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23 Apr 2006 07:05:52 AM |
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Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider stunning finding, why? |
http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/pubaf/pr/PR_display.asp?prID=05-38
"... the scientists say that instead of behaving like a gas of free
quarks and gluons, as was expected, the matter created in RHIC's
heavy ion collisions appears to be more like a liquid."
Why liquid like? Anyone got an idea? This also happens to be the
cover story of the May 2006 Sci-Am for those who get advanced
copies. But note the source originated from the Relativistic Heavy
Ion Collider (RHIC) facilities as the url above detailed.
Could some kind of aether be involved? Of course we know the
aether is 99% dead but let's not discount anything. But my bet is
that it hasn't got anything to do with aether. Mathematical elegance
discounts the existence of aether. So aether is indeed really nearly
and almost certainly dead.
Brit
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| User: "FrediFizzx" |
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| Title: Re: Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider stunning finding, why? |
23 Apr 2006 01:15:15 PM |
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"Brit" <britnevada@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145793952.387186.73640@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/pubaf/pr/PR_display.asp?prID=05-38
"... the scientists say that instead of behaving like a gas of free
quarks and gluons, as was expected, the matter created in RHIC's
heavy ion collisions appears to be more like a liquid."
Why liquid like? Anyone got an idea? This also happens to be the
cover story of the May 2006 Sci-Am for those who get advanced
copies. But note the source originated from the Relativistic Heavy
Ion Collider (RHIC) facilities as the url above detailed.
Could some kind of aether be involved? Of course we know the
aether is 99% dead but let's not discount anything. But my bet is
that it hasn't got anything to do with aether. Mathematical elegance
discounts the existence of aether. So aether is indeed really nearly
and almost certainly dead.
Quantum Vacuum Charge rules, baby!
Volovik says it like it is very well in his book "The Universe in a
Helium Droplet" page 461 sect. 33 Conclusion;
"According to the modern view the elementary particles (electrons,
neutrinos, quarks, etc.) are excitations of some more fundamental medium
called the quantum vacuum. This is the new ether of the 21st century.
The electromagnetic and gravitational fields, as well as the fields
transferring the weak and the strong interactions, all represent
different types of collective motion of the quantum vacuum."
A modified Dirac-like Sea coupled with a Randall-Sundrum RS-1 type of
concept is possibly the answer.
FrediFizzx
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf
or postscript
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps
http://www.vacuum-physics.com
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| User: "Brit" |
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| Title: Re: Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider stunning finding, why? |
23 Apr 2006 05:40:37 PM |
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FrediFizzx wrote:
"Brit" <britnevada@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145793952.387186.73640@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/pubaf/pr/PR_display.asp?prID=05-38
"... the scientists say that instead of behaving like a gas of free
quarks and gluons, as was expected, the matter created in RHIC's
heavy ion collisions appears to be more like a liquid."
Why liquid like? Anyone got an idea? This also happens to be the
cover story of the May 2006 Sci-Am for those who get advanced
copies. But note the source originated from the Relativistic Heavy
Ion Collider (RHIC) facilities as the url above detailed.
Could some kind of aether be involved? Of course we know the
aether is 99% dead but let's not discount anything. But my bet is
that it hasn't got anything to do with aether. Mathematical elegance
discounts the existence of aether. So aether is indeed really nearly
and almost certainly dead.
Quantum Vacuum Charge rules, baby!
Volovik says it like it is very well in his book "The Universe in a
Helium Droplet" page 461 sect. 33 Conclusion;
"According to the modern view the elementary particles (electrons,
neutrinos, quarks, etc.) are excitations of some more fundamental medium
called the quantum vacuum. This is the new ether of the 21st century.
The electromagnetic and gravitational fields, as well as the fields
transferring the weak and the strong interactions, all represent
different types of collective motion of the quantum vacuum."
A modified Dirac-like Sea coupled with a Randall-Sundrum RS-1 type of
concept is possibly the answer.
FrediFizzx
Well. Look at it this way. A virtual photon can turn into virtual
electron-positron... the virtual electron-positron can turn into
another photon.. and the photon can turn into another
electron-positron, etc. And because of the uncertainty in
time, energy. Almost an unlimited loop can be created. This
is why calculations have to be renormalized. Now your model
requires dirac-like sea with fixed cells. How could this
possibily explain the unlimited loop of self-energy (each
virtual photon turning into virtual electron-positron and
so on and with time being lesser, the energy being more
varied (courtesy of HUP). Your fixed cell sea can't model this
endless virtual loop going on. Anyway. Do you believe in
HUP?
About aether. It just occured to me yesterday when I read
the article that they may be detecting liquid characteristic in the
quark-gluon soup maybe because they are boiling the aether
liquid sea underneath the quark-gluon sub-quantum realms.
But it can't be it. The law of nature must not have priveleged
frame of reference for laws to be consistent. The aether is a
priveleged frame of reference. Hence the aether couldn't
possibly exist.
Brit
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf
or postscript
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps
http://www.vacuum-physics.com
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| User: "Ilja Schmelzer" |
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| Title: Re: Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider stunning finding, why? |
27 Apr 2006 04:09:32 AM |
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"Brit" <britnevada@yahoo.com> schrieb
About aether. ... The law of nature must not have priveleged
frame of reference for laws to be consistent. The aether is a
priveleged frame of reference. Hence the aether couldn't
possibly exist.
Wrong.
All what is required is that, as long as we do not
observe violations of Lorentz symmetry (which remains
possible and can happen every day), the preferred frame
cannot be detected by observation.
A good ether theory would have to explain why this
happens. If it doesn't, this is a problem for the ether
theory, but it would not falsify this theory. The problem
is only an esthetical one.
Anyway, this problem is solved in my ether theory,
see gr-qc/0205035.
Ilja
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| User: "FrediFizzx" |
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| Title: Re: Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider stunning finding, why? |
23 Apr 2006 08:41:14 PM |
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"Brit" <britnevada@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145832037.167600.307880@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
FrediFizzx wrote:
"Brit" <britnevada@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145793952.387186.73640@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/pubaf/pr/PR_display.asp?prID=05-38
"... the scientists say that instead of behaving like a gas of
free
quarks and gluons, as was expected, the matter created in RHIC's
heavy ion collisions appears to be more like a liquid."
Why liquid like? Anyone got an idea? This also happens to be the
cover story of the May 2006 Sci-Am for those who get advanced
copies. But note the source originated from the Relativistic Heavy
Ion Collider (RHIC) facilities as the url above detailed.
Could some kind of aether be involved? Of course we know the
aether is 99% dead but let's not discount anything. But my bet is
that it hasn't got anything to do with aether. Mathematical
elegance
discounts the existence of aether. So aether is indeed really
nearly
and almost certainly dead.
Quantum Vacuum Charge rules, baby!
Volovik says it like it is very well in his book "The Universe in a
Helium Droplet" page 461 sect. 33 Conclusion;
"According to the modern view the elementary particles (electrons,
neutrinos, quarks, etc.) are excitations of some more fundamental
medium
called the quantum vacuum. This is the new ether of the 21st
century.
The electromagnetic and gravitational fields, as well as the fields
transferring the weak and the strong interactions, all represent
different types of collective motion of the quantum vacuum."
A modified Dirac-like Sea coupled with a Randall-Sundrum RS-1 type
of
concept is possibly the answer.
FrediFizzx
Well. Look at it this way. A virtual photon can turn into virtual
electron-positron... the virtual electron-positron can turn into
another photon.. and the photon can turn into another
electron-positron, etc. And because of the uncertainty in
time, energy. Almost an unlimited loop can be created. This
is why calculations have to be renormalized. Now your model
requires dirac-like sea with fixed cells. How could this
possibily explain the unlimited loop of self-energy (each
virtual photon turning into virtual electron-positron and
so on and with time being lesser, the energy being more
varied (courtesy of HUP). Your fixed cell sea can't model this
endless virtual loop going on. Anyway. Do you believe in
HUP?
What don't you understand about "collective motion"? And do you realize
the "sea" part of a Dirac-like Sea could not possibly be in our
spacetime. We model it as a system of "less than virtual" fermionic
pairs the combination of which has infinite energy. Of course I believe
in the Uncertainty Principle. What is there to not believe?
Uncertainty is the result of any wave-like properties. Even classical
waves.
About aether. It just occured to me yesterday when I read
the article that they may be detecting liquid characteristic in the
quark-gluon soup maybe because they are boiling the aether
liquid sea underneath the quark-gluon sub-quantum realms.
But it can't be it. The law of nature must not have priveleged
frame of reference for laws to be consistent. The aether is a
priveleged frame of reference. Hence the aether couldn't
possibly exist.
Of course "The Aether" as described by a "privileged FoR" doesn't exist,
but the quantum "vacuum" as a relativistic medium certainly could as
Volovik seems to think and I agree with him. From our vantage point, it
is very difficult to tell whether or not the detection of a photon can
be considered to be detection of the relativistic medium. It is purely
an interpretational issue.
FrediFizzx
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf
or postscript
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps
http://www.vacuum-physics.com
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