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"Sue..." |
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08 Jul 2006 02:14:43 PM |
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Re: Where is the flaw? |
Bilge wrote:
<< You mean real, as in, the time on their watches? OK. That's called
the proper time. >>
No it isn't.
Proper time is an acculumilation of space-time intervals not
temporal intervals. The watch on the travelers arm accumulates
temporal intervals.
"Proper time"
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/jk1/lectures/node14.html
Sue...
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| User: "Bilge" |
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| Title: Re: Where is the flaw? |
09 Jul 2006 03:33:04 PM |
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Sue..., still an idiot:
Bilge wrote:
<< You mean real, as in, the time on their watches? OK. That's called
the proper time. >>
No it isn't.
Try reading your own references instead of just making up stuff
and attributing your own ***** to a url that does not support
your misrepresentation of its content.
Proper time is an acculumilation of space-time intervals not
temporal intervals. The watch on the travelers arm accumulates
temporal intervals.
"Proper time"
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/jk1/lectures/node14.html
Perhaps you should try reading it.
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| User: "Sue..." |
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| Title: Re: Where is the flaw? |
09 Jul 2006 03:52:55 PM |
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Bilge wrote:
Sue..., still an idiot:
Bilge wrote:
<< You mean real, as in, the time on their watches? OK. That's called
the proper time. >>
No it isn't.
Try reading your own references instead of just making up stuff
and attributing your own ***** to a url that does not support
your misrepresentation of its content.
Proper time is an acculumilation of space-time intervals not
temporal intervals. The watch on the travelers arm accumulates
temporal intervals.
"Proper time"
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/jk1/lectures/node14.html
Perhaps you should try reading it.
Excellent point.
Fitzpatrick didn't really write ***apparent***
he wrote apparent.
Sue...
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| User: "Igor" |
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| Title: Re: Where is the flaw? |
09 Jul 2006 01:10:30 PM |
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Sue... wrote:
Bilge wrote:
<< You mean real, as in, the time on their watches? OK. That's called
the proper time. >>
No it isn't.
It most certainly is.
Proper time is an acculumilation of space-time intervals not
temporal intervals. The watch on the travelers arm accumulates
temporal intervals.
"Proper time"
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/jk1/lectures/node14.html
What part of the following don't you get:
It is clear that dt = dtau in the particle's rest frame. Thus, dtau
corresponds to the time difference between two neighbouring events on
the particle's world-line, as measured by a clock attached to the
particle (hence, the name ``proper time'').
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| User: "Bilge" |
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| Title: Re: Where is the flaw? |
09 Jul 2006 03:36:29 PM |
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Igor:
Sue... wrote:
Bilge wrote:
<< You mean real, as in, the time on their watches? OK. That's called
the proper time. >>
No it isn't.
It most certainly is.
Proper time is an acculumilation of space-time intervals not
temporal intervals. The watch on the travelers arm accumulates
temporal intervals.
"Proper time"
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/jk1/lectures/node14.html
What part of the following don't you get:
It is clear that dt = dtau in the particle's rest frame. Thus, dtau
corresponds to the time difference between two neighbouring events on
the particle's world-line, as measured by a clock attached to the
particle (hence, the name ``proper time'').
A common tactic of ``sue'' is to post some ***** and then reference
a url that is either irrelevant or obviously contradicts the *****,
based upon the assumption that ``she'' will appear credible so long as
no one actually reads the reference.
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| User: "Sue..." |
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| Title: Re: Where is the flaw? |
09 Jul 2006 02:35:58 PM |
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Igor wrote:
Sue... wrote:
Bilge wrote:
<< You mean real, as in, the time on their watches? OK. That's called
the proper time. >>
No it isn't.
It most certainly is.
Proper time is an acculumilation of space-time intervals not
temporal intervals. The watch on the travelers arm accumulates
temporal intervals.
"Proper time"
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/jk1/lectures/node14.html
What part of the following don't you get:
It is clear that dt = dtau in the particle's rest frame. Thus, dtau
corresponds to the time difference between two neighbouring events on
the particle's world-line, as measured by a clock attached to the
particle (hence, the name ``proper time'').
I don't get the part you truncated.
....According to Eq. (2.78), the particle's clock ***appears*** to run
slow,
It corresponds to the ***apparent*** time differnce.
If the receeding traveler corrects the image of the distant clock
with a gamma factor for his velocity, then it matches the watch
on his arm.
An accumulation of corrections doesn't have a direct relationship
to the travel time because the spatial component to allow for
the fintie speed of light is included in them.
When the traveler applies the correction for his speed
and the image's speed, he has a proper time for the
clock at the origin that matches his watch.
So when you say the world lines are different lengths
you are really saying you didn't correct the image
of the clock at the origin, seen at the origin, the same
way you corrected the image of the clock at the origin
seen by the traveler. That is no case for funny birthday
candles.
Sue...
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