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"Pentcho Valev" |
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10 Feb 2006 09:06:55 AM |
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Relativity Hypnotists and the Zombie World |
Although the existence of superluminal signals (whose speed is much
greater than 300000km/s) has been confirmed many times, relativity
hypnotists don't hesitate to stake the survival of Einstein's theory on
the claim that no signal can move faster than 300000km/s. See, for
instance, Problem 6 ("Train in a tunnel"), p. 47 (solution on p. 53),
in
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf
Where does the arrogance come from? Relativity hypnotists simply
believe in the zombie world: they know that no student will ever
associate Problem 6 with any information about superluminal signals
unless his/her hypnotist has told him/her to do so.
Pentcho Valev
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: Relativity Hypnotists and the Zombie World |
10 Feb 2006 09:47:48 AM |
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"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139584015.114225.290840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Although the existence of superluminal signals (whose speed is much
greater than 300000km/s) has been confirmed many times, relativity
hypnotists don't hesitate to stake the survival of Einstein's theory on
the claim that no signal can move faster than 300000km/s. See, for
instance, Problem 6 ("Train in a tunnel"), p. 47 (solution on p. 53),
in
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf
Where does the arrogance come from?
The middle east.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/STM/Bilge.htm
Androcles.
Relativity hypnotists simply
believe in the zombie world: they know that no student will ever
associate Problem 6 with any information about superluminal signals
unless his/her hypnotist has told him/her to do so.
Pentcho Valev
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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| Title: Re: Relativity Hypnotists and the Zombie World |
10 Feb 2006 11:19:30 AM |
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"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1139584015.114225.290840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Although the existence of superluminal signals (whose speed is much
greater than 300000km/s) has been confirmed many times, relativity
hypnotists don't hesitate to stake the survival of Einstein's theory on
the claim that no signal can move faster than 300000km/s. See, for
instance, Problem 6 ("Train in a tunnel"), p. 47 (solution on p. 53),
in
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf
Where does the arrogance come from? Relativity hypnotists simply
believe in the zombie world: they know that no student will ever
associate Problem 6 with any information about superluminal signals
unless his/her hypnotist has told him/her to do so.
Every student is able to show which instances from the following
list of differences ignored by Pentcho Valev's are responsible for
the above misconception:
- bad science and bad engineering,
- bad engineering and bad cost management,
- honing the foundations of a theory and fighting it,
- physics and linguistics,
- an article written in 1905 and a theory created in 1915,
- understanding a book and turning its pages,
- speed and relative (aka closing) speed,
- doing algebra and randomly writing down symbols,
- real life and a Usenet hobby group,
- receiving a detailed reply and being ignored,
- the three things that smell like fish,
- inertial and non-inertial,
- speed and velocity,
- an article and a book,
- relativity and disguised ether addiction,
- algebra and analytic geometry,
- kneeling down and bending over,
- local and global,
- a sycophant in English and in French,
- a relation and an equation,
- massive and massless particles,
- a Mexican poncho and a Sears poncho,
- implication and equivalence,
- group velocity and phase velocity,
- science and religion
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "Lloyd Parker" |
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| Title: Re: Relativity Hypnotists and the Zombie World |
10 Feb 2006 05:13:37 AM |
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In article <1139584015.114225.290840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:
Although the existence of superluminal signals (whose speed is much
greater than 300000km/s) has been confirmed many times, relativity
hypnotists don't hesitate to stake the survival of Einstein's theory on
the claim that no signal can move faster than 300000km/s. See, for
instance, Problem 6 ("Train in a tunnel"), p. 47 (solution on p. 53),
in
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf
That reference says time after time relativity is proven. Don't you even read
the things you cite?
Where does the arrogance come from? Relativity hypnotists simply
believe in the zombie world: they know that no student will ever
associate Problem 6 with any information about superluminal signals
unless his/her hypnotist has told him/her to do so.
Pentcho Valev
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| User: "Tom Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: Relativity Hypnotists and the Zombie World |
10 Feb 2006 09:52:18 AM |
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
Although the existence of superluminal signals (whose speed is much
greater than 300000km/s) has been confirmed many times,
No, such signals have never been observed. What has been observed is
group velocity >> c, but in all such cases the group speed does not
carry any information, and cannot be interpreted as "signals".
You repeatedly post nonsense to the net based upon your personal
MISconceptions about very basic physics. You would be _much_ better
served by spending your time _studying_ rather than posting nonsense to
the net.
Tom Roberts tjroberts@lucent.com
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: Relativity Hypnotists and the Zombie World |
10 Feb 2006 10:42:20 AM |
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"Tom Roberts" <> wrote in message
news:SE2Hf.11560$2O6.1481@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
Although the existence of superluminal signals (whose speed is much
greater than 300000km/s) has been confirmed many times,
No, such signals have never been observed.
Don't be so stupid, *****. Ask Cassini the time.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
What has been observed is
group velocity >> c, but in all such cases the group speed does not carry
any information, and cannot be interpreted as "signals".
*****, unwrap your fuckin' turban and ask Cassini the time.
You repeatedly post nonsense to the net based upon your personal
MISconceptions about very basic physics. You would be _much_ better served
by spending your time _studying_ rather than posting nonsense to the net.
The very thing we say about you, "I'm not an astronomer" Roberts.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/STM/Scoundrels.htm#Roberts
Androcles
Tom Roberts
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| User: "Pentcho Valev" |
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| Title: Re: Relativity Hypnotists and the Zombie World |
11 Feb 2006 01:54:14 AM |
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Tom Roberts wrote:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
Although the existence of superluminal signals (whose speed is much
greater than 300000km/s) has been confirmed many times,
No, such signals have never been observed. What has been observed is
group velocity >> c, but in all such cases the group speed does not
carry any information, and cannot be interpreted as "signals".
Always changing the explanation? A good Einsteinian:
Tom Roberts wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
argon wrote:
but they know they are wrong becus group velocity can
reach infinity
Sure. So can phase velocity. So what? -- the front velocity of any EM
wave never exceeds c, and both energy and information transfer travel at
the front velocity.
Tom Roberts
Pentcho Valev
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