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18 May 2005 10:40:50 AM |
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RE: Who is Uncle Al? |
S. M. Iftiquar wrote:
Who is Uncle Al ? [Is there something missing like it should have
been
"Uncle for All"! ] He seems to have enormous interest on news group
and
devotes sufficient effort to post or read any posting.
I am interested to know bit more on Uncle Al, beyond the postings.
Any
"Autobiography" by UA will be welcome.
I believe his name is Alan M. Schwartz. People claim he's won numerous
Nobel Prizes. Go to the official Nobel Prize website yourself and do a
search. You won't find any Nobel Prizes by any Alan Schwartz or Al
Schwartz.
http://nobelprize.org/index.html
A lot of people look up to Alan M. Schwartz for his obvious wealth of
knowledge, but you'll probably find just as many who despise the man
for his dark sense of humor, horrific profanity, and total lack of
tolerance for ignorance and laziness. Generally speaking one might
imagine that atheist and perhaps agnostics adore Uncle Al where as the
opposite polarities of spiritual personalities are dismayed.
Paul
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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18 May 2005 11:12:08 AM |
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wrote:
I believe his name is Alan M. Schwartz. People claim he's won
numerous
Nobel Prizes. Go to the official Nobel Prize website yourself and do
a
search. You won't find any Nobel Prizes by any Alan Schwartz or Al
Schwartz.
http://nobelprize.org/index.html
Unc' has been awarded zero Nobels, and *he* has never claimed
otherwise. Why do you puzzle yourself over the words of others, without
once asking the source its own version of the story?
-Mark Martin
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| User: "" |
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18 May 2005 11:37:39 AM |
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Mark Martin wrote:
softwarelabus@yahoo.com wrote:
Unc' has been awarded zero Nobels, and *he* has never claimed
otherwise. Why do you puzzle yourself over the words of others,
without
once asking the source its own version of the story?
No asking here. I stated it as matter of fact-- "You won't find any
Nobel Prizes by any Alan Schwartz or Al Schwartz."
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| User: "Quantum Mirror" |
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18 May 2005 12:17:53 PM |
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"No asking here. I stated it as matter of fact-- "
It is customary to get your facts straight before stating them.
Otherwise you get a reputation for being stupid.
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| User: "operator jay" |
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18 May 2005 09:16:23 PM |
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"Quantum Mirror" <junebug@pgrb.com> wrote in message
news:1116436673.781589.178440@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
"No asking here. I stated it as matter of fact-- "
It is customary to get your facts straight before stating them.
You might find it is pretty customary for non-straight facts to be stated
around here.
j
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| User: "yt56erd" |
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19 May 2005 06:03:36 PM |
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wrote:
Mark Martin wrote:
wrote:
Unc' has been awarded zero Nobels, and *he* has never claimed
otherwise. Why do you puzzle yourself over the words of others,
without
once asking the source its own version of the story?
No asking here. I stated it as matter of fact-- "You won't find any
Nobel Prizes by any Alan Schwartz or Al Schwartz."
softwarelabus is either a:
jerkfaced troll.
or a
cuntfaced troll.
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| User: "PD" |
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18 May 2005 11:15:20 AM |
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wrote:
S. M. Iftiquar wrote:
Who is Uncle Al ? [Is there something missing like it should have
been
"Uncle for All"! ] He seems to have enormous interest on news group
and
devotes sufficient effort to post or read any posting.
I am interested to know bit more on Uncle Al, beyond the postings.
Any
"Autobiography" by UA will be welcome.
I believe his name is Alan M. Schwartz. People claim he's won
numerous
Nobel Prizes.
To my knowledge, there have only been three recipients of multiple
Nobel prizes in any category, each with two: John Bardeen (Physics 2x),
Frederick Sanger (Chemistry 2x), and Marie Curie (Physics and
Chemistry). This is a rare enough occurence that you should be able to
remember it, and it is a useful reminder to hold circumspect just about
anything than anyone says in this forum, unless you can confirm it
yourself independently.
PD
Go to the official Nobel Prize website yourself and do a
search. You won't find any Nobel Prizes by any Alan Schwartz or Al
Schwartz.
http://nobelprize.org/index.html
A lot of people look up to Alan M. Schwartz for his obvious wealth of
knowledge, but you'll probably find just as many who despise the man
for his dark sense of humor, horrific profanity, and total lack of
tolerance for ignorance and laziness. Generally speaking one might
imagine that atheist and perhaps agnostics adore Uncle Al where as
the
opposite polarities of spiritual personalities are dismayed.
Paul
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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19 May 2005 01:36:07 AM |
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PD
just have a look at the list of Nobelers
and you will realise about the croockish gange that is wobling here.
a bunch of shameless liers
and walkind damage ot the advance of scince
the best that Al can do
is to be a good parrot
and an untolerable despisable character
Y.P
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| User: "OsherD" |
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20 May 2005 01:45:10 AM |
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From Osher Doctorow
Y. Porat wrote:
the best that Al can do
is to be a good parrot
This is well said. Actually, Al goes one step below a parrot: he
maintains a steady silence when faced with new ideas, alternately with
mindless squaking. A parrot at least will "speak".
Osher ("Adon olam, asher malach")
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| User: "Andy Resnick" |
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18 May 2005 11:58:55 AM |
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PD wrote:
<snip>
To my knowledge, there have only been three recipients of multiple
Nobel prizes in any category, each with two: John Bardeen (Physics 2x),
Frederick Sanger (Chemistry 2x), and Marie Curie (Physics and
Chemistry). This is a rare enough occurence that you should be able to
remember it, and it is a useful reminder to hold circumspect just about
anything than anyone says in this forum, unless you can confirm it
yourself independently.
<snip>
You forgot Linus Pauling- Physics and Chemistry. And unfortunately,
ended up a lunatic endorsing megadoses of viatmin C.
--
Andrew Resnick, Ph.D.
Department of Physiology and Biophysics
Case Western Reserve University
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| User: "PD" |
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18 May 2005 12:19:00 PM |
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Andy Resnick wrote:
PD wrote:
<snip>
To my knowledge, there have only been three recipients of multiple
Nobel prizes in any category, each with two: John Bardeen (Physics
2x),
Frederick Sanger (Chemistry 2x), and Marie Curie (Physics and
Chemistry). This is a rare enough occurence that you should be able
to
remember it, and it is a useful reminder to hold circumspect just
about
anything than anyone says in this forum, unless you can confirm it
yourself independently.
<snip>
You forgot Linus Pauling- Physics and Chemistry. And unfortunately,
ended up a lunatic endorsing megadoses of viatmin C.
--
Andrew Resnick, Ph.D.
Department of Physiology and Biophysics
Case Western Reserve University
Quite right, my mistake. See what I mean by taking everything you read
here with a grain of salt?
Note that it is relatively common for two members of the same *family*
to win Nobel prizes, often in the same category. It is even more common
for a winner to have studied under the tutelage of another winner.
PD
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| User: "Zigoteau" |
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19 May 2005 10:49:32 AM |
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Hi, Andy,
You forgot Linus Pauling- Physics and Chemistry. And unfortunately,
ended up a lunatic endorsing megadoses of viatmin C.
I saw Linus Pauling once when I visited Stanford. It was a couple of
years before his death - he was in his 90s I think. He was chatting
with quite a few people and did not seem at all doddery.
It is curious that you diagnose lunacy.
Cheers,
Zigoteau.
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| User: "G=EMC^2 Glazier" |
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18 May 2005 12:47:22 PM |
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Interesting Pauling I think got 3 Nobels.He studied physics under Bohr.
He could bring chemistry into the quantum realm. He thought of vitamin C
the same way I theorise Mexican sweet potatoes(MSP) Bert
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| User: "PD" |
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18 May 2005 01:21:33 PM |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Interesting Pauling I think got 3 Nobels.He studied physics under
Bohr.
He could bring chemistry into the quantum realm. He thought of
vitamin C
the same way I theorise Mexican sweet potatoes(MSP) Bert
Pauling got it for Chemistry and Peace, not Chemistry and Physics.
That's the funny part.
PD
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| User: "Maleki" |
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19 May 2005 12:46:06 PM |
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On Wed, 18 May 2005 12:58:55 -0400, Andy Resnick wrote:
You forgot Linus Pauling- Physics and Chemistry. And unfortunately,
ended up a lunatic endorsing megadoses of viatmin C.
Have you read his book on vitamin C? There is some
truth to his claims about it (he shows it
quantitatively) but he did that mostly because this was
a trend in the family he grew up in. His father lived
(and failed) doing same thing.
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| User: "ošin" |
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19 May 2005 01:57:57 PM |
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You forgot Linus Pauling- Physics and Chemistry. And unfortunately,
ended up a lunatic endorsing megadoses of viatmin C.
Linus Pauling was a great scientist in many ways... but yes, his ideas on
vitamin C were those of a crackpot.
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| User: "Zigoteau" |
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19 May 2005 03:16:04 PM |
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Hi, Maleki and O=F0in.
Linus Pauling was a great scientist in many ways... but yes, his
ideas on
vitamin C were those of a crackpot.
Exactly which ones?
Have you read his book on vitamin C?
Yes.
I know that nutrition is a very touchy subject. Everybody thinks
themselves an expert on food, and believes firmly in his/her taboos
learnt in childhood. In the sense that he challenged social taboos he
was certainly eccentric. I also think that goes with being a great
scientist, and if that makes him a crackpot, then he was a crackpot.
Many people thought Wegener was, and before him, many people thought
that Boltzmann was. However it seems to me that Pauling presented
evidence for his beliefs, and suggested experiments to verify them
further, and that that sets him apart from run-of-the-mill crackpots.
Cheers,
Zigoteau.
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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19 May 2005 05:01:27 PM |
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Zigoteau wrote:
Hi, Maleki and Ošin.
Linus Pauling was a great scientist in many ways... but yes, his
ideas on
vitamin C were those of a crackpot.
Exactly which ones?
Have you read his book on vitamin C?
Yes.
I know that nutrition is a very touchy subject. Everybody thinks
themselves an expert on food, and believes firmly in his/her taboos
learnt in childhood. In the sense that he challenged social taboos he
was certainly eccentric. I also think that goes with being a great
scientist, and if that makes him a crackpot, then he was a crackpot.
Many people thought Wegener was, and before him, many people thought
that Boltzmann was. However it seems to me that Pauling presented
evidence for his beliefs, and suggested experiments to verify them
further, and that that sets him apart from run-of-the-mill crackpots.
Titrating a serious cold with Vitamin C definitely works and for good
physiological reasons. White blood cells burn ascorbate with oxygen
to produce superoxide and peroxide to kill ingested pathogens. You
can absorb and burn 10 g/day of ascorbic acid when ill. If you catch
the cold early cellular response fueled by ascorbate contains it,
there is little tissue damage, humoral response kicks in, sickess is
minor, and recovery is very fast.
Ascorbate is the water soluble antioxidant. Vitamin E is the
fast-soluble antioxidant. It would be most interesting to compare the
lifespans of serious aerobic athlete cohorts who do and do not
suppliment with these two antioxidants.
Pauling went overboard in his assertions. Nevertheless there is no
doubt that the FDA recommended daily requirements for essential human
nutrients - while adequate to protect 99% of the population against
deficiency diseases - are not adequate to achieve optimum health. 1%
of 300 million people is 3 million folk who would *still* suffer
deficiency diseases given FDA recommended intakes. That is a plague.
One is well advised to take a multivitamin pill with dinner, plus 500
mg Vitamin C (unless you get oxalate kidney stones) plus 400 IU of
Vitamin E. Don't go "natural," either. Take the clean chemicals.
Folks who suffer purpura (petechiae to ecchymoses) should try adding
real buckwheat pancakes for breakfast 3X/week. There's a
micronutrient that cofactors ascorbate.
Uncle Al says, "The government does not have your best interests at
heart."
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Zigoteau" |
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20 May 2005 10:29:14 AM |
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Hi, Uncle Al,
Titrating a serious cold with Vitamin C definitely works and for good
physiological reasons. White blood cells burn ascorbate with oxygen
to produce superoxide and peroxide to kill ingested pathogens. You
can absorb and burn 10 g/day of ascorbic acid when ill. If you catch
the cold early cellular response fueled by ascorbate contains it,
there is little tissue damage, humoral response kicks in, sickess is
minor, and recovery is very fast.
I'm glad to hear that you believe in experiment to decide whether
people are crazy or on the level. I get the same result. I don't know
about the claim about cancer. It's hard to do a controlled double-blind
experiment involving a fatal disease with just one guinea pig.
Pauling went overboard in his assertions.
I think his enthusiasm for ascorbic acid was quite appealing. One thing
I can't forgive him for, though, is resonance theory. M.J.S. Dewar's
Perturbation Molecular Orbital theory is far better, but I don't think
we will ever totally expunge the seductive and often misleading monster
Pauling created.
Uncle Al says, "The government does not have your best interests at
heart."
Too true, Blue! Nor, I am afraid, do the lawyers (the two being by no
means distinct entities). I'm sorry to hear about your recourse to the
latter. I've never heard of any good coming of it.
Cheers,
Zigoteau.
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| User: "nemo" |
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19 May 2005 09:57:40 PM |
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Zigoteau wrote:
Hi, Maleki and Ošin.
Linus Pauling was a great scientist in many ways... but yes, his
ideas on vitamin C were those of a crackpot.
Exactly which ones?
Have you read his book on vitamin C?
Yes.
I know that nutrition is a very touchy subject. Everybody thinks
themselves an expert on food, and believes firmly in his/her taboos
learnt in childhood. In the sense that he challenged social taboos he
was certainly eccentric. I also think that goes with being a great
scientist, and if that makes him a crackpot, then he was a crackpot.
Many people thought Wegener was, and before him, many people thought
that Boltzmann was. However it seems to me that Pauling presented
evidence for his beliefs, and suggested experiments to verify them
further, and that that sets him apart from run-of-the-mill crackpots.
Every king has a muse, but not all muses have a king.
One only looks good when the other looks bad.
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For want of a nail, the shoe was lost;
For want of the shoe, the horse was lost;
For want of the horse, the rider was lost;
For want of the rider, the battle was lost;
For want of the battle, the kingdom was lost;
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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21 May 2005 01:26:44 AM |
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i think that the Nobel prozer
Linus pauling
was excluded from thr crackpot list
my the momentous scintist
Dirk Van der shmate
it is nice to hear how parrots are eveluating
and showing knowledge about how to do
PIONEERING SCINCE.
all th ebest
Y.Porat
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| User: "" |
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18 May 2005 12:20:31 PM |
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When I think Nobel Prize I think of Ed Witten, but I guess there's no
Nobel Prize in mathematics. Although Ed won the Fields medal. I'm
curious why they would not want to give a Nobel Prize in mathematics?
Paul
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| User: "PD" |
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18 May 2005 01:32:06 PM |
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wrote:
When I think Nobel Prize I think of Ed Witten, but I guess there's no
Nobel Prize in mathematics. Although Ed won the Fields medal. I'm
curious why they would not want to give a Nobel Prize in mathematics?
Paul
As I understand it, Nobel didn't will a prize in mathematics because he
didn't think that mathematicians contributed as much to the forwarding
of humanity as those in the other fields. Note that he didn't will
economics either, that was added later.
As far as I know, no Fields prize winner has ever won a Nobel. There is
little love lost between the two prize units.
PD
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| User: "Zigoteau" |
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19 May 2005 11:24:32 AM |
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Hi, PD,
As I understand it, Nobel didn't will a prize in mathematics because
he
didn't think that mathematicians contributed as much to the
forwarding
of humanity as those in the other fields. Note that he didn't will
economics either, that was added later.
According to the story I heard, Nobel refused to create a prize in
mathematics because the woman he was in love with ran off with the
Swedish mathematician Magnus Mittag-Leffler.
Cheers,
Zigoteau.
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| User: "Ben Rudiak-Gould" |
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19 May 2005 04:58:39 PM |
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Zigoteau wrote:
According to the story I heard, Nobel refused to create a prize in
mathematics because the woman he was in love with ran off with the
Swedish mathematician Magnus Mittag-Leffler.
Urban legend:
http://www.snopes.com/science/nobel.htm
-- Ben
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| User: "G=EMC^2 Glazier" |
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18 May 2005 12:57:17 PM |
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Uncle Al Is the sweetest,kindest man in the whole world. He is a
giver,and gets nothing back. He is humble,and never shows his ego.
He never stoops to profanity. He finds the kindest words if he disagrees
with you.He is never repetitious. He is one of a kind,and kind fits him
so well Bert
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| User: "" |
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18 May 2005 01:10:15 PM |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
He never stoops to profanity. He finds the
kindest words if he disagrees with you.
LOL, now that is hilarious!
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