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03 Sep 2005 02:38:45 PM |
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Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
Once they are rebuilt, assuming the city isn't relocated to New New
Orleans somewhere else, wouldn't it make more sense to bulldoze the
flooded quarter and keep right on stacking soil and rock behind the
levees until the ground is thirty feet higher throughout?
It probably wouldn't take long if a railway line was knocked together
(if there isn't one already) for carrying all the material to the site.
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| User: "Mike Lepore" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
10 Sep 2005 02:14:18 AM |
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<john_ramsden@sagitta-ps.com> wrote
Once they are rebuilt, assuming the city isn't relocated to New New
Orleans somewhere else, wouldn't it make more sense to bulldoze the
flooded quarter and keep right on stacking soil and rock behind the
levees until the ground is thirty feet higher throughout?
It probably wouldn't take long if a railway line was knocked together
(if there isn't one already) for carrying all the material to the site.
Alternate idea :: New zoning to require that every building have a 20 foot
high above-ground basement, not approved for residence, but okay for
parking, storage, etc.
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http://www.xxxpinions.com/
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
04 Sep 2005 01:17:14 AM |
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wrote:
Once they are rebuilt, assuming the city isn't relocated to New New
Orleans somewhere else, wouldn't it make more sense to bulldoze the
flooded quarter and keep right on stacking soil and rock behind the
levees until the ground is thirty feet higher throughout?
It probably wouldn't take long if a railway line was knocked together
(if there isn't one already) for carrying all the material to the site.
Dredge surrounding bays to deeper water (a good thing) and use the
fill to bring bulldozed New New Orleans substantially above sea level
(a good thing). Perfectly reasonable and rather inexpensive/mile^2.
Boston, New York City, San Francisco... are substantially larger in
area because dredgings and tunnelings were dumped in low spots and at
peripheries.
It won't happen. Luddites will scream that history is being
destroyed. New Orleans is not a loathsome Black slum, it is a
historically, architecturally, culturally, and linguistically rich
embodiment of America that must be frozen in time for future
generations. Note that the Cajuns covered their butts. Only Blacks
ended up as, well, Blacks - sitting on their asses demanding free
everything when they weren't carrying looted TVs into quagmires of
human feces and newly extruded babies.
The real world solution is simple. California's Central Valley needs
slaves to pick cotton. The US Constitution already grants them 3/5 of
a vote each. Bus 'em.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "RP" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
04 Sep 2005 02:26:13 AM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
john_ramsden@sagitta-ps.com wrote:
Once they are rebuilt, assuming the city isn't relocated to New New
Orleans somewhere else, wouldn't it make more sense to bulldoze the
flooded quarter and keep right on stacking soil and rock behind the
levees until the ground is thirty feet higher throughout?
It probably wouldn't take long if a railway line was knocked together
(if there isn't one already) for carrying all the material to the site.
Dredge surrounding bays to deeper water (a good thing) and use the
fill to bring bulldozed New New Orleans substantially above sea level
(a good thing). Perfectly reasonable and rather inexpensive/mile^2.
Boston, New York City, San Francisco... are substantially larger in
area because dredgings and tunnelings were dumped in low spots and at
peripheries.
Turn it into a national landfill, save the cost of dredging.
It won't happen. Luddites will scream that history is being
destroyed. New Orleans is not a loathsome Black slum, it is a
historically, architecturally, culturally, and linguistically rich
embodiment of America that must be frozen in time for future
generations. Note that the Cajuns covered their butts. Only Blacks
ended up as, well, Blacks - sitting on their asses demanding free
everything when they weren't carrying looted TVs into quagmires of
human feces and newly extruded babies.
The real world solution is simple. California's Central Valley needs
slaves to pick cotton. The US Constitution already grants them 3/5 of
a vote each. Bus 'em.
Orders are shoot to kill. Difference between desperate victims and
crack-snorting looters: Victims would naturally tend to run toward the
militia; food and survival items in hand, and with pleas for assistance.
Crack-snorting looters would naturally tend to run the other way with TV
sets (or other nonessentials) and booze in hand.
http://www.intellectualactivist.com/php-bin/news/showArticle.php?id=1026
Richard Perry
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
04 Sep 2005 10:00:03 AM |
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In sci.physics, RP
<no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com>
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on Sun, 04 Sep 2005 02:26:13 -0500
<-sOdnU5fC4j5PIfeRVn-jA@centurytel.net>:
Uncle Al wrote:
john_ramsden@sagitta-ps.com wrote:
Once they are rebuilt, assuming the city isn't relocated to New New
Orleans somewhere else, wouldn't it make more sense to bulldoze the
flooded quarter and keep right on stacking soil and rock behind the
levees until the ground is thirty feet higher throughout?
It probably wouldn't take long if a railway line was knocked together
(if there isn't one already) for carrying all the material to the site.
Dredge surrounding bays to deeper water (a good thing) and use the
fill to bring bulldozed New New Orleans substantially above sea level
(a good thing). Perfectly reasonable and rather inexpensive/mile^2.
Boston, New York City, San Francisco... are substantially larger in
area because dredgings and tunnelings were dumped in low spots and at
peripheries.
Turn it into a national landfill, save the cost of dredging.
The main problem with that is the oceanic pollution. After all,
it *is* at the mouth of a river delta and right between
the ocean and Lake Ponchetrain.
[rest snipped]
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#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
03 Sep 2005 03:40:00 PM |
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wrote:
Once they are rebuilt, assuming the city isn't relocated to New New
Orleans somewhere else, wouldn't it make more sense to bulldoze the
flooded quarter and keep right on stacking soil and rock behind the
levees until the ground is thirty feet higher throughout?
It probably wouldn't take long if a railway line was knocked together
(if there isn't one already) for carrying all the material to the site.
From where?
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| User: "Charles" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
03 Sep 2005 07:33:24 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:40:00 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
wrote:
john_ramsden@sagitta-ps.com wrote:
Once they are rebuilt, assuming the city isn't relocated to New New
Orleans somewhere else, wouldn't it make more sense to bulldoze the
flooded quarter and keep right on stacking soil and rock behind the
levees until the ground is thirty feet higher throughout?
It probably wouldn't take long if a railway line was knocked together
(if there isn't one already) for carrying all the material to the site.
From where?
From everywhere. I know Los Angeles needs a new landfill location, I
would bet most cities would like to get rid of their garbage and
sludge somewhere else.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
03 Sep 2005 07:46:53 PM |
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Charles <ckraft@samtrap.west.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:40:00 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
wrote:
john_ramsden@sagitta-ps.com wrote:
Once they are rebuilt, assuming the city isn't relocated to New New
Orleans somewhere else, wouldn't it make more sense to bulldoze the
flooded quarter and keep right on stacking soil and rock behind the
levees until the ground is thirty feet higher throughout?
It probably wouldn't take long if a railway line was knocked together
(if there isn't one already) for carrying all the material to the site.
From where?
From everywhere. I know Los Angeles needs a new landfill location, I
would bet most cities would like to get rid of their garbage and
sludge somewhere else.
And what a wonder that would be with the land sinking and methane oozing
out of the ground for decades.
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Jim Pennino
Remove .spam.sux to reply.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
04 Sep 2005 09:02:01 AM |
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wrote:
From everywhere. I know Los Angeles needs a new landfill location,
I would bet most cities would like to get rid of their garbage and
sludge somewhere else.
And what a wonder that would be with the land sinking and methane
oozing out of the ground for decades.
Not if you dig the soil and rock from a third location, shift
that to New Orleans, and then use the resulting hole for landfill.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
10 Sep 2005 04:02:54 PM |
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wrote:
And what a wonder that would be with the land sinking and methane oozing
out of the ground for decades.
Well, it sure is a good thing then that the Dutch weren't stupid enough
to actually build up any new land from the sea over the past 500 years,
or they would have likewise suffered the problems you're claiming are a
near cause-effect certainty of anyone dumb enough to try and reclaim
land from the sea. Instead, as we all know, they took the more
enlightened route of living undersea knowing full well that the
alternative would have been land sinking and methane oozing from the
ground for centuries -- which is why the Unterseelands are the only
submarine nation on Earth.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the help wanted 1 million mexicans |
03 Sep 2005 08:55:30 PM |
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help wanted
1 million mexicans
call mr bush at white house.
Drege out a 1/2 mile wide 100 foot tall off the bottom and conreat it
,,6 lanes .
6 lane hyways boath sides of the channel.
and down lake front.
Its shallow BUT old king coal wount get its foot wet sitting at the
aft end of Giant 4.
grab drag retired could do it all 1/2 mile wide 100 feet tall 40
miles a year.
1 , rebiuld infinstruture highways
2 . dig the chanels wider and deeper.
3.. provide a deep uunderwater lake side channel for lake waves to
pass over lake bottom ad hit where you take fill from to pile the wall
100 feet up . Waves will loose thier punch against the wall.
provide allso a rip- curent channel so water piled up can run strait
back out .
4 . Instead of 450000 small homes .
biuld 450 high rises as a gift from THE BUSH adm. 100 billion.
last owners take first call renters take the rest and own .
Parks and comnunity on all the open spaces.
bottom 4 floors parking .
security.
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| User: "Ken S. Tucker" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
03 Sep 2005 04:15:30 PM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
john_ramsden@sagitta-ps.com wrote:
Once they are rebuilt, assuming the city isn't relocated to New New
Orleans somewhere else, wouldn't it make more sense to bulldoze the
flooded quarter and keep right on stacking soil and rock behind the
levees until the ground is thirty feet higher throughout?
It probably wouldn't take long if a railway line was knocked together
(if there isn't one already) for carrying all the material to the site.
From where?
Galveston 1900, might be an example.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
03 Sep 2005 08:34:42 PM |
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A 1/2 mile wide 100 foot tall dreged clay wall .
Slabbed 6 inches thick from notmal water line up to the top with a 8
lane highway on top of it.
ITS allready drawn up..
Instead of 1 billion ,,,,,bush gave to his brown nose buddy ......the
one they got cost 37 mil.
But now 20000 of your freinds are dead.
3 rows of house removed and rip the bottom
of the lake out and deposit it land rover method floatng drag bucket as
big as mat king coal.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Rebuilding the levees in New Orleans |
03 Sep 2005 09:35:50 PM |
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Mat King Cole - God, I love his music. Just like some teeny bopper
girl once phoned into a radio show asking for a song by Willie Nelman.
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