g EARth AiR is 26 orders-of-magnitude MORE dense than VACUUM.
$$ Light VELOCiTY c has NEVER EVER BEEN measured @ specified VACUUM.
$$
$$ SPACE is MEASURED by the parts per million ..PARTiCLE COUNT.!!
$$ [i.e. So, if it has a NON-ZERO particle COUNT ..it's MEDiA].!!
$$ [i.e. So, if it has a *ZERO* particle COUNT, it's a VACUUM].!!
$$
$$ NATURE abhors "EMPTY space" ..especially without error-bars.!!
$$ GUESS iSS (n - 1) to the rescue.
$$ Note, Newton & Einstein BOTH embarrasingly call AMBiENT a VACUUM.
$$ But that was because they couldn't figure how to cope with MEDiA.
$$ GUESS iSS ambient media factor (n - 1) RECTiFYs ALL of that, now.
$$ GUESS iSS Gravitation G_absolute/G = 1/(n - 1) = G_relative = Gr.
$$ "Forced" to be c ..by Tom Roberts
Tom [He between his error-bars] Roberts wrote: > > Aetherist wrote:
|||> For labs on earth and light propagating in [OTHERwise] vacuum,
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$$ What are the lab error-bars on the [OTHERwise] "vacuum", Tom?
$$
|> > For instance, using slow clock transport for synchronization,
|> > it's not obvious that the speed of light is somehow "forced"
|> > to be c (using Einstein's method it clearly is). |> -=-
|> > Tom [He between his error-bars] Roberts
What you missed is the generally accepted
conception of what the aether is - namely
a physical medium that is supposed to be
what light undulates in..
$$ SPACE where PARTiCLEs are is DiSCRETE; The REST is continous.!!
$$ GR-WORLD-point, WORLD-line & SPACE-time-curvature:
$$ The "WORLDs" terminology soon became embarassing, so coup-GR
$$ adopted a MORE sophisticated but cute, "map of the manifold".
$$ (Especially, after Max Born's "LiTTLE iMP observers" fiasco).
$$ G-force, centro-SYMMETRiC; Authentic Maxwell equations areN'T.!!
$$ Of 28 Orders-of-Magnitude, LESS THAN 3 ..between air & water.!!
$$ Of 28 Orders-of-Magnitude, LESS THAN 3, between air and iron.!!
$$
$$ [The STANDARD, STP&g EARth AiR has 25 ORDERs of
$$ MAGNiTUDE higher PARTiCLE COUNT than VACUUM.!!]
This lack of a *25 ORDERs-of-MAGNiTUDE* DiSTiNCTiON is deliberate;
Because, *NOBODY* until GUESS iSS (n - 1) could EQUATE with MEDiA.
$$ Communists & dyslextics all fall ..iDENTiCALLY.
$$ AND, its TRUE, that RiGHT and LEFT handed TWiNs
$$ arriving BACK from SAME GR SPACEtime trip will:
$$ (A) Arrive BACK at somewhat DiFFERENT TiMEs, or
$$ (B) LEFTY will be turned COMPLETELY iNside OUT.!!
$$ [ The ONLY way to KNOW, if (B), is TAG underwear labels.!! ]
$$ Look Pivot, NO string (Bob ticked).!!
General Relativity has a stress-energy tensor, which includes
not only mass but also energy and -=-
$$ PROFOUNDLY, there is NO "mass" ..in General Relativity (gtr).
$$ PROFOUNDLY, iRONiCALLY, there's NO GR "space-time-curvature".
$$ (The GR, G_uv = T_uv CANNOT be DEFiNED in TERMs of "mass".!!)
possibly other factors relating to density and momentum, -=-
$$ There is NO "mass -=- density and momentum" in GEOMETRY, duh.!!
Re: A mechanical way to obtain source independence re SOL.
Re: Why is the Speed Of Light Constant? End of REPOST.!!
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